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I am relatively new to Android, via a Dell Streak.
I have just bought an Advent Vega, and I am trying (without any success!) to understand how app licencing works when I have 2 or more devices.
It's obviously not a problem for free apps, but what is the position for the apps that I have paid for (e.g., NDrive, VCOrganizer Pro, Bloat Freezer)? Can I run these on multiple devices, or do I need to buy a separate licence for each device? If it's the latter, how do I do this, given that they are all tied into one Google account, so whichever device I use to connect to the Android Market, Google always thinks that the app has been paid for.
Or does it depend on the application (in which case, how do I find out what the position is for each app? The web sites don't tell me).
Confused!
You can use the softwares on more than one device as long as you have the same google account on them. I have a Desire and considering this fact buying this tablet was a better deal than an Ipad.
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Any app you download in the android market, paid or not can be run on any android device linked to the same google account.
If you buy apps from alternative sources e.g. gameloft then they usually link the apps to your specific device
I want to buy an Android as cheap as I can. I live in Spain, and I found the best offers in the USA eBay web. These offers are for mobiles attached to a phone company and not free.
Since I am not using it for calling, just for develop apps and test them, can I buy them?
I just need them to load normally but offline, with apps, bluetooth and wifi working. Is that possible?
Yes, just log in with a Google mail account and you can use everything.
Android OS is universal
Android OS is universal it does not change according to country, it remains the same all over the globe.
Hello!
I own an Xperia Play and I am a resident of a country where even the google play store is not available.
But since phones arrive here pre-installed with software from whereever they are built, so I had an android market by default which recently forced me to update it to Google Play which too is working just fine. So unless I uninstall this on purpose Google Inc. can't do anything to deprive me of Google play.
But the thing is that there was no Google Play Books or Movies in the previous Android market hence I can't do anything to un-deprive me of them.
My questions are
1. Can anybody explain to me why is Google Inc. keeping these apps away from the international market when they are officially launching their phones there? I mean it doesn't make any sense to me. The stupidity is (at least that's what I believe, correct me if I am wrong) that if I fly to London, locate a WiFi hotspot, download these stores, and fly back; there is nothing in the power of Google to do anything about it, so what is it; racism? Besides without an app store a smartphone is as dull as a Nokia. Sorry Nokia.
2. Where can I find a list enlisting the countries where these app stores are available? Hurry I need to book a flight.
3. How do I talk to Google about this matter. I mean we have a website for Google play or Android Market but it displays the apps not any information about the store itself. In fact there is not even a dedicated Android website. There isn't even a place to download the official APK in case you need it, not even for those living in Google's favorite countries. Which brings me to next question.
4. How were you guys informed of the availability of these stores. I understand that the new phones had them pre-installed. But what about those like me except living in U.S. for instance. Did you guys get a notification? Or did you wake up one morning and realized that Google Books had miraculously installed? How was the experience?
5. And most importantly, can someone of you guys, possibly an Xperia Play user (just to make sure I get the right APK if they are hardware dependent) post his/her Books and Movies APK here or anywhere else and inform me of the location. There are a lot of APKs available out there but I worry that they have been altered by programmers to suit there own needs.
Please do reply in detail and as soon as possible.
Thank you for your time.
I think it's to do with media licencing.
The same reason that different games are available at different prices in different countries via steam, or not available at all in some countries.
Here in Australia I only have access to apps, games and books via Google Play. No music or movies.
Ahahaha, racism
But seriously, it has to do with licensing. If a company wants to sell things, they're not going to play favorites by not selling in certain countries.
it has nothing to do with racism.
it's completely about licensing, and I think looking at it from a business point of view would prove why.
India, having such a big population, simply means more sale/ greater sales area for google, so they wouldn't be ignoring you by any means.
honestly it would be your government that has a problem with google and is stopping google on some level.
just my opinion though, I believe it would be fairly close.
Have you tried modaco's xperia forum?
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spiritofcat said:
I think it's to do with media licencing.
The same reason that different games are available at different prices in different countries via steam, or not available at all in some countries.
Here in Australia I only have access to apps, games and books via Google Play. No music or movies.
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voryzen said:
it has nothing to do with racism.
it's completely about licensing, and I think looking at it from a business point of view would prove why.
India, having such a big population, simply means more sale/ greater sales area for google, so they wouldn't be ignoring you by any means.
honestly it would be your government that has a problem with google and is stopping google on some level.
just my opinion though, I believe it would be fairly close.
Have you tried modaco's xperia forum?
Hope this helped out
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Ah, trust the Aussies to come in here and tell it like a Sir. Good to see.
Licensing is exactly the issue. It's whether Google's services contravene your home Country's laws and regulations for media distribution.
As these services are built for the US, it's only natural they get them all. It most definitely has nothing to do with racism, believe me if Google were allowed to collect data on every human being on the planet - they would.
And as for the apk files you can usr market enabler and set it to usa to download the apps from the play store or you can google for them.These apps are not hardware dependant.
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And as for the apk files you can usr market enabler and set it to usa to download the apps from the play store or you can google for them.These apps are not hardware dependant.
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Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
I know it isn't racism, it was just a way to get people reading.
But if it is about licensing then I believe they don't take that issue seriously either.
I am from the Middle East (not India), and they do launch phones here officially, I mean it isn't that they are imported here by some third party, and yet initially these phones have Android Market or Google Play (now) available on them. It gets deleted only when your phones get an official service here from the official service centers.
So, should I be hopeless about getting Google Books or Movies here, anytime soon?
Here's what I think is the case. They (Google) probably think that they don't have many customers in this region or any region besides Europe or America or Australia. And I need to get a word to them. That's why I inquired about a contact place or some sort of Google's website. I mean it's amazing that Google rules the internet but hasn't got its own website.
If it had to be about licensing, then how come I am able to buy e-books, for instance, on websites like Kobo, Amazon etc. Same goes for music and movies.
All I have to do is Pay. Like i said before if I go to London, download the Google Books or Movies, and get back; i can easily enjoy it here. All I have to do is pay through credit card, and generally a credit card has no boundaries. I mean nobody rejects your credit card in Moscow because it was issued in Luxembourg, or do they?
And secondly, can somebody of you guys (of course living in UK or USA) upload your APK of Google Books and Google Movies somewhere on the internet and make me aware of it. I think you can locate it using Astro.
Thanks.
Watch the attitude please
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Watch the attitude please
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Ah ................ What?
What he is trying to say, is you didn't need to post it twice. We know your frustrated and are powerless to do anything about it ourselves.
Maybe you would be better off taking this up with google instead?
Hope this helps
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Jack Shepard said:
Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
I know it isn't racism, it was just a way to get people reading.
But if it is about licensing then I believe they don't take that issue seriously either.
I am from the Middle East (not India), and they do launch phones here officially, I mean it isn't that they are imported here by some third party, and yet initially these phones have Android Market or Google Play (now) available on them. It gets deleted only when your phones get an official service here from the official service centers.
So, should I be hopeless about getting Google Books or Movies here, anytime soon?
Here's what I think is the case. They (Google) probably think that they don't have many customers in this region or any region besides Europe or America or Australia. And I need to get a word to them. That's why I inquired about a contact place or some sort of Google's website. I mean it's amazing that Google rules the internet but hasn't got its own website.
If it had to be about licensing, then how come I am able to buy e-books, for instance, on websites like Kobo, Amazon etc. Same goes for music and movies.
All I have to do is Pay. Like i said before if I go to London, download the Google Books or Movies, and get back; i can easily enjoy it here. All I have to do is pay through credit card, and generally a credit card has no boundaries. I mean nobody rejects your credit card in Moscow because it was issued in Luxembourg, or do they?
And secondly, can somebody of you guys (of course living in UK or USA) upload your APK of Google Books and Google Movies somewhere on the internet and make me aware of it. I think you can locate it using Astro.
Thanks.
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Google books and Google movies are built into the Google play store. If your government refuses to do what Google requires to allow them to use it then there is nothing g you can do. There are a few countries that like to control what is seen by its citizens. Take China for instance, they have complete control and Google market is not installed by default. If the play store is removed when you get am official update then that tells you it is a government thing and you need to talk to them about it.
Hungary: No music, or movies, not even books. Only Apps. Great!
Executioner1337 said:
Hungary: No music, or movies, not even books. Only Apps. Great!
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Same here in Serbia
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According to Google play stores free apps are available to users in any country with just books movies and paid apps being restricted due to licensing agreements and in certain countries also due to the government.
You can of course work around some restrictions, if you look in the apps section here at xda there are modified or patched free apps to help you do so such as most recently a modified market app.
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Same in Romania - only apps in Play (at the beginning only free apps were allowed but now we can buy without restriction).
But isn't racism, as others already pointed out. Is about copyright, licensing agreements or government censorship.
And this isn't restricted to Google Play. As an example - i couldn't buy RAGE from Steam (because wasn't available in Romania) but i bought a retail version at the store and i was able to use the key even on Steam. So, in other words, is about who and what can sell in a certain region. So, you can buy a book from London and read it in Middle East, as you say, because you own it. But you can't buy it in your country because of some stupid law in your country or because some producer/seller/editor have no interest in your country (again, not because of racism, but because they consider that the income won't justify the investment - in Romania we still can't buy games from PSN or play on PSN, even if Sony sell Playstation in Romania since Adam banged Eve).
Ok, I am looking at an online Android/iPhone app builder. They either offer the option to build one for free with unlimited downloads or you can pay yearly with different tiers for different download limits. The difference being that the free one has ads.
Anyways, when asked about just creating the app with their site, then hosting it on your own server and having everyone download it from there instead of paying the yearly fees, the site owner made this statement.
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
For the record, I'm just looking to develop an app to play my Shoutcast Streaming audio station. I make no profit on the station, so have no capital to spend over $1K a year to have an Android and iPhone app. I mainly want to give it to my friends, and make it available to anyone who visits my Website. I really like the design that I did with this site, and am willing to pay something for it, just not worth $1K./year....
Anybody?
Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Have you tried installing the official Android Software Development Kit on your computer, and making the app yourself? You don't need to use an online service, and you choose exactly what gets compiled into the apk (ads, Google analytics, etc.).
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Thank you for the reply.
I actually do have the SDK installed, and am looking into what it takes to make my own app. But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
You do need to know those two languages.
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But, don't I have to know xml and Java to create apps using the SDK?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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That online service allows you to write apps without knowing xml or Java?
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Yes, it's kind of like Appinventor, all visual, just assemble the parts and stuff.
It's nice, just kinda pricey. I once posted the job on freelancer.com and got offers for about as much as this company is asking, and with freelancer I would have owned the app afterwards.
But, again, it's kinda hard to foot the bill when it's a non profit app.
Ok, I'm off to learn XML and Java.......
Oh, almost forgot.... the original questions...
" my personal opinion in the long run you will pay more in this case because every time when apple releaes new iOS (like 6 now) or android has new phone (like samsung galaxy S 3 now) you will have to purchase new binary code from us that supports the latest updates/fixes."
Is this true? I don't see how each new device that comes out will require an update in your app.
Also, as stated, if you pay the yearly fee for the lowest amount of downloads, I assume they can only track downloads from Google Play or the Apple app store. I don't see any way they can track downloads from my own server hosting the .apk file. Anyone have any insight on this to correct me if I'm wrong?
any ideas anyone?
I think he means every time Google releases an update to Android (updated OS, not new device). So, for example, you build your app to run on Jelly Bean. But when Key Lime Pie comes out, your app may not work as expected on those devices running KLP. Then, you'd have to pay them to recompile your app with updated binaries, or risk losing market share.
If your app is really simple and would run fine on Android 2.2 and up, then that "purchase new binary" thing is not applicable.
But, hell, if you're willing to learn XML & Java... go for it!
Hello,
I have two phones , one Cat S60 and today, reciewed my new Cat S61.
I have installed same apps that i have on my S60, but, the problem is, many modded app or other unnoficial app have problems with the new android system. On my S60, it working very well.
For exemple, i have and old version of Pocket Informant (i supposed is a "cracked" version but not sure) and a Modded version of Hogwarts Mystery. Both crash instantly when louching the app. Have black screen for few seconds and return to android desktop and have a texte say the app have crashed. If retry, same crash and android said (in french: "Harry Potter s'arrête systémathiquement") i think trad is "Always Crashing". I have no problems on the S60 is running on Android Mashmallow (if i'm correct). Other user have similar problems with custom app like me on his Android Oreo 8.1 or it's specific to the News Cat S61 and will be resolved by future update?
Thanks in advance for your answer and sorry for my bad spelling ^^'
Sounds like the applications are incompatible with the new android. Keep sending the reports to the developers and hopefully some day they release new versions for new Android. If you are rocking some "cracked" soft, then it might just be an old- non-updated version of the app. Search for these apps on google play and purchase them, if you enjoy them. That gives the developers some well deserved money and motivation to fix the issues.
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Sounds like the applications are incompatible with the new android. Keep sending the reports to the developers and hopefully some day they release new versions for new Android. If you are rocking some "cracked" soft, then it might just be an old- non-updated version of the app. Search for these apps on google play and purchase them, if you enjoy them. That gives the developers some well deserved money and motivation to fix the issues.
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That i have maked for Pocket Informant. The reason i have a cracked version is i dont like the new interface of the calendar (and as need to pay for have all function, for gaving an old version of the app, needed to be a "cracked" because if isnt, even if you have paid the new version, the old (uncrackef) stay limited function. For harry potter (hogwards mystery) it just i whont paid anything ingame for advance in game or other. If the dev put this game on store and need to paid for have it and play "unlimited, i will pay for it, but... If you read how the game is working, it's just a scam for get maximum monney of people X). The mod make just infinite energy ingame and dont need to paid for advance in the game ^^.
So, it's not a Android "limitation" to make unable to have non official or modded apk . I will wait that get new version of my apps and see what happens.