So Ive been playing with the nexus 10 since last friday. The device is nice, I like it. First, My device has light bleed. And my 1st replacement is worse than the original. I will see if my 2nd replacement is any better. In the meantime, I consider requesting a refund. I never thought of returning this before. However, the more I use it, I realized pure android is not what I expected. I have a note 10.1 so I compare this with the nexus.
First, I always thought touchwiz sucked. well, indeed it sucks (lags), but it has some cool features that pure android don't. FOr ex, the quick settings in touchwiz is more convenient with more options. like on touchwiz, when you touch "wifi", it will turn off and on immediately. On nexus 10, it will take you to the wifi settings. also I hate the space waste of the status bar.okay well, this is just a minor thing.
2nd, video player. The note plays just everything I throw at it. And the nexus don't. and you have to do a lot of modification to get it work. BS player can play them fine, but it is not fully supported yet so it crashes. and video quality on BSplayer is worse than other players like MX (but MX doesn't have sound playing mkv :/)
3rd, Apps. I know it's just too soon to complain but apps are not supported on the nexus 10 yet. Icons are blurry. apps lag on the nexus 10 because of too many pixels. I hope this will be fixed soon but considering there are many tablets out there that does not have 300 pixels per inch like the nexus. Not sure if ALL developers will adjust their apps to get it supported on the nexus any soon. I've got frustrated with the nexus so I found myself on my Note more.
4th, battery. well batter is not bad, but not good either. It's acceptable and I wish it could be better. ALso, slow charge (this might be fixed in near future thanks to the pogo but no one knows if it's gonna be released or not). average battery + slow charge. seems like a perfect combination...
I will make final decision on friday depending on the condition of my 2nd replacement. if it has worse light bleed then Im done with this. Too tired to send it back. I still want to keep it cause it's a nice thing to have. (oh and Im not interested in the ipad, that's why I didn't compare this with the ipad). SO yeah... anyone feels free to have opinion. I kinda need someone to convince me to keep it.
And i totally understand you.
Despite of that, i'm not gonna ask for refund, since this is the only android tablet quite usable, fluid etc.
Battery is quite disappointing, can't get more than 5.5 hours onscreen, can't understand how users get 8.X hours of this, wifi off? minimum brightness? Pointless.
Screen is, well, i though this screen would be on pair with cellphones, but it isn't, brightness, contrast, are not as good as were supposed. And light bleed, the thing many people say is in every single lcd display. Well, if a defective product is usual for you... despite 40% of the LCDs have it, ok, but it doesn't mean its usual.
The only thing that 'wowed' me was the sound, pretty amazing.
Btw i also love touchwiz in my galaxy S3, 0 lags there.
same here in all points, mine is going back too
In addition: the build quality is good on first impression but really really sucks in real!
I'm loosing Wifi all the time
The UI in the middle is just ridiculous
it's freezing and restarting
mkv's are lagging
in summary it's just disappointing after one week
Only thing that I'm not too "happy" about is the performance of some games on the Nexus 10. I was expecting GTA III to be easily playable on highest settings, but it runs at pretty low FPS, with the "Screen Resolution" setting being the biggest hit it seems, being tied to the extreme resolution of the Nexus 10. I was also very surprised with the performance of "Beats" (music game with DDR and osu! gamemodes). Something that looks "that" simple gives about 30-40 FPS somehow...
Aside from those 2 games though, everything else seems to run fine, performance wise. Kinda just want to get a controller and keyboard/stand for the N10, and I think it'll be perfect
I'll be keeping my Nexus 10 though Mainly because I want to try to get into Android Development, and so far the N10 seems to have the best specs of any Android tablet (currently).
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And i totally understand you.
Despite of that, i'm not gonna ask for refund, since this is the only android tablet quite usable, fluid etc.
Battery is quite disappointing, can't get more than 5.5 hours onscreen, can't understand how users get 8.X hours of this, wifi off? minimum brightness? Pointless.
Screen is, well, i though this screen would be on pair with cellphones, but it isn't, brightness, contrast, are not as good as were supposed. And light bleed, the thing many people say is in every single lcd display. Well, if a defective product is usual for you... despite 40% of the LCDs have it, ok, but it doesn't mean its usual.
The only thing that 'wowed' me was the sound, pretty amazing.
Btw i also love touchwiz in my galaxy S3, 0 lags there.
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yeah the nexus 10 is the best android tablet you should buy at the moment, hands down. But my note doesn't have light bleed at all. and touchwiz only lags on the Note tablet. I have the S3 too and it doesn't lag.
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So Ive been playing with the nexus 10 since last friday. The device is nice, I like it. First, My device has light bleed. And my 1st replacement is worse than the original. I will see if my 2nd replacement is any better. In the meantime, I consider requesting a refund. I never thought of returning this before. However, the more I use it, I realized pure android is not what I expected. I have a note 10.1 so I compare this with the nexus.
First, I always thought touchwiz sucked. well, indeed it sucks (lags), but it has some cool features that pure android don't. the quick settings in touchwiz is more convenient with more options. also I hate the space waste of the status bar.okay well, this is just a minor thing.
2nd, video player. The note plays just everything I throw at it. And the nexus don't. and you have to do a lot of modification to get it work. BS player can play them fine, but it is not fully supported yet so it crashes.And those bluray rip mkv on the nexus 10 doesn't look as good as the note 10.1. (Im not talking about real HD movies you buy from google play but those mkv that you downloaded). those blu ray mkv's resolution is not high enough for a screen like the nexus. On the note, it looks smoother.
3rd, Apps. I know it's just too soon to complain but apps are not supported on the nexus 10 yet. Icons are blurry. apps lag on the nexus 10 because of too many pixels. I hope this will be fixed soon but considering there are many tablets out there that does not have 300 pixels per inch like the nexus. Not sure if ALL developers will adjust their apps to get it supported on the nexus.
4th, battery. well batter is not bad, but not good either. It's acceptable and I wish it could be better. ALso, slow charge (this might be fixed in near future thanks to the pogo but no one knows if it's gonna be released or not).
I will make the final decision on friday depending on the condition of my 2nd replacement. if it has worse light bleed then Im done with this. Too tired to send it back. I still want to keep it cause it's a nice thing to have. (oh and Im not interested in the ipad, that's why I didn't compare this with the ipad). SO yeah... anyone feels free to have opinion. I kinda need someone to convince me to keep it.
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Cheer up the Nexus is awesome. Mine has no bleed or any issues. Your first Nexus left a bad taste in your mouth. Get past it and you'll be good.
2. QQ Player for videos.
3. Apps will come with time.
4. Charge isn't great but any micro USB can charge it and that's a big plus.
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Keeping mine as long as it lives.. totally love it.. havn't noticed any light bleed at all.. but then again im not looking for it tried playing asphalt 7 and nfs.. and both played fine.. but those types of games blow goats on a tablet.. so 100% happy
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I gotta say I'm pretty happy with this nexus tablet. I've never had a tablet before and besides spending limited time on my wife's iPad I never had a notion to get a tablet. I don't hamve the light bleed and my tablet shipped and arrived exactly when it was supposed to. So not negative to say other than the battery. I'm with the other guy. 5.5 hours is about all I can get. I can't wait for a case for this thing.
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yeah the nexus 10 is the best android tablet you should buy at the moment, hands down. But my note doesn't have light bleed at all. and touchwiz only lags on the Note tablet. I have the S3 too and it doesn't lag.
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Thats what i meant with the lightbleed issue, not every single tablet leaks, here there are some users that, since they have so MUCH hope for this tablet, say that lightbleed is usual in every single tablet, and thats not truth.
And i repeat, i'm gonna keep this, but Google haven't done a good job with this. Problems, meh screen, poor performance (specially with chrome), no accesories, their shop was and is a mess.... And i say this after thinking that nexus 10 should be the device that makes android tablets take off. If i compare nexus 10 with other android tablets, it obviously is great, but not such a flagship (or ipad killer, as many people likes to say) as was spected.
Also coming from a Note 10.1. Overall, I like the Note 10.1 better. What the Note 10.1 lacks in resolution makes up with more vibrant display, better blacks, no backlight bleed, clearer sound, etc. Nexus 10 battery is not a concern since I was planning to use it as a desktop/laptop alternative but now I find out that HDMI output is laggy. Having reservations and thinking maybe I should hold off for Samsung's new tablet or updated Note 10.1 or just getting the Note II. They mistakenly shipped me a 16GB instead of 32GB so if the replacement unit that's coming Friday still has issues I'm probably going to ask for a refund.
I came from the Note 10.1 , personally, can't stand TW, and as far as the pulldowns go, you will see the same thing once the note 10.1 is updated to 4.2 which it does not have, "officially".
Personal opinion is the display is far superior on the Nexus 10, also standard micro usb compared to sammy connector.
I think the sound is better on the Nexus, but not by much.
I am one of the lucky ones, mine has no light bleed, although my note 10.1 had some, not bad but it was there.
So all and all I am happy with the Nexus 10, but it is a personal choice, IF I was currently going to have another tablet it would be the Note 10.1 or the new transformer.
just my .02
I would go Ativ tab 10.1 or surface pro before even considering a note 10.1 or infinity.
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I would go Ativ tab 10.1 or surface pro before even considering a note 10.1 or infinity.
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Ativ Tab 10.1 is nice hardware but terrible UI with Windows 8 and weak app selection. Surface Pro is too pricey just for touch input. I can always upgrade to Windows 8 for $15 on my laptop but haven't bothered with the hassle since it doesn't really offer much.
Interesting thread...definitely makes me appreciate my N7 even more.
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I came from the Note 10.1 , personally, can't stand TW, and as far as the pulldowns go, you will see the same thing once the note 10.1 is updated to 4.2 which it does not have, "officially".
Personal opinion is the display is far superior on the Nexus 10, also standard micro usb compared to sammy connector.
I think the sound is better on the Nexus, but not by much.
I am one of the lucky ones, mine has no light bleed, although my note 10.1 had some, not bad but it was there.
So all and all I am happy with the Nexus 10, but it is a personal choice, IF I was currently going to have another tablet it would be the Note 10.1 or the new transformer.
just my .02
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IF I wasn't impressed with the N10, I would absolutely steer clear of Asus' Transformer line of tablets IMO. I bought the Prime (TF201) when it first came out & the Infinity Pad (TF700) after returning the latter. They both had the typical I/O sloppiness and general lag that proves the "it has 4 cores" argument is a poor one lol.
Bottom line - I've spent most of the day with the N10 and have been thoroughly impressed. If any issues do arise...its a Nexus so unlocking the boot loader to improve performance won't void my warranty...
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I'm not totally enthralled by either. First one had dust laminated in the display and some backlight bleed. My new one has bleed in both the bottom corners, but it is slightly worse. Even at 0% brightness in a completely dark room I can still make it out, I mean it doesn't stand out, but I can still see the faintest outline. Idk if I will send it back. I really don't want to get one that has worse bleed. I may just put up with this minor inconvenience until next year when the n10 2 comes out.
A lot of the issues mentioned will be fixed with software or firmware updates. Remember this is the early adopter problem.
Also dev roms will crush bugs or improve battery, add features, etc.
I love my N10.
Have no light bleed, or maybe I do but did not notice anything.
Its extremely smooth.
Yes there is some wasted screen sapcd with the new UI but all will be fixed with custom roms.
And mist of the apps I was using on my iPad are available on market and look good for me.
All in all, within a couple of weeks this thing will be a monster.
I love this tablet. Zero backlight bleeding I can see during normal use, no dead or stuck pixels, amazing build quality, BEAUTIFUL display (I noticed how much better it was than my iPad 3s the instant money turned it on) . and great battery life. Certainly the battery doesn't last as long as the iPads (it has a smaller battery) but I got 9hours of screen on time today and 14 hours total surfing, playing the odd game or two, checking emails etc. The odd freezing issue will be fixed through an update I'm confident. Most of these issues are resulting from the fact that we are early adopters to a brand new device.
Return it if you're not happy with it. What's the point in announcing it to the rest of the community?
Makes no sense. Hope you're happy with whatever you get to replace it.
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I'm on the hunt for a nexus 10 at a local staples - the majority of posts I see in here are people *****ing about performance issues and light bleed or other build quality problems. Meanwhile I do see posts about people absolutely in love with the N10 (rightfully so)
The light bleed thread seems like a nightmare - although people who RMA a device 6 times should really get a life and move on to a different product. Is the light bleed really a major issue or should I go ahead and buy one?
Sorry for the junk thread but I didn't see very many threads in here where people are actually giving credit to the N10 and singing praises. hard to guage the "fringe" vs "the average person's experience"
Alrighty...my Nexus 10 is fantastic. Staples followed through on their promised two-day delivery, I have no light bleed, and the thing hasn't crashed or rebooted once. I immediately installed Paranoid Android on the thing, didn't even once boot the stock JB it came with. Couldn't be happier.
I love mine, i have not had any issues. My battery life is really great, works awesome and i am on stock, with multiple users running.
I love my Nexus. I had a Xoom WIFI (that is now the girlfriend's) that I loved and my Nexus blows it out of the water. I have Task650 and KToonsez's AOKP on there with KToonsez's KT Manta kernel and it's a beast. Combined with ES File Explorer, Netflix and Hulu the tablet is the ultimate portable media device as well as great for browsing and e-reading.
Love it. I have a little light bleed and it doesn't bother me at all. I don't get why it matters I guess.
I love mine. It is flawless. 16GB from Google directly
I really like mine (32gb, stock rom). The screen is amazing, especially with pages that have good text renderers. The tablet also has state-of-the-art performance in day-to-day use. No light bleed at all in mine. Native resolution apps are scarce on the ground, which is a bit of an issue but one that should be resolved shortly (I hope) as Android tablets seem primed to explode in popularity.
One annoying problem I've run into is Chrome's instability. Chrome has crashed at least once per day since I got it. When I say "crash", I mean full system lock-up, requiring a hard reboot. I've resorted to using Dolphin and Firefox with no problems. Google needs to fix tablet Chrome, though.
I'm not too impressed with the (inevitable) thermal throttling that basically makes the advertised 1.7GHz dual-core speed, a lie :/ But, to be fair, most of what I do on the N10 works fine and performs just fine
But still... essentially not being able to run a demanding game for too long isn't impressive...
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One annoying problem I've run into is Chrome's instability. Chrome has crashed at least once per day since I got it. When I say "crash", I mean full system lock-up, requiring a hard reboot. I've resorted to using Dolphin and Firefox with no problems. Google needs to fix tablet Chrome, though.
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I've used Chrome for a while now on my tablet, with 0 crashes or system lockups, but have heard many stories of people mentioning Chrome crashing and etc. Not really too sure what I might be doing different though...
Best tablet I've ever used. Screen quality is astounding, everything about it as as smooth as butter, web browsing with Ocean works like a dream, gaming on it is great, no lightbleed, and it's been stable as a rock. I literally couldn't be any happier with this tablet.
I have to admit I"m only on day 2 of ownership so that may skew some things, but I absolutely adore mine. Its fast, the screen is amazing, and the build quality is quite good. Its easily the best tablet I've ever owned in every single category except battery life, and even there its not bad at all.
Do I have light bleed? Yes. However, I've gone through absolute hell with warranty repairs trying to get my previous HP Touchpad's light bleed fixed which eventually resulted in them cracking the screen and my successfully suing them in small claims court (For the crack which they claimed was my fault and warranty voiding, not the light bleed). Following that, I went through four Transformer Infinities, of which three had light bleed. Its just a defect common in IPS/PLS displays, through the three tablets I've owned (all of different manufactures) I've learned its completely unrealistic to expect a perfect one. If its not an absolutely horrible amount, live with it. If you cant, get an iPad or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
Do I have the creaking back plastic? Yes. Every tablet made of plastic is going to have some problems. The speakers on the touchpad are notorious for cracking spontaneously. The Note 10.1 is so thin you can actually see it flex. With devices this big made of plastic, its unrealistic to not expect some sort of cheap feel. The Nexus 10 has it pretty good compared to some of the other tablets, so live with it if you can. If you cant, get a metal tablet or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
Do I have the thermal throttling? I dont know yet. But realize you're running a 1.7Ghz processor in something slightly thicker than a ball point pen. Look in ANY desktop or laptop computer of equivalent speed (yes, I know x86 and ARM are not directly comparable, but go with it for this) and you'll find a massive heatsink and fan. The Nexus 10 does not have a fan because nobody would buy a tablet with such, and the heatsink is quite thin to keep the dimensions down. You still have one of the fastest tablets on the market. Think of the 1.7Ghz not as a top sustainable speed, but like the "Turboboost" mode on modern Intel i3/5/7 CPUs where it'll ramp up to that speed to complete a task as quickly as possible and then dial back to something more easily sustainable. I'll admit that Google should add something to Android where if it knows a game is running it limits its top speed to prevent this very throttling, but that's on Android and not the device itself. Throttle the CPU back yourself, live with it, or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
TL;DR: This is a good tablet computer. Like all tablet computers, or like anything really, you shouldn't have unrealistic expectations.
Its very good. I think Google still has a ways to go though in the tablet world but its getting much better. Still the best android 10 inch out there.
I absolutely love mine. It is lightning fast, runs more games than my Infinity, the screen is incredible and the tablet has given me zero trouble. The battery life/slow charging is only a small ding for me.
Having had mine since release, I still love it. Easily better than my iPad 3 was, and massively better than any other android tablet. So powerful. The screen is so sick. The front speakers.
I agree with those saying chrome is a pos, the aosp browser is so much better! Weird as chrome works well on my n4. There is a tiny bit of "light bleed" in the bottom right cover, but as others have said this is a fundamental characteristic of backlit screens. My TV has much worse light bleed than my tablet!
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, this is my first and only tablet.
I love the feel and form factor of the 10. It's lightweight and easy to use with one hand or two, but it still feels sturdy to me. I love that I can pack it around the house with me, or lay down in bed and prop it up in my arms and comfortably watch some YouTube or TV shows on Hulu. The overall mobility is great, and I especially look forward to traveling with it.
I'm happy with the media content. I've been with Android since day 1, so I didn't want to leave behind all the apps and content I've purchased up to now. From what I can tell I won't be missing out on any of my core apps, magazines, movies, etc... I will concede that right now many developers seem to just be blowing up their apps to fit the 10, instead of optimizing the app to fit. I'm hopeful this will improve in 2013.
Performance wise it's been a mixed bag for me. I'm running stock and unrooted with Nova Launcher. 95% of the time navigation and usage is buttery smooth, but it's not completely perfect. I have had issues with Chrome freezing up and causing the tablet to restart, so I'm using dolphin. I've had just a few other times when it's rebooted randomly. Gaming on the 10 is overall a superb experience, however I do have issues with lag and stutter in NFS Most Wanted and on rare occasions in Sword & Sorcery. I am sort of bugged that the gaming experience is superior on an Ipad, but I couldn't bring myself to buy one just for that. All of these things are annoyances at worst - not deal breakers for me. It's embarrassing though to have the system I love have issues like these right out of the box. Again, this is my first tablet so I'm unaware of what the experience is like on other tablets and OS'es and if this is a common thing or not. The positives are that I can use this thing for 3 days and have 6 hours of screen time without having to charge it. I like that.
The screen is fantastic! Prior to receiving my tablet I'd been lurking in the "Damnit, my Nexus has light bleed" thread and had myself half scared to death that that light bleed would ruin my experience with the 10. I do have pretty severe yellow bleed in my corners, but surprisingly it doesn't really ever become noticeable in my day to day use. It bugs me that it's still there and I have requested a replacement on the basis that I expect a near mint copy if I'm paying $400 for it, but I think you can get by most of the time without ever noticing that it's an issue. YMMV. If my next one is bad I might even keep mine because I don't think I have any other issues with it.
My overall experience is very positive. I do wish that the screen bleed issues weren't there and that Samsung actually would have taken the time to calibrate the color and gamma on the panel as well. I'm a perfectionist in my work, so it dumbfounds me to thing that 2 companies like Samsung and Google could release a flawed product, but this seems to be the best choice available to me so I've taken it. My nexus is basically a $400 bedside toy right now, but I love it! Eventually I will transition to getting a bluetooth keyboard and purchase one of the office suite products and use it for true productivity purposes.
I like the device but I hate the state that it's in right now. I can't believe they released this to the public with the not only the software issues that are well known, but the usb charging to top it off.
This thing should still be in final beta stages, not out in the public for nearly 2 months already.
Well my nexus legacy will continue - just ordered the 16gb on google play (what are the chances it becomes in stock as I make this thread heh)....
It will be a battle between this and the acer w510 tablet I picked up (x86 windows 8 tablet). Definitely need to get a bluetooth keyboard case ordered though.
I really liked it when it worked. I did have the hard freezes which required reboots. they were always caused by Chrome. When I unistalled Chrome and put in the AOSP Browser it was much better. The one thing I couldn't get over was the light bleed on all 6. For the money I spent on it, I couldn't justify just having to deal with it.
Very happy with mine and even with the couple things that irk me, I am glad I got it! Great title for this thread, because I wondered the same thing.
LOVE IT! Nuff said!
I love mine and have had no reboots or freezes, but I do get some lag during hard gaming. Fingers crossed that can be fixed with updates or a new trinity/other kernel.
For some time I been thinking about getting a Nexus7, but thought if I got the 10 I would have a bigger screen as well as more features, but I also want to be able to pocket it and take it with me everywhere more easily, so will choosing the 10 for better specs or going 7 for portability be better?
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For comparison about this, you can check out YouTube channel named "oode". He has been doing some comparisons about Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 10 in term of gaming, browsing experience, hardware, software and anything. It's really worth checking out though. His videos are HD quality. The owner of that channel is also polite to viewers, you can ask him anything and he will be more than pleased to answer your questions quickly.
I think Google Nexus 7 is a great choice if you intend to use this tablet on the go. But Google Nexus 10 is also tempting if you will use this device mostly in your house. All Android apps, whether it's well optimized or not, will run perfectly on Google Nexus 10.
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For some time I been thinking about getting a Nexus7, but thought if I got the 10 I would have a bigger screen as well as more features, but I also want to be able to pocket it and take it with me everywhere more easily, so will choosing the 10 for better specs or going 7 for portability be better?
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If I didn't have my galaxy s3 I probably would have gone with the Nexus 7, but I LOVE my nexus 10. It's beautiful. Does everything I expected and more more more. It feels well made and I am very happy with it. The size is the same as an iPad and its easy to put in a bag, carry with you on a plane, etc. You may not think 3 inches is a big difference but its a huge amount of real estate from 7 to 10 inches.... so it wont go in your pocket... but will a 7" tab really go in you pocket?
The portability of the Nexus 7 is nice, but I don't really have too much of an issue carrying around my Nexus 10 either (laptop bags are nice).
Main thing that makes me like the 10 over the 7 is the rear-facing camera; never realized how nice it was to have one until I got the Nexus 7 (my previous tablet before that was a Galaxy Tab 7)
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hmm I heard the feel of the 7 has a soft rubber that makes it easy to grip while the 10 has a hard smooth plastic?
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hmm I heard the feel of the 7 has a soft rubber that makes it easy to grip while the 10 has a hard smooth plastic?
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i've never had hands on experiences with nex 10 but have a nex 7 and can confirm that its easy to grip and super portable ! like others mentioned if you can sacrifice a bit on the portability side of things then go for nexus 10 hands down !
Is price an issue? For 250 A 32 GB 7 is hard to beat. My boy has the 7, I'm on the 10.
We both had HP touchpads prior. I knew I wanted the 10. For work and play I need the real estate.
He was weary of playing games on a smaller screen. A week later he is still telling me every day...I love my tablet.
Either is a winner... Cost and size should be your deciding factor...
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I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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That is also another thing that I heard, that the ten has bugs and isn't as compatible as the 7, well I would like the nice size for playing my HD games and doing some questionable browsing, the 7 seems more stable in its updates. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the 7 almost always in stock while the 10 is not?
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That is also another thing that I heard, that the ten has bugs and isn't as compatible as the 7, well I would like the nice size for playing my HD games and doing some questionable browsing, the 7 seems more stable in its updates. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the 7 almost always in stock while the 10 is not?
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Keep in mind that the Nexus 10 is still brand new, so I expect many of the bugs will be addressed in future updates or by our dev's themselves. As far as the N10 not being in stock, again, its brand new and released right before the holiday season so the demand was higher than the supply. However, I was able to walk right in my local Walmart the day after Christmas and pick up a N10 32gb. So, you can find them if you look around a bit.
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but will a 7" tab really go in you pocket?
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Yes it will, I fit mine into my coat and pants pockets all the time, it works great.
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I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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Try the Note 10.1 I have them both. I agree the screen is not as great as I thought it would be with the extra pixels for the N10. The processor is still good, the apps and functionality can be eventually worked out, might be software related. The resolution is and size is new. iPad has had its issues too with connectivity--wifi, Bluetooth, overheating & screen bleeds. Note 10 however works great, I mainly use it for productivity. It is a computer and have trouble seeing it as an entertainment device that's why I got the N10 to separate work from play. No complaints about the Note 10 at all, I got more than my money's worth. No screen bleed, overheating, connectivity problems or lag. I only wish Samsung would put out firmware that will allow end users to hook a 1TB or more hard drive to it to catch the work flow. N10 can only get better with each software update.
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Yes it will, I fit mine into my coat and pants pockets all the time, it works great.
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"Is that a Nexus 7 in your pocket or you just happy to see me?"
I've got the Nexus 10 and also got Nexus 7's for my kids. I've used the 10 extensively and spent quite a bit of time with the 7 as well. Love them both. I use the 10 for work as well as play, and the size is important to me in order to use it for work purposes. The 7 is fantastically convenient for media consumption, web browsing, games and social media, but would be cramped for content creation or sharing a PowerPoint deck with a client. They are both superb tablets. The 10 fits my particular needs, but the 7 is incredibly portable. In the end, choosing its personal, based on your particular needs and usage patterns.
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I've got the Nexus 10 and also got Nexus 7's for my kids. I've used the 10 extensively and spent quite a bit of time with the 7 as well. Love them both. I use the 10 for work as well as play, and the size is important to me in order to use it for work purposes. The 7 is fantastically convenient for media consumption, web browsing, games and social media, but would be cramped for content creation or sharing a PowerPoint deck with a client. They are both superb tablets. The 10 fits my particular needs, but the 7 is incredibly portable. In the end, choosing its personal, based on your particular needs and usage patterns.
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Hmm, I might go with the 7 as I consume media like crazy and play random games, not going to be doing much powerpoint
If u gotta big screen phone go for 10 if not get 7. I love my N10 cuz on the go I have my note 2.
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If u gotta big screen phone go for 10 if not get 7. I love my N10 cuz on the go I have my note 2.
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I only have a wildfire s marvelc, which if you knew anything about is very lacking in internal memory and any form to boost that fails.
So I think we have a winner
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I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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I retract my statement, I got the N10 anyway and I got a good one, it looks much better than the display, it looks as good as my N7.
To get away from the freezes on Chrome, I am using CM browser with ipad user agent, full screen and flash.
So far so good.
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I retract my statement, I got the N10 anyway and I got a good one, it looks much better than the display, it looks as good as my N7.
To get away from the freezes on Chrome, I am using CM browser with ipad user agent, full screen and flash.
So far so good.
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That's good to hear, how much HD apps are their? Are they any good or are they just "BUY ME BECAUSE I HAVE HD AND MY REAL CONTENT SUCKS!" ?
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That's good to hear, how much HD apps are their? Are they any good or are they just "BUY ME BECAUSE I HAVE HD AND MY REAL CONTENT SUCKS!" ?
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Not that many, for example facebook looks bad, but it is not a big deal because with this screen I am using the full web version.
Apps like the verge, business insider, redbox look bad but again this is OK because the webversion works exellent.
I keep seeing these great deals on the Nexus 10. Although it's an old tablet it is well received and still seems to be among the best available. After deciding to wait for the new version, it keeps getting pushed back and who knows when it will actually be available? I think I may just go with the original N10 as my Asus TF300 is absolutely driving me nuts. It's nearly unusable at times... if it's doing any kind of app update or sync, forget it, it's unusable. I am rooted and on a custom ROM and still have issues. I was fed up and need a replacement now. Should I stick with the N10 or maybe look into some other tablets... Budget is around $300...
Yeah its still a good tablet if you can get it for a decent price. I love mine, although it does have its flaws for sure. But if my tablet suddenly turned into a stack of $300 bills I am not sure I would buy it again. I would probably look at maybe a Sony Tablet Z.
The reason i say this is that the N10 is not a perfect device. For a start the battery is not the best. On 4.3 I would eek out 8 hours with very conservative use and low brightness. On 4.4 that has dropped to 6-7 hours on a very good day. The battery issue is mainly due to the chipsets used, which is a dual core A15 and Mali T604 graphics. Both of these are pretty power hungry compared to newer chipsets. Newer CPU's have lower powered cores which handle mundane tasks and conserve power. Also, the graphics use up 1GB of the system memory, so really you only get 1GB for system RAM and not 2GB like most tablets. Kitkat 4.4. had to be gimped on the N10 mainly due to the N10 not have enough grunt to run certain aspects of 4.4 like the translucent bars and ART without stutter. Another thing is its not a tablet to be held in portrait mode due to the design. It should be held in landscape mode at all times. It just feels way better held like that.
Don't get me wrong I love my N10, especially the design. Its definitely the best tablet in terms of ergonomics I have used. The screen is still fantastic and the speakers being on the front are really great and go to a decent level. Performance is also really good being vanilla android and all with no bloatware.
So I do love my N10 but its not perfect, but I can live with its faults. But if I was to buy another tablet tomorrow I would definitely look around at the competition.
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Yeah its still a good tablet if you can get it for a decent price. I love mine, although it does have its flaws for sure. But if my tablet suddenly turned into a stack of $300 bills I am not sure I would buy it again. I would probably look at maybe a Sony Tablet Z.
The reason i say this is that the N10 is not a perfect device. For a start the battery is not the best. On 4.3 I would eek out 8 hours with very conservative use and low brightness. On 4.4 that has dropped to 6-7 hours on a very good day. The battery issue is mainly due to the chipsets used, which is a dual core A15 and Mali T604 graphics. Both of these are pretty power hungry compared to newer chipsets. Newer CPU's have lower powered cores which handle mundane tasks and conserve power. Also, the graphics use up 1GB of the system memory, so really you only get 1GB for system RAM and not 2GB like most tablets. Kitkat 4.4. had to be gimped on the N10 mainly due to the N10 not have enough grunt to run certain aspects of 4.4 like the translucent bars and ART without stutter. Another thing is its not a tablet to be held in portrait mode due to the design. It should be held in landscape mode at all times. It just feels way better held like that.
Don't get me wrong I love my N10, especially the design. Its definitely the best tablet in terms of ergonomics I have used. The screen is still fantastic and the speakers being on the front are really great and go to a decent level. Performance is also really good being vanilla android and all with no bloatware.
So I do love my N10 but its not perfect, but I can live with its faults. But if I was to buy another tablet tomorrow I would definitely look around at the competition.
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Almost Everything Warren_Orange has said is true to certain degree. The screen is still fantastic compared to newer tablets even though it may not be #1 anymore in terms of quality. Yes, ram on the nexus 10 is a little scarce due to the high screen resolution but its not a deal breaker by any means. KitKat has vastly improved ram management on this device and it is a night and day difference. Battery life could certainly be better and don't even get me started on the insanely long charging times lol.
A few things I would kindly disagree with is that "the processor in the N10 doesn't have enough power for 4.4." I think the features missing from 4.4 on the N10 has more to due with fact that its using an exynos processor and not snapdragon or some other mainstream chip. Exynos chips tend to be more locked down with their drivers and less compatible than other popular chipsets. I haven't come across one app or game that my n10 couldn't run or struggled with. If anything it seems like Google hasn't totally optimized this tablet to its fullest potential on the software end. Also I think the N10 is fine held in portrait mode. It just feels little odd at first if you're not used to a 16:9 tablet.
Like Warren_Orange said, the N10 isn't prefect but its still a great tablet. One thing I would recommend if you decide to purchase it (and are comfortable with) is root it, install a ROM like SlimKat Official build 3 and over clock the CPU and GPU (overclocking the gpu will be the most beneficial to help cope with the screen resolution while overclocking the cpu is totally optional as it already has two powerful A15 cores) while at the same time undevolting. This helps tremendously with the overall performance of the device and other gripes associated with it.
Good luck with your decision! And if you get the chance, please post back and let us know what route you decide to take. We're more than happy to help with more questions that may arise.
Well I love my N10! The battery life isn't that bad. I can usually get close to 10 hours with apps that don't tax the gpu. The charging time does stink... 5 hours is too long. All in all, I've been enjoying mine since last May. Just buy an N7 for now to hold you over to the next 10 incher is released. Purchased one for my wife and she loves it.
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I would definitely buy again, no questions asked.
I don't know what everyone else's problems with the battery life are, I get 1.5-2 days worth of use with mine including leaving it on all night unplugged. Even if the battery life is a "problem" for some, just plug it in each night anyhow and you're good to go.
The screen is phenominal on this thing, the front facing speakers are great as well. There's also plenty of developer activity, and a somewhat minimal amount of people having issues with their devices. The two biggest weak points that people seem to have in terms of having to return it are screen light leak, and the battery occasionally going from ~20% suddenly to 0%. Both of which, are fixed easily by Samsung via a return.
Outside that, I still really like mine, so I say buy one. Especially if you're going to be paying $200 less than what I paid for mine ($499?)
No complaints on battery life from me. The high-res display is what sells this thing, and as an added bonus it has front-facing speakers and is super lightweight. My only complaint is the finicky Wifi; depending where I am in the house, the Wifi becomes dog slow despite a strong signal.
If you can find a good deal on Nexus 10, then yes it's a worthy purchase.
I just got the Nexus 10 as a gift yesterday. So far I am liking it. I have had a rooted nexus 7 32gb first gen since it came out and I love that one. I am trying to decide whether to root the nexus 10 or not. I am sure that the other roms are better for battery life than stock.
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Get a case with the magnet deal allowing it to sleep. Then set wireless to shut off when in sleep mode. This will help allot with battery life. I always charge mine when powered down (mostly overnight) that helps with charging speed some.
I have had the N10 awhile now, running ThunderKat 4.4.2 ROM and Kernel. No complaints here.
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I just got the Nexus 10 as a gift yesterday. So far I am liking it. I have had a rooted nexus 7 32gb first gen since it came out and I love that one. I am trying to decide whether to root the nexus 10 or not. I am sure that the other roms are better for battery life than stock.
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Root it add the recovery of your choice then install Viper4Android, Onandroid, Xposed framework and at least it's Gravity box module. All of which can be found by searching XDA.
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I have been a flash whore with the nexus 7 so I thought I knew what I was doing but what you just suggested to me I have not clue about the other stuff other than the recovery lol I will have to look it up and learn how to do all that.
Thanks.
Joe
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Well I love my N10! The battery life isn't that bad. I can usually get close to 10 hours with apps that don't tax the gpu. The charging time does stink... 5 hours is too long. All in all, I've been enjoying mine since last May. Just buy an N7 for now to hold you over to the next 10 incher is released. Purchased one for my wife and she loves it.
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With PoGo charger it only takes 2 hours, they are really cheap too. Also charges while you use it as well.
I love this tablet. I'm starting to think some people have N10s that were shipped with lemon batteries or something, if I use it occasionally I can go 3-4 days before charging with about 6 hours screen on time. Today (NCAA tournament baby) I abused the tablet all day and still got over 18 hours with 7 hours of screen on time, and it's sitting here hovering around 15%. Virtually all of those 7 hours were with the brightness at about 50% streaming video. Having said that, I got mine in November 2012 and am pretty anal about charging habits. This IS my first tablet, so maybe I'm not expecting as much out of my battery as other users?
I don't think I'll be purchasing the 2014 Nexus 10 (if it ever arrives), the current gen is every thing I need from a tablet and more. I suppose there are now newer tablets with better specs, but would it affect the utility it provides me? I think not.
If you are a spec whore, don't get this tablet. If you are looking for a top notch tablet with decent development that is currently selling for a relatively cheap price tag, GET IT!
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I read that Google is dropping the 10" for a new 8".
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Go for it. Even though i have an android phone or a pc when i get to home my nexus 10 is the only device i use, except for texts and alarm If you know what you can expect from a tab and you consider buying a nexus 10 i can tell you wont regret.
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Root it add the recovery of your choice then install Viper4Android, Onandroid, Xposed framework and at least it's Gravity box module. All of which can be found by searching XDA.
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Thanks for the post, will look into those two as been running pretty vanilla here for awhile.
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I keep seeing these great deals on the Nexus 10. Although it's an old tablet it is well received and still seems to be among the best available. After deciding to wait for the new version, it keeps getting pushed back and who knows when it will actually be available? I think I may just go with the original N10 as my Asus TF300 is absolutely driving me nuts. It's nearly unusable at times... if it's doing any kind of app update or sync, forget it, it's unusable. I am rooted and on a custom ROM and still have issues. I was fed up and need a replacement now. Should I stick with the N10 or maybe look into some other tablets... Budget is around $300...
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If you're still interested, there's a seller on ebay that is listing a brand new 32GB N10 for $300: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/116766/ebay---32gb-samsung-nexus-10-10-android-tablet
I've had N10 for 4 months, it goes alongside my N4 of 14 months and N7 of 20 months.
I use my N7 on long haul flights for space and battery reasons, N10 in hotels and home, N7 when really moving around a lot like on a bike and when going between meetings as it fits in a trouser pocket. My N4's with me all the time.
The N10's battery life really sucks, battery charging is slow, BUT I just use it in proportion to my other devices and I got the Pogo cable, when its not moving around its connected to the Pogo cable, that keeps on top of demand and I've NEVER had flat battery turn off problems. When I'm in situations with high mobility and not expecting much plug-in time I'm using my N7 which lasts longer and charges faster. N10 does say a trans-continent 5 hour flight fine but say California to Europe it can't but a N7 can with possibly an external USB slim battery top-up.
The N10 and N7 bluetooth tethering seamless flawless reliable to the N4 so I got phone and tablet online all the time when on the go.
The N10 absolutely best features are it's display 1st, outstanding, and then its speakers being stereo and forward facing so you can actually sit on your laptop or on desk, etc and sit and watch it would headphones and its just a pleasure.
My N10 crashes in certain situations, so I simply avoid those situations. Its camera doesn't work reliably for say Skype... so I use my N7 or N4 for that.
Just so long as you don't have too high an expectations, don't expect perfection, and use it in contexts which fits its limitations, then for the <$300 figure use it and enjoy. If you limit its use to contexts it should last enough years and betya you can replace its battery with a guide in a couple of years to re-life it if you wanted.
You can spend as much $ buying 1 device which aims to be better but 2 or 3 devices are better, particular as if say you're watching Hulu on you N10 and when annoying commercials (who needs a car anyway) come on just pick up your N7 and check your email, so "multi-window" by other means.
Notice how my N7 is coming to 2 years and still used? Because the big-screen graphics stuff is on the N10 and the battery-hog situations avoid the N10 and go to N7. I think that's the way to go. The idea of one perfect tablet never happens, plus it sucks if it breaks and its all you got.
I got one of these dual USB chargers and the Pogo cable makes all the difference.
Good stuff guys, thanks for all the great info. I did decide to get one as there was a good deal last week. however the 32GB model for $300 is a great deal and if I knew it was coming I would have waited one more week. I received it yesterday and so far so good. Everything I expected so far except the stock email client's hyperlinks aren't clickable. I had to switch to another email client app. I will look into the pogo plug but I'm not sure if I really need it.
I'm still playing with it but the performance so far is as expected and far exceeds the TF300 it is replacing.
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Good stuff guys, thanks for all the great info. I did decide to get one as there was a good deal last week. however the 32GB model for $300 is a great deal and if I knew it was coming I would have waited one more week. I received it yesterday and so far so good. Everything I expected so far except the stock email client's hyperlinks aren't clickable. I had to switch to another email client app. I will look into the pogo plug but I'm not sure if I really need it.
I'm still playing with it but the performance so far is as expected and far exceeds the TF300 it is replacing.
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How is the light bleed on your unit mate?
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How is the light bleed on your unit mate?
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I didn't notice any obnormal light bleed when playing with various brightness settings. Where are you typically seeing the light bleed?
I have been eyeing on this tablet for a week. So far the reviews I read, has some problems with light bleed, heat issues and unknown etc etc.
This have prevented me buying it, but I do hear rumors going around the internet about new Nexus 7 will be made by Google/huawei later in coming months.
Should I hold off nexus 9 and see what Google/Huawei will have a something new toy to offer?
i got 2 9's, one for me and one for my wife. mine has the pure nexus rom and my wife is stock. we both enjoy our tablets and haven't had the first problem.
"light bleed" is a characteristic of backlight LCD displays. They ALL do it. LCD works by having a light on behind it, and selectively blocking light from getting through, but its not absolutely perfect, so a little bit of light gets through anyway.
AMOLED displays use a separate light for each color of each pixel, so when a pixel is off, there is absolutely no light. BUT, AMOLED suffers from "makes your eyes bleed".
Just characteristics of the different types of displays.
As for the CPU... yeah, its a bit of a toaster. Its not a "problem" really, it can just run hot.
Don't buy it expecting a premium device, the screen isn't up to AMOLED standard and the build quality isn't up there with flagships but it is a solid device. I don't see much point in a 7" tablet if you have Nexus 6 or 6P but a Nexus 9 makes good sense. It's a good size, particularly with split screen coming on N. If you can find one on sale go for it.
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Don't buy it expecting a premium device, the screen isn't up to AMOLED standard and the build quality isn't up there with flagships but it is a solid device. I don't see much point in a 7" tablet if you have Nexus 6 or 6P but a Nexus 9 makes good sense. It's a good size, particularly with split screen coming on N. If you can find one on sale go for it.
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I took a pluge.
I recently purchased this from Amazon on deal and I received flawless tablet no light bleeds, but issues is heating is still present in 2016!. I really love this tablet. I have it rooted twrp and have pure Android ROM on it and I leave it charge for night. Next day this Nexus tablet won't charge, thinking it the ROM issues and I had it to twrp back to stock and it charges fine.
Anyone know what the cause not charging, ROM issues?
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I took a pluge.
I recently purchased this from Amazon on deal and I received flawless tablet no light bleeds, but issues is heating is still present in 2016!. I really love this tablet. I have it rooted twrp and have pure Android ROM on it and I leave it charge for night. Next day this Nexus tablet won't charge, thinking it the ROM issues and I had it to twrp back to stock and it charges fine.
Anyone know what the cause not charging, ROM issues?
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I did have an issue with my first Nexus 9. It started crashing and ended up being a hardware issue. I had it replaced however, and my new one has been working great. I'm completely stock. When Marshmallow came out I wiped and flashed the factory image. I like to do that for any major update. I usually clear the cache partition after OTA's. The light bleed is really subjective. I don't see it on mine during anything I could consider regular use. But if I reboot in a dark room, during startup the screen is way brighter than normal. I can see some edge bleeding at that point until the screen dims down. But I typically don't utilize my tablet for watching reboots in the dark, so I don't obsess over it.
Lastly, the heat... Oh the heat. What can I say, my Nexus 5 gets hot when I'm running a game for a while or doing a factory reset and updating apps all over again. Prior to the Nexus 5, I had an HTC One X (snapdragon not Tegra), and it got hot sometimes when running games or anything intense. My first gen Nexus 7 may have gotten hot, but it was always in a case so I honestly didn't notice (or care). Why I should be freaking out all of sudden when my Nexus 9 gets hot around in the area that houses the processor is beyond me. It's a powerful chip with two massive cores and a large GPU. The only time I notice the heat from the chip is when I'm running a game, sometimes during factory reset/update, and chrome. This thing doesn't break a sweat doing anything else. If you are watching downloaded MP4's (don't judge) on something like MX Player, this thing will run for 10 hours nonstop. Chrome is the only real oddball. This is the first device I've used that uses a lot of processing power to run chrome, and it can depend on the web pages. I keep "prefetch page resourses" turned off, and I use the data saving feature as it compresses the data on Google's servers before it's downloaded to your device. I don't know if it makes a hell of a lot of difference, but it makes me feel better!
Other than that, I have to say that I love the display, and for me, whatever tablet comes after this one needs to live up to the sound quality from those front facing speakers.
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I took a pluge.
I recently purchased this from Amazon on deal and I received flawless tablet no light bleeds, but issues is heating is still present in 2016!. I really love this tablet. I have it rooted twrp and have pure Android ROM on it and I leave it charge for night. Next day this Nexus tablet won't charge, thinking it the ROM issues and I had it to twrp back to stock and it charges fine.
Anyone know what the cause not charging, ROM issues?
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Apparently it only appears not to charge, if you reboot the battery level with refresh to the actual level.
If you're on Pure Nexus ROM this is common, flashing Fire Ice kernel solves the problem.
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Don't buy it expecting a premium device, the screen isn't up to AMOLED standard
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The screen is a HELL of a lot BETTER than amoled CRAP.
I'm speaking from experience. Two amoled devices, one of which is a Nexus 6. They're terrible.
and the build quality isn't up there with flagships but it is a solid device.
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The build quality is just as good as anything else out there. Glass face, aluminum trim. Not much to go wrong there.
I don't see much point in a 7" tablet if you have Nexus 6 or 6P but a Nexus 9 makes good sense. It's a good size, particularly with split screen coming on N. If you can find one on sale go for it.
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LeonKnight12 said:
I took a pluge.
I recently purchased this from Amazon on deal and I received flawless tablet no light bleeds, but issues is heating is still present in 2016!. I really love this tablet. I have it rooted twrp and have pure Android ROM on it and I leave it charge for night. Next day this Nexus tablet won't charge, thinking it the ROM issues and I had it to twrp back to stock and it charges fine.
Anyone know what the cause not charging, ROM issues?
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If putting it back to stock fixed it, then you have your answer.
Not all hacked up crap you download from random places on the internet is actually functional.
Back to the original question for others......
Yes it is worth buying but only for the right price and if you're prepared to root. A few users seem OK with stock but most are not happy performance wise.
If you could make do with only a 7" screen, I'd save the money and get the Nexus 7 2013 personally. Much better performance for way less money. :angel:
after a year using it as my everyday device it certainly changed the way i used my phone.
on my phone i use only nessesary apps like navigation, messenger and similar, no more games , only little bit of news,
everything else is now on my nexus, from music , games, news, video.. and iam almost really happy with it.
i have some issue with battery lifetime, no wonder given how much i use it
the size is perfect for reding and surving, given for video a 16:9 would be better but overall i like this more.
performance wise iam ok with it since i dont do some real intesive stuff,
so bottom line as a recreational device, to read your newspaper and websites, plays a little, listen to music and stuff is absolutly worth it.
given you get updates for an insane long time its absoltuly worth the deal. its not the absolute flagship then agian it doenst need to be to be good and fun.
btw it has apt-x even you wont find much about it in the specs, it has it and it works. huge difference for watching videos and wirless bluetooths
and i take this everytime over better built samsungs who are doomed to no updates after 2 years
Cheers all.
My tablet compact is very dear to me, but it's getting to the point where I have to consider my next move. Phablets won't cut it for me anymore, I can't go back to 6" phones. But apart from Samsung and Huawei, I don't see many quality devices in our range. Sony hit my sweet spot with the screen size, build quality, battery and waterproofing. Hard to move on.
What's your next device? Have you considered any?
I quite fancy the z4, yes it's bigger, but it's seriously good
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/tablets/best-android-tablets-uk-2016-3265118/
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Interesting thread as I just got the z3 tablet today. After last few months moving from one tablet to another I think I've found the right one.
The nexus 9. My second current and soon to be former is terrible! Can't believe I'm saying this about a nexus but it really is bad. Performance is terrible. Ram management so bad and makes true multitasking non existent really.
Prior to this I had a Samsung tab pro 10.1. It was almost as bad as the nexus. Can't decide really. Think it was worst. Lag after lag after lag.
Anyway, so I was looking for something that I could settle on performance wise as well as build quality... and a great display. So far so good. After just one day I can see huge differences. 3 gigs of ram for true multitasking. No lags. I think I will hold onto this one for quite some time.
And the design and build quality is superb.
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Interesting thread as I just got the z3 tablet today. After last few months moving from one tablet to another I think I've found the right one.
The nexus 9. My second current and soon to be former is terrible! Can't believe I'm saying this about a nexus but it really is bad. Performance is terrible. Ram management so bad and makes true multitasking non existent really.
Prior to this I had a Samsung tab pro 10.1. It was almost as bad as the nexus. Can't decide really. Think it was worst. Lag after lag after lag.
Anyway, so I was looking for something that I could settle on performance wise as well as build quality... and a great display. So far so good. After just one day I can see huge differences. 3 gigs of ram for true multitasking. No lags. I think I will hold onto this one for quite some time.
And the design and build quality is superb.
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I think you'll be happy with your purchase. The XZ3TC is the finest tablet I've owned and I'm surprised it wasn't better received. I suppose Sony need to reprimand the marketing department. The worst thing about the XZ3TC is the camera, and that's saying a lot IMO.
Interesting to hear that about the nexus, as I understand it is widely praised. Will stay away then.
If I can't find a suitable replacement for my XZ3TC, I'll simply by another and use that while waiting for the next one
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I think you'll be happy with your purchase. The XZ3TC is the finest tablet I've owned and I'm surprised it wasn't better received. I suppose Sony need to reprimand the marketing department. The worst thing about the XZ3TC is the camera, and that's saying a lot IMO.
Interesting to hear that about the nexus, as I understand it is widely praised. Will stay away then.
If I can't find a suitable replacement for my XZ3TC, I'll simply by another and use that while waiting for the next one
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Well after three days it's all good i can say. Leagues ahead of my previous devices in terms of performance, build and battery life. Over 7 hours screen on time and counting with half brightness. Wow!
The camera seems OK. I don't really use cameras on tablets so it's never an issue.
I'm also surprised by the Nexus 9. I had such high hopes as I've had many Nexus devices previously. The Nexus 7 (2013) was the best tablet I had to date, so I was expecting a lot. I would say the most disappointing purchase I've ever made with the Nexus 9. That's how bad it turned out to be.
Screen and front speakers are both great. build is OK. But performance (where Nexus devices traditionally shine) is terrible. Battery life is also not very good.
I think it's fundamental to a few things.
A. 64 bit android needs more memory.
B. A quad HD display needs more capable hardware (again it comes down to ram)
C. 2 gigs of ram is not enough./
It is literally not possible to have any decent amount of apps in memory on the Nexus 9. Almost every app needs to be reloaded once you navigate away from it. Multitasking is terrible.
There are also lots of slowdowns, freezes and lags throughout the user experience. I've done factory resets, rooted and gone back to stock, you name it. Terrible.
Add to that, I stopped rooting nexus devices years ago. Precisely because they are so good out the box nowadays. Nexus 9 excluding that is.
But anyway. I am very happy with the xperia z3 tablet.
simple DONT change it.Wait till something better with new technology will come out!Don't waste your money dude to take something similar...This tablet is the most perfect piece of art till now! ?
I wouldn't replace my xz3tc for long.
There is no real alternative and the performance is more than enough.
zuz mobile / edge
I just shattered my screen at Ikea, bummed out. But ordered a screen via eBay from the UK. Taking it to a fixer shop this week. Hopefully the glass isn't crap, will post here when the glass is replaced. LCD is luckily just fine!
Been looking for a replacement for this device, but even with a shattered glass screen there is none. Sony did a damn fine job here.
Yes, I love my tablet - it is the right combination of everything and since the market is racing to the bottom to get sales I'm glad to see it is still well regarded two years down the line.