On the seperate one tick whether or not you have it. Personally I can spot mine in normal usage at some auto brightness levels. I know that a lot of this will fall under personal opinion, but I would like to hear what people think.
This thread is pretty pointless. The severity is going to be everyone's opinion. There is no set way to measure it without comparing all the devices. And taking pictures of the device is a bad way to measure it because light bleed is amplified horrendously on a camera. Personally, I don't think the light bleed on my N10 is bad at ALL, possibly because I'm somewhat used to it due to my monitor having it.
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This thread is pretty pointless. The severity is going to be everyone's opinion. There is no set way to measure it without comparing all the devices. And taking pictures of the device is a bad way to measure it because light bleed is amplified horrendously on a camera. Personally, I don't think the light bleed on my N10 is bad at ALL, possibly because I'm somewhat used to it due to my monitor having it.
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Perhaps, but I would like to see how bad people think their light bleed is. Personally I have compared it to several other of my devices (galaxy tab 2 7.0, ipad 2, galaxy player 5.0) and none of them have it this bad.
If I stare at the bottom right corner, on a completely black screen, with max brightness, I can notice slight bleed. Looking at the same corner under any other conditions and I can't make out any bleed lol.
If I stare at the bottom right corner, on a completely black screen, with max brightness, I can notice slight bleed. Looking at the same corner under any other conditions and I can't make out any bleed lol.
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Idk, this makes we want to send mine back and try for another, but I don't want to do that and get a worse one back. I can see mine at 100 percent brightness and if I stare at it I can pretty easily see it under normal conditions. My friend couldn't see it for like 20 minutes though, so maybe I am just crazy. With that said he can spot it pretty easily now.
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Idk, this makes we want to send mine back and try for another, but I don't want to do that and get a worse one back. I can see mine at 100 percent brightness and if I stare at it I can pretty easily see it under normal conditions. My friend couldn't see it for like 20 minutes though, so maybe I am just crazy. With that said he can spot it pretty easily now.
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If it's going to be a concern in the long run, I might suggest just returning it.
Currently, I have a multi-touch issue with my screen that doesn't seem to like when I use more then 3 fingers at random times. Although the chances of me using more then 3 fingers is... extremely rare; it does sort of bother me a bit lol. But then again, aside from that, and the very minor bleed I have, everything else seems fine... hmm
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If it's going to be a concern in the long run, I might suggest just returning it.
Currently, I have a multi-touch issue with my screen that doesn't seem to like when I use more then 3 fingers at random times. Although the chances of me using more then 3 fingers is... extremely rare; it does sort of bother me a bit lol. But then again, aside from that, and the very minor bleed I have, everything else seems fine... hmm
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Ha ha, almost seems like a best of the worst sort of thing. If it doesn't have one issue it has another. Also the cable they sent me doesn't charge the tablet, I have to use the one that came with my sgs3.
Good to see that the majority has none. Just ordered a new unit. We shall see how this turns out.
My option is not there. Only visible on the start up screen and only when the auto brightness adjusts. They could probably just fix mine by disabling auto brightness on boot up and there would be no way I can see it. Lol
For the people that said they don't have any:
When did you order and is this your first unit?
I'm not sure if mine really counts as light bleed. Since playing with it for a couple of hours I've only noticed two small spots on the very bottom about the width of my small finger. I need to have brightness set to about 60% and a completely dark background to really see it. During normal use with auto brightness on I don't notice it. Is it really possible to get zero light spots in all conditions with these screens?
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I'm not sure if mine really counts as light bleed. Since playing with it for a couple of hours I've only noticed two small spots on the very bottom about the width of my small finger. I need to have brightness set to about 60% and a completely dark background to really see it. During normal use with auto brightness on I don't notice it. Is it really possible to get zero light spots in all conditions with these screens?
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That's still light bleed, but I can see mine all the time. It sounds minor.
So far not so good. 14 people don't have light bleed and 15 people do.
I ordered mine 5 minutes after they went on sale. No light bleed.
Well I called for an RMA. Before the csr put it through, I got assurance that should the replacement have worse problems that I could RMA the replacement and keep the original. My problem is a little annoying but I have no desire to go through 6 or more replacements to find that perfect device. Other than the dim strip this thing is flawless so I'd rather not risk warped backs, reboots, or a worse panel. Here's to hoping the one replacement is defect free.
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Well I called for an RMA. Before the csr put it through, I got assurance that should the replacement have worse problems that I could RMA the replacement and keep the original. My problem is a little annoying but I have no desire to go through 6 or more replacements to find that perfect device. Other than the dim strip this thing is flawless so I'd rather not risk warped backs, reboots, or a worse panel. Here's to hoping the one replacement is defect free.
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You and me both lol, I really hope my replacement doesn't have worse light bleed.
Before returning your Nexus 10...
Call Google and speak to TECH SUPPORT AND NOT CUSTOMER SUPPORT!
I complained about light bleed in my first one, and later came to find out that the idiot in CS put down that I was returning it due to remorse, which means I'd have to pay the restocking fee. Tech will put your return reason as defective or DOA so you don't get charged the fee.
No light bleed on mine. I was surprised since my last two Android tablets (transformer and toshiba excite 10) both had some light bleed noticeable on the black boot screen.
Hi,
order Thursday 22 and Friday 23 received. I also have the problem of "light leakage" on the bottom right corner.
How is the replacement? Should your return the product for exchange or google you refer another product? and then send the product deffect .
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So far not so good. 14 people don't have light bleed and 15 people do.
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Worth bearing in mind that the numbers are skewed somewhat toward people who are concerned about this topic, with a good chance that they have a light bleed problem -- these are generally the folks who will open this thread and vote in the poll. If you could be confident that all XDA readers in the N10 forum would vote, the percentage would be scarier. Not sure how meaningful the stats will really be that are collected in this thread.
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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http://www.flexcode.org/lcd2.html
let it load
select "fix my screen"
if it doesnt go away after it runs... if it doesnt auto close after a minute, just close it
its a dead pixel
return son!
No dice. Thanks anyway.
Guess this bad boy is going back...
I got a replacement Prime yesterday and thought everything was perfect until I opened my web browser to google, which is pretty much all white and noticed a bright spot like you are describing in the title. Mine are definitely NOT stuck/dead pixels. I know because I returned my first one in part because of stuck pixels. It's almost like these pixel(s) allow slightly more light through than the adjacent pixels. Sort of like light bleed but not at the edge of the screen. I can only see it on white or very, very light backgrounds. It disappears entirely on darker colors.
It is unfortunate but I will not replace this again for a third time. It goes away unless my Prime is charging or docked (which I assume is because it is similar to the tablet being plugged in) and can only be seen on an all white background. I will never use my tablet plugged in, I charge it at night when I sleep, and the limited amount I have it docked is not an issue since it only shows up on an all white background and seems less noticeable than a dead/stuck pixel. Honestly, a smudged screen is more noticeable/annoying. Since I don't use my dock much it will probably end up having a dead battery anyway which means I really wouldn't see it much, unless the battery in the dock is required for it to function while attached, I'm not sure but will find out. Thinking about it I guess it probably does need to be charged for the ports and everything to work unless it leaches off the tablet. Who knows...I'll test it at some point.
It is kind of strange though and I really dislike trying to justify a flaw to keep a $500 device but whatever. IPS screens have some nice benefits but they seem to have a lot of flaws too like bright spots, pretty bad light bleed and more stuck pixels than I am used too. I went back and forth in my OCD head so many times about how many times I would exchange or return this device before I get one that is pristine but if I return it there is nothing else that interests me.
Asus had quality issues with their past Transformer and to think the 1080p tablet will be any different is ignorant.
Anyway, end blog. Since that's what XDA is now
Where did you guys get yours from?
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Where did you guys get yours from?
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Best Buy, ordered 1/6.
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
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If it's only 2 pixels and they are not directly adjacent, it's unlikely that they will take it back as that is deemed an acceptable tolerance for dead/stuck pixels. I think you need to have 5 or more total or 2 directly adjacent.
Pretty much all manufacturers use this guideline I believe. I hope I am wrong and you do get to exchange it.
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I had one dead pixel on my Xoom and Best Buy replaced it without even turning it on to verify
I had two stuck pixels when I first got my Prime. Running pixel fixer apps didn't fix the problem. However, both of them have "unstuck" themselves after a few days of use. If you have some time before you have to return it, you may want to wait a little.
EDIT: Check that. I just ran a dead pixel test and only one of the two unstuck itself. The other one is so unnoticeable to me that I haven't seen it.
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Two small pinpoints of white light on the screen. Are these dead pixels? Stuck Pixels?
I'm guessing that either way I should exchange it. So, apparently Asus is going to be having quality issues?
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Same issue here, bottom right of the screen, small patch of white light in the browser window about an inch from the corner..
Not sure whether to return, the rest of the tablet is awesome!!
I just got another one and about 7 dead pixels the kind you can see on
Black screens and also slightly a bit of light bleed where the headphone jack is
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So far I have returned 2 primes because of bad screen bleeding and every time it is getting worse. MUCH WORSE.
Just gut my 3rd 10 mins ago and this is what I get.
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Great thread bro.
No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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No offense but you're a liability to Asus. You should buy an ipad instead.
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how dare you make a ridiculous suggestion on my thread! lol
noone. really. cares.
please. make these threads stop.
Welcome to the club. I returned 3. I don't care so much about screen bleed though, especially on the boot screen where it is most noticeable. I had stuck pixels and other weird issues.
I had two Primes with screen defects. I returned both and finally gave up on the TF201. I like the tablet overall; but lets get honest - someone over there in Taiwan is sleeping on the job when it comes to quality control. They need to be fired. It's absolutely unacceptable in this day and age for the same people to receive multiple defective units. Any my screen defects were not minor - they were pretty glaring.
Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
1st return due to dead pixels
2nd returning tomorrow due to 3 light bleeds
hope the 3rd one will be the one
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Screen bleed is not even noticeable in everdsy use or during regular functions. it's only during bootup. if its minor, then that's normal. if its major bleeding, then exchange once again.
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all my apps have a bowl or dark background. And i mainly use it at night. So it is considered regular use for me. But this light bleeding is so bad you can see is in bright light on low brightness. I should if kept my first one. At least I could sort of tolerate it
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Same here:
1 returned for lots of stuck pixels and backlight bleed
2 even more stuck pixels, less bleed
3 almost no stuck pixels (still some though) but the worse in backlight bleed and had a creaking screen
Tomorrow I will get my 4th unit, but I don't get my hopes to high up
* I know IPS screens cannot be without some light bleeding completely, but my specimens all had these nasty large "bulbs" which can even been seen on lighter backgrounds.
Returned my second prime today. Light bleed and off center screen. Bestbuy had one other there.but it was onhold!! Grr.. Want my tablet back.
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No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
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No wonder people are struggling to get a TP, all you guys are returning them for minor issues.....don't like screen bleed? Turn the light on when using it..there problem solved.
Asus would've done fine with sales if people weren't so anal about minor things like screen bleed or not being able to use GPS in their concrete and lead lined houses. Well done you guys
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Looking at your pic, i really didnt notice much diffference from my boot up either..
Some people are incredibly fussy, and ruin it for everyone else.
youre going to get the most perfect non-bleeding TF201 soon, then drop it on the pavement...
Then start complaining about the quality of build...
Harden up
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they should have made a white bootup screen. Then no one would have noticed it...
I dont have my prime yet but i guess its the same as with my phone? For the bootup screen brightness is set to 100%?
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Yes it looks like the boot screen is set to 100%. Mine looks very poor too. Once passed the boot screen no complaints
I've had screen bleed on two Primes that was noticeable on ANY dark background and detracted from the enjoyment of using the device. I also had one where the light bleed was not noticeable on any (normal) screen, and I would have kept that one had it not had other problems (non-functional haptic feedback, a rattle near one of the dock connectors that got worse over time).
My wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 has zero light bleed. My original Transformer had tons of light bleed that was only visible when booting; I never noticed it otherwise during 8 months of use.
Light bleed is something that I think it highly subjective as to whether or not it's a problem. Nobody can say one way or another whether it's a problem for a given person and/or with a given device. Returning a device because it has an issue like this, therefore, is entirely appropriate and it's ridiculous to assert otherwise. Keeping a device with light bleed can also be entirely appropriate.
People have different standards for their devices. And nobody should feel like returning a device somehow deprives another consumer. It's up to the company to make enough of something, not for every potential purchaser to bite the bullet so some stranger can move up in the line.
If you are looking for perfection in something, I think you'll be highly disappointed.
Mine has some bleed but I don't even notice it once ICS is up and running.
I completely disagree. If you spend your hard earned money on something it should be free from defects. I havent complained about the gps at all. I personally do not care. The people that do care however I leave alone because gps is stated on the box. It doesnt say sometimes working gps it says gps. As for screen bleed and dead pixels....are you kidding me?? Do I agree with the hundreds of threads on the issues? No. But I do believe your product should work as advertised. Guess what, Asus isnt doing charity work here. Ever heard of cost of doing business? I run a 3 million dollar a year high end tile and stone store and i replace material for what sometimes seems like nothing to me but then I remeber..oh yeah these people that are spending 4-6k on their bathrooms are WRITING my paycheck....If something has a minor chip or scratch..guess what? Its replaced. No questions asked. This is the reason my company has gone from 24 stores to 62 store in the last 5 years. Im not talking 800sf gamestops either.. im talking 25000sf 3+ million to open showrooms. So if you are a manufacture like us sometimes you need to SUCK IT UP and do the right thing. No matter how insignificant it may seem to you these people work hard for their money just like I do. If Asus was non profit maybe I would feel different but they arent. They are in it to win it and are competing with the big boys in town and need to get their act together!!!!
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Good for posting this, it will let others know just how bad it really is.
My first prime from Gamestop has screen bleed and horrible performance, i sold it and got another from Office Depot which so far has been perfect (besides the gps,wifi and bluetooth defects we all have).
I was going to try and sell my second prime and be done with Asus all together but nobody around here will buy it lol, so I decided to just hang on to it.
A device like this should come with no defects, and you shouldn't be expected to lay down and just take it in the rear.
Hey fellow EVO lovers how's everyone doing, this is my first thread ever so I hope I don't get bashed too hard, anyways so my issue is im having light bleed from the home button and I know its a common problem, my question is what are you guys doing about it exchanging the phone or just dealing with it? I know its not a big deal and doesn't affect performance but its been bugging me lately, is there any mod to dim the backlight. I really don't want to exchange phone since this is my second one first one had lifted screen, also does light bleed get worse over time and does it affect battery life at all, thanks for any input and yes I'm ready to get flamed
Does it bother you? If so, get it replaced. If not, don't worry about it.
I had the same problem but it was only noticeable in a dark room with a black background... I changed only cuz I have ocd when it comes to things like that.
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Yeah, I have it, but I only notice at night, when I first open my Kindle app (black background). I am just going to ignore it, it's such a minor thing.
I think I'm going to go ahead and keep it, its really not a big problem and. Is only noticeable at night on a dark back ground, I just wanted to make sure it doesn't get worse over time or effect battery life, thanks for the input guys
Yea I have that problem also, but as soon I put a less bright background on the cell phone I haven't noticed it
Light bleed? What is this light bleed you speak of?
I got my phone last night and see no lightbleed at all. Even at full brightness in a dark room there is no light bleed in the slightest. There is a TAD bit of light barely coming out where the camera button is....but if that is what you're talking about, then you need to get a life.
EDIT: Oh, I see it near the capacitive buttons... You barely can see it, unless your brightness is maxed and are on a black screen. Big deal...the screen is still 100x better than that pentile SIII screen.
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Light bleed? What is this light bleed you speak of?
I got my phone last night and see no lightbleed at all. Even at full brightness in a dark room there is no light bleed in the slightest. There is a TAD bit of light barely coming out where the camera button is....but if that is what you're talking about, then you need to get a life.
EDIT: Oh, I see it near the capacitive buttons... You barely can see it, unless your brightness is maxed and are on a black screen. Big deal...the screen is still 100x better than that pentile SIII screen.
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That is most likely not what he is talking about. The common light bleed is two white streaks of light that shoot up from the home button. It is more than what you described.
My phone had slight light bleed from the day I got it... Which was never a big deal. For some reason it is getting worse, I can see it in the daytime sometimes. Would this be covered under sprint I insurance, deductible free?
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That is most likely not what he is talking about. The common light bleed is two white streaks of light that shoot up from the home button. It is more than what you described.
My phone had slight light bleed from the day I got it... Which was never a big deal. For some reason it is getting worse, I can see it in the daytime sometimes. Would this be covered under sprint I insurance, deductible free?
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Yes that is what I am talking about I get 2 streaks of light coming from the home bottom on mine it's only noticeable on low brightness with a dark background, its not really a big deal I only notice it at night.
As far as sprint insurance it should be covered but I do believe you will have to pay deductible unless you are within the 14 day return period in which case they will replace it for free
My main concern was to make sure battery life wasn't affected by the light bleed because I'm getting way less battery life with this EVO than I did with my first evo, I'm getting about 12 hours now compared to around 20 before running same Rom,settings, apps
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I'd say if it is affecting performance, functionality, or battery life, it is worth replacing. If none of the above are affected, then I think the headache of going through replacing it would be worse than the problem itself. At the end of the day it is up to you.
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Damn it. I just noticed that my phone has this, as well. Don't know that I want to have it replaced as everything else (even those issues that the majority seem to have), so far, is working perfect on this device.
Will Sprint replace with no questions asked for this reason? Obviously, if I decided to, I would have to relock and return to stock, right?
So I'm asking this because I'm planning on returning my nexus 9 tomorrow and getting a replacement, because I have the following
Light bleed
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
crappy buttons on the side
The back creaks slightly
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
J
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So I'm asking this because I'm planning on returning my nexus 9 tomorrow and getting a replacement, because I have the following
Light bleed
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
crappy buttons on the side
The back creaks slightly
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
J
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I suggest you to wait. As far as I know it's a matter of luck of getting a device with none of the known defects. Older and younger builds do have defects.
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Although I brought my mine in December, I guess I got a crappy unit
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LOL, characteristic of LCD. Get used to it -- they ALL do it. If you don't like it, your ONLY option is LED.
Terrible battery life ( Max of 5 hours SOC )
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Turn down the brightness. Its a big screen, the brighter its set, the less the life. And 5 hours screen on is HUGE.
crappy buttons on the side
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I quite like the buttons on these things, bit harder to press so you have to really mean it. Nexus 7 is a problem because it is too easy to accidentally bump the buttons.
The back creaks slightly
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So quit twisting it.
Is it worth returning or do you think I'll get the same issues again or maybe worse?
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Definitely not worth returning. All you do by returning, is make the next version more expensive for the rest of us by costing HTC and Google for your pointless warranty claim.
I did return it and got a decent unit
J
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LOL, characteristic of LCD. Get used to it -- they ALL do it. If you don't like it, your ONLY option is LED.
Turn down the brightness. Its a big screen, the brighter its set, the less the life. And 5 hours screen on is HUGE.
I quite like the buttons on these things, bit harder to press so you have to really mean it. Nexus 7 is a problem because it is too easy to accidentally bump the buttons.
So quit twisting it.
Definitely not worth returning. All you do by returning, is make the next version more expensive for the rest of us by costing HTC and Google for your pointless warranty claim.
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Are you ****ing kidding me here? Ya let's let ALL these issues go, so the NEXT tablet that comes out is an even bigger piece of **** with more problems because people like you let them get away with it.
Let me ask you this, should we accept ALL light bleed as OK no matter how bad, or is there a cutoff at some point where its no longer acceptable? Right off the bat I'll tell you youre wrong because they don't ALL do it. I just returned a nexus 9 that had next to 0 light bleed. I've never, not once in my life exchanged a device for any reason. Never. But im on my 4th nexus 9, 2 of which had almost no light bleed at all. My last ones screen flickered so bad and the speakers froze and cut in and out so much I couldn't deal with it anymore, which was number 2 nexus 9. Open the new one tonight in the parking lot and boot it. Horrendous lightbleed and volume buttons that were literally ****ing recessed into the frame. I don't know about you, but I'm not a god damn woman so I don't have fingernails to reach a recessed button, and I for damn sure ain't carrying around a ****ing paperclip to adjust the volume on a tablet. So I exchange it. Get nexus 9 #4. Buttons stick out of frame perfectly. Completely different from the one i just had in my hands. But that's not a quality control issue to you. I should have kept the one that had unpressable volume buttons so you won't have to pay more for your next tablet. Too ****ing bad buddy. I'll return EVERY single piece of **** I get, and GLADY pay more for the next version if I don't need a paper clip to adjust the volume, Dramamine for the constant screen flicker, and a speaker that actually plays sound.
Yes or no is this acceptable light bleed?
And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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I've got the same thing. Plus, the microphone seems to have issues (sensitivity is so low, that it won't hear any "okay google" unless i really scream at it, for instance)! I would return it, but i am too afraid i might get an even worse unit.
Turns out HTC and Google really messed everything up with this one. I guess i was lucky to end up with a yellow-tinted Nexus 9 because, according to all people's reports, that might just be the best hardware version of it! With that in mind, I've never been so unsatisfied about a purchase before. I've always accepted some minor issues as i don't believe there are perfect devices, but i've never heard about so many different and major issues, especially for a tablet of this price. Not even to mention about the software issues, so far. This is just rediculous!
Huh ...
My new Sand model arrived with no issues out of the box ... excellent build quality, no issues with colors in the screen, and no bleeding backlight.
Where are y'all buying these things with all these issues?
I ordered mine directly off the play store.
I bought mine from Expansys (Europe). It's a pretty late batch (HTC4CC, which I think means December) therefore no back bending, no deep volume buttons and normal lightbleed for an LCD. But the fact that there are still issues and the quality of such an expensive tablet is questionable enough to make you stick with a yellowish screen, is really depressing. Anyway, I am really glad yours is perfect and I hope next batches manage to be as good as this tablet should be, but that doesn't change the fact that HTC and Google really dropped the ball on this one.
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And if I sounded pissy in that post, its because on nexus #4 I just noticed the entire upper left hand side of my screen is completely ****ing yellow/brown, it looks like absolute ****. So even this one has bad light bleed when the screen is dark, and when the screen is light, 1/4 of it is piss yellow. This tablet came from the store today, so much for issues being fixed.
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Your image is designed to exaggerate a non-problem into a problem.
Dark ambient = long exposure.
Also your picture isn't taken straight on. Its at an angle with the "bad" corner closest to the camera.
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Your image is designed to exaggerate a non-problem into a problem.
Dark ambient = long exposure.
Also your picture isn't taken straight on. Its at an angle with the "bad" corner closest to the camera.
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OK, so you're telling ME, the one who had the tablet in front of my face it didn't have light bleed and I purposefully 'designed' this picture to exaggerate a problem? Here's the bottom line and I could not give 2 flying ****s what you think I did or didn't do. My tablet had horrible HORRIBLE light bleed. How it looks in that picture is pretty damn close to how it looked in person while in a dark room. Period, end of story. You can check my post history going back to 2010 and see how many times I've complained about devices or *****ed about light bleed. Good luck finding any.
Im a member here to gain knowledge and help people when i can. I have enough devices to damn near fill a small bathtub, and theyre all the the same ones i bought day one never exchanged. In case you werent aware, most of us here are not ****ing retards and know lcds will have a SMALL amount of light bleed.. This is not a small amount, its an unacceptable amount. If You think I'm suddenly trying make **** up or make unwarranted complaints about a screen for no reason, you're flat out wrong.
For someone with the name doitright, you for damn sure aren't holding HTC to that standard.
So if take a picture of all my older tablets next to the nexus 9, they should all basically look the same then correct? By your logic they should all look similiar(according to you, this is a normal, acceptable amount that should be exhibited by all of my older tablets- including 2 nexus 7's) and the nexus 9 should look no worse than the rest correct? 100$ says they don't. Willing to put your money where your mouth is?
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OK, so you're telling ME, the one who had the tablet in front of my face it didn't have light bleed and I purposefully 'designed' this picture to exaggerate a problem? Here's the bottom line and I could not give 2 flying ****s what you think I did or didn't do. My tablet had horrible HORRIBLE light bleed. How it looks in that picture is pretty damn close to how it looked in person while in a dark room. Period, end of story. You can check my post history going back to 2010 and see how many times I've complained about devices or *****ed about light bleed. Good luck finding any.
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No, what I'm saying is that you are too picky and expecting something unreasonable from your hardware, which is working perfectly well. People like you who repeatedly send your hardware back under warranty for imaginary "problems" that are perfectly within the design specifications of the device **AND NOT EVEN CORRECTED** by the warranty replacement, cause the price of hardware to increase for the rest of us, because the cost of that warranty replacement is distributed to EVERYONE who buys that hardware.
I suggest that you return it and buy yourself a ROCK AND A CHISEL. At least if you complain about that, it won't increase the price for the rest of us.
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No, what I'm saying is that you are too picky and expecting something unreasonable from your hardware, which is working perfectly well. People like you who repeatedly send your hardware back under warranty for imaginary "problems" that are perfectly within the design specifications of the device **AND NOT EVEN CORRECTED** by the warranty replacement, cause the price of hardware to increase for the rest of us, because the cost of that warranty replacement is distributed to EVERYONE who buys that hardware.
I suggest that you return it and buy yourself a ROCK AND A CHISEL. At least if you complain about that, it won't increase the price for the rest of us.
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Are you a ****ing moron? Let's try reading shall we?
1) I just said in the post you quoted I've NEVER in my life exchanged or returned any devices out of literally dozens. Obviously besides the nexus 9, but since you don't seem to fully read my previous comments in this thread I feel I need to point this out.
2) I haven't warrantied ONE nexus 9. I bought mine from best buy after launch and had until Jan 15 to exchange. So I did. If you actually READ my posts you'll see each one was returned for multiple issues, light bleed being at the back of my list of issues that concern me.
Would you keep a device that had speakers that didn't work? Yes or no? Would you keep a device that had volume buttons LITERALLY recessed inside the frame, making them completely unable to be pressed? Yes or no? Light bleed just happened to be another issue to top these major defects off.
So, since all these problems HAVE been noted in this thread, in fact I'm pretty sure they were in posts you quoted me on, you're telling me non-working speakers and unpressable buttons are both imaginary and within design specs?
Throw horrendous light bleed on top for icing on the cake.
Hi everyone,
I got my nexus 9 last week from Best Buy. The serial number is HT4C, which means it has been manufactured in December of 2014.
I don't have like any problems with it so far, except the light bleed I think. I was not sure if this is too bad or this is normal and I can't get any Nexus 9 to have better LCD than this, so I decided to attach some pictures so maybe you guys can suggest either I should go and ask for a replacement or just deal with the current one...for comparison I have also put a pic I took in similar condition from my HTC One M8 screen...
Everything else is working fine..the volume button is working great and no problem with back cover...but also sometimes I feel when pressing the multi tasking button there is a delay to show the app, would anyone know how to fix this (is this even a problem?).
Thanks!
arminvm said:
Hi everyone,
I got my nexus 9 last week from Best Buy. The serial number is HT4C, which means it has been manufactured in December of 2014.
I don't have like any problems with it so far, except the light bleed I think. I was not sure if this is too bad or this is normal and I can't get any Nexus 9 to have better LCD than this, so I decided to attach some pictures so maybe you guys can suggest either I should go and ask for a replacement or just deal with the current one...for comparison I have also put a pic I took in similar condition from my HTC One M8 screen...
Everything else is working fine..the volume button is working great and no problem with back cover...but also sometimes I feel when pressing the multi tasking button there is a delay to show the app, would anyone know how to fix this (is this even a problem?).
Thanks!
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A slight delay every so often when hitting the recent app button shouldn't be any indication of a major issue. Unless you are having major lag, I wouldn't worry about it. It's really hard to judge how bad light bleed is in real world use from pics. My Nexus 9 does have some visible light bleed during boot up while the screen back light is unrestricted, but during use it is not noticeable at all. Even when watching letter boxed movies. I'm sure it would probably look much worse than it is if I took a pic of it during boot up. Honestly, if the only time you can see it is during boot and it isn't giving you issues during use, I wouldn't bother returning or exchanging. This device really has a beautiful display and, although I'm sure there are a few people with really bad screens, I think the issue is being over exaggerated.
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A slight delay every so often when hitting the recent app button shouldn't be any indication of a major issue. Unless you are having major lag, I wouldn't worry about it. It's really hard to judge how bad light bleed is in real world use from pics. My Nexus 9 does have some visible light bleed during boot up while the screen back light is unrestricted, but during use it is not noticeable at all. Even when watching letter boxed movies. I'm sure it would probably look much worse than it is if I took a pic of it during boot up. Honestly, if the only time you can see it is during boot and it isn't giving you issues during use, I wouldn't bother returning or exchanging. This device really has a beautiful display and, although I'm sure there are a few people with really bad screens, I think the issue is being over exaggerated.
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Thanks.
I agree, this is why I posted this here. However, the problem is there whenever there is something with a black screen, like when watching movies, I can't avoid looking at black stripes on the top and bottom and see the light bleed....which is kind of annoying.
But overall, the display is great, very warm colors and good contrast.
Also, regarding the delay..no I am not experiencing lags, but sometimes when i.e. I play the FiFa ultimate for 2hrs and then come out of the game it takes 1 second or so to home screen get loaded.
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Thanks.
I agree, this is why I posted this here. However, the problem is there whenever there is something with a black screen, like when watching movies, I can't avoid looking at black stripes on the top and bottom and see the light bleed....which is kind of annoying.
But overall, the display is great, very warm colors and good contrast.
Also, regarding the delay..no I am not experiencing lags, but sometimes when i.e. I play the FiFa ultimate for 2hrs and then come out of the game it takes 1 second or so to home screen get loaded.
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I watch a lot of Netflix, etc in bed with the lights off when the wife is sleeping, so it would probably drive me a little crazy if the lightbleed was very noticeable under those conditions.
Taking a second to load the homescreen after two hours of gaming isn't anything to worry about. Some apps will do that, some won't from my experience.
I have one of the first Nexus 9's, a white 32gb. I'm very happy with the screen and have had no performance issues other than what we've come to expect from Android. The only (non)issue with mine si a slightly flush volume up button on the volume rocker. But it still clicks nicely and I've never considered returning mine.
I was playing with two demos at the local best buy the other day and the buttons on the white demo they had were horrible! But the Black demo had the most raised buttons I've ever seen. They were amazing, a made a very firm "click" when pressing them. But, when I went into the settings and started scrolling, the screen started to do this weird purple flickering thing, so what can you do?
As long as you are happy with yours, that's all that really matters.
A couple weeks ago i bought 2 nexus 9's from 2 different best buys. both were December builds. One looked like yours when it booted; it looked really bad IMO. My other one wasnt nearly as bad, there was some bleed in a few spots, mostly upper right, but there was no significant color shift. i returned the bad one. so, you can do better, but its all luck of the draw. depends if it's worth your effort and time and how noticeable it is in normal usage.
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A couple weeks ago i bought 2 nexus 9's from 2 different best buys. both were December builds. One looked like yours when it booted; it looked really bad IMO. My other one wasnt nearly as bad, there was some bleed in a few spots, mostly upper right, but there was no significant color shift. i returned the bad one. so, you can do better, but its all luck of the draw. depends if it's worth your effort and time and how noticeable it is in normal usage.
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During the past two days, after my work, I went to Best Buy store that I got my Nexus 9 from...the first day I opened 3 Nexus 9s all with HT4C serial numbers and 2 of them had awful light bleeds and the third one had bad volume buttons...I ended up with bringing the third one to see if I can deal with the buttons. However,the buttons were so bad and I also saw that this one also has the same color shift but small light bleeds...
Today I went back to BestBuy and asked them to change it again. They give me another HT4C and I checked it over there, the built quality and volume buttons are great and small light bleed...but when I got home I saw that this one still has the color shift problem...
I think all of the high res LCD panels have this problem, because I put my N9 beside my friends iPad mini 2 and surprisingly saw that the iPad has also exactly the same color shift on black screen in Max brightness...So, I think I should deal with it....
BTW, I also called google and they said some light bleed and color shift is normal and probably any replacement device I get is going to have these issues (they didn't call it a issue though and just said ..are going to be like that).
So my question is, could you please take a photo from you N9 in a black screen in Max brightness to I see how it looks?
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During the past two days, after my work, I went to Best Buy store that I got my Nexus 9 from...the first day I opened 3 Nexus 9s all with HT4C serial numbers and 2 of them had awful light bleeds and the third one had bad volume buttons...I ended up with bringing the third one to see if I can deal with the buttons. However,the buttons were so bad and I also saw that this one also has the same color shift but small light bleeds...
Today I went back to BestBuy and asked them to change it again. They give me another HT4C and I checked it over there, the built quality and volume buttons are great and small light bleed...but when I got home I saw that this one still has the color shift problem...
I think all of the high res LCD panels have this problem, because I put my N9 beside my friends iPad mini 2 and surprisingly saw that the iPad has also exactly the same color shift on black screen in Max brightness...So, I think I should deal with it....
BTW, I also called google and they said some light bleed and color shift is normal and probably any replacement device I get is going to have these issues (they didn't call it a issue though and just said ..are going to be like that).
So my question is, could you please take a photo from you N9 in a black screen in Max brightness to I see how it looks?
Thanks.
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You're fretting over nothing. No one uses their device with a black screen with max brightness. Besides, it's an lcd screen, it will never be jet black in that condition.
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Here it is.
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Thanks.
OK, here is how my story ended yesterday ?, during the past days I swiped 7 nexus 9 tablets from 2 different Best Buy stores! Sounds crazy? But all of them had problems...three of them as I posted here had severe LCD light bleed, the other one had volume bottun problem and two of them had soft back cover problem (!), that was so funny even the best buy costumer service couldn't believe the back panel could be like that when we opened the box!...anyways...finally O got one yesterday (the last one in their store, lol) and thank to god, it has min light bleed...volume buttons are OK and the back cover as far as I checked is fine...some part of the right top of it seem to be soft again but its negligible and since I want to put it in a case I will never notice that...fare enough I think for the money I paid and the fact that got sth that at least looks to be not full of faults...
Here is a photo from its screen, in max brightness...thanks again.
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You're fretting over nothing. No one uses their device with a black screen with max brightness. Besides, it's an lcd screen, it will never be jet black in that condition.
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I know and agree, but when sth has problem and you know that it should not be like that, then I think it is not fretting over nothing...I love nexus..and this is why I swiped 7 N9s to get one without these problems...thanks
When I first got my Nexus 9, I looked very carefully for the light bleeding as I heard it was really common on these devices. And to be quite fair, mine had a lot when you ramp up to max screens brightness (especially on the bottom left corner). But after several months of use, I hardly see it now as it's due to myself not always nitpicking at it. You will eventually grow accustomed to it so in the end, it'll definitely fade into the background of your device
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When I first got my Nexus 9, I looked very carefully for the light bleeding as I heard it was really common on these devices. And to be quite fair, mine had a lot when you ramp up to max screens brightness (especially on the bottom left corner). But after several months of use, I hardly see it now as it's due to myself not always nitpicking at it. You will eventually grow accustomed to it so in the end, it'll definitely fade into the background of your device
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The first one I got from Amazon, a early build white 16gb had really bad bleed and the buttons were flush. They sent a replacement with a later build date and it has MUCH less bleed and great buttons. I was fortunate I assume.
I have one of the same models you have I bought from best buy yesterday. I'm really happy with mine. I have no perceivable bleed and the build quality is excellent. The back of the device has no flex. Its much better than the floor model in the store for sure.
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