http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
By this article it looks like HTC is taking efforts to update our phone to 8773 Tango, well better anything than nothing, what i am hoping is to finally get some changes in bootloader after instaling this update
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http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
By this article it looks like HTC is taking efforts to update our phone to 8773 Tango, well better anything than nothing, what i am hoping is to finally get some changes in bootloader after instaling this update
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It is possible that this update needs to proceed before upgrading to 7.8? Seeing that ATT failed at life by not pushing the Tango update to its customers -or any update, HTC could be picking up the slack here with this. 7.8 has NOT been announced yet...so that is probably why they have not introduced it yet on their website.
All this is opinionated though...I would hope that HTC pushes out 7.8 to the Titans...just saying, their are more Titan 1 owners than Titan 2's. There would be a lot of angry folks out there if they didn't.
OR this could be another LG kind of like thing. But I highly doubt that seeing HTC pushed out many WP's during its lifetime.
Let's wait and see what happens. If it turns out that they are only pushing out Tango... I guess it'll be time to bring out the pitchforks.
hehe i just wonder if people from USA can check if the update exist, since i am in europe region and thats the problem, i mailed HTC and they said that in some regions Microsoft pushed update, HTC is just anouncer the one that is pushing update is Microsoft, i just apel on som USA folks with stock cingular rom on 7740 with at&t titan to check via Zune for update. THX
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hehe i just wonder if people from USA can check if the update exist, since i am in europe region and thats the problem, i mailed HTC and they said that in some regions Microsoft pushed update, HTC is just anouncer the one that is pushing update is Microsoft, i just apel on som USA folks with stock cingular rom on 7740 with at&t titan to check via Zune for update. THX
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I am in Dallas Texas and contacted AT&T yesterday regarding this update and they told me to contact HTC, HTC said to contact AT&T. Both contact eforts were through email or online chat. I just had my phone replaced under warranty and have the service groups phone number due to issues I am having. I will contact them via phone and ask the same questions.
Nothing comes up in Zune for the update.
Definately a dissapointment if nothing happens. I want and need the first update and then of course 7.8 update.
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I am in Dallas Texas and contacted AT&T yesterday regarding this update and they told me to contact HTC, HTC said to contact AT&T. Both contact eforts were through email or online chat. I just had my phone replaced under warranty and have the service groups phone number due to issues I am having. I will contact them via phone and ask the same questions.
Nothing comes up in Zune for the update.
Definately a dissapointment if nothing happens. I want and need the first update and then of course 7.8 update.
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This is what happens when you contact customer support. No one knows what the hell is going on half the time, especially petty customer support people -like you talked to. The customer support side is the LAST to know about important information. It's sad, but true.
I guarantee you that I had the same exact thing happen to me when I was trying to find out if Tango was going to be pushed out to our phones. I was told to contact HTC by ATT and vice versa. Same old blah blah. It was a never ending cycle that just made me angry even more. Word of advice: don't bother contacting them unless you have an issue with your phone. Nothing but lies and workarounds by uninformed customer support people.
Anyway, just sit tight for the real information...it's pretty much all you can do right now.
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This is what happens when you contact customer support. No one knows what the hell is going on half the time, especially petty customer support people -like you talked to. The customer support side is the LAST to know about important information. It's sad, but true.
I guarantee you that I had the same exact thing happen to me when I was trying to find out if Tango was going to be pushed out to our phones. I was told to contact HTC by ATT and vice versa. Same old blah blah. It was a never ending cycle that just made me angry even more. Word of advice: don't bother contacting them unless you have an issue with your phone. Nothing but lies and workarounds by uninformed customer support people.
Anyway, just sit tight for the real information...it's pretty much all you can do right now.
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Wait and Wait and wait some more... spoke to customer service today via the phone and it was less than productive. I had to take her to HTC's webpage where HTC talks about the update. Left it for her to chase and call me back. Called while I was in the shower and they said HTC wanted to push the update to my phone but couldn't because there was no release date on the update, the next best option was for me to remove Zune and reinstall it and then check for an update. Did that and nothing.
Frustrated... my thinking is we won't get any satisfaction. Not sure what to do at this point. Phone works with the exception of the keybard issue that drives us all nuts and then the call quality.
I have had two Tilt phones, a Fuze and even though I have one Titan, I warrantied it out about 5 times now and coninually request the same phone but beginning to doubt my reasoning. It may be time for a new carrier and a different phone manufacturer. I've been a customer of AT&T since cell phones first came out (late 70's early 80's?) and a customer of HTC's for maybe 5 years. Which means nothing.
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http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-titan-att/software-updates
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I realize this is aggravating for many and I too had AT&T and own two Titan I. We're now with Straight Talk (AT&T Network). My device is Interop/Developer Unlocked so I update the "XDA" way; my wife's device remains like all of yours...from 7720 to 8773 can be done in increments via Cab Sender. It doesn't matter what device you're using; this is simply the Operating System itself. The following link will get y'all started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736982
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Wait and Wait and wait some more... spoke to customer service today via the phone and it was less than productive. I had to take her to HTC's webpage where HTC talks about the update. Left it for her to chase and call me back. Called while I was in the shower and they said HTC wanted to push the update to my phone but couldn't because there was no release date on the update, the next best option was for me to remove Zune and reinstall it and then check for an update. Did that and nothing.
Frustrated... my thinking is we won't get any satisfaction. Not sure what to do at this point. Phone works with the exception of the keybard issue that drives us all nuts and then the call quality.
I have had two Tilt phones, a Fuze and even though I have one Titan, I warrantied it out about 5 times now and coninually request the same phone but beginning to doubt my reasoning. It may be time for a new carrier and a different phone manufacturer. I've been a customer of AT&T since cell phones first came out (late 70's early 80's?) and a customer of HTC's for maybe 5 years. Which means nothing.
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Yes exactly...this is what you are gonna get every time. HTC doesn't know what is going on because ATT was "supposed" to push out the updates..but didn't. -In fact ATT failed at pushing out the Tango update to about 85% of their phones. I think HTC only handles firmware and bootloader updates as ATT handles the OS updates. Updating your phone through the cab sender will fix the keyboard problem. As for the call quality, this is not going to get fixed unless they push out another radio firmware -which they haven't and probably never will.
Anyway, be patient. I am sure 7.8 will be announced soon by either MS or HTC/ATT. Everybody on ATT feels your frustration...and I'm sure ATT loses quite a few sales with this. But remember, in spite of our frustration, the company will never change its standards with this. Every carriers goal is to make $$ and updating customer phones does provide this for them. It however may provide customer satisfaction, but we all know ATT doesn't care about this at all. They would much rather you go buy a new phone to better suit your needs. It's plain and simple capitalism in your hands.
I too have thought about switching carriers before, unfortunately there are perks to having ATT than any other carriers. Especially in Texas...Example, I currently live in San Antonio, but I used to live in a small rural Texas town where some of my family still reside. This town and the surrounding towns only have small radio towers that power only ATT radio frequencies. Getting service from other carriers such as Verizon or Sprint which operate CDMA frequencies is next to impossible. I'm sure I would be able to get 2g bands if I had T-Mobile...but it is something I don't want to risk. Well anyway...I'm sure I don't have to go on with the example as you are from Texas also.
Another perk is the device lineup compared the other carriers. I'm sure you can relate to this also....
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Yes exactly...this is what you are gonna get every time. HTC doesn't know what is going on because ATT was "supposed" to push out the updates..but didn't. -In fact ATT failed at pushing out the Tango update to about 85% of their phones. I think HTC only handles firmware and bootloader updates as ATT handles the OS updates. Updating your phone through the cab sender will fix the keyboard problem. As for the call quality, this is not going to get fixed unless they push out another radio firmware -which they haven't and probably never will.
Anyway, be patient. I am sure 7.8 will be announced soon by either MS or HTC/ATT. Everybody on ATT feels your frustration...and I'm sure ATT loses quite a few sales with this. But remember, in spite of our frustration, the company will never change its standards with this. Every carriers goal is to make $$ and updating customer phones does provide this for them. It however may provide customer satisfaction, but we all know ATT doesn't care about this at all. They would much rather you go buy a new phone to better suit your needs. It's plain and simple capitalism in your hands.
I too have thought about switching carriers before, unfortunately there are perks to having ATT than any other carriers. Especially in Texas...Example, I currently live in San Antonio, but I used to live in a small rural Texas town where some of my family still reside. This town and the surrounding towns only have small radio towers that power only ATT radio frequencies. Getting service from other carriers such as Verizon or Sprint which operate CDMA frequencies is next to impossible. I'm sure I would be able to get 2g bands if I had T-Mobile...but it is something I don't want to risk. Well anyway...I'm sure I don't have to go on with the example as you are from Texas also.
Another perk is the device lineup compared the other carriers. I'm sure you can relate to this also....
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Point well taken and I have thought about that. I am just generally honked off at the lack of customer service for someone with the tenure I have.
I have a thought... Like most owners of Titan phones, we have had them about a year maybe less. For me it will be a year sometime in December. Like most, I signed a two-year contract.
My thought is this, that contract (I am sure I can find it laying around somewhere and read it... for the first time) surely states what we are expected to do and what they are expected to do. If we all bought phones that AT&T no longer wants to support due to the OS being replaced (WP 8.xx) then they can replace my phone with a phone that is current in technology. My grounds for this would be, it is obvious that the updates to the OS have been available to other WindowsPhone devices but somehow AT&T has decided to ignore this release for some reason or another. Not sure if AT&T rolled these updates out to other phone but if they didn't, then this argument would be even stronger.
If I were to cancel my contract today, AT&T would enforce the penalty or charge back or whatever you want to call it. However, we have phones that are not up to date according to the current release available for the WP7.xx platform. This is flat wrong and may be a pursuable argument.
Thoughts????
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I have a thought... Like most owners of Titan phones, we have had them about a year maybe less. For me it will be a year sometime in December. Like most, I signed a two-year contract.
My thought is this, that contract (I am sure I can find it laying around somewhere and read it... for the first time) surely states what we are expected to do and what they are expected to do. If we all bought phones that AT&T no longer wants to support due to the OS being replaced (WP 8.xx) then they can replace my phone with a phone that is current in technology. My grounds for this would be, it is obvious that the updates to the OS have been available to other WindowsPhone devices but somehow AT&T has decided to ignore this release for some reason or another. Not sure if AT&T rolled these updates out to other phone but if they didn't, then this argument would be even stronger.
If I were to cancel my contract today, AT&T would enforce the penalty or charge back or whatever you want to call it. However, we have phones that are not up to date according to the current release available for the WP7.xx platform. This is flat wrong and may be a pursuable argument.
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It is possible that this argument could be relevant...however, you may have to look at it from another standpoint that would make your argument have flaws. For instance, our devices are not the only devices that are not updated to current technology. -Meaning Android users that are still on Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS...etc could argue the same thing. I just want to point out that Android users have it slightly worse than us at this point, in which updates are "rarely" seen on these type of phones. Updates are pushed out from the OEMs to the carriers, but still the carriers refuse to forward the updates to the phones. I remember reading an article about Android phones and updates on a random tech site just recently. Basically it stated that updates to these types of phones on the US carriers are "very" limited and rare. Oh look I found the article!
http://news.discovery.com/tech/android-ice-cream-sandwich-jelly-bean-updates-121013.html
So with that said, I'm sure that if you tried to cancel your contract with them and enforced your argument you stated here, you will still be entitled to the penalty of canceling the contract. This maybe a different argument but I have seen where carriers have made people still pay the penalty charges even if a person has to cancel the contract due to legal/personal reasons (death, going out of the country, identity theft, etc). If I could give an analogy to contracts on phone carriers, they would be like "student loans." -Both entity's motto suggests "somebody has to pay for something."
Now going back on topic, if by some miracle ATT gave into this argument, I would be overwhelmingly surprised because millions of customers could do the same exact thing you wanted to do. Contracts with carriers are carefully worded to where loopholes like this can't happen.
Anyway, if you happen to try this argument of yours and it works, let me know. I would be right behind you on this! As a tech enthusiast, I am always wanting more -in terms of current technology. I consider my phone to be another piece of technology that I've personalized to enhance my own technology experiences. Most people who own phones, would have another viewpoint -which is basically just a "communication device." Since I've been on ATT ever since they merged with Cingular, I know abandoned updates on phones, such as in our situation, is extremely frustrating. A typical user who only uses the phone for means of communication would probably not even acknowledge that phones "have updates" that enhance the user experience. But then again, that is why I am here on XDA -to better myself with this. Ever since Windows Mobile 5, I've learned that if you want to enhance your experience with these devices this is the place to be. Over the years on this forum, I've learned that getting what you want and need for your phone is easier than it looks.
Anyway, I think this post is long enough. lol. If anybody else wants to chime in and explain some further reasoning of why this argument would not work...then be my guest. Till next time....
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So I recieved my XV6800 replacement after I bricked the last one....hehe
Today I got a computer phone call asking for a survey of my experience.
I rated it as a 1. It then asked me to record my explanation on what went wrong and how they can improve. I told the recording that Verizon is crippling my phone by holding back Features and Fixes for bugs in the software due to their greedy corporate hack jobs. I also said that I wish I could cancel my contracts and move to Sprint or Alltel bc they want to provide the best experience possible. HAHA
Now supposedly a customer service manager is going to contact me to discuss further the issues I am having!
TAKE THAT VERIZON GIVE ME MY UPDATES!
Let us know what they say if the do call you. It would be interesting to hear.
I know I can't wait!
what does alltel and sprint give you that verizon doesnt? just curious because im a on alltel
It is all subjective based. Primary reason to most is updates releasing REV A. Altell started with Win Mo 5 and not six. I believe the still have the GPS locked atleast the local Altell store said they do. Go to Sprint enjoy the upgarde and horrible Customer service. I will deal with hacking my phone to get what I want if good Customer Service and network coverage comes with. A co worker had 3months of hell with that company over her auot pay and Mogul issues. She now is wth the big V and a 6800.
Haha I agree with you I like verizon's service(except I would prefer a SIM card and the GSM network) but if we give our great customer service enough hell we can get that new Verizon update faster! Call in and complain!
I'm with Sprint, and they've been pretty nice to me. Not a single problem. But then again I have Sprint Business as opposed to Sprint Personal.(or wtv it's called)
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Haha I agree with you I like verizon's service(except I would prefer a SIM card and the GSM network) but if we give our great customer service enough hell we can get that new Verizon update faster! Call in and complain!
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I have called Verizon and voiced my displeasure with at minmum not having released a rom update to enable Rev A. I got the 6800 because of Rev A option over the I-760. Almost all of their PDA phones don't offer Rev A so why not be able to offer it to folks on one phone atleast. As for the GPS I have also mentioned many of us spend 30-45 a month for data so why do you need another $9.99.
When I spoke to a Verizon CS rep a few weeks ago, I mentioned also that I was looking for the REV A speeds and wasn't interested in GPS since I already use a third-party program on the XV-6800 (IGuidance with a M5+ reciever).
The rep didn't seem to like my GPS comment esp when I mentioned that I wasn't going to be paying 9.99 for their version.
I am curious just how many people after hearing the reports that the GS2 woun't be available in the US or Canada until Sept/Oct are seriously considering a switch to another device or planning to use the delay to look for something better that won't have have hardware that is 6 months out of date due to a long delay from final production to retail.
With a 2 GHz chip from Samsung, the Tegra 3 and the iFail 5 all rumored for a September-January launch the GS2 is competing with some serious hardware that frankly it won't be on par with this winter for the NA market which is their largest market.
I feel like this is a complete failure on Samsung's part and they should be ensuring that the NA carriers aren't allowed to delay the launch of this device past May. I don't see how delaying this device until Q3 won't destroy their sales. Even if a large portion of their customers don't decided to just buy another device that has near equal or better specs and is available before Q3 I don't see how they will keep customers from waiting to the next generation of devices that will only be 1-2 months away. I know if I have to wait until Q3 and HTC or Motorola announces a Tegra 3 device with 10x the power of Atrix or 2X devices then then I can wait another month or two and get that instead of finally getting the GS2 knowing it is already outdated or will be in the next couple months at best.
Maybe if we get enough people here to make it clear to Samsung that they will most likely be buying a different device for one reason or another due to such a delayed release they will put some pressure on the carriers to not mess around with the device and just release it how it was meant to be and not delayed 6 months so they can load it up with bloat ware no one wanted to begin with.
I know I will be waiting a little longer before buying something else since I don't feel the Atrix or 2X are on the same level as the GS2 but with another 6 months of delays I can be pretty sure something will come along and knock the GS2 off it's pedestal and without a insane delay to their top market for delivering the device and when that day comes and it will Samsung will have officially lost another customer.
So what about everyone else, who feels if this release date is valid for the GS2 that they have lost a customer. Whether it be today or 6 months from now?
I feel slightly the same way, but if the rumors about late Q2/early Q3 are correct, we're looking at, more realistically, June-July.
The original Galaxy S wasn't released until around July-Sept for US carriers, but the European variants were also later, compared to the dates of the Galaxy S 2
Since GS Original was released in UK in June (instead of May for GS2) and the US version was September, it might make sense that we're looking at June-July (with an unfortunate possibility of August) for US.
I'm willing to wait that long, if they can keep from butchering the device for US carriers.
But the combination of lack of information, a much later release date, and the possibility of a neutered phone is definitely making me rethink my previous position, which was "wait for this damn phone at all costs".
I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and then if their is no offical date for the US then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really I wouldn't have any problem waiting a little longer if they would give us some news at least other than 1 rumor that it may be 6 months behind Europe and therefor 6 month outdated hardware.
But as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
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Yeah I'm starting to get a little fed up with the wait too... Sucks for you guys in the States that you might have to wait till after Canada (yeah that was a shocker that we might actually get tech before you guys lol). I wish that the carriers here and the carriers there would just shut the f**k up take it and just release it already without the bloat. Let the bloat be optional download content if people actually frakin' want it.
I see this slowly becoming a rage thread... I like it... I'm starting to get sick of Samsung ignoring my attempts to contact them just because they don't want to make an announcement yet. More companies need to realize that there is a "Power User" segment out there that wants quick access to new tech. They need to put better methods of getting this out to them as well. Even if it means Samsung goes old school and skips carriers and sells direct. Yeah it would mean checking with both Samsung and your carrier of choice to make sure the support is there, but if you consider yourself one of these "Power Users" you should be doing that anyways.
Will I keep waiting for this phone? Yeah probably because I've been waiting for it since the initial announcement that there was going to be a GS2 back in December... The next question would be is my patience growing thin? Let's just say one bad step on the ice and it just might break
Yeah, I can't really blame Samsung since they've taken good care of Europe as far as this phone's release is concerned. (I'm much happier others get to enjoy it soon, rather than everyone having to wait).
It's just the power of the carriers in the US that really screws over the customers. There isn't a single change that is made to any phone, of any company, by the carriers that is beneficial to anyone.
It's just so ridiculous that you have to wait longer than is necessary, so they can fill the phone with purely useless software and modifications that just get in the way of the design intended by Samsung. And it's all purely for profit for the carrier.
I guess that's Greed for you. Instead of all the extra data plans raking in cash monthly for the carriers, they go well beyond that and squeeze every ounce of phone real estate with what is essentially more annoying advertising.
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I have given up on my wait for this phone at all cost stance already, I am currently in the I will wait until another comparable device lands on Verizon/AT&T (Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...) and if their is no offical date for the US by that time then Samsung can say goodbye to my $$.
Really as it stands with no information from Samsung even June seems like a push to wait for if I can find another device before then. If I KNEW I would have the device in hand in June I could probably suck it up but having to sit here holding my breath that it will be June and not September or god forbid October if the release is Sept for Canada and another month for the US ... yeah that is just hard to swallow and I am just waiting for something else to come out.
If Samsung really wants to keep the US market waiting they need to give us an official date at least. Leaving everyone with this anxious feeling of "What is happening when will I be able to get it? Should I keep waiting or just forget about it? Is it even going to be worth the wait when it finally gets here considering the delay?" is just going to cause customers to move on from this device.
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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(Why does that crap heap T-Mobile get the sensation!?!? I want a carrier that actually has coverage and unless your driving down the highway T-Mobile has no service...)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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Finally jealous now that we have something you don't eh? And if we have our way again, we'll be the first to get the SGSII too. I guess being with this "crap heap" carrier does have its perks after all.
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Not for long though.. Once AT&T takes over.. thats it!
xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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Please state that this comment is a personal opinion/experience.
I have full coverage with T-Mobile everywhere I go, work, home and never had a single dropped call thus far(personal experience) YMMV
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I have never used T-Mobile. I heard some good things about pricing and call quality and such so I checked them out and based on their map in my area I have 3G coverage along the highway, in the middle of town and no signal what so ever everywhere else. I have nothing against T-Mobile really other than their coverage sucks in my area and that is really the only thing i care about in a carrier... well that and giving me an OS update in a timely manner.
Yeah, we will probably have a much longer wait as the US carriers take their time and **** up the design of the phone like they all did on the first Galaxy go around.
Here comes 4 or 5 compromised versions of the new Galaxy SII all of them lacking something that the others have, but all of them filled to the flipping brim with crap ware that doesn't do God Damn thing but annoy the hell out of you. Asshole US carriers, everyone of them sucks.
Just give me the phone like it is designed, and don't attempt to dazzle me with your bull ****.
i agree with all the complaints i've read in this thread. i'd like to see a more solid release date for the US as well besides Q3. looking at the release dates, Q3 reads like August for the US at the earliest.
i'm thinking i'm going to wait until late May/mid June in hopes for a more solid release date. but if there isn't one by then, i will likely get an import for AT&T after making sure it's completely compatible with their network. at that point i'll be able to afford dropping $600-$700 for it unlocked.
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xd, im actually pretty excited, in the past ive always ordered phones from the uk, and been able to brag and show off my power phone, while everyone else was using outdated technology. now ill have till Q3 to show off my galaxy s2, while everyone else will be using single core processors, still waiting to be updated to 2.2 (because thats how we roll in the US!)
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I'm thinking about going this route. Did you have to do anything special to get the phone to work, or did you just throw in your ATT sim card?
Just add the ATT (or Straight talk) Sim and you're good.
For a change I actually can't complain in canada. Pickrd mine up on launch yesterday
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Quick question guys,
I just rang my local T-Mobile store to see what their pricing is going to be on the SGS2 and i was told they still have no idea... I have a contract with them that i'm using in my SGS2 i picked up from Phones 4 u last week. I wanted it sooner rather than later so i could get a good idea of the phones performance and still have the option to return within the 14 days if i wasn't happy or if T-Mobile can do me a better deal.
the guy on the phone said that he'd heard a lot of Phones 4 u's SGS2's have been returned due to issues with the device shutting down after a couple of days usage, becoming near inopperable... When i told him i'd had no such issues, he told me that it was because i'd only had mine since the 27th.... i told him that as far as i was aware it was only available from the 26th at the earliest...
Anyways, this seems like dirty tactics to me, has anyone else heard of such reports?? As far as my device is concerned its been flawless, and i'm certain that if this was happening we'd have heard of it on here, if not from bloggers and reviewers...
the phone call really p*ssed me off, almost to the point where i'm thinking of telling t-mobile to stick it and switching to the new Orange sim i have...
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Quick question guys,
I just rang my local T-Mobile store to see what their pricing is going to be on the SGS2 and i was told they still have no idea... I have a contract with them that i'm using in my SGS2 i picked up from Phones 4 u last week. I wanted it sooner rather than later so i could get a good idea of the phones performance and still have the option to return within the 14 days if i wasn't happy or if T-Mobile can do me a better deal.
the guy on the phone said that he'd heard a lot of Phones 4 u's SGS2's have been returned due to issues with the device shutting down after a couple of days usage, becoming near inopperable... When i told him i'd had no such issues, he told me that it was because i'd only had mine since the 27th.... i told him that as far as i was aware it was only available from the 26th at the earliest...
Anyways, this seems like dirty tactics to me, has anyone else heard of such reports?? As far as my device is concerned its been flawless, and i'm certain that if this was happening we'd have heard of it on here, if not from bloggers and reviewers...
the phone call really p*ssed me off, almost to the point where i'm thinking of telling t-mobile to stick it and switching to the new Orange sim i have...
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Sales tactics never cease to amaze me.
The majority of early adopters are on here, and there has not been a single report of malfunction
Jumping from t-mobile to orange, is like choosing between 6 and half a dozen (same company)
Move over to 3 or vodafone and enjoy high speed data (instead of the t-mobile 300 kbps limit)
No issue with mine and I got it on the 26th from p4u.
yeah i couldn't find anything of it, and as i said to him, most early adopters are going to be people like me, who actively use forums and follow pre/reviews etc...
i realise they have/are merging, but i really wanted to get a better deal upgrading, but tbh it was the guys cocky know-it-all attitude that really got me, i'm a huge believer in quality customer service, and when i originally questioned Phones 4 U as to why i should choose them over T-Mobile direct, i actually got a good 'honest' sales pitch, not a cheap-ass shot at the competition...
The T-Mobile guy even tried to tell me that the reason they aren't stocking it yet, and still not for at least a week, is due to the device having faulty software and told me to expect problems with my device over the comming few days...
Hope everyone else is loving their soon to be faulty SGS2's as much as i am!!!
Typical sales bull****. If there really is a common issue, its sure going to get noticed and logged onto forums. Unless its Apple, in which case the laws of fashion step in.
Ok...before I am trying to complaint with the business bureau..I would like to get some feedback or opinion from everyone:
1. Currently I am not with Sprint anymore due to the fact that I am getting tired of slow data on their network and has been filing complaint for the past 6 mos.
2. I did pay the ETF to fulfilled the contract agreement.
3. The question is since Motorola Photon is capable of both GSM quad band and CDMA. Should Sprint unlock the radio band for US user to be able to use on the US GSM network?
This is really struck me hard with their level of technically expertise:
4. I called Sprint tech support today and here is the answers:
a) Your phone can't use the SIM card (this is the answered from the Tech Support Supervisor)... After I told him to look at the only Sprint World phone release last year.. he finally accepting the fact that it is capable on GSM.
b) Then he went on explained to me that even the phone is support GSM it can't support the frequency of T-Mobile or ATT network. What the hell?
c) So just for fun, I asked him what is the frequencies for T-mobile and ATT?
he did gave me the right answers on both network so I asked him are those matching the specification of the Photon. he re-plied "YES".
d) I went on and asking him that if I fulfilled my contract with Sprint. Should I (the owner of the phone) have the right to use any carriers if my phone support it? He said "YES".
e) He then tell me that it's still does not accept SIM card with T-Mobile and ATT because the phone does not support it. I ask him why? he said because the SIM card is different (What??????????), Even after I explained to him that I have been travel to Philippines, Vietnam, and Thailand I have no trouble using their SIM card.
Man .. at that point after holding on for almost 1 hour, I know the conversation getting no where. I felt like I am talking to and "idi****t".
So now, just for the fun of it I am gonna see if I get them to unlock the Radio Band for US GSM through the "Law" in US.
Any opinions would appreciated.
Thanks....It was frustrated with Sprint tech support during the call, but it's something that make me laugh real hard afterward.
you would be a hero if you were able to get it unlocked for carriers within the US. That being said, I suspect your real issue (and litigant) would be Motorola who sells the photon GSM locked for the US.
you bought a world phone, im sure there is some tiny print somewhere at some point that says its locked for some reason
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you bought a world phone, im sure there is some tiny print somewhere at some point that says its locked for some reason
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It could be...but I found there are nothing in the 2 years agreement that I signed up for mentioned anything about it.
Secondly, It's not that I cancelled the contract and failed to pay their ETF.
I did paid my ETF as agreed in the contract.
This does mean I owned that particular phone.
T-Mobile or ATT always unlocked you phone after contract is over (for ATT is if you are with them for 6 mos.. call in and they will provide the unlock code).
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you would be a hero if you were able to get it unlocked for carriers within the US. That being said, I suspect your real issue (and litigant) would be Motorola who sells the photon GSM locked for the US.
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Yes, I can see that this is going to motorola ... but they gonna passing the buckets around.
I will attempt to contact Motorola later to see what their answer is gonna be.
I say if the companies won't provide it for us directly, then we should make complaints to the BBB as mentioned above along with the FCC.
- Promoting competition, innovation, and investment in broadband services and facilities;
Does allowing Sprint to lock the GSM on a phone being sold in the US from not working with US GSM Carriers truly accomplish this?
- Supporting the nation’s economy by ensuring an appropriate competitive framework for the unfolding of the communications revolution;
I don't believe that allowing our purchased handset to not be usable on other carriers while its' technically possible for it to do so supports this either. It's actually an anti-competitive framework that encourages lock-in and tries to block consumers from having choice at the technical level.
It'd be understandable if the Photon was a CDMA only phone, but it's capable of GSM at frequencies that other carriers can use. Sprint/Motorola chose to stop us from being able to switch carriers due to price deterrence by having to purchase a new telephone.
- Encouraging the highest and best use of spectrum domestically and internationally;
My phone can't use any spectrum deigned for GSM use in the US. Encourage Sprint/Motorola to fix this please.
- Revising media regulations so that new technologies flourish alongside diversity and localism;
Does that mean that you no longer care for the life old technologies that you help enable to flourish?
- Providing leadership in strengthening the defense of the nation’s communications infrastructure.
I don't think that me selling my Photon to a shady character to cover the cost of a new purchase contributes towards that security that hope to foster. In Octavia Butler's "Parable" series, it's common for people to use disposable phones as a means to not be tracked easily and to quickly stay secure personally. Why encourage me to offer someone a high-end disposable phone with all types of awesome abilities when I can keep this phone or be encouraged to give it to a trusted friend once I'm done using it?
http://www.fcc.gov/what-we-do
F-C-C please set us free!
Photon: Let me be me on ATT!
(Honestly, I would jump to T-Mobile instead of them, I can't do so because my phone has been interfered with.)
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Call Motorola today, after frustrating call with Sprint. As soon as I mentioned about SIM Subsidiary Unlock for US GSM, I got transfered to a level II rep.
-The representative understood what I was asking for and he understood that I have my contract fulfilled with Sprint.
-He said that there are no reason why Sprint did not unlock the US GSM band. So he placed a 3 ways call to Sprint CSR. Again, Idio***t Sprint CSR said that the phone doesn't have the SIM card even though it's the World Phone and it can only be used in CDMA mode. Again I got frustrated and told the CSR that Motorola Photon operated on quad band GSM and CDMA. I have paid my ETF and I owned the phone, it does not belong to Sprint anymore and no one can tell which carrier should I use or locking me from using other and It's my property. I told her that I got the Motorola Representative online and would happy to talk to her. Motorola rep jump in and explained to her that it should work on GSM abroad and US. US carriers does operated on the same frequencies that described in Photon's specification. He asked the CSR if I am still in contract with Sprint? and Sprint CSR replied "NO". He asked did I pay my ETF and fulfilled my contract? She said "YES". He then tell her there should be no reason for Sprint not to provide the SIM Subsidiary unlock code for US GSM. He said there is no reason that I could not take my Photon to any CDMA or GSM provider US and Globally if the network supported the frequencies of the phone and use it. Here is the fun part: Sprint CSR then replied "His account no longer active and therefore I could not provide the unlock code" ??? huh ???
and yet my account with them still active but they could not find my phone? I then asked Sprint CSR: do you know what is the SIM Subsidiary unlock code is? and please do not mistaken with the MSL number. At this point both I and the Motorola Rep got tired. She then kept repeating that the phone is not active she can't do it.
I got frustrated, and said this "If I do not get this issue resolve by either Sprint or Motorola, I will complaint to BBB and FCC on both Sprint and Motorola". Sprint CSR said go ahead if I wanted to. Both I and Motorola say goodbye to her.
Motorola Rep, however understood what I am asking. He promised to call me back tomorrow with a solution, but first he needs to research with the technical team and higher management on the matter.
Well.. in my opinion, it's true that the SIM Subsidiary unlock code is the carriers responsibility. Phone Manufacture normally provided these with the phone. It's the carrier responsible to unlock the phone based on the contract agreement. I have experienced with AT&T and T-Mobile when asking for unlock code. They should provided to you when the contract is over or earlier depends on how good you are as customer to them.
Let wait and see if Motorola came up with something..If not I will file the complaint with BBB and FCC.
Even that now I don't use Photon (just got the huge Galaxy Note with AT&T) .. I am still pursuing this matter. No one can tell me what to do with thing that I owned as long as I don't use them illegally. hmmm
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Call Motorola today, after frustrating call with Sprint. As soon as I mentioned about SIM Subsidiary Unlock for US GSM, I got transfered to a level II rep.
-The representative understood what I was asking for and he understood that I have my contract fulfilled with Sprint.
-He said that there are no reason why Sprint did not unlock the US GSM band. So he placed a 3 ways call to Sprint CSR. Again, Idio***t Sprint CSR said that the phone doesn't have the SIM card even though it's the World Phone and it can only be used in CDMA mode. Again I got frustrated and told the CSR that Motorola Photon operated on quad band GSM and CDMA. I have paid my ETF and I owned the phone, it does not belong to Sprint anymore and no one can tell which carrier should I use or locking me from using other and It's my property. I told her that I got the Motorola Representative online and would happy to talk to her. Motorola rep jump in and explained to her that it should work on GSM abroad and US. US carriers does operated on the same frequencies that described in Photon's specification. He asked the CSR if I am still in contract with Sprint? and Sprint CSR replied "NO". He asked did I pay my ETF and fulfilled my contract? She said "YES". He then tell her there should be no reason for Sprint not to provide the SIM Subsidiary unlock code for US GSM. He said there is no reason that I could not take my Photon to any CDMA or GSM provider US and Globally if the network supported the frequencies of the phone and use it. Here is the fun part: Sprint CSR then replied "His account no longer active and therefore I could not provide the unlock code" ??? huh ???
and yet my account with them still active but they could not find my phone? I then asked Sprint CSR: do you know what is the SIM Subsidiary unlock code is? and please do not mistaken with the MSL number. At this point both I and the Motorola Rep got tired. She then kept repeating that the phone is not active she can't do it.
I got frustrated, and said this "If I do not get this issue resolve by either Sprint or Motorola, I will complaint to BBB and FCC on both Sprint and Motorola". Sprint CSR said go ahead if I wanted to. Both I and Motorola say goodbye to her.
Motorola Rep, however understood what I am asking. He promised to call me back tomorrow with a solution, but first he needs to research with the technical team and higher management on the matter.
Well.. in my opinion, it's true that the SIM Subsidiary unlock code is the carriers responsibility. Phone Manufacture normally provided these with the phone. It's the carrier responsible to unlock the phone based on the contract agreement. I have experienced with AT&T and T-Mobile when asking for unlock code. They should provided to you when the contract is over or earlier depends on how good you are as customer to them.
Let wait and see if Motorola came up with something..If not I will file the complaint with BBB and FCC.
Even that now I don't use Photon (just got the huge Galaxy Note with AT&T) .. I am still pursuing this matter. No one can tell me what to do with thing that I owned as long as I don't use them illegally. hmmm
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You should have asked to speak to a manager while you had the rep on the phone. Btw was the rep you spoke with American or foreign to america in accent? No offence to foreign call centers but they are way to close to their sprint handbook. I have dealt with sprint several times and every time I called except twice I got an American who was extremely helpful and have even done things for me without question. The two times I got a foreign call center, I was placed on hold several times, spoke to several different people about my issue and then finally after nearly a 30 minute call they finally told me if I could pay ahead on a zero balance for future billing. Called back a few days later just to verify my answer and got an American first try and without hesitation new the answer and even said I could set up autopay to exceed the next months bill and whatever remaining balance I had would count as a credit towards the month after that. As with any device or technical question I have american call centers have always given a more straight forward answer without all the bull****.
I used to work for an ATT call center and we had to go to 3 months of training before we could start taking calls and then another 3 months of assisted training once on the phone. We had to learn every device they sold and had to know the entire book or they would not accept us on the floor. It payed very well for a call center so I understand why they would spend so much time making sure we knew what the hell we were talking about. Sometimes you have slackers that someone get through training but I can verify that foreign call centers only have to go through ONE day of training before taking calls and only have ONE superviser per 40+ reps as to American call centers have around 10 supervisors to every 40 reps plus supers have to going to more intense training to better assist customers. They can even provide us with an ATT or T-Mobile unlock code even if the phone is not active.
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Previous call did get to a supervisor and manager with Sprint. No help at all. Second call was 3 ways call with Motorola, Sprint and me. And I am kinda surprised at the second call where the Sprint CSR did not even call a Manager or Supervisor... and she has the nerve tell me go ahead with the complaint to BBB and FCC. Wow, I guessed she did not care. So the Motorola Rep decided to say goodbye to the Sprint CSR so he can get on with my issue. I think he is also frustrated at the Sprint CSR too. Let wait and see how this play out.
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Previous call did get to a supervisor and manager with Sprint. No help at all. Second call was 3 ways call with Motorola, Sprint and me. And I am kinda surprised at the second call where the Sprint CSR did not even call a Manager or Supervisor... and she has the nerve tell me go ahead with the complaint to BBB and FCC. Wow, I guessed she did not care. So the Motorola Rep decided to say goodbye to the Sprint CSR so he can get on with my issue. I think he is also frustrated at the Sprint CSR too. Let wait and see how this play out.
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Ive complained to the FCC and BBB twice in the past year about Sprint and both times Sprint's reply has pretty much been "f**k you".
Sprint in general doesn't care about FCC or BBB complaints.
CSRs definitely do not - since those complaints are not tied back to the CSR and never impact their metrics.
Also, I've never had a CSR volunteer to get a supervisor involved - I've always had to ask. And whenever I hear a canned phrase for the second time, I do ask to speak with a supervisor.
I dont think Sprint cares about much except whether or not your bill is late.
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I dont think Sprint cares about much except whether or not your bill is late.
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Quite true.
I thought the photon was locked in the radio software to ignore the gsm signals from att and t mobile in the usa. The Sim unlock wouldn't really do anything because the software on the phone would still ignore the Sim card because it isn't setup to use the Sim card in the usa. I think you are kinda **** out of luck. There are numerous posts about this issue already and from what i understand it will not work here in the usa with gsm
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I thought the photon was locked in the radio software to ignore the gsm signals from att and t mobile in the usa. The Sim unlock wouldn't really do anything because the software on the phone would still ignore the Sim card because it isn't setup to use the Sim card in the usa. I think you are kinda **** out of luck. There are numerous posts about this issue already and from what i understand it will not work here in the usa with gsm
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I know it doesn't work with GSM band here in the US. My argument is that I am off contract and fully paid for the phone, therefore I should get those GSM US band unlock. It's not a sprint phone... It's my phone and I paid for it.
I agree with you but the gsm is not locked to sprint..its blocked in rom from the us gsm network...this requires an update to the the radio rom firmware....real world it can be done...but sprint and motorolla will fight it every step of the way...make bet the moto rep that backed you will get an ass chewing from moto managment if they here about it...
It this case they look at a firmware update to turn on hardware parts of the phone as a hardware upgrade..
But again real work kdd japans photon is the same hardware as a sprint photon...replace the sprint firmware with kdd firmware (really just the radio firmware)..and your phone would work with us gsm..may not work with sprint but would work us gsm..
But for that you need to know how to upgrade the rom and have the right rom and sprint and moto are not going to tell you
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Have you heard back from Motorola yet?
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Motorola give me the feedback, but it's not good. Generally, I think he got chewed by his higher up. He said he understood that I am gone through, and the only way to get unlock is to have Sprint approval. He explained to me that the lock is in the lower level programming and it is needed to get approved by Motorola. He said really sorry that he could not help more. He have asked me to pursue whatever course it takes to get Sprint authorized.
I felt that this is the first time he step on something like this. Poor guy, he doesn't sound enthusiastic as he did when he first spoke with me.
In any case, I will file the complaint through BBB and see how Sprint response. Heck I don't even need the phone now, and about to list and sell on Ebay.
I just got my Galaxy Note (huge phone) with AT&T and I like it. I think in the past of couple of years , Samsung finally improve their product.
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I just got my Galaxy Note (huge phone) with AT&T and I like it. I think in the past of couple of years , Samsung finally improve their product.
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Do you like it over the Photon?
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Heck I don't even need the phone now, and about to list and sell on Ebay.
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I am looking for a cheap one for my wife. What do you want for it?
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In October 2014, I enthusiastically purchased my Sony Z3v at full price. There is no question in my mind that it was and still is an outstanding device. But this does not excuse the fact that many of us purchased this device with the understanding that Lollipop was imminent by end of year 2014 and simultaneous voice and data would be available shortly thereafter. It doesn't matter if there are hacks available or not. My purchase was predicated on the fact these things were imminent, that Verizon would be enabling and updating these features.
Since then, along with many of you, I have contacted Verizon several times over the last 17 months and each time Verizon representatives have told me to be patient, that the updates were imminent. As a consumer, I had no recourse but to trust what they promised......its not as if I had any options and could sell the device back to Verizon for full value without losing money.
I use my device for work and have suffered loss due to the fact I could not receive data while on calls etc.
This has been such a complete joke. I don't know if a class action suit would even be fruitful. But what I can tell you is that I will never purchase a device or any accessories from Verizon ever again.
So sad.
I completely understand your frustration and sympathize with you on this. Verizon's "policies" makes my blood boil, but only if I associate the device directly with them. (I know, I know... They brand the snot out of everything they sell so you always have their logo to remind you...)
However, I've come to absolutely love this device despite Verizon's broken promises, and actually am now (tonight) buying a second new handset so I may continue to enjoy the Z3V for a few more years to come.
I admit I'm a bit odd; old, set in my ways, don't like change, etc. I went from Droid 1 to iPhone s4 to z3V ever since the Droid came out. But I see handset technology slowing down now. Carriers AND manufacturers are starting to offer less (no SD slots -WTF?!)... I've found a device that suits all my needs and I'm gambling I'll be happy with it for a few years to come. (This thing is twice as powerful as my last laptop and has a 200Gb SD card with a 21MP camera! And a friggin FM radio in it!!)
Granted, you mention a particular need (voice plus simultaneous data), but you knew the handset didn't have that when you bought it and you never really were certain when you did buy it when that feature was supposed to be added. You never got it. Is that a reason to be pissed at the carrier? Yes, most certainly, especially if your livelihood depends partially on it. But the device, well, in my opinion, it's the closest thing to Apple build quality sporting Android that I've seen so far.
My biased, crazy opinion. Afterall, I'm buying a second one to keep in a drawer. LOL!
If I didn't think it would be a total loss, but I'd go grab the Z5/Z5 Premium and go use it on Straight Talk. This is the only way I'd see myself upgrade to a Sony only route.
If I did, I'll buy whatever accessories to keep the phone in top condition since I won't have assurance of a guarantee that I could just warranty my problems if something happened. It's why I'm grateful that having insurance from Verizon on my phone that I could easily get it replaced. :/
Unfortunately the insurance for replacement is "limited time only" at best. I had my handset replaced after I bricked it and it seemed as if it were a close possibility that I might have to settle for something else of "equivalent value". That was 3 or 4months ago. I was super thankful that my replacement looked brand new. I'm pretty particular and I saw no indication that it's a refurb. I can't seem to find a NIB one now.
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Unfortunately the insurance for replacement is "limited time only" at best. I had my handset replaced after I bricked it and it seemed as if it were a close possibility that I might have to settle for something else of "equivalent value". That was 3 or 4months ago. I was super thankful that my replacement looked brand new. I'm pretty particular and I saw no indication that it's a refurb. I can't seem to find a NIB one now.
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Limited time only in regards to how many times I can use it? Or how many more months I can have until it somehow runs out?
OTA on the way
Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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Limited time only in regards to how many times I can use it? Or how many more months I can have until it somehow runs out?
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Limited in the sense that this model is becoming difficult to find in new condition.
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Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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I'm sorry dude, but you have just joined yesterday and this is your one and only post?
You smell funny, so Ima get the big guy to pull yer post (and this one) so we can keep an on topic discussion that doesn't go down this same road yet again.
I'd like to be able to discuss stuff without the thread getting closed down!
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No worries, mate. GREG BRADLEY says you're not a dupe account, so carry on screwing up this thread with your unsubstantiated claim. -Even though such claims draws arguments like maggots on crap. LOL!
Welp, the moderator has spoken.
Anyhow, I wouldn't care so much if it was new or used as long as its in fine, not banged up, and working condition. It's just knowing how long until it would be I can get the most out of the Z3v though...
I feel the same way. Its a great device but Verizon is lame as soon as my contract is up i am moving to TIng. Sony did a nice job of supporting this phone and even offering a way to unlock all the other models of the Z3 but Verizon wants to keep it locked up and then fails to provide the updates themselves. I think i might buy another Z3 (regular gsm one) once I switch though.
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I feel the same way. Its a great device but Verizon is lame as soon as my contract is up i am moving to TIng. Sony did a nice job of supporting this phone and even offering a way to unlock all the other models of the Z3 but Verizon wants to keep it locked up and then fails to provide the updates themselves. I think i might buy another Z3 (regular gsm one) once I switch though.
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I am pleased with my Z3v and will probably use it until the battery starts failing. It would be nice to have an unlocked bootloader but I don't ROM-up phones like I used to and as long as it is rooted and I can use certain root-required apps I like then it is livable.
Unfortunately here in the Nashville, TN area where I live the Verizon network is second to none in quality and coverage, the only viable option if you don't live in an urban area is a Straight Talk phone using the Verizon network. The term "the hills of Tennessee" isn't a glib comment. I have been in situations where friends using other carriers have one or no bars and my Verizon phone had a solid three bars. Also my work occasionally sends me up to southern Kentucky where it is literally a choice between Verizon or nothing. Now there is growing resistance to any new cell towers being erected so it has grown much more difficult for a carrier to improve their network.
I hear ya on that one, Komet1. Verizon is the only carrier that works well in my area too. So this definitely factors into the equation of just how much I can tolerate regarding Verizon's BS policies.
Me as well... Verizon is the only reliable service I can use. So they get my business there by default but that's where I draw the line. So while I am forced to pay monthly for their towers and spectrum I will never buy a phone from them or any accessories from them again. I know it won't make much a difference to them but it's the principle of the matter for me. I can't support their practices in light of my Z3v fiasco with the three Z3v's I have on my account.
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Talked to Verizon rep online she talked to the network team and she said this week that ota updates where deployed this month and should be down by end of month. According to them 12% had received the ota. If this is true we should all have lollipop by end of month. If she was lying I will put up her cell phone number so you can all duke it out with her.
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Anyone seen any evidence of this happening or do we have a troll in our midst?
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Anyone seen any evidence of this happening or do we have a troll in our midst?
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I dunno. He Pmed me a link, but I didn't bother checking it out as I was in a hurry. Guess I'll bite, but I don't hold my breath on any of these leaked reports. I find it just a bit curious that he/she had only one post and by date given, seemed to have registered JUST to post that.
Edit: I just checked the link silentswarm sent me via PM and all it is is a screenshot, supposedly of his phone, with a text from Verizon stating, "Free Verizon Msg: The Xperia update to Lollipop is expected to rollout by the end of February. Thanks for your patience."
That's about as weak as I've seen as far as "proof" this far.
I'll eat my words and apologize to silentswarm if he is found to be correct.
I just checked the Verizon forums, one would think if this was legit they would be on fire but no, all is quiet. I'll calling this one bogus.
silentswarm PMed me after the first post this morning with a link to the same screenie, I just spotted it. Granted it looks real.
He said he was a bit of a lurker, I can relate to that, I've been hanging around Reddit for several years and still don't have an account. I guess it was my lack of trust that Verizon will do anything that makes me suspicious.
Why has no one shared of said image for everyone to view on here? :v
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Why has no one shared of said image for everyone to view on here? :v
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LOL... didn't you know this rumor is TOP SECRET?
Shhhhh! Don't tell a n y b o d y!
heh, never thought about it despite silentswarm's OK. I stop thinking Friday afternoon and don't really start again until Monday morning when I merge into the disaster named I-40 Westbound...here ya go
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I follow the forums pretty often just never needed to create a account cause I had nothing to add. Here is text I received from version after I chatted with network support.
http://postimg.org/image/tuxfyslid
Feel free to share it I don't have enough posts to share links or pictures yet
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I guess that's pretty legit enough being sent through text message. Although this is the first time I ever saw a carrier would send out an update announcement through text.