In AnTuTu this phone scores almost half of what the Nexus 7 scores in GPU test, though it beats it in everything else.
whoamanwtf said:
In AnTuTu this phone scores almost half of what the Nexus 7 scores in GPU test, though it beats it in everything else.
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Not reliable info. Phones can be modded to do well on benchmarks. Wait till we get our goodies and see what happens
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drwario said:
Not reliable info. Phones can be modded to do well on benchmarks. Wait till we get our goodies and see what happens
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Generally the mods affect the IO scores, I'm speaking about only the GPU scores.
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The optimus 4x hd is the closest and most comparable to the optimus since it has essentially the same software and is the closest tegra 3 device to the OG.
Per antutus website, the OG beats the 4x HD in total score and GPU. It loses barely to the N7, but that is likely due to butter and software improvements. Assuming both are on the same software, the OG should perform better.
I believe anandtech said Adreno 320 is the best ARM GPU this year minus the iPad's PowerVR GPUs. It is the top android GPU.
Either way, both are great GPUs, but the S4 Pro has a better CPU.
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Interesting?
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I'll find that interesting once we can disable the throttling on this thing, cause right now it's not scoring very well throttling so often.
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I am not familiar with android os, so i wanted to ask people who have some knowledge behind it a question.
What do you see improving with the thunderbolt when gingerbread gets released?
Do you think the thunderbolt will be able to improve its chances to still stand out against the dual-core phones with the help of 2.3?
I love my thunderbolt, it is my very first Android OS device and i am glad to be an early adopter of the 4g LTE network, i do personally feel that i put myself in a rough position because i chose a phone with a single core. Should i feel this way?
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No, single core is great.
1. Apps must be written to utilize dual core (the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, which is much faster than needed)
2. Any phone you buy will be outdated in terms of current technology within 6 months. (Don't compare to other technology. Compare to apps you want to run. There are no foreseeable apps the thunderbolt can't run well)
Imho, dual core is currently just a gimmick to attract buyers and I don't think it will be necessary to own one for about 2 years.
I've used the attic, compared to thunderbolt you can't even notice a speed difference.
As for the usual bionic/thunderbolt debate. I believe the Ram is more important then dual core ATM. And if the bionic really only has 512, the thunderbolt will do perfectly fine stacked against it.
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the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, aka the same speed as 1ghz dual core
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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i've played with an Atrix before the TB came out. The dual core did nothing for it. My TB is noticeably faster than the Atrix was. Plus ATT 4G service is a joke.
As far as differences between 22 and 23, check this out:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/
Probably not alot to to write home about, but i def like the gingerbread keyboard over the froyo keyboard.
Ive never seen a dual core referred to as the speed of the 2 cores added. Every dual core I've heard of refers to the speed of the individual processors. ie, all the new ones (tegra 2, exynos, evo 3d snapdragon) have 2 cores each at 1 ghz
Leading to the equation:
2 x 1 ghz cores != 1 x 2 ghz core != 2 x 500 mhz cores
You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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Lol, no he meant the quad cores processors coming out like the Tegra 3.
He said quad core not quadrant scores.
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You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
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Totally agree Roger. The real problem with dual core is Android software is not written to take full advantage of both cores. This was evident when I had a chance to play with my friends LG Optimus 2X. FPS was fantastic on nenamark averaging just below 80. All games in the Tegra zone played great. However, when it came to day to day stuff it lagged. For example, sometimes it took two swipes for the screen to register a touch. Web pages with heavy flash had awful load times.
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
and As for Quad Cores and Dual Cores, Im Loving the Battery life they are gonna bring to us. The Point isn't just performance but also low Energy Usage.
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I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Win indeed sir. I'm a VZW employee and can upgrade every 9 months
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Can you imagine the epic tears that will flow for quad core battery issues?
... just sayin'
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
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And while applications might not be specifically written for dual core, the OS is. That alone provides some improvement.
But whatever. Our processor will be fine for quite some time.
And correct, a 1GHz dual core runs at 2x1GHz, not 2x500Mhz
Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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As for the OP, I don't think enough improvements from 2.2-2.3 are going to be done to make it the same as an optimized dual core. Also, I don't think stock HTC Sense 2.3 will have much of a visual difference than stock 2.2 Sense. Once the 2.3 update comes out, I'll probably still stick with a custom ROM that is 2.2 until the 2.3 custom ROM's come out.
What I hope that HTC fixes is the GPS issues. The "fix" that is in the development forum (turning off Google Location Services) has worked wonders for me, but I'm hoping HTC just fixes it in a firmware or software update sometime in the future.
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Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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Gb is reportedly hitting thunderbolt in q2!
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Why the g2x had SO MUCH better benchmark scores now before anyone says I'm *****ing know that I'm not I'm just asking why 2 phones with the same processors have such diff scores the photon NEVER goes over 60 fps in quadrant but the g2x gets like 100+ and out had 1080p video recording like wtf was motorola thinking sprints best motorola phone is average now a data now I'm just asking why cause that's really annoying but honestly this is just a question not *****ing again
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because moto blur takes up more processing power ALSO the the photon has a 1ghz dual core and teh e4gt has a 1.2 ghz dual core. same ram i believe... but honestly until internet speeds are crazy increaded and battery life is maximized idc they all run around the same speed imo.
I think the G2X uses a different cpu/gpu.
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I think the G2X uses a different cpu/gpu.
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No the g2x uses the tegra 2 same thing
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I think it's software Optimization.
Its almost the same spec,and maybe our photon dont use its full power to conserve battery? Like shut down one core or something?
another viewpoint its the drivers.
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Motorola has qHD resolution, so the gpu has to push 25% more pixels.
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Isn't g2x stock vanilla android? That makes a world of difference
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I thought it used hummingbird processor
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No the g2x uses the tegra 2 same thing
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The MoPho runs circles around the POS!
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Gh0zt718 said:
Why the g2x had SO MUCH better benchmark scores now before anyone says I'm *****ing know that I'm not I'm just asking why 2 phones with the same processors have such diff scores the photon NEVER goes over 60 fps in quadrant but the g2x gets like 100+ and out had 1080p video recording like wtf was motorola thinking sprints best motorola phone is average now a data now I'm just asking why cause that's really annoying but honestly this is just a question not *****ing again
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One of the things that throws of the result is the nonstandard resolution of the Photon. This odd screen size requires scaling be used to run most benchmarks full screen. On an unscaled Smartbench run the scores are much higher than scaled and are fairly close to the GSII NVidia.
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No the g2x uses the tegra 2 same thing
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There are three different CPU's used in the GSII (NVidia, Samsung, Qualcomm). The benchmarks vary with the Qualcomm being the bottom of the list.
So idk if there is a dx2 bench mark thread... atleast i couldn't find one. But im curious as to how everyones dx2s preform with different mods/roms installed.
so heres the deal.
post your rom, any mods, and anything else that makes your phone different. then post your benchmark score for different benchmark test.
Pictures are always better =D
I'll be the first to start. and all my information is in my signature =D
Not to spark anything, just want to throw a theory I heard out: it isn't grounded in solid evidence but when Antutu compares your device to others, your overall score is inflated, ever heard that?
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The problem with benchmarks is there is no standard scoring system so scoring is different depending on the tool used
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Here's mine, running CM7 RC1 with beats 5.1 and ICS Themes. I was running mashup before but it was doing some funky stuff so this is stock CM7 build.prop
I might add my screenshot. I got ~3300 on quadrant on stock cm7.2 RC0.
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I might add my screenshot. I got ~3300 on quadrant on stock cm7.2 RC0.
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I got over 5500 on antutu while I was on RC0 but it only happened a couple times.
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Dx2 running CM10a3
I just ran Antutu and Antutu X and got an average from 3 runs of ~8000. I was expecting 4000 from online reviews running GB.
Ok Iam getting 8034 using Antutu + Antutu CPU Master and CM10.
Any antutu review from over a year ago (roughly) will show lower numbers. Around that time frame (forgot exact date) antutu updated it's testing algorithm to include more GPU intensive tests (which nVidia chips were beasts at, a.k.a. Tegra).
This is why you are having higher than "normal" scores.
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Ok Ive switched to Eclipse v2.3 and get a score of 8068 and that is the fastest score yet.
Droid X2 compared to the Droid X
Uzephi said:
Any antutu review from over a year ago (roughly) will show lower numbers. Around that time frame (forgot exact date) antutu updated it's testing algorithm to include more GPU intensive tests (which nVidia chips were beasts at, a.k.a. Tegra). This is why you are having higher than "normal" scores.
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I too am getting 8000+ scores on my X2. I ran Antutu on a Droid X and only got a 4000. X2 is a lot of bang for the buck.
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I too am getting 8000+ scores on my X2. I ran Antutu on a Droid X and only got a 4000. X2 is a lot of bang for the buck.
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Some even say...it has one more core then the X...
Anyone using this? I like it better than Antutu. The only thing my phone doesn't kill it at is the complex 3D. Guess I'll have to start looking into tweaks to get that score up if at all possible. I saw in the comments section on the Play Store that users of several different phones were complaining about low scores in that test.
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Benchmarks aren't very accurate. They run like a normal app so they get limited by the OS in what they can do. A true benchmark would be a separate ROM that only does benchmarking. That way it could use all system resources to test the hardware.
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Anyone using this? I like it better than Antutu. The only thing my phone doesn't kill it at is the complex 3D. Guess I'll have to start looking into tweaks to get that score up if at all possible. I saw in the comments section on the Play Store that users of several different phones were complaining about low scores in that test.
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We're always going to have relatively poor graphics performance due to our 1280x720 screens and last-gen Adreno 220 that was made to handle qHD (0.52 million pixels) not 1280x720 (0.92 million pixels)
scy1192 said:
We're always going to have relatively poor graphics performance due to our 1280x720 screens and last-gen Adreno 220 that was made to handle qHD (0.52 million pixels) not 1280x720 (0.92 million pixels)
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Hmm, never heard of this. Any link to this info?
Yep, my wife's galaxy proclaim gets a higher 3d score simply because it draws like a fifth of the pixels my rezound does lol.
But seriously I've learned to not trust benchmarks, if it's smooth then it's fast enough
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/15/benchmarks-lg-nexus-4-vs-htc-droid-dna/
Anyone else surprised? I thought the difference would be minimal, but the Nexus would be a bit faster due to the smaller resolution and being stock android.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/15/benchmarks-lg-nexus-4-vs-htc-droid-dna/
Anyone else surprised? I thought the difference would be minimal, but the Nexus would be a bit faster due to the smaller resolution and being stock android.
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Wow I thought the n4 would have gotten better. Seems like a smoother device but wow. Good job HTC!
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Nexus 4 has some crazy thermal throttling oddity I thought I read...could be why.
Maybe the DNA's ram is faster? Otherwise, it should be the same exact hardware going in, performance wise (and rom, but I didn't think the rom speed would affect a benchmark).
EDIT: Or it's probably the throttling if that's true...
is there enough differences in 4.1 and 4.2 to where the benchmarks dont take that into account?
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is there enough differences in 4.1 and 4.2 to where the benchmarks dont take that into account?
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I'd say thats doubtful, the OS was not overhauled by any means. It was basically a security patch with a few framework modifications.
htc is really workin hard to make a comeback
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I'd say thats doubtful, the OS was not overhauled by any means. It was basically a security patch with a few framework modifications.
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i thought as much, but i just wanted to play devil's advocate
Does the nexus 4 have 2gb of ram? Because that could explain the difference in scores. I've always been an HTC guy, but honestly, quadrants don't and never will matter. The only way to see how a device really performs is to use it yourself.
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I think the HTD DNA has beefed up graphics to handle that large screen, I'll bet that is a part of the difference ...
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I think the HTD DNA has beefed up graphics to handle that large screen, I'll bet that is a part of the difference ...
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The adreno GPU is a beast without a doubt
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Does the nexus 4 have 2gb of ram? Because that could explain the difference in scores. I've always been an HTC guy, but honestly, quadrants don't and never will matter. The only way to see how a device really performs is to use it yourself.
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Yep 2gb of ram for the Nexus
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I think the HTD DNA has beefed up graphics to handle that large screen, I'll bet that is a part of the difference ...
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Nope, they both have the adreno 320. It is a new beefed up gpu though - twice as fast as the adreno 225 in the GS3 and other dual core s4 processor phones.
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Does the nexus 4 have 2gb of ram? Because that could explain the difference in scores. I've always been an HTC guy, but honestly, quadrants don't and never will matter. The only way to see how a device really performs is to use it yourself.
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They both have 2GB but might not be the same speed - and speed matters more at this point.
Nexus 4 has always benchmarked lower for some reason, it is essentially the same hardware that's inside the optimus G, since the only difference is the O.S may be it is taxing the system a lot more than 4.1, it might not look like much but there is significant difference when it comes to framework on the 4.2, may be it is taxing the system more in the background then 4.1
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They both have 2GB but might not be the same speed - and speed matters more at this point.
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ok
The reason the Nexus 4 scores lower is because it features thermal throttling which reduced the CPU speed when it reaches a certain temperature to maintain battery efficiency. Stick it in a freezer and the benchmark numbers increase. http://androidandme.com/2012/11/sma...hmark-showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-418705
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The reason the Nexus 4 scores lower is because it features thermal throttling which reduced the CPU speed when it reaches a certain temperature to maintain battery efficiency. Stick it in a freezer and the benchmark numbers increase. http://androidandme.com/2012/11/sma...hmark-showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-418705
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Yep. This is the reason. It has been stated on Anandtech. It makes perfect sense. It's all related to both phones using different kernels.
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The reason the Nexus 4 scores lower is because it features thermal throttling which reduced the CPU speed when it reaches a certain temperature to maintain battery efficiency. Stick it in a freezer and the benchmark numbers increase. http://androidandme.com/2012/11/sma...hmark-showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-418705
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Is it a feature, or a problem? It's possible the processor is more easily overheating in the Nexus 4 from it's position or something. From the sound of things, the DNA will get as good as or better battery life with 4G off.
It's also possible the software is cutting it off way too early. I once had an Asus gaming laptop that needed a bios update because it throttled the gpu down after it got half the temperature that gpu could take.
HTC always has crazy high benchmarks. It obviously means nothing in day to day performance. My one x scored more than twice as high as my galaxy nexus but the nexus usability wise was smoother.
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