[Q] MHL-to-HDMI generic adapters? - HTC Desire X

I bought a generic MHL-to-HDMI adapter off ebay ($5) and can't get it to work at all; there's no signal, no hdmi notification, etc. Have tried multiple ways of plugging in, rebooting, powering, also tried it on a Samsung Galaxy II with no luck.
I confirmed with HTC that the Desire X does in fact have MHL (their site doesn't list it, though others do), here's the main part of their reply:
This is to confirm that the MHL feature is available on your phone. You just need to make sure that you are using a compatible MHL adaptor. We would like to know if the MHL-HDMI adaptor that you are currently using is a third party accessory. If yes, there is a possibility that this is a compatibility issue.
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So the question is, does anyone know if the Desire X is using a "non standard" MHL, or has anyone gotten generic MHL adapters to work? On the other hand, I have found MHL adapters that say they work for particular HTC devices, but on enquiry about compatibility the sellers just reiterated their list of devices; are there different MHL standards used in the HTC stable?
I would like to connect my phone to HDMI TVs/monitors, but my desire (pardon the pun) isn't strong enough to justify spending $50 on a HTC-branded adapter.

I am currently looking for the same adapter to use on my Note 2. In my research I came across some mention of the Note 2 using using a slightly different plug (more pins I think) compared to the same connector on the first Galaxy Note. So just a thought that you may be experiencing that kind of issue... Although two connectors can both be MHL to HDMI, they may still have different specs.

RoGuE_StreaK said:
I bought a generic MHL-to-HDMI adapter off ebay ($5) and can't get it to work at all; there's no signal, no hdmi notification, etc. Have tried multiple ways of plugging in, rebooting, powering, also tried it on a Samsung Galaxy II with no luck.
I confirmed with HTC that the Desire X does in fact have MHL (their site doesn't list it, though others do), here's the main part of their reply:
So the question is, does anyone know if the Desire X is using a "non standard" MHL, or has anyone gotten generic MHL adapters to work? On the other hand, I have found MHL adapters that say they work for particular HTC devices, but on enquiry about compatibility the sellers just reiterated their list of devices; are there different MHL standards used in the HTC stable?
I would like to connect my phone to HDMI TVs/monitors, but my desire (pardon the pun) isn't strong enough to justify spending $50 on a HTC-branded adapter.
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Did you ever get to the bottom of the problem, RoGuE_StreaK?
I recently bought a HTC Desire X and I'm still not sure if the HDMI OUT feature will work (since they don't list it). Can you confirm that you did, indeed manage to play movies on the a external screen?
Cheers,
Juro

JuroClimax said:
Did you ever get to the bottom of the problem, RoGuE_StreaK?
I recently bought a HTC Desire X and I'm still not sure if the HDMI OUT feature will work (since they don't list it). Can you confirm that you did, indeed manage to play movies on the a external screen?
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Nope, never found a solution, info is non-existent. I find it incredibly poor that HTC don't give any info or support for the two USB-port (physical) future trends that this phone is supposed to be capable of, both MHL and USB-OTG.
Kinda waiting to see if it ever gets JB, to see if support will be included then. I'm not going to hack this thing with some unknown 14yr-old's leet rom in the hope that I can plug in devices it is supposed to support in stock form.
MHL seems to be another no-standard standard that means SFA. Even sellers that list their MHL adapter as supporting certain HTC devices won't say that it supports the Desire X.

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[Q] RCA AV TV Out ???

My Nokia N8 and I believe even the predecessor to the i9100 (Galaxy S i9000) supported the use of a 3.5mm RCA AV TV out cable.
I've tried using one with the SGSII unsuccessfully. Is this not supported or am I missing something?
If you search the forums you'll see this doesn't work, confirmed weeks ago by myself and several others. This phone needs an MHL cable/adapter to do TV Out, they're just starting to become available.
NZtechfreak said:
If you search the forums you'll see this doesn't work, confirmed weeks ago by myself and several others. This phone needs an MHL cable/adapter to do TV Out, they're just starting to become available.
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I've searched the forums until I was blue in the face and found no mention of the 3.5mm analog AV cable.
Then again, the search function doesn't seem to work properly as I've done searches on things I've posted about myself and come up with a "no matches found".
Anyway, so does this mean that it's impossible to connect the SGSII to an older TV that doesn't have an HDMI connection? Or does the MHI adapter provide composite, left and right as well as HDMI out?
Sucks if not, as there are innumerable hotel rooms and condos for let that only have such older sets, meaning I'd still have to lug around my N8.
Correct there is no TVout over 3.5mm only via MHL HDMI
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HDMI Capable

would this work, does the galaxy player have MHL capability?
http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324582814&sr=1-8
Presumably you don't have a physical mini-hdmi port then? I've been reading conflicting reports of whether the device supports hdmi and wasn't sure quite what comes with it and whether there are regional differences.
lardman said:
Presumably you don't have a physical mini-hdmi port then? I've been reading conflicting reports of whether the device supports hdmi and wasn't sure quite what comes with it and whether there are regional differences.
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As i understand it, the Korean version of the SGP has a built in HDMI port. The other versions - International and US - do not. I don't know about the internal software on the US or Intl. versions supporting such an adapter.
I was wondering whether the MHL cables contain a chipset or if the HDMI encoding is done on the device (for things like the Galaxy S II), and therefore whether there's any possibility of HDMI output being available on the non-Korean devices via one of these MHL cables.
In any case I'll do some investigation when mine arrives, but if anyone knows what hw the Galaxy S II uses to support MHL (if any) then please do post.
Received the Samsung MHL to HDMI Adapter today (EIA2UHUNBEGSTA) and the US Version (YP-G70) does NOT support video output. I confirmed the Adapter is working OK by connecting it to a Galaxy Nexus phone & the video immediately appears.
Hi,
Probably not helpful, but I was in Korea recently, and we checked out the YP-G70 in a shop in Seoul, and that did have a mini-HDMI port on it. I didn't get it then, because they were asking $400-$500 for it (USD) and I had known that the US model was coming out soon, and had heard it was going to be in the $200+ range.
Also, I think some people bought from Exportprive, and supposedly those had the HDMI port plus the (Korean) TV receiver.
Just FYI...
Jim
I've been looking into MHL as well, and so far no one has responded to my queries as to whether it's a hardware or software feature in the device. If it's purely software, then there's hope for it existing on the device in the future. It seems that all the new ICS devices support it, but I don't know whether it's built in to ICS or not.
So there may be possible hope for future modding/porting of MHL.
I'm almost certain there is additional hardware to support MHL on devices that have it.
The G70 might have analog TV output like the Captivate did though.
dmesg output from a Samsung Galaxy S II would probably show the chip name, which would give us a clue. Anyone have a link to such a thing?
I don't think it has analog (composite) out, since it has a mic input in the earphone jack. look at the earphones that it comes with, see how there is already a fourth section?
I hope I'm wrong, lol!
I think the jack can be reconfigured/repurposed, just like the iPod.
denpri said:
Received the Samsung MHL to HDMI Adapter today (EIA2UHUNBEGSTA) and the US Version (YP-G70) does NOT support video output. I confirmed the Adapter is working OK by connecting it to a Galaxy Nexus phone & the video immediately appears.
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disappointing , Thanks for trying.
Entropy512 said:
I think the jack can be reconfigured/repurposed, just like the iPod.
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Maybe so, but I would think Samsung would list it somewhere in the user manual, wouldn't you? Btw, the iPod touche's audio jack doesn't double as a video out, you have to use the 32 prong apple jack.
wait, so if I have a 3.5mm to composit cable, a firmware upgrade would allow video output? Or would it be a hardware mod to get it to work?
iJimaniac said:
Maybe so, but I would think Samsung would list it somewhere in the user manual, wouldn't you? Btw, the iPod touche's audio jack doesn't double as a video out, you have to use the 32 prong apple jack.
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Maybe not the Touch - but others can do it - http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-Video-Cable-iPod/dp/B000STBSU4
Captivate also has TVout via the 3.5mm jack - http://www.amazon.com/RND-Power-Sol...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1326309037&sr=1-1
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wait, so if I have a 3.5mm to composit cable, a firmware upgrade would allow video output? Or would it be a hardware mod to get it to work?
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Unknown. This thread is speculation so far.
Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
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Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
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I tested mine to no avail, but on one tv, I did get the message "This device is unsupported". Most tv's either said no signal or nothing at all. Weird that one tv would recognize it...
Yup just tested - no good.
I wonder if you could make a mod, but I am 99% positive it needs hardware. To bad, I wonder why they took the HDMI out of the U.S and EU versions in the first place? I would have payed a little extra for it, if necessary.
Dyskmaster said:
I tested mine to no avail, but on one tv, I did get the message "This device is unsupported". Most tv's either said no signal or nothing at all. Weird that one tv would recognize it...
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If the cable was intended for an iPod, it may have a different pinout that caused the TV to see one of the audio outputs as video.
Edit: iPod AV out cables and Captivate ones should be the same, from tip to sleeve:
Left, Right, Ground, Video
iJimaniac said:
Well, maybe it is possible, but I think Samsung would have surely listed it as a feature, it at least mentioned it in the user manual. I think I have a 3.5mm video-audio cable laying around somewhere, I will dig it up and test it, one moment...
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If they didn't have time, motivation to enable some feature, they won't list it even if it's possible, otherwise they'll get lots of returns with people complaining that such and such a feature doesn't work.
I suppose the thing to do is check the jack driver, which I seem to remember seeing somewhere (certainly there was an entry in the sysfs afair) and see whether it either shows how to enable TV out, or whether we can then workout what the chipset is that controls the jack.

[Q] [DX & TV] MHI (HDMI) Cable for HTC Desire X

Hello everyone,
I have a rooted HTC Desire X, my rom is mySENSEdx+ RC2.0. I was wondering if the an MHL cable of Samsung S3 would work for me to link my phone to an LCD TV. I would like to know that because I don't want to take any risk buying that expensive cable.
Endless thanks in advance.
Bradypodion said:
Hello everyone,
I have a rooted HTC Desire X, my rom is mySENSEdx+ RC2.0. I was wondering if the an MHL cable of Samsung S3 would work for me to link my phone to an LCD TV. I would like to know that because I don't want to take any risk buying that expensive cable.
Endless thanks in advance.
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probably not we have OTG support YES but our dual core CPU is not even capable of running a 720p video so I have my doubts about the MHL cable
MihaiA7X said:
probably not we have OTG support YES but our dual core CPU is not even capable of running a 720p video so I have my doubts about the MHL cable
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First of all, thank you so much for your reply.
My brother has an LG Optimus 3D, it has a lower capacity than HTC DX's (Same CPU; RAM 250). He does link his phone to the LCD. Yet, I don't probably know more than you. I did not want to take any risk, the cable is a bit expensive for me; I cannot afford to buy it. ^^' ..but anyway, thank you so much. If I ever make sure I will inform you.
I have bought a MHL adapter from Deal Extreme but it doesnt work.
So I asked HTC if the dx supported mhl and they said it does but only if you
buy their mhl adapter.
Tresox said:
I have bought a MHL adapter from Deal Extreme but it doesnt work.
So I asked HTC if the dx supported mhl and they said it does but only if you
buy their mhl adapter.
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I see.. =l
By the way, another question came to my mind: Is there a difference between an adabter and a simple cable? One that I can mention is that adapters carry the name of the company like Samsung, whereas cables don't.
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I see.. =l
By the way, another question came to my mind: Is there a difference between an adabter and a simple cable? One that I can mention is that adapters carry the name of the company like Samsung, whereas cables don't.
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The Desire X doesnt have HDMI out so this is the only solution.

[Q] USB OTG + MHL -> HDMI? Possible?

I'm on the fence between the HTC One and the Samsung GS4.
One feature I would like is the ability to output HDMI while using a USB port on the phone. The SGS4 has a media dock which charges, outputs HDMI and has 3 usb ports. Is there something similar to his available for the HTC One or a combo of cables/adapters that would effectively do the same thing? It looks like it can do either but I can't find any information confirming that it can do both simultaneously.
I have an Amaze 4G that I really like so I'm leaning towards the One right now and think I'll buy it if it can function like this.
antifan said:
I'm on the fence between the HTC One and the Samsung GS4.
One feature I would like is the ability to output HDMI while using a USB port on the phone. The SGS4 has a media dock which charges, outputs HDMI and has 3 usb ports. Is there something similar to his available for the HTC One or a combo of cables/adapters that would effectively do the same thing? It looks like it can do either but I can't find any information confirming that it can do both simultaneously.
I have an Amaze 4G that I really like so I'm leaning towards the One right now and think I'll buy it if it can function like this.
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I'm going to try my friends HTC ONE in my Samsung Multimedia dock this weekend, has anyone tried a similar dock?
Noellenchris
noellenchris said:
I'm going to try my friends HTC ONE in my Samsung Multimedia dock this weekend, has anyone tried a similar dock?
Noellenchris
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did it work?
speedfreak007 said:
did it work?
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Sorry I never got to try it. I forgot about this one .... I was coaching with him and the season is over now. Hopefully someone can have a chance to try.
Chris

[Q] Has anyone tried MHL with the 7D-501L/503L/501u ?

Hi all,
One of the use cases for a tablet is that it can be used as a light-duty PC replacement.
I intend to use it this way, for some work related stuff. However, to unleash its full utility, it should be paired to a larger display, like 19"+
Miracast does this, but I find that the Miracast on the X1 is a bit choppy. I have a Samsung AllShare dock, and connection is intermittent, with the Malaysia B102 ROM. It was far worse with the initial release ROM.
One of the things I'm thinking is to use an MHL adapter. There are some on the market with built in USB hubs so I can pair this with the X1 and use it as a desktop replacement, for presentation viewing or emails.
Anyway, anyone tried ANY form of MHL adapter on the X1 ?
The original Mediapad (s7-301u) had a micro HDMI port which could be directly used to output.
Thanks all for inputs.
Silly me, there were initial threads saying MHL works.
Just wonder, as there are 2 MHL standards, the earlier one that came with the original Note N7000, and the next version that came with the Note 2 N7100 and later.
Can anyone confirm if the X1 works with the later MHL standard?
joytest said:
Silly me, there were initial threads saying MHL works.
Just wonder, as there are 2 MHL standards, the earlier one that came with the original Note N7000, and the next version that came with the Note 2 N7100 and later.
Can anyone confirm if the X1 works with the later MHL standard?
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There was another thread about MHL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-mediapad/general/mediapad-x1-mhl-t2852769
I can only say I got mine 7D-503L working with MHL adapter intended for Sony Xperia Compact Z1 (MHL v1.0).
I bought a dirt cheap MHL 1.0 adapter for about USD3. Worked on the 7D-501L, but could not work on the Note 4.

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