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Right now I'm on my 2nd Galaxy Nexus (Samsung replaced my 1st one after much messing, it popped n died)
And while I like its vanilla ICS, I'm having big issues over usability due to nothing more than its screen size of 4.65"
On my old HTC Incredible S 4" I could "dance" with my thumb and get around the OS very very quickly.
Every time I stop by a cellphone store and play with the Lumia 800 it fits perfect and I get that "dance" feeling with the ways its in my hand and the speed I can get around the OS.
I'm liking WMP 7.5 a lot.
The sticking point.
Where I live there is no broadband, so I have the true "all you can eat" data plan from "three" that included tethering.
I also have line of sight of just over 100 yards to a celltower I know is "three" and can hit 8mbps average and sometimes hit 11mbps.
Am I being foolish on planning on getting a Lumia 800 with the WiFi tether when the updates is fullt rolled out and selling the GN?
You've got to get the phone that turns you on. Once tethering is available on the Lumia... if you're still madly in love with it and can accept its shortcomings.... then go with what you love.
I have to admit that most of the phones I've ever bought have been for their design aesthetic over their function or specs.
You're also asking this question in a forum where 95% of people here use the Lumia 800, so you are going to get a pretty biased answer. I can already tell you most people will say get the Lumia.
Get the phone that suits you. If you do enjoy Windows Phone and the Lumia 800 hardware, I see no reason not to get the phone unless there is something you need on the GN/Android that Windows Phone can't accomplish for you at the moment.
Probably better to answer the question in a general forum rather than one specific to a device, but even there, you'll probably start a nice little flame war from both sides saying the other one sucks. XD
I've had iPhone 3G, HTC HD7, Galaxy S and now the Lumia in the last 2 years.
You're completely right about screen size. This must vary with the size of a persons hands but for me the maximum screen size that doesn't have usability issues is 4in like the Galaxy S.
The HD7 at 4.3in caused me the same issues as you've found.
I've had a play with the Galaxy Nexus and it's a very nice piece of kit but after using the Lumia it's clear to see that the lags are still there even on a flagship phone. The Lumia is really slick and fast. I can see why you like it. I liked it so much I ditched my Galaxy S which was running ICS.
It's the best phone I've had since my iPhone. And for my money it's a nicer piece of hardware than the current iPhone design. The OS is great too, apart from a few areas where it's lacking.
The downsides are the current issues with battery life and audio quality. You're putting trust in Nokia to sort these out with software updates. Battery life in particular is a real worry, I expect to charge every day but it's struggling to get through the day which means I don't use it as much as I'd like to.
It's not foolish to get something that will (might?) work better for you. The GN is much more powerful, but if it's too big for you to use comfortably, there is not a lot you can do.
I'm a cheap whore myself and I flop between WP/ICS/MeeGo and iOS on a daily basis. The Lumia is spectacular hardware and Mango is a fantastic OS. Grab one and play with both, each has it's own set of strengths and weaknesses.
yeah, borrowing one is the hard part.
cirian75 said:
yeah, borrowing one is the hard part.
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Ask the shop if you can test one out for a day?
they tend not to allow that
as we all know 5 minutes of fiddling in a shop is not enough
24 hours would be and ideal test.
more research required.
I've got the lumia and the GN. The form factor and build quality of the Nokia are excellent, and the interface is really smooth and a joy to use, but ...and it's a big but for me .....it desperately needs more apps. I'm not going give up on the lumia just yet, but there is no way I'd ditch my GN, or android, for the lumia at the moment.
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God i love this phone too, i used to think i might be a Android fun for a long time but i just realist that Windows Phone is good too, and the speed of Lumia 800 is really amazing.
Still no tethering
Hi all,
I agree with the previous posts. The Lumia 800 is brilliant. Smooth as silk, and quick. Software updates seem to have fixed my battery and wifi issues.
But we are now almost in March - and still no tethering, and nokia Austria says there never will be on the Lumia 800.
So you do have to factor that into your decision.
Well thats a "no" then
Silly decision
I think it is not silly.
I will quit android in the next few days (from nexus also)
Because of the apps factor, I tried to do the following:
Start to use only apps of my android (more than 200) that are in the WP market also. And I realized that I have everything I need for my work in motion.
The apps that are only in android but I want them are: skype, viber, dropbox, box.
I am sure they will be able soon, but anyway, WP has SkyDrive.
Instead most of the android apps we need just good browser.
I am sure the real software will be written for WP... soon I hope.
No Tether = no go as my tether is my broadband.
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No Tether = no go as my tether is my broadband.
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There's another post where someone said that another branch of Nokia has said that tethering will come in 2012.
So clearly, there has been no official stance on whether tethering will or won't be added to the phone, but I see no reason why it can't be added due to the phone's internals.
Nokia just needs to turn it on.
Prior to the update I had continuous complaints from my wife regarding poor call quality on my Titan - sometimesto the point of not being able to understand me.
I know this was an ongoing unaddressed isue but in the last week I have had no complaints.
The only change has been the update to the Sound Enhancer.
Did they bundle a fix for the call quality - possibly affecting the noise canceling mic or is this just a lucky week??
How and where did get/find the update you mention?
I had no improvements from the update. After owning the phone for three weeks, my store has agreed to a refund so am returning it. I love the phone but the muffled voice problem was unbearable and recently I have been getting pink spots when taking a photo. I have no idea what phone to buy next but it must be a windows phone.
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How and where did get/find the update you mention?
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Through the Marketplace notification.
@tboy - go for the Lumia800 or Lumia900 mid-May. - I got Lumia800 and love it!
@OP - After sound enhancement muffled voice isn't fixed for me and even the graphics lag with SRS on exists. So am not sure what they've fixed with the update.
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Through the Marketplace notification.
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i must have missed that one. Didn't notice it. Sound still the same with me.
drupad2drupad said:
@tboy - go for the Lumia800 or Lumia900 mid-May. - I got Lumia800 and love it!
@OP - After sound enhancement muffled voice isn't fixed for me and even the graphics lag with SRS on exists. So am not sure what they've fixed with the update.
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So do you own Lumia 800 and HTC Titan?
Agreeing with drupads comment, definitely either the 800 or 900 lumia, I have gone for a 900 after having the massive screen on the Titan, The 800 is a lovely phone which has now been donated to the missus, The 900 has a 4.3 inch screen compared to Titans 4,7 , a front facing camera whereas the 800 lumia hasn't, Am still going to keep the Titan as a back up phone and luckily haven't had any problems since the screen died and was repaired , There definitely seems to have been a huge batch of Titans which suffer from the muffled voice syndrome. Personally the Titan will be the last HTC I shall own due to their lack of enthusiasm and advertising towards WP7, Think Nokia has the right idea.
how would your enthusiasm be if after leading the way with WP with Mozart,Trophy,HD7,Surround,HTC7 Pro,Radar,Titan and Titan2 microsoft flung 10's of millions to another company for a windows version of the N9 which is no real advance on the existing Titan1. nokia's next effort better be something unreal and i don't mean a 41mp look at me camera
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So do you own Lumia 800 and HTC Titan?
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Yes, I got Lumia 800 just recently! I wish I had done so before, but the bigger screen tempted me to buy my first and the only HTC ever!
AndyFZ1S said:
Agreeing with drupads comment, definitely either the 800 or 900 lumia, I have gone for a 900 after having the massive screen on the Titan, The 800 is a lovely phone which has now been donated to the missus, The 900 has a 4.3 inch screen compared to Titans 4,7 , a front facing camera whereas the 800 lumia hasn't, Am still going to keep the Titan as a back up phone and luckily haven't had any problems since the screen died and was repaired , There definitely seems to have been a huge batch of Titans which suffer from the muffled voice syndrome. Personally the Titan will be the last HTC I shall own due to their lack of enthusiasm and advertising towards WP7, Think Nokia has the right idea.
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I never had HTC until I wanted to get a Windows Phone with huge screen. I had Toshiba TG01 (WinMo 6.5). Then ended up also getting HTC Sensation XL. Never use it though. But these two HTC are the only HTCs I've ever owned in my life and Titan is definitely the last Windows Phone on HTC for me. I will stick with Nokia for Windows Phone. HTC cares more about its Android brigade than Windows Phones.
Hallo guys!
I could use your advise. One of my friends is interested in buying a new phone and she likes the Nokia Lumia 800. Problem is i know 2 people who have this phone and both of them have issues regarding the phone's call quality. One of them has a problem when using the hands-free, as he cant hear well enough the person who's talking to him. The other has a more serious problem. When he talks with someone, the other person hears him funny, like he's in some tunnel or something. Terrible quality. He's taken the phone to Nokia Service 2 times and they said it was fine but the problem never went away... Is this a common problem?? Because she talks a lot on her phone, and if this is a common problem she should look for an other phone to buy.
Thanks in advance for your help....
call quality?
I have the nokia lumia 800 for a week, nothing to say, enviable ...
is too good, fast and calls there is not a problem, Swoop ... you will not regret.
Crisarancibia said:
call quality?
I have the nokia lumia 800 for a week, nothing to say, enviable ...
is too good, fast and calls there is not a problem, Swoop ... you will not regret.
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Thanks a lot for your answer my friend!
Is the new Sony Xperia P a better choice?? Or should i stick to the Lumia 800 what do you think??
Hi. Xperia P better choise in all way if you want android but if you want good WP7 buy HTC first gen. I have nokia Lumia 800 with DLOAD bootloader and it sucks. I cant flash custom ROMS and with stock ROM Lumia is useless phone. First of all stock Lumia dont have many good things like BT transfer, File manager or music equalizer, photos bad quality, music plays very low volume, battery drain fast. One thing is good on the Lumia is the screen and thats it. I will sold my Lumia for ~230EU and buy HTC 1st generation for about 150EU. 1st gen HTC phones can be easily unlock and flash custom ROM even Nokia Edition with all good Nokia stuff and with equalizer, with BT transfer, file manager and other good things.
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Hi. Xperia P better choise in all way if you want android but if you want good WP7 buy HTC first gen. I have nokia Lumia 800 with DLOAD bootloader and it sucks. I cant flash custom ROMS and with stock ROM Lumia is useless phone. First of all stock Lumia dont have many good things like BT transfer, File manager or music equalizer, photos bad quality, music plays very low volume, battery drain fast. One thing is good on the Lumia is the screen and thats it. I will sold my Lumia for ~230EU and buy HTC 1st generation for about 150EU. 1st gen HTC phones can be easily unlock and flash custom ROM even Nokia Edition with all good Nokia stuff and with equalizer, with BT transfer, file manager and other good things.
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From the sound of the question I don't think this person is looking to flash roms every 5 mins. The battery drain issue has been fixed for months now. I would say that for the prices you can get it now its a bargain.
The screen just rocks
free sat nav
exclusive apps
great camera features like group shot and action shot just rock
its a great size and solid build
its really fast
and so on
you said you know 2 people with it already so I don't need to go on about that only to say that my call quality rocks. Sometime though mine freezes and I need to lock and unlock the screen but I think that's more how I treat it (very rough and I have 4 kids under 5 and under) as it only started doing it recently.
I would sum it up like this - If you want a high end phone and use it enough to need a contract over £20 a month then wait for windows phone 8, if you however want a great phone at an amazing price (i have seen it free on a £15 a month contract inc data) then you wont go wrong. There is simply nothing in its price bracket that will come close to it. You will get a hop end phone at feature phone prices and unlike android you wont end up with something that is underpowered to run the os.
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From the sound of the question I don't think this person is looking to flash roms every 5 mins. The battery drain issue has been fixed for months now. I would say that for the prices you can get it now its a bargain.
The screen just rocks
free sat nav
exclusive apps
great camera features like group shot and action shot just rock
its a great size and solid build
its really fast
and so on
you said you know 2 people with it already so I don't need to go on about that only to say that my call quality rocks. Sometime though mine freezes and I need to lock and unlock the screen but I think that's more how I treat it (very rough and I have 4 kids under 5 and under) as it only started doing it recently.
I would sum it up like this - If you want a high end phone and use it enough to need a contract over £20 a month then wait for windows phone 8, if you however want a great phone at an amazing price (i have seen it free on a £15 a month contract inc data) then you wont go wrong. There is simply nothing in its price bracket that will come close to it. You will get a hop end phone at feature phone prices and unlike android you wont end up with something that is underpowered to run the os.
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Nokia Lumia 800 without custom ROM is peace of sh*t. You dont get big part of amazing features. For the baterry I dont know what do you mean "The battery drain issue has been fixed for months now" - lie because battery drain very fast.
Lets talk about SQ, DAC and anything related to thread title here:
Nokia is known to produce good sounding mobiles even in the old days... Since 920 bares same chipset that of HTC One-S (which is good enough), i expect 920 to be good also...
I want the old Nokia sound output
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The WP8 Lumia's will have a EQ with customizable settings!
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokias-custom-equalizer-gets-picture-lumia
The DAC will be good my sister has the One S and it does sound good better than my One X so can only imagine with dolby and EQ this will sound just as awesome.
I just love the free music streaming I'm a music lover and that will be a pretty nifty service.
The more I look at WP8 the more I want one!
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Lets talk about SQ, DAC and anything related to thread title here:
Nokia is known to produce good sounding mobiles even in the old days... Since 920 bares same chipset that of HTC One-S (which is good enough), i expect 920 to be good also...
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No good DAC, no sale.
Dunno if anyone has seen the 920 in person, although it is probably hard to judge this anyway on the showfloor. This has always been a priority on a top-rate handset for me: Speaker quality. I've been generally disappointed with smartphone speakers in general compared to my older candybar and even slider phones, since modern smartphones are so thin. Nokia is known for great speakers in their phones, at least back when I still followed Nokia a good 4-5 years ago, and their stereo speakers were little boomboxes. How good do you think the Lumia 920 will be in this area? Can anyone with a Lumia 900 or 800 comment? The best smartphone I've heard so far in the modern smartphone era has been the Galaxy Note. It has a great full sound and bass, for a phone that is. The smaller Samsung phones are quite far behind their big brother. The HTC One X was okay but I heard the older models had terrible speakers.
On another note, my closed thread is near the top of the page. Either xda is a terrible place to gauge windows phone and nokia activity or there is something seriously wrong with the buzz surrounding this phone, which all the blogs and tech sites would have you believe otherwise.
I dont think you can base the fact the one s has good audio down to the DAC in the dual core snapdragon S4 because quite frankly the sony xperia T sucks plain and simply it is horrid low volume and no bass.
Also I really wish nokia went android as I would have snapped this phone up have always loved nokia phones and their cameras/video and sound quality and battery life not to mention the the great multi tasking.
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N9 player will be good for this device.:angel:
This looks pretty positive:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/635554/nokia-lumia-920-sound-quality
Being a big fan of the sound on my Nokia N9 and iPhone (4/4s/5), the sound on the Lumia 920 is easily on-par.. I'm paring them with Shure SE535's ..
For those curious, I'm NOT a fan of the sound of the HTC One X or Lumia 800..
I'm a happy camper as I was ultra concerned about this.. Nokia did it right with the 920 on the audio quality front.. :good:
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Being a big fan of the sound on my Nokia N9 and iPhone (4/4s/5), the sound on the Lumia 920 is easily on-par.. I'm paring them with Shure SE535's ..
For those curious, I'm NOT a fan of the sound of the HTC One X or Lumia 800..
I'm a happy camper as I was ultra concerned about this.. Nokia did it right with the 920 on the audio quality front.. :good:
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Agreed the sound quality on the 800 really isn't great despite the update the pushed out a while back. My N9 is way better so it's good to know the 920 is on par.
I still dont understand how the N9 takes better pictures and video despite having the same sensor as the 800. A lot of this stuff comes down to software so atleast nokia didnt screw that one up.
Anyone seen any hard stats on audio quality? Places I normally see them have not reviewed 920 yet.
I have a Lumia 900. It's a great phone but it is just not feeling the WP8 love.
One of the things that concern me is the larger size. The 900 is already a heavy phone. Another is the reports of camera issues.
The last thing is simply the differences between WP7 & 8, are there enough improvements to justify the swap. I already know that the one app I use most is no longer available on 7 or 8 so I’m wondering what other adjustments are in store.
Anyway, has anyone else made this swap or simply have some constructive input on this phone?
For what it's worth I couldn't get hold of a 920 so got an 820 instead, There are minor improvements over the 900 and although I consider it an upgrade from my 900 I don't think it is warranted at this time for you to switch,
Yes the 920 of course is heavier and has a bigger screen and has a higher resolution so this does sway most people along with the fact it has an amazing capable camera, The OS does not really differ much once you get past the tiles, I personally think a few more firmware updates should solve any problems for the camera and any other issues etc,
Remember this is still the first batch and it really needs ironing out and polishing before it is worth upgrading,
That aside the OS does show promise and I am sure it will eventually be able to do everything we need and more, Try one out before you decide of course.
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For what it's worth I couldn't get hold of a 920 so got an 820 instead, There are minor improvements over the 900 and although I consider it an upgrade from my 900 I don't think it is warranted at this time for you to switch,
Yes the 920 of course is heavier and has a bigger screen and has a higher resolution so this does sway most people along with the fact it has an amazing capable camera, The OS does not really differ much once you get past the tiles, I personally think a few more firmware updates should solve any problems for the camera and any other issues etc,
Remember this is still the first batch and it really needs ironing out and polishing before it is worth upgrading,
That aside the OS does show promise and I am sure it will eventually be able to do everything we need and more, Try one out before you decide of course.
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I completely disagree... and respectfully disagree. I had a 900 and switched. The improvements are subtle yet all over. Like the predictive keyboard is spot on. Voice to email... Voice to text anything is slightly more accurate. THE CAMERA! Lenses, etc. The wieght is a non issue. The camera, oh and lets not forget the camera. At times the battery life, I have an app that leaks.
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I have a Lumia 900. It's a great phone but it is just not feeling the WP8 love.
One of the things that concern me is the larger size. The 900 is already a heavy phone. Another is the reports of camera issues.
The last thing is simply the differences between WP7 & 8, are there enough improvements to justify the swap. I already know that the one app I use most is no longer available on 7 or 8 so I’m wondering what other adjustments are in store.
Anyway, has anyone else made this swap or simply have some constructive input on this phone?
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Honestly if you already have a 900 I would not bother with a 920 at the moment, IMO you won't see a major difference between 7.8 and 8 yet.
I wonder how serious MS is about WP 8, things like Skype aren't great & a good RDP client is from MS is still missing. The fact that I can have a better remote desktop experience on Android is bad, same goes with Skype.
I own a 920 and it is a nice device but its shortcomings start bugging you over time. Also the Nokia Play To DLNA app is still not ready for WP 8.
Thanks Everyone.
It looks like my wife is going to move to an 820, she prefers the size, so that will give me some insight into WP8. The kid’s mode in one of the features she’s looking forward to.
I haven’t received 7.8 on my 900 yet but I’m only keen on some of the home screen changes.
The camera on the 900 has been a disappointment, my old focus took better pics and video.
For me RDP from phone is something I did 5 years ago that doesn’t really have any value for me. A VPN client with a file explorer would be a different story though.
I use Skype on WP7 and it works pretty well, I find it less annoying than the Android version on my Flyer.
Something that caught my eye yesterday were the rumors about an aluminum version of the Lumia coming out this year. If it is anything like the N8 it would certainly have my attention.