Time to scrap the TB? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When the TB first came out it felt very snappy, very smooth and fairly quick. Rooted it and after some time it just seems to have no hope and I dont know why. I have flashed almost every Rom out there and it seems to work fine for a little bit and then within a week it is back to its VERY laggy performance. When the S3 came out, I got that and my wife wanted my TB. She is getting tired of me playing around with the phone and trying to get a performance fix and just wants a new phone. Should I try to unroot it and run it stock for her? Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)

The phone slowing down may be certain apps impacting performance, so you may want to look into that. Also if you haven't already I would ditch sense based roms and give AOSP a try.

1Android said:
When the TB first came out it felt very snappy, very smooth and fairly quick. Rooted it and after some time it just seems to have no hope and I dont know why. I have flashed almost every Rom out there and it seems to work fine for a little bit and then within a week it is back to its VERY laggy performance. When the S3 came out, I got that and my wife wanted my TB. She is getting tired of me playing around with the phone and trying to get a performance fix and just wants a new phone. Should I try to unroot it and run it stock for her? Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)
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The aosp ICS is snappy but a few things don't work. I haven't tried there sense version but heard good things.
The Gnex is a free upgrade btw
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In my opinion, sense based roms are slower & have more lag than than others. It is pretty much up to you, or your wife, to let you know what she wants. I was really looking forward to trying out the newest AOSP 4.0.4 ICS by twistedumbrella. Have you tried this yet? I haven't been able to get past the "bootloop" but it seems that some are & some aren't. I believe you'd love the rom if it works on your TB.

Keep in mind all aosp liquid/twisted builds the video recording does not work. Knowing most women camera and camcorder is a must lol.
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Dark Jedi said:
Keep in mind all aosp liquid/twisted builds the video recording does not work. Knowing most women camera and camcorder is a must lol.
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This is some good advice for the OP. I recall running a deodexed 2.7 or something a while back that would probably work well for the OP. It is sense based but it was very stable and everything works.

1Android said:
Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)
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If she's looking for something that is smoother with less lag then stock definitely won't bring her that. If you're able, I'd look into getting a newer phone. The Thunderbolt is at its end of life.
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Looking for a stable android rom.

I'm looking to flash a rom for my mom's touchpad.
Although she loves the pad, she's more used to the android platform due to her phone and has asked me to do something about it.
I want to get her something that's bug free so that she doesn't have to call me every 5 mins to let me know something has happened.
I could really care less if it's ics or not as long as it works 100% as it's supposed to. I know that these are not official roms and what not but given from your experience, which of the current roms are the least buggy and use friendly for a elderly lady?
Thanks guys
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I'm looking to flash a rom for my mom's touchpad.
Although she loves the pad, she's more used to the android platform due to her phone and has asked me to do something about it.
I want to get her something that's bug free so that she doesn't have to call me every 5 mins to let me know something has happened.
I could really care less if it's ics or not as long as it works 100% as it's supposed to. I know that these are not official roms and what not but given from your experience, which of the current roms are the least buggy and use friendly for a elderly lady?
Thanks guys
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everything for the touchpad is ics.
all the roms are good.
i personally use the official CM9 nightlies. they are stable.
ive heard great things about the ClassicNerd roms though as well.
everything on ICS works apart from mic and camera (mic is being tested but is unstable at the moment), the rest of it works like a charm.
I'm using CM9 nightlies aswell having come from classicnerd, the latter was amazing but the battery life is woeful and it is on their to do list without compromising it's smoothness. Stick with cm9 nightlies and you won't be disappointed.
Thanks for the response guys, I think I will go ahead and flash it to cm9 then.
I think she won't really use mic or camera much any ways.
There is a cm7 Rom available too which had had more time for development... I personally like ics a lot better and they both r on pretty much the sane page (cm7 and cm9)
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hmm so I went ahead and installed cm9 following this tut.
http://liliputing.com/2012/01/how-to-install-android-4-0-on-the-hp-touchpad-cyanogenmod-9-alpha.html
Followed to the t and installed cm9 and when I rebooted, it came back to web os.. am I missing something?
I just flashed my Touchpad after many months of idleness. The first ROM I flashed turned out to be great. No force closes or lag the few days I've been using it. I highly recommend it. Very simple flashing. It's an ICS ROM too!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472892
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While CM9 is quite good, expect fairly poor battery life compared to webOS.
BinkXDA said:
While CM9 is quite good, expect fairly poor battery life compared to webOS.
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i dunno...i'm managing just fine
ace9988 said:
i dunno...i'm managing just fine
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As am I, battery life on OaTs latest seems to be pretty nice, I'll admit I'm never too far from my desk and its touchstone but, it'll get me a good day of use out and about easy.
As long as I stay away from GTA III of course...
Again I'm doing fine with the nightly despite games such as samurai 2 and shadow gun
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toyface said:
As am I, battery life on OaTs latest seems to be pretty nice, I'll admit I'm never too far from my desk and its touchstone but, it'll get me a good day of use out and about easy.
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I don't know what Oats is--I'm on the 6/24 CM9 nightly--but under webOS my regular usage gave me about a week of battery life. Under CM9 and the same usage I need to recharge every two to three days.
siptang said:
hmm so I went ahead and installed cm9 following this tut.
http://liliputing.com/2012/01/how-to-install-android-4-0-on-the-hp-touchpad-cyanogenmod-9-alpha.html
Followed to the t and installed cm9 and when I rebooted, it came back to web os.. am I missing something?
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Latest nightlies are renamed, acmeinstaller looks for files prefixed with 'update-' (no quotes). Stick that infront of the cm9 nightly file name and run aceminstaller2 again, it could do with been fixed really, I did the same thing a few weeks back.
Well every device will differ with battery life. The only safe bet is turning off the typical stuff like WiFi, syncing, and lowering brightness to a minimum
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Another vote for cm9. It is doing quite well and is on rc1
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I just flashed cm9 onto my mom's touchpad and she loves it even though she has never used android before. Her only complaint is that it doesn't have a good facebook app.
Side note though, I am using the latest nightly and everything works great expect google chrome (the regular browser is fine). Chrome is a bit laggly and when I scroll quickly the screen flashes with some weird black line for a second, it looks like the notification bar almost. Any ideas?
Glad to hear she's happy. I'm seriously thinking of picking up a nexus 7 and giving my touchpad to my father.
Chrome has been working pretty good for me. I used to see things like you describe on earlier versions, but lately it has been good. The ics browser is pretty good, so you might not be missing much.
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So what's everyones opinion on the stock ics ota?

My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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Root it but I wouldn't flash the stock ics by any means. It seems that it is slow for a lot of people.
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I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
musicfreak190 said:
I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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Superwipe be4 installing santods, also follow his instructions to a T. Plus don't forget to recallibrate your bat.
Also, do not restore any apps on 1st boot.
I have no lag.
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I am on the debloat/deodex Santod released, 0 lag, everything runs smooth here, if you have issues try a fresh install following all the instructions, maybe something just didnt go 100% the first time.
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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Is there any difference in game performance between GB and the stock ICS OTA?
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I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
Also, remember that people perceived "lag" differently. So to some the stock ICS rom is laggy while to others its smooth. Unfortunately without rooting her device she won't be able to experience the difference and to decide if its worth it.
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draiken78 said:
I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
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Downloaded Nova launcher, HUGE difference... Running much better now!
I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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The messages thing is perfectly true. My wife's messaging app took forever to open post update. For a few days it was near unusable. Now its better.
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I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
When you set your default launcher to Nova and the phone boots without launching the sense launcher which is technically just an app in the eyes of the phone, and the fact that Nova is better coded to be more efficient on memory/cpu/graphics I don't understand anyone's confusion on why using the launcher, or going back home from another app you would see speed increases/less lag. Not only is it much quicker, but it redraws a lot less, and I find that other apps run better with Nova running in the background as opposed to rosie.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
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My front camera, the one on the screen side, doesn't work in either camera or camcorder mode. Has anyone else noticed this? When I try to choose this camera, it just freezes and then goes back to the home screen.
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Menu buttons
Hi
After the Verizon ICS upgrade, the lower menu buttons (home, menu, back and search) don't always light up. They seem to function ok but they are impossible to read in the dark. It seems to only happen now and then. I have not seen a pattern. Phone is not rooted. I did not notice this bad behaviour until after the ICS upgrade. It may just be a hardware issue on a 2.5 year old phone.
Anyone else notice this after ICS?
Thanks
John
No lighting problems but little things like that have me using a replacement launcher, messaging app, and locker.
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rpatrick said:
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My two bits: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your girlfriend has been happy this long on the FroYo stock unrooted phone? Why risk ruining that? No one wants an unhappy girlfiend (sic). If you're not going to root it, then there's no way to go back if you decide the upgrade is not so much "up". The exception may be if she's already planning on upgrading to a new phone: go ahead and go to ICS and see how it is, then if she doesn't like it she can at least move to a new phone with an extra few days experience with ICS, (her new phone won't likely have FroYo... )

Not very happy with my s4

After a few days of playing with my S4 I would have to say I'm not very happy with it. My smart stay setting don't work but maybe a 1/4 of the time if that. My voice commands don't work but half the time and I get a bit of lag from time to time. I've always used the stock browser in the past cause of flash player and now that don't work right, along with every now and then not being able to click links like its lagging but yet the url, bookmarks, Window manager, and menu button work. Plus the battery life hasn't been to great but that may be me being used to the note 2 battery. If anyone else is getting the same thing or knows of fixes please let me know. I have had these problems on fully stock, rooted with stock debloated, and now on rooted stock. Should I just wait and see what roms come out or should I try to return it and if I should return it is there a way back to non rooted fully stock? Thank you for your time.
edit 5/30: i just got done formating the int and ext storage to start from scratch. after that i noticed hyperdrive was just released so i installed that. phone softbricked cause i tried to install the ads mod from the app he has on the rom. was getting missing file errors and i/o error when tring to restore/wipe/install anything. did the no-wipe factory image and had to wipe data and factory reset after to get it out of bootloop. now im back and phone seems to be running great (but not sure about the voice commands and smart screen stuff just yet). i think my problem was i didnt change the save folder for titanium backup to sd card and i had some rom backups in the int. storage. figured this out when i went to make a backup and it said not enough memory. so if your having problems with lag double check your int. storage to make sure you have plenty of space.
Sounds like every S 4 I have ever seen.
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After a few days of playing with my S4 I would have to say I'm not very happy with it. My smart stay setting don't work but maybe a 1/4 of the time if that. My voice commands don't work but half the time and I get a bit of lag from time to time. I've always used the stock browser in the past cause of flash player and now that don't work right, along with every now and then not being able to click links like its lagging but yet the url, bookmarks, Window manager, and menu button work. Plus the battery life hasn't been to great but that may be me being used to the note 2 battery. If anyone else is getting the same thing or knows of fixes please let me know. I have had these problems on fully stock, rooted with stock debloated, and now on rooted stock. Should I just wait and see what roms come out or should I try to return it and if I should return it is there a way back to non rooted fully stock? Thank you for your time.
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Looking at his site, he got his donations, and was about to purchase the device. He should just be waiting for its arrival. Give it a week or two and he will likely have a ROM cooked
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Thanks for the heads up! I ran it on my note 2 and loved it. Can't freaking wait!
Glad I brightened things up a bit for you!! Heck I am looking to upgrade soon and am considering the gs4. Been testing the waters in anticipation. I ran one of scotts roms years ago on my Optimus S (moved to the nexus s 4g, to currently the epic 4g touch) and he made a solid rom then, I know that.
I came from a note 2 as well. I can't wait for custom roms. The stock rom Sucks. I miss clean rom and beanstown but I'm sure everything will be here soon because the S series devices always have more development because they're more popular and more of an everyone phone unlike the note which isn't for everyone.
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I've seen none of that. This phone hasn't lagged once. Huge upgrade over my Galaxy nexus.
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I've noticed the Verizon S4 lags when compared to the T-Mobile variant.
the issue with links you cant click is an bug browser freezing up.hopefully they will fix it soon.temp u can clise tge broswer and then fire back up and it should work.
I wonder in Verizon applied the latest update like all the other carruers did that took care of lag etc...I remember something in early may that the other carriers were getting an update to address the lag issue and since our phones were just released last week...it may be a little bit before Verizon catches up.
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The Galaxy S3 was the first android phone that I could say finally solved the laggyness that has been there since the droid. I have an iphone 5, S3, and the S4. The S4, at least mine, is clearly faster then my S3, and the even the iphone (which has always been pinnacle of non lag phones)......can't even compare with the S4 smoothness, and that is saying something.
I hate lag, hated it since the OGDroid, and can see immediately. I'm sorry you're having issues with you're S4, but I really don't know what alternative phone you could buy as of now.....because, if i'm not mistaking, the S4,HTC One or Iphone.....are the only phones you can buy with the least amount of lag as of todays date.
Best of luck to you.
Well I need to do some more testing with the voice command. I went outside today (were is bright) and noticed that some of the clear stickers on the side of the phone were still there. Just not to sure if the ones I pulled off was covering the mic. If it's better from here on out I will definitely feel like a de de deee.
edit: still having a little of trouble but it may have to do with background noises and the phone volume being all the way up.
Tks
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Cleanrom would be nice right about now but I heard it will be a while till he can get his hands on one. Looks like I may have to just wait it out for some roms to come out And hope the wonderful devs can get this thing running good. God knows verizon cant do it.
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Tks for the tip.
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I've seen none of that. This phone hasn't lagged once. Huge upgrade over my Galaxy nexus.
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Same here.
I turned off all the Air gestures, and other 'features' that I don't need or care about and switched to ADW EX launcher.
Very pleased with the S4.
I'm happy with my GS4. No issues with me. My battery has been treating me much better compared to my old LG Revolution. I haven't noticed any lag on my phone and that's something I noticed all the time on 2.3.6
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That sucks. I'm glad I haven't had any issues.
I kept reading posts about the S4 being laggy, so I was a little worried when I picked mine up yesterday. Luckily, I seem to have a lag free version.
I came from an iPhone 5, and this S4 is much faster. Prior to that I had a gnex, and there is night and day difference between that and the S4.
Omg, Clean Rom is coming!!!!!! I cant wait, his roms are seriously top notch, I have renewed faith!!!!
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I came from a note 2 as well. I can't wait for custom roms. The stock rom Sucks. I miss clean rom and beanstown but I'm sure everything will be here soon because the S series devices always have more development because they're more popular and more of an everyone phone unlike the note which isn't for everyone.
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What are you guys talking about here, you can run other carrier roms, what is your hold up? You can run any rom the ATT I337 can, to include sprint and t-mobile roms. you just need to use the loki patch (verizon) within the recovery apps. Smile and start here...Cheer up Charlie!
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[Q] Passing on the torch

I got a new phone (it's been a great run here with the rezound) and I am giving my rezound to my wife. She is not into any customizing and I just want her to have a 100% rock solid reliable phone with EVERYTHING functional.
That said, should I just go back to bone stock? Or is there a ROM that you would suggest that is uncomplicated and free of any quirks? I currently have liquidrom installed on it (which I love) but it still has some issues and I know a lot of other recent roms ive tried have had their issues as well. Video recording is one of the most common issues I've had with recent roms.
I'm hesitant to re-lock and S-ON if it isn't really necessary, but I just want to make sure she doesn't have to deal with any quirks that are often found in custom roms.
She is coming from a droid4 with android 4.2.2 so she is familiar with the UI for the most part (which is why im hesitant to go all the way back to sense 4).
Suggestions?
You could try tweaking some preferences to make liquid smooth more reliable. I used funky 3.8 on it with lulzactive and its been a fantastic,stable backup phone.
A safer route would be to install a recent CM9 build.
Also, try showing her how to battery pull and fix permissions, maybe write it down for her? Always a good thing to know, just in case
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I believe Neo's Rage 1.9.6 is supposed to be what he considers a "wife" build. Camera and camcorder can still occasionaly not work right on it, and I think they never fixed BT in CM9.
If she is not all that good with tech, then I would probably go either stock, or with a rom based closely on stock, like ecliptic.
One thing I've learned is to never put any custom Roms on someone else's phone. Usually there are quirks that'll give them issues and have them keep coming back to you for help. If you're giving your phone to somebody that isn't into rooting and romming, I highly recommend you go stock.
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From past experience, CM9 is pretty solid. I used shrike's CM9 rom for a while without issues.
Stick to sense 3.6 ROMS. Since that is as close to bone stock as possible, that is your best bet.
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trud9340 said:
I got a new phone (it's been a great run here with the rezound) and I am giving my rezound to my wife. She is not into any customizing and I just want her to have a 100% rock solid reliable phone with EVERYTHING functional.
That said, should I just go back to bone stock? Or is there a ROM that you would suggest that is uncomplicated and free of any quirks? I currently have liquidrom installed on it (which I love) but it still has some issues and I know a lot of other recent roms ive tried have had their issues as well. Video recording is one of the most common issues I've had with recent roms.
I'm hesitant to re-lock and S-ON if it isn't really necessary, but I just want to make sure she doesn't have to deal with any quirks that are often found in custom roms.
She is coming from a droid4 with android 4.2.2 so she is familiar with the UI for the most part (which is why im hesitant to go all the way back to sense 4).
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If you did go back to sense if you haven't used hawknests eclipticrez v9, I recommend giving it a try.
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If you did go back to sense if you haven't used hawknests eclipticrez v9, I recommend giving it a try.
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I'm running EclipticRez 9.0 and I have zero intention of moving to another phone until this puppy flat or dies, even then I'll probably buy another Rez off eBay cheap. This phone and Ecliptic 9.0 does all I need and more and I'm pretty demanding.
I refuse to waste $ on just new, I want better for my $ and I don't see anything better that Ecliptic.
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Bought my G2

Bought my G2 at opening. First one at store to purchase . This is the bes t phone I've ever had. LG did an excellent job. The only reason I will have to root is to debloat. This is the smoothest and the ui is beautiful. If you were debating don't. I came from the HTC ONE , which was and is a great phone, but this blows me away. Battery so far kills the ONE, which was my only complaint with it
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So far I've had a similar experience.
I cannot wait for this to get root, that is my only complaint so far.
The double tap to unlock really makes this phone.
It is a nice phone, but the fact we may not see AOSP is making me reconsider it. I like having the most recent version of Android as well as the stock Android UI, much better than any theme out there. Even the notification shade on stock is so much better. Oh well, have 15 days to return it, if anything new and awesome about the Nexus 5 leaks I may return this.
bose301s said:
It is a nice phone, but the fact we may not see AOSP is making me reconsider it. I like having the most recent version of Android as well as the stock Android UI, much better than any theme out there. Even the notification shade on stock is so much better. Oh well, have 15 days to return it, if anything new and awesome about the Nexus 5 leaks I may return this.
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What makes you think we wont see aosp? Yes it has a locked bootloader but someone usually finds a way. Just wondering if I missed something and we will be stuck like the gs4 guys.
bose301s said:
It is a nice phone, but the fact we may not see AOSP is making me reconsider it. I like having the most recent version of Android as well as the stock Android UI, much better than any theme out there. Even the notification shade on stock is so much better. Oh well, have 15 days to return it, if anything new and awesome about the Nexus 5 leaks I may return this.
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There is no "fact" yet, barely anyone has really gotten their hands on it yet to even start attempting to unlock the bootloader.
We won't really have a good idea for a few more weeks probably.
randyspants said:
What makes you think we wont see aosp? Yes it has a locked bootloader but someone usually finds a way. Just wondering if I missed something and we will be stuck like the gs4 guys.
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I'm just worried about CM as the Optimus G for ATT doesn't have official CM builds.
Namtaru said:
There is no "fact" yet, barely anyone has really gotten their hands on it yet to even start attempting to unlock the bootloader.
We won't really have a good idea for a few more weeks probably.
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I agree and I bet we will, just worried for the reason I said above, the ATT Optimus G doesn't have official CM.
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
Namtaru said:
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
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I want to change the OS as you can tell.
Namtaru said:
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
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Its better than samsung's touchwiz but I cant stick with it, the mms app notifications are much worse and the stock lcd density makes everything HUGE! I'm running 360 right now but some things like camera are funky.
Namtaru said:
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
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I run Hyperdrive on both the S3 and S4 and that is mostly Touchwiz. I would be happy just to root this one. I don't need CM or the others for this phone.
jspradling7 said:
I run Hyperdrive on both the S3 and S4 and that is mostly Touchwiz. I would be happy just to root this one. I don't need CM or the others for this phone.
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Speaking of Hyperdrive, I'm going to try and help sbreen94 get this device. A bounty thread will be open soon.
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Can't wait until mine arrives tomorrow
This phone has enough tweaks that if I have to stay stock with it, I'm ok. Had the HTC One and liked Sense 5 but coming from a Gnex I really wanted vast improvement in battery live. Got that now and then some.
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I am totally satisfied with this phone. Always having touchwiz in the past, this ui just kills it. Its been allowing time since I have been happy with a stock UI. already rooted and debloated and I'm happy. Only one gripe so far. Google play music is not sending Bluetooth metadata to my car. I can live with that.
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Picked it up today, and love it! The UI is so much better than TW, I don't think I'll even throw a custom launcher on it this time.
Namtaru said:
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
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I'm in the same boat pretty much. CM while the development team is amazing is overrated IMO. I have a Nexus 4 and I like AOSP, but I don't need anything but root so I clean up the stuff I don't want on the G2. Too many test builds too many bugs, I'm over it.
If I could get back the stock Android browser and UI I would be extremely happy, definitely nice as is though.
I just wonder if this is better than the Note 3. It looks like a great device tho. I had the Optimus G Pro but it felt clunky and the camera was not the greatest. But the screen was amazing!
I am easy to please. I never had issues with TW. I ran both cleanrom and bonestock. TW is fine. This UI is fine. Root and all that jazz is icing but really isn't a huge deal. It's all android to me.
Namtaru said:
For anyone else that has one (Verizon model here)
Is it weird for me to say that this is the first time I've bought a new Android phone and didn't really care to change the OS at all, other than wanting to de-bloat it?
I ran CM on all my previous phones, and after using this for a day and all the features the stock OS has, I'm perfectly fine with it.
Maybe I'm getting old
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I agree totally. I love this OS
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