How to remove "tampered" tag from bootloader mode? - HTC Droid DNA

Hey everyone, the HTC Droid DNA is my first android phone ever. I've had several years' experience jailbreaking and developing on the ipod touch, so I rooted my phone after exploring it and becoming familiar with the operating system and its features. Everything went smoothly, except that now there's a headline in bootloader mode that says **TAMPERED**, I guess as a quick way for Verizon to find out if the phone's been rooted or not.
Well, I do know about unrooting, but my question is, will unrooting my phone remove the **TAMPERED** line from bootloader mode?

No the tampered notice is permanent until we get s-off.
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From my understanding, rooting is pretty much you performing a privilege escalation attack on your phone.
So is getting s-off the same thing, just to a deeper level?

It's not the same. S-on means security is On and you cannot make chanes to the system files while booted in android.
The Cube kernel allows writing to the system while booted in android but it's not the same as S-off though the effect is similar.

So, how do programs like Unrevoked Forever get s-off?
And I haven't heard about the phone's radio, which is apparently where the flag is stored. Can someone explain that to me, or link to an article that does? I'll try to find one in the meantime...
edit: Found a question on stackexchange.com explaining what the radio firmware is.
(I know it can't be this easy, but...) If you can't change it while booted into Android, then wouldn't you have to connect the phone to the computer, turn it off, and run an assembly program on it that flips the S flag, provided that you know where it is? Or flash a new radio to it, with a flipped S flag?

orangechoochoo said:
It's not the same. S-on means security is On and you cannot make chanes to the system files while booted in android.
The Cube kernel allows writing to the system while booted in android but it's not the same as S-off though the effect is similar.
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This isn't true. It was a kernel issue that prevented us from writing to the system. This has been resolved with dsbs newest kernel as you said but that had nothing to do with s-on. S-off means we can't write to the parts of our phones that could potentially leave us with sexy paper weights
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M0rtiferrimus said:
So, how do programs like Unrevoked Forever get s-off?
And I haven't heard about the phone's radio, which is apparently where the flag is stored. Can someone explain that to me, or link to an article that does? I'll try to find one in the meantime...
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S-off is like root in the sense that we have parts of the system we can't touch until we achieve such. S-off is different depending on the device because it requires a different exploit. Its a shame Cyanogen doesnt work for HTC instead of Samsung haha.
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Chyrux said:
This isn't true. It was a kernel issue that prevented us from writing to the system. This has been resolved with dsbs newest kernel as you said but that had nothing to do with s-on. S-off means we can't write to the parts of our phones that could potentially leave us with sexy paper weights
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S-off is like root in the sense that we have parts of the system we can't touch until we achieve such. S-off is different depending on the device because it requires a different exploit. Its a shame Cyanogen doesnt work for HTC instead of Samsung haha.
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That's where I'm confused. I've only dealt with Moto phones that have locked bootloaders. Once rooted and the bootloader is circumvented we could install any Rom as long as a developer ported one over . With the S thing, I'm not 100% clear on it even though I've read a few articles on it, and now a kernel was made that allows writing to the system while booted there is an additional wrinkle to my comprehension of all this.

How do you find an exploit in the radio? Is the code in it ever readable to the user?

orangechoochoo said:
That's where I'm confused. I've only dealt with Moto phones that have locked bootloaders. Once rooted and the bootloader is circumvented we could install any Rom as long as a developer ported one over . With the S thing, I'm not 100% clear on it even though I've read a few articles on it, and now a kernel was made that allows writing to the system while booted there is an additional wrinkle to my comprehension of all this.
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The s on/s off status if your phone doesn't effect roms at all. Just deeper level stuff.
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orangechoochoo said:
That's where I'm confused. I've only dealt with Moto phones that have locked bootloaders. Once rooted and the bootloader is circumvented we could install any Rom as long as a developer ported one over . With the S thing, I'm not 100% clear on it even though I've read a few articles on it, and now a kernel was made that allows writing to the system while booted there is an additional wrinkle to my comprehension of all this.
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I understand lol. I've owned three HTC phones and can attest that that's not how s-on usually works. That's why it was never really that bad because you still had a lot of control over your phone.
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Unstable Temp Root.

Who here feels exhausted the way I do about the unstable temp root that doesn't last very long. How far is teamwin from achieving permanent root?
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It'll be done when its done..I appreciate their progress and their efforts..They busted down the wall,now they will clean up the mess..Temp root isn't for me and I knew this coming in..I know there is progress being made and that's all I care about at the moment.
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BrianBaker said:
It'll be done when its done..I appreciate their progress and their efforts..They busted down the wall,now they will clean up the mess..Temp root isn't for me and I knew this coming in..I know there is progress being made and that's all I care about at the moment.
Sent from that EVO3D Thingy...I need an asprin.
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I mean I absolutely understand the exploit they has accomplished and putting out a temp Root. Thank you for that by the way. I just want root already. There were so many things that I was doing with Og Evo. I just want that back.
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aFoodStampBaby said:
I mean I absolutely understand the exploit they has accomplished and putting out a temp Root. Thank you for that by the way. I just want root already. There were so many things that I was doing with Og Evo. I just want that back.
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Personally, I wouldn't rely on the EVO3D forum to stay abreast on news about rooting or anything. a certain Mod killed the developers desire to stick around here.
head over to the Sensation area, and you'll find that people have found ways to make the root stick 100% until actual reboot occurs and so on. that is where I'm staying up to date.
My temp root lasts until I reboot. I used the script found in the developers section and so far I've maintained root all day. At least, Titanium Backup works everytime I fire it up.
Damn you fools are impatient huh? lol
DozeBeatS said:
Damn you fools are impatient huh? lol
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Big time!! We had temp root and word of a coming permanent root within a week of release. These devs are working hard and fast. Let's not forget these people also have personal lives outside of messing around with a phone.....
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This technically should not be called "Temp Root", in a traditional sense.
Perhaps "Momentary Root"
I would be satisfied with the Traditional Temp root since 99% of my need for it is just to run Hot Spot and I don't care if it's a few clicks.
mswlogo said:
This technically should not be called "Temp Root", in a traditional sense.
Perhaps "Momentary Root"
I would be satisfied with the Traditional Temp root since 99% of my need for it is just to run Hot Spot and I don't care if it's a few clicks.
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You can always use pdanet for now.
Wht happen to unreovled did they give up
I didn't bother with temp root, not for me.
I do watch the sensation forum for real info due to the douche bag that ruined the chance to watch progress here.
I haven't really messed with it too much either. I'm just happy to see the progress coming so quickly. I thought it would be a while before we saw anything resembling root.
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considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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issafram said:
considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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I doubt HTC will beat them... And they want the best user experience and simplicity vs fast release, less features, and not user friendly (for dem noobletz)
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issafram said:
considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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Our bootloader is still write protected......So, even though we have the eng. loader from the early system dump, it still can't be flashed over the one that we have without cracking the write protection first.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Our bootloader is still write protected......So, even though we have the eng. loader from the early system dump, it still can't be flashed over the one that we have without cracking the write protection first.
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That is interesting. Because root should allow you to change permissions. Getting temp root was the last hurdle at one point in xhausx's thread in the dev forum and the irc chats. Unless this "temp root" is really limited? I dunno
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issafram said:
That is interesting. Because root should allow you to change permissions. Getting temp root was the last hurdle at one point in xhausx's thread in the dev forum and the irc chats. Unless this "temp root" is really limited? I dunno
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That was my understanding as well based on other android phones, however it seems HTC has substantially changed the design of the phone. I have followed a few of the developement threads, post for post since their inceptions and it turns out this is something entirely new that our devs are having to deal with. Sorry I can't find a link to where it was referenced......If someone could and post it that would be great.
Found it. This is copy & pasted from RVDigital's Faq sheet in the developement section:
What about S-OFF?
20:10 <@agrabren> Short of "where are we at for s-off".
20:10 <@joshua_> Sure. This device is eMMC, and also has a signed bootloaer. This means that S-OFF is a ways further out than just soft root.
20:11 <@joshua_> I can answer from my experience working closely with the AlphaRev X team that S-OFF on Sensation is goign to be harder than previous devices we've worked with.
20:11 <@joshua_> I think EVO 3D is very similar to Sensation, so I suspect the same to be true there.
20:11 <@joshua_> Someone asked me what eMMC is: Older phones (EVO 4G) are based on NAND flash; eMMC is a different type of flash.
20:12 <@joshua_> eMMC has different types of write protection that we haven't worked with before.
20:12 <@agrabren> And we plan to work together to solve some of these issues.
20:14 <@joshua_> (We've all been working pretty closely on this, including scotty.)
20:14 <@agrabren> you think this particular exploit will eventually lead to s-off, or is it too early to tell?
20:14 <@agrabren> (Sending this one to joshua_
20:15 <@joshua_> agrabren, the AlphaRevX exploit requires userspace root, and that was one of the big things holding it back on gbread
20:22 <@agrabren> Joshua: whats the difference between unlocked and s-off?
20:22 <@joshua_> S-OFF, unlocked, etc are fuzzy terms, especially now that we are on eMMC.
20:23 <@joshua_> S-OFF used to refer to a specific configuration in which the radio told hboot that it was "OK" to flash anything it wanted, essentially.
20:23 <@joshua_> (It also would refer to an ENG hboot.)
20:23 <@joshua_> On eMMC, that state no longer exists.
20:24 <@joshua_> unlocked is not really a term that applies to CDMA phones; in general, it refers to the ability to put a SIM card from a differnet carrier into your phone. the "NAND lock", or write protection, or anything like that does apply, and refers to being able to write /system
20:24 <@joshua_> (I think that's needed for Cyanogen.)
Team Win seemed pretty confident about releasing s-off to the masses or whatever. They made temp root sound like it ****s up your phone at one point. I hate having to use an exploit when ****ing htc can just release it to us in an official ota. I dont understand why they are waiting. Bunch of **** suckers. I really wish Team Win didnt tell everyone they had temp root so that HTC would still have more pressure on them. DONT FLAME BECAUSE OF MY OPINION!
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issafram said:
considering that haus has a ENG bootloader, why doesn't he just get temp root, then flash it onto the phone? They would have S-OFF.
I think all this time is being spent on a custom recovery made by Team Win that is supposedly packed with features. That is great and all....but I would prefer a faster release with less recovery features initially...before HTC beats them to the finish line.
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IMHO you should code one yourself or stop complaining
E3D

[Q] Can the DNA be rooted without being unlocked?

Is rooting completely out now, even thought the boot loader is locked? Specifically, on other phones I've seen instances where a phone could be rooted even without being unlocked. Is that possible on the DNA now, after the update?
Thanks!
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
munchy_cool said:
after 2.04 and 2.06 nopes
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is it possible to put a huge red banner right where the advertisements are in this forum that reads "NO ROOT FOR 2.04" lol
Lol
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That's not a bad idea... No where does it make it real clear if its just unlocking the BL or rooting too. Especially since a lot locked BL phones can be. A lot of people don't give a crap about unlocking only rooting.
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Lol I understand. Really unless someone leaks an unlocked bootloader I don't see it happening quickly. With that said how impossible will kexec be lol. We got an unlocked bootloader on the gs3 thanks to a leak. The s3 had quite a few devs working on the bootloader when lucked up on the leak. It's just more realistic to use kexec for a software solution. JTAG sounds great but I don't see it being super popular.
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Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
Phaded said:
Technically yes. But without the unlocked bootloader and direct write access to a partition (forget which...) it's only temporary and utterly pointless for what a user would need.
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It worked on the gs3 with locked bootloader. It wasn't temp. I believe it is possible. Basically you boot into a second unsecure system after booting into the stock secure system.
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Somewhere on the forums beaups states why it won't work. Too lazy to search...

Stupid Questions Thread- No Question too stupid! I promise!

All credit goes to Shadyace80 at AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 for starting this.
This thread is for those who have what they may feel is a stupid or simple question. Please read through the thread and use the search first. I know Google doesn't always like to make it easy to find answers, so lets work together to give answers where we can. And please remember you will be reported for flaming others.
Remember, the only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask.
colemac said:
All credit goes to Shadyace80 at AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 for starting this.
This thread is for those who have what they may feel is a stupid or simple question. Please read through the thread and use the search first. I know Google doesn't always like to make it easy to find answers, so lets work together to give answers where we can. And please remember you will be reported for flaming others.
Remember, the only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask.
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I feel like a better title for this thread would be beginner or "noob" thread since many people feel their questions aren't stupid even if they are. Just a suggestion
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colemac said:
All credit goes to Shadyace80 at AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 for starting this.
This thread is for those who have what they may feel is a stupid or simple question. Please read through the thread and use the search first. I know Google doesn't always like to make it easy to find answers, so lets work together to give answers where we can. And please remember you will be reported for flaming others.
Remember, the only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask.
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If I unlocked my bootloader is that enough to get the updates direct from HTC? or do I need to get a unlock code from ATT? or would I have had to buy a unlocked one straight from HTC?
First post! Thanks for starting a stupid question thread!
@ the poster above me, from what I've read so far, any unlocking of the bootloader will disable the OTA HTC updates. But I might have misread, I'm just learning about all this too and have read way too many pages of posts already. I'm sure someone in the know will chime in to confirm.
Now, my turn! I Just switched from iPhone to the HTC one and have really started considering flashing cleanRom 2.5. I have a kindle fire that I managed to root and get jelly bean on, so I'm not a total noob, but I wanna ask a few noob questions. Here goes:
I have spent a long time getting my phone setup the way I like it and when I flash cleanrom, is there a way to carry over the apps and things I've installed? No biggie if not, but I've got some saved game data on here already and some other stuff I'd rather not lose if there was an easy way to save. And is everything working correctly in the cleanrom to where I can still make zoes and use the camera, gallery, etc?
Also, any tips for getting this thing rooted? I was planning on downloading that "noob-proof" toolkit and going from there. I've read about people getting freezes and install issues using twrp, which scares me a bit because I have no idea what that other thing is (starts with a c) that people are using. and I read something Scott said that you should never do a system wipe or you could lose your backup?? I know I used to wipe the system, cache, and something else when I rooted my kindle but I never tried to go back to stock or even look to see if I had a backup file somewhere. maybe if there's a step by step guide you could point me to that I might have missed?
Thanks for the help, I'm glad I joined the forum!
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No, unlocking the bootloader won't allow that. If we get s-off then changing the cid and flashing a stock developer edition Rom with a relocked bootloader should allow that if one so desired.
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There is no "easy" way perse' to back that stuff up and carry over. There is a way I saw sometime back to root without unlocking the bootloader. Theoretically one could do that and use titanium backup... But I don't really know if it will save your game progress... And you will have to offload your titanium backup data to a computer or something before unlocking the bootloader because it will erase everything. The thing about not wiping system came about because of all the problems people have been having with aroma freezing. Some people seem to have it worse then others but the idea is if aroma screws up over and over you still have an os to boot into. I personally (cross my fingers) have had little trouble with that (maybe 1 freeze or 2 then it runs through all the way). I'd suggest leaving the system folder alone until you know how your phone reacts to aroma installs.
viperlox said:
No, unlocking the bootloader won't allow that. If we get s-off then changing the cid and flashing a stock developer edition Rom with a relocked bootloader should allow that if one so desired.
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There is no "easy" way perse' to back that stuff up and carry over. There is a way I saw sometime back to root without unlocking the bootloader. Theoretically one could do that and use titanium backup... But I don't really know if it will save your game progress... And you will have to offload your titanium backup data to a computer or something before unlocking the bootloader because it will erase everything. The thing about not wiping system came about because of all the problems people have been having with aroma freezing. Some people seem to have it worse then others but the idea is if aroma screws up over and over you still have an os to boot into. I personally (cross my fingers) have had little trouble with that (maybe 1 freeze or 2 then it runs through all the way). I'd suggest leaving the system folder alone until you know how your phone reacts to aroma installs.
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Good to know, would it effect anything if i got a unlock code? Also if i were to reflash the 1.26 RUU could i then grab them using the update in the menu section that is not labled att update?
Can I flash roms from other HTC one carriers?
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Not sure about the unlock code but I suspect it would only be a SIM unlock to use on other carriers. Not sure it changes the cid. The other software update your talking about won't grab firmware updates from HTC... There was a software update pushed through that recently for the HTC media thing I read it was so media sharing could be turned on without having mobile hotspot activated.
Driggity420 said:
Can I flash roms from other HTC one carriers?
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Except for Sprint and dual SIM Chinese models,yes.
This also should get stickied lol
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Nick281051 said:
This also should get stickied lol
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Yes it should. Who is able to do that?
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Yes it should. Who is able to do that?
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The mods
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Hi! I´ve noticed that there´s one forum for the HTC ONE and another for the AT&T HTC ONE, I´ve checked the descritpion of both models and seems to be the same thing, what is the difference?, Can I flash HTC One roms on my At&t Htc One???
ferluci said:
Hi! I´ve noticed that there´s one forum for the HTC ONE and another for the AT&T HTC ONE, I´ve checked the descritpion of both models and seems to be the same thing, what is the difference?, Can I flash HTC One roms on my At&t Htc One???
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Yes you can. I'm using Trickdroid currently, and my HTC One is an ATT version.
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Yes you can. I'm using Trickdroid currently, and my HTC One is an ATT version.
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OK! Thank you, Trickdroid is the one I wanted to flash!. :good:
I am unable to see flags in outlook when I flag message in email for exchange. I used to use touchdown but I like the native app on here..Does anyone know what setting needs to be changed so the flag will sync with my outlook.
Thanks in advance,
Root Help
I am having some issues rooting my phone.
I unlocked my bootloader successfully on the HTCdev site
I created a folder on my desktop called android, the folder has the fastboot application and "twrp.img" file
i boot my phone into fastboot (? sorry 100% new to this not sure if i said that correctly)
connect usb cable
command prompt cd desktop\android
then ....android>fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
then it reads...
C:\Users\Owner\Desktop\ANDROID>fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
error: cannot load 'twrp.img': Unknown error
Im not sure what im doing wrong, its probably something very stupid. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Probably a bad download of twrp
I did a back up and want to know if I need to flash the boot img and what I need to get the latest update?
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Obie911 said:
I did a back up and want to know if I need to flash the boot img and what I need to get the latest update?
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Afaik you don't need to flash a boot.img on this phone at all
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[Q] s-off on Hboot 2.49 firewater problem

Hi, this will be my first post but ive been a member for a while just never had a problem big enough to create a post till now. so this is my second max the first one was on 4.3 and rumrunner did the trick, but I have been reading almost every thread that had to do with s-off of hboot 2.49, i read about going to old drivers switching ports and cables basically did everything. I am on verizon and have temp root with weaksauce and have root but when firewater runs and its start chugging it either chugs one or two and then returns to the command line, one time it kept chugging to bottle 11(figured it was on a loop) so thats where i am at any guidance would be much appreciated. btw, i tried using the firewater temp root but i get a failed getting root so cant go on from there, just thought id share that.
By temp root, do you mean weaksauce?
Edit: reread and I see that you do. Sometimes these things just work randomly, I'd just keep trying. Maybe post a screenshot of exactly what your PC screen looks like when trying with weaksauce root?
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Yes its a very confusing mystery to me
I hear ya. I'm looking at getting this phone myself and want to make sure I can get s-off lol. Let me know if you have any success if you don't mind.
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misterk267 said:
I hear ya. I'm looking at getting this phone myself and want to make sure I can get s-off lol. Let me know if you have any success if you don't mind.
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I will, theres a lot of pople that have used firewater and it works i just might be one of those special cases, but keep watching this thread hopefully someone will get me on he right track
I just had an idea. I was reading about weaksauce and it takes about a minute for root to become available after device boot. So, maybe you could try waiting a minute after the part where the device reboots to execute the next command.
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misterk267 said:
I just had an idea. I was reading about weaksauce and it takes about a minute for root to become available after device boot. So, maybe you could try waiting a minute after the part where the device reboots to execute the next command.
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Yea i wait or go in the app and do it my self, i also installed root checker and it shows im rooted, and when im on the step where you ask for su it gives it to me so i dont think its a root issue, to be honest i dont know what it is has me really baffled?
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Yea i wait or go in the app and do it my self, i also installed root checker and it shows im rooted, and when im on the step where you ask for su it gives it to me so i dont think its a root issue, to be honest i dont know what it is has me really baffled?
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Exactly what happens when it fails? Maybe we can figure this out lol
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Also, make sure you are using a USB 2.0 port. People in other forums have reported issues with 3.0.
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lol, ok so my computer has 6 usb ports four 2.0 and 2 for 3.0 i tried at first on 2.0 then reading on people said try using 3.0 then i stopped at 3.0, but when you run firewater it tells you this:
opening first bottle 1
chugging..........
after this it should say you are now s-off and blah blah blah(saw a pic someone put on one thread) what it does to me is:
opening first bottle 1
chugging..........
C:\Users\Desktop\ etc
basically to me means it failed because it went back to command line
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632385&page=17
found a pic almost like that but with the chugging
Strange. It might just not be possible on the latest firmware. Most s-off methods seems to work better if you've already unlocked the bootloader. But with the VZW model, you need to get s-off before unlocking bootloader, which I think might be a big reason why people have so much trouble with vzw s-off. I'm not too familiar with HTC, is there an official way to roll back the firmware without s-off?
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Strange. It might just not be possible on the latest firmware. Most s-off methods seems to work better if you've already unlocked the bootloader. But with the VZW model, you need to get s-off before unlocking bootloader, which I think might be a big reason why people have so much trouble with vzw s-off. I'm not too familiar with HTC, is there an official way to roll back the firmware without s-off?
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i was looking for RUUs but I dont think it might be possible and i dont want to brick it lol, i also tried going to htcdev to unlock but said model not supported , now if i could dp that, that would be great to rollback

Okay to update to 4.4.3 OTA before unlock/root/recovery?

Does anyone know if the OTA 4.4.3 will kill any current methods of unlocking, rooting, flashing, etc in my brand new device? 4.4.2 / 1.58.502.1
Im traveling at the moment (not much time for researching, mistakes) and the battery life isn't all that great, I'd like to see what the OTA brings until I can get in front of a computer (limited to a mac, if it makes a difference) and go to town on this bad boy.
Thanks in advance.
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svntsvn said:
Does anyone know if the OTA 4.4.3 will kill any current methods of unlocking, rooting, flashing, etc in my brand new device? 4.4.2 / 1.58.502.1
Im traveling at the moment (not much time for researching, mistakes) and the battery life isn't all that great, I'd like to see what the OTA brings until I can get in front of a computer (limited to a mac, if it makes a difference) and go to town on this bad boy.
Thanks in advance.
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I unlocked right after the OTA, and root/recovery is always possible after unlocking.
Sorry for posting in the wrong section.
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Is 4.4.3 rolling out for AT&T? I haven't heard of this yet.
firewater s-off has been patched in newer 4.4.3 hboots. Not sure about your present hboot, but I believe firewater will still work on your current setup.
You should still be able to use sunshine to s-off after OTA, but it costs $25.
Bootloader unlock (and therefore flashing ROMs and rooting) are still available if you OTA. S-off is only needed to do certain things. But if you do want s-off, doing so with firewater is something to consider.
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svntsvn said:
Sorry for posting in the wrong section.
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I've reported to mods to move to Q&A

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