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Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
wwfc said:
Hello my fellow nerds.
I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.
Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)
Lumia 800 - £406
Titan - £410
WINNER - Lumia 800
Screen
Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi
Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi
WINNER - Tie
CPU
Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU
WINNER - Titan
Storage
Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)
Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory
WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card
Additional software
Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps
Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera
WINNER - Lumia 800 for me
Camera
Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC
Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP
WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc
Sensors
Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass
Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.
WINNER - Titan
Battery
Lumia 800 - 1450Mah
Titan - 1600Mah
WINNER - Titan
So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.
IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.
What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.
Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
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I would have the Nokia 800 for a try, because i have heard about the beauty of the SAMOLED+ and the Lumia 800 has a 4.3-Inch screen, which is considered as big phone.
But if you want to go for Titan , it is fine too. I have bad experiences with Nokia phones so i don;t really want to use them even i know they are good. Just a personal feeling.
But i think most people would choose the Lumia 800 over Titan, since it has the better design (Higher Eye-Candy level, not sure about Build quality) , for sure a better camera, a better screen with acceptable size.
I just love a massive screen and the 2 -piece of metal design of Titan, that is why i bought it.
The lumia 800 has a 3.7 inch pentile screen. I don't know if the screen in the lumia 900 is a + panel, but the one in the lumia 800 is not.
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Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
For me very is fault on Nokia its construction. On many forums is discussed the creaking housing after a few months of use... On Lumia 800 or N9 with the same construction...
And little display size of course, Titan´s bigger display is fantastic
Lumia 800 has a non-user-replaceable battery,and that's a big -
rob_p said:
Personally I think the Titan wins hands down.
I've had the Titan since November time, and love it. I was sceptical as it's such a big phone, and personally I'd go for 4.3 as the perfect screen / portability size, but less than 4.3 is too small, so the Titan was my only option for a gen 2 phone.
I can't fault it - the screen is brilliant, the build quality is top notch, the performance is faultless. I've played around with the Lumia in stores, and it's a nice phone, but the screen's too small, plain and simple, and without a FFC I just don't see why anyone would buy a gen 1 phone when there are several gen 2 readily available.
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Totally agree. I can't speak to the build quality of the 800 having never seen it, and while I KNOW it's superior to the Titan, that is REALLY hard for me to imagine, because the Titan is solid and beautiful to me!
Well, the Titan has just dropped to £383.99 ($592.07) on Handtec.co.uk. If it was Amazon, clove or expansys i would by now, but I've heard really mixed reviews of Handtec. Some people say its fine, but lots of people say they sent the wrong item or it was damaged or came weeks, sometimes even months late, even after paying for next day delivery. Has anyone here brought their Titan or any other phone on Handtec.co.uk? Cheers.
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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I own both phones, and have run then each for a month.
I came to the end of my Lumia month a few days ago, and I was grateful to get my hands back on the Titan.
The Lumia is a beautiful phone, sure. And it feels great in the hand. The USB port is just wrong, with its little flap and positioned on the top as it is. Audio on the Lumia is dreadful - there is no bottom end at all, either thru the speaker or headphones. Its all mid-hi range with no depth to any music.
And although the deep-black pentile screen on the Lumia looks good at a first glance, the reality is that you will notice the pixelation too often, and compared to the Titan there is a noticeable yellow haze across the screen. Whites are horrible in comparison. Sure, the dpi is less on the Titan, but there is no practical drawback in daily usage, and due to the pentile grid on the Lumia, the Titan actually feels better quality.
The camera on the Titan is also much better, with a ton more options than the Lumia. Lumia is OK for a cameraphone, the Titan surprises with its capability.
One area the Lumia has the edge is its power button - I like it on the side. The Titan is a BIG reach for the power button on top, and it is so flush that sometimes its fiddly to actually press it. Not cool. Why oh why can't all WP makers have the windows button wake up the phone, as LG have done on the Optimus?!
Nokia has tried to bring value with its Drive/Music/Maps apps...but can't say I miss them. gMaps pro does it all, and POIs on google seem to be better and more current. If Nokia shared with Bing maps, it would be a powerful rival, I guess...
Nokia Drive is kind of cool, but really, you can't add/edit POIs, you still need a data connection for routing...if this is your reason for buying the Lumia, go with the Titan and buy Turn-by-Turn instead.
Nokia Music is so-so, nothing that MarketPlace doesn't offer except the gig guide and Mix Radio. Gigs can be searched and Mix Radio...well Spotify anyone? Or even SmartDJ and ZunePass. I guess the advantage of Mix Radio is that it's free but its not a deal breaker for me.
I am still waiting for 8107 updates on both devices, so the jury is out on which has better update support at the moment.
I certainly get more comments on the Lumia's beauty as a design, but people are more overwhelmed with the sheer gargantuan impressiveness of the Titan. I then invite people to try it in the pocket and the reaction is always the same..."wow its like its not even there"...the Titan is so slim, its size is irrelevant.
The Titan battery is far superior to the Lumia. Yeah I am still waiting on "battery fix" from Nokia, but the Titan has it for me, no sweat. I can easily manage a whole day with my usage pattern, whereas the Lumia I need a charger by mid-afternoon. I went away for a weekend and didn't use the phone, but it lasted from 4pm Friday to 7pm Sunday with 20% remaining for calls/txts on the way home. That is what a phone should do!
So yeah, my Mum gets the Lumia, I will keep the Titan
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
wwfc said:
Thanks very much for the comprehensive review of both devices. I just went for it and ordered the Titan for £412 from Handtec Hopefully be here tomorrow (Friday) Going to have to download the BA app and use the phone as a boarding pass for my flight to Orlando in a couple of weeks Thanks again. I look forward to being a part of the Titan boards here on XDA.
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hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
Sihaz said:
hope they send you the right phone. I ordered the titan car kit from handtec a few weeks ago. They sent me the docking cradle and were rubbish trying to sort it out. I ended up cancelling the order but at least they didn't want the cradle back after first insisting I return it at my expense!
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Oh god you've made me nervous now if it's not here by 12pm tomorrow (Which i paid extra on delivery for) then i will not be happy in the slightest. Taking the day off work for the damn thing to arrive.
twisticles said:
I own both phones, and have run then each for a month...
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Thanks a lot. Very useful post!
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Good choice mate. Moving over from android to titan and liking it so far but missing the apps. Still got the sensation XL just in case.
Did it arrive!?
It did! And its f***ing awesome. I love it so far. Camera is great, screen is beautiful, no lag at all (which I had quite a bit of on the omnia 7), very good battery life so far. Its on charge atm so using my galaxy nexus and I have to admit the nexus' screen is far superior, but that's the only thing about it that is. It took ages to download my emails, check my twitter/Facebook/forums and send a few texts. Thanks for everyone's opinions !
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At first, when I heard that a WP8 smartphone was going to have a Pureview camera I was fascinated and excited, but when I saw the results, I think they are laughing at us.
Here I leave the video.
Nokia 808 vs Lumia 920 Night Video Comparison - YouTube
You can see how there is more light, but at the same time less colour contrast, less vivid colours and also unreal colours. Nokia 808 Pureview camera is more close to reality in colours and contrast, as well as in broghtnes. While in Lumia 920 we have more light, Video quality is poorer than the Symbian flagship.
To have the same picture/video quality as with the 808, the 920 would need the same size camera hump. Not viable.
before you trash pureview find out what it is
>< 41mp vs 8.7mp its not really any kind of competition "PureView" refers to nokia camera software therefore they can claim as it uses the same imaging system as the 808. could you imagine the cost of the 808 had the rest of the hardware been up to scratch
I didn't meant to do it in a scene with pretty much light. I meant with a video 1080p (they are just paired at this resolution) during the night and with some few movement, normal for a video) the result is that the 808 won in detail and overpasses the incredible night sensor of the 920 due to the large sensor. I don,t know what you think. But Nokia had to tell us that their Pureview comparison are kind tricky, as they have as winner in night mode Nokia Lumia. But the reality is that the winner is 808
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Well, there's so much to consider about that video. First off, the places are not the same place. That's not a fair comparison. That makes a huge difference as ambient light is a factor. The scene with the 808 had much more vehicle traffic and most likely more light. But even with that in mind, the L920 won't be as good mainly because of the size of he sensor. the 808 sports a 1/1.2" sensor which will beat out every other cell phone camera. There's not much competition between the two. Either way, it beats out having purple haze.
920 is second phase is Pureview, OIS and low-light. 808 is the first phase. There will be more phases... Maybe 1&2 phases together latet?
We thought that Nokia Lumia 920 was the best phone to record in the night, or Nokia told us that it was that. But they haven't done the best work they could. Their flagship, Nokia 808 Pureview, is recording better during the night. It's a pitty that Nokia starts to cheat since the very first Nokia 920 video. The super reflex camera to capture the supose Lumia 920 videos + this is amazing. Although is the best WP8 to buy, if you think it as a camera phone is better the iPhone 5 in daylight, equal in afternoon and inside and slightly better during the night.
Some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cPm20esQYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4CeHt04xQ
The Nokia video you are talking about was misunderstood and the blown out of proportion. The goal of the video was to demonstrate the benefit of the Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) technology, not the phone itself. If anything, Nokia can be chastised for not putting a disclaimer making that unambiguous.
It is indeed tricky to compare the 920 with the 808 esp since they are both called "Pureview". But, the key difference between the two is that the 920 has OIS (which the 808 doesn't) and the 808 have a much higher MP.
I dont think anyone ever claimed that the 920 was a better camera than the 808... you'd have to be crazy to think so
it does take low light pics easier than the 808 but if you had rock solid steady hands or a mini tripod you could mitigate the advantage
as for the "fiasco" i agree i was a bit appalled that nokia stooped to competitor strategies but they did come out with actual footage from the 920 which showcased the OIS just as well and so have users (check out some nokia blogs)
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I dont think anyone ever claimed that the 920 was a better camera than the 808... you'd have to be crazy to think so
it does take low light pics easier than the 808 but if you had rock solid steady hands or a mini tripod you could mitigate the advantage
as for the "fiasco" i agree i was a bit appalled that nokia stooped to competitor strategies but they did come out with actual footage from the 920 which showcased the OIS just as well and so have users (check out some nokia blogs)
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I think you are mistaken. Nokia did show us the Lumia 920 as the best camera in low light conditions on a phone. That is not true and I think this reviews are good because maybe you know 808 is better camera in all ways, but some people are interested and doesn't know it.
Hello. Monday I bring the lumia 920, I read in many forums that lasts almost anything, that's true, how hard you to you with normal use and moderate? come from a hox and lasted a whole day without problems.
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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i seriously didnt get this ??
LOL "the camera is a little disappointing"
did you see cameras from other phones??? for me Lumia 920 have best camera (if not count 925 or 1020 and pureview 808)
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Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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Are you serious. The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them. Until the other two newer Lumias got released this camera was the best on the market for a phone. It's best ability is low light however. There is no other phone that can take pics in the low light levels this phone does.
Gnarfsan said:
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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He probably meant from his expectations, since the camera on the Lumia 920 was touted so highly. I have one, and TBH it's a great camera, especially given that it's on a mobile phone, but not mindblowingly game changing.
aaki_rocker said:
i seriously didnt get this ??
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I come from a Galaxy Note 2.
What I don't like about the Lumia 920 camera:
It does not meassure light properly where I click. It only focusses unlike the Note 2 and the iPhone. I get a lot of pictures of people with dark faces, which has never been a problem on my previous phones.
It's incredibly slow compared to the Note 2, which is almost instant.
The pictures lack contrast, and often look slightly out of focus.
I had expected it to be at least on par with the Note 2 (which has the same camera as the GS3)
These are my experiences with the stock camera app. I can't wait to try the Pro Cam app though.
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The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them.
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Can you share a link or something? Because in all the reviews that I have read, noone have compared it to a SLR. In fact, many of them have been disappointed with the daylight performance when compared to other flagship phones launched that fall.
The only times I have seen a anyone comming up with a statement remotely like yours is when testing the Nokia 808 or the Lumia 1020.
Edit: To back up these wild claims:
DP Review:
Unfortunately, the 920’s daylight performance is only OK. There’s at least as much noise as much of the competition, if not more. So much engineering has clearly gone into the 920’s camera unit that we’d hope for class-leading sensor performance, but it seems to be middle of the pack.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9128863653/nokia-lumia-920-camera-review-first-look
The Verge:
To most eyes, the images look a little washed out and don’t "pop," with not enough warm tones.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584486/nokia-lumia-920-review
Slashgear:
with bonus comparison to the Samsung Galaxy S III and see how diverse the photos can be. These color variations as well as the end result of photos that with one device appear to be much sharper than the Lumia 920 mean that we’ve got software at work here that attempts to create for you a finished image
http://www.slashgear.com/att-nokia-lumia-920-review-03255516/
Techno Buffalo:
Overall, it’s comparable to the iPhone 5 camera, but I prefer the iPhone 5 because it generally offered sharper photos.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Engadget:
but that performance has somehow cost your well-lit images a degree of detail you might not want to give up.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Pocketnow:
It’s pretty clear that the Lumia 920′s image sensor is nothing special, as it looks just about the same as the lower-end Lumia 810.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/15/nokia-lumia-920-review-att
Last weekend my Galaxy S III was stolen, and I had to buy a new phone asap. With a little time to think it through I took a chance with Lumia 920 and I can confirm that, in every aspect, Galaxy S III makes better daily photos. However, Lumia 920 supposed to shine in low-light segment, but unfortunately didn't have time to test that. Overall, so far good phone experience.
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
Carl Zeiss does have a big name in camera lenses.
Edit; Lol I'm getting a bit of topic I see, as topic started about the battery.
Laurentius26 said:
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
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Laurentius26 said:
I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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Hi,
With amber update and nokia pro cam focus is better and measures light more correct than before it.
Hi,
I've made some test shots today after this discussion (I just bought my Lumia a couple of days ago) with the Pro cam on Amber and yes pictures are pretty sharp.
But to be honest I'm a bit dissapointed about the noise in the pictures.
I think the standard camera does make better quality pictures (after some later tests but I still need to test more) and you can set ISO there as well.
Light is sometimes correct but not always.
Attached a sample picture I took today On amber update and nokia Pro cam set to ISO 100 (f/2.0 and shutter 1/1600 sec are set automatic).
On original image size you see the noise, which shouldn't be there at all on bright daylight.
boril said:
Hi,
With amber update and nokia Pro cam focus does look ok.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
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Laurentius26 said:
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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Same here. Basically it drains very little battery while it's not in use. Even on LTE.
Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
randy_c said:
Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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It sounds faulty For how have you had it?
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
ipmanwck said:
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
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Even my 15 yo pc webcam can do better low light than lumia 920. At lower resolution and quality obviosly. For better low light its simple as tweak the cam app to autoregulate the capture brighter. Don't know why that was so easy 15 years ago, and now that seems impossible.
ipmanwck said:
As the title indicates the 920 is amazing in low light and almost no light. I am curious why the more recent handsets like 1520, 930 and 830 still can't beat the low light photos of the 920. Even the 1020 is sometimes worst in low light.
I am currently using a z2 but managed to pick up a 920 for £50 just so I can use the camera as was disappointed with the 930 camera.
Any thoughts on why it's so good please reply especially if anyone knows what the software is doing.
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The answer lies in sensor size. The lumia 920 has a 1/3.2" sensor while the 930 has a smaller 1/2.51" sensor.
A bigger sensor means more light can enter but can also mean that shots will be overexposed (too bright) at some point.
The 930 on the other hand probably does better in terms of daylight shots and speed with Rich Capture being another plus point.
but, the math says that 1/2.51" is obviously greater than 1/3.2"
The 930's camera has been pretty poor since WM10. It was great in well lit shots with denim though.
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Vsmh said:
The answer lies in sensor size. The lumia 920 has a 1/3.2" sensor while the 930 has a smaller 1/2.51" sensor.
A bigger sensor means more light can enter but can also mean that shots will be overexposed (too bright) at some point.
The 930 on the other hand probably does better in terms of daylight shots and speed with Rich Capture being another plus point.
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The sensor of the Lumia 930 (and 929=Icon and 1520) is not only much bigger, but has more pixels.
It takes better pictures in every situation. The sensor is also more modern.
These Lumia phones have an Optical Image recognition System (OIS):
920,925,928, 1020, 830,929,930,1520, 950,950 XL (and the upcoming [in 2017] "Surface Phone") & (the old prototype "McLaren")
so that they remove the small vibrations of your hand(s) allowing a longer exposure time =>
better pictures - especially at low light situations