Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
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Ok heres the dilemma. - Please can you check my though process here......
Ultimately its a Galaxy Tab vs Nexus 10 question but before you all yawn, for the purpose of this comparison, lets ignore which tablet is better in every respect except sending the screen to a TV in the room.
I'm figuring out a solution for a company with 5 meeting rooms in new premises. They have all their content on Google Mail / Drive and want to present to customers or have internal meetings and look up mails / watch Youtube videos / have video conference meetings on Hangout / Skype. They want to 'upgrade' from a desktop PC linked to a wall mounted TV. They want to buy cheap LCD TVs. The rooms all have a wall mounted power socket and ethernet port and wifi in the room. All directors have Samsung Galaxy 3S phones and all staff are being encouraged to move to this phone.
[I started by buying and testing one of those mini-android HDMI sticks but there are loads of security issues. This is a non starter. The Apps administrator has banned these devices. I can detail the security issue in another post if anyone wants to know.]
I have settled on a tablet solution. Its portable, secure and cheap.
Here is the problem...
If I go with Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 then I get Allshare Cast. This means with a cheap dongle available now, I can retrofit a cheap TV and get pretty good screen share.
If I go with Nexus 10 I get Android 4.2 with multiple share, and Miracast but I am worried Miracast is gonna be like WiFi N where its not really available for another year or so. I cant find a dongle that is actually for sale and I saw a review on the Nexus 10 which said that Miracast is not on the device even though the OS support it.
I was wondering if I could get 'Allshare Cast' working on the Nexus as a stopgap until Miracast works?
Alternatively, I get the Galaxy tab now and then upgrade to Jellybean 4.2 in due course?
Last question... Will Samsung Galaxy 3S phone be able to send to Miracast screens via the Allshare Cast function. (will Miracast support All Share cast)?
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This Galaxy Tab 10.1 (first gen) does not have Allshare Cast and will not be getting Jellybean. Need to ask your question in the right forum.
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I disparately want TV out features on my Samsung Galaxy ACE.
Has anyone tried getting TV out from Samsung Galaxy Ace??
I have come across many ways of doing this like :-
3.5 mm to RCA (nokia cable) or
Mini Usb(newer version ) to male Hdmi
there is no option of TV out in its original firmware but i am pretty much sure "Qualcom 7227 Chipset" does support TV OUT, But for some reason the samsung has not written the Code/driver etc for this purpose,,
As far as i know Only a pro developer will be able to pull this off, who will be able to create a custom ROM which would have the TV out feature like Galaxy S.
Till then i will have wait and watch,
hey i want to have the same thing, and i was so sure that i have seen a rom with this feature. but i can't find it anywhere -.- i used google and i tried the forum search.. finally i'm angry
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I disparately want TV out features on my Samsung Galaxy ACE.
Has anyone tried getting TV out from Samsung Galaxy Ace??
I have come across many ways of doing this like :-
3.5 mm to RCA (nokia cable) or
Mini Usb(newer version ) to male Hdmi
there is no option of TV out in its original firmware but i am pretty much sure "Qualcom 7227 Chipset" does support TV OUT, But for some reason the samsung has not written the Code/driver etc for this purpose,,
As far as i know Only a pro developer will be able to pull this off, who will be able to create a custom ROM which would have the TV out feature like Galaxy S.
Till then i will have wait and watch,
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this requieres hardware support for the TV out. And i don't think samsung added that to the ace cause this feature is not used. Just that the chipset supports it is not enough.
Galaxy ACE supports DLNA. If your TV is a DLNA certified, you can use this technology to have TV output wirelessly.
i know it has dlna .. but i want TV out somehow... if some app could it!!
or am just dreaming .... i better buy a new phone.
Well I guess it wouldn't exactly be TV Out (RGBA/Component) but you could probably hook up your phone to a laptop in Debug Mode and use ADB to show its screen on your laptop. Then you could hook your laptop up to a television. Complicated, but gets the job done.
There was a thread like this one already, some1 posted a vid that the Ace could successfully TV out. The dev said that it could harm the processor or something, so he stopped developing.
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c7PG7AL4Jw
The original Galaxy S has this feature any developer knowledgeable in this area and able to port it from the Galaxy S... new kernel maybe?
it will cause gpu burning of aceeee
I agree with cpu burning. The same like what do not runs Screen cast app on ace... because the hardware is not to strong for this...
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 that I purchased last year. There's been a lot of talk (last fracking year) about Miracast, WiDi, and how great it will be to mirror my device. Here we are in May 2013, and the tech is still garbage or non-exstent. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me. Here's the scenario:
My family (like many of yours) is completely perplexed by the function of a TV remote's "Input" button. Once they have to change the input on the TV, all hell breaks loose and I end up having to "fix" everything by pressing the input button to get the TV to the right input again. My family currently owns 2 iPhones, an iPad, and an iPod. I built a Windows 7 Media Center PC with a 5.1 speaker system that we use as our cable receiver, 3D Blu-ray player, media streamer, music player, and AppleTV receiver. Since everything is built into that one box, no one has to change an input, and all is harmonious. The main focus is the AppleTV receiver feature, which is accomplished using a program called AirServer. It's great because anyone can click on the Airplay button on their iDevice and a window automatically pops up on the PC, maximizes, and mirrors the iDevice. No changing inputs. Great, right?
I, however, have a Galaxy Note 2, and the one feature I desperately want is garbage on this device: mirroring. I don't want to stream something through DLNA (because only a limited amount of files/formats/apps support it). I don't want another box sucking up power and requiring me to switch inputs on both my TV and speaker system. All I want is to mirror my device to my PC in the same manner that Airserver lets me mirror an iDevice on my PC. So far, this seems bleak and far-fetched. There are no PC software options to mirror my Android device onto a PC. Besides, even if I were to buy a dongle, the Samsung Allshare Cast dongle is quite possibly the most infuriating piece of crap I've ever used. It stutters, pixelates, and puts my audio/video so far out of synch that it's useless. On top of it all, my Wifi (for internet, on the Note 2) disconnects when using Miracast/WiDi. I tried the Netgear PTV3000, which is also a stuttering, unreliable mess of a device. I'm also not going to root my device. It's 2013, and I shouldn't have to sacrifice receiving OTA updates because Google dropped the ball.
So here's the question: is there a way to mirror my Android device on a PC without rooting or buying another box/dongle? I'd like to keep my Android phone, but I'm switching back to Apple if September rolls around and I'm still going through this. I'm not a fan of the company, but Airplay mirroring just works. No downloading 20 video players and 6 codec packs. No out-of-synch issues with audio. No dropped WiFi. No family members complaining that they "broke" the tv because it's on the wrong input. I want all that on my Android phone.
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Then I would just go back to apple. As this feature will always be manufacturer spicific so you will have to do it the way that OEM requires and alot of android things will never play well with anything apple. Mainly not Samsung.
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zelendel said:
Then I would just go back to apple. As this feature will always be manufacturer spicific so you will have to do it the way that OEM requires and alot of android things will never play well with anything apple. Mainly not Samsung.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Yup, it sure seems that way. Samsung stuff only seems to work with other Samsung products. My options are that crappy dongle they make or buy a $1500 TV just to mirror my phone. No thanks.
My biggest complaint about Apple now is the damn lightning connector. I get why they made the 30-pin dock connector when they did, but Micro USB has been around for a while and has the bandwidth to handle everything going in and out of that phone. Making another proprietary connector was just a huge slap in the face to consumers everywhere.
I had a convergence idea (that i'm sure others have had in the past) about using an atrix 4g laptop dock (via mhl to hdmi) on my galaxy note. I'm running cm10 (4.1.2) with ubuntu installed experimentally, but I would really like to get xwindows working on the video out on my note instead of just a mirror of what' on my phone's display (sort of like the atrix demonstration of cannonical's ubuntu for android) the sad part is that I haven't the foggiest about how to bind an xserver to the video out and then how to disable the bluetooth input to android and enable it on that xserver... if cannonical can do it with an atrix, i'd imagine we should be able to do it on a note...
just kicking around some ideas. if anyone has any idea as to how to go about this, or has additional ideas and information related, i'd be interested. I'm very interested in mobile phone / notebook / desktop convergence and would love to see something this this in action in my hand.
now that atrix laptop docks (which are really just hdmi displays / speakers and usb keyboards that power for 8 hours) are $50 on ebay it seems like the time is right...
Beat me to the post I was going post a similar idea as well today. Only I have no interest in using the pad dock. Just "ubuntu" video out activated on mhl input.
I was wondering if anyone is using the N9 for presentations like PowerPoint? I have found that the N9 does not support Mircast or hardwire connections to projectors and I am completely taken back by this. I would never have expected this from Google, especially since they marked the N9 as a productivity tool.
I was using my Samsung Note 10.1 but it is stuck on 4.1.4 or something like that I have not rooted obviously. But it casts to Mircast and it own Samsung cast system. The problem is that it can not take advantage of the new PPT apps like the upgrade Polaris. You need at least 4.2.
So now I have a great device that can use the office apps (the real office is come soon for free) and I can not project.
Anyone have some uplifting thoughts on this?
dave
do a search for "Chromecast without WiFi" I could swear I read something recently that will let you cast directly to the CC. also.. you could consider one of the travel router options that let you have your own local firewalled WiFi setups/repeaters.. run about 40$. I'm already looking into them and will report back what I find.
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I actually put in a couple of chromecasts to the TV screens at work for this purpose. wish google came up with an offline feature for stuff like this.
I have tried several times to connect smart view to my TV with both my new Galaxy note 8 as well as my wife's. It appears Samsung has put a block on it so true mirroring is no longer possible but selected files can be used through Samsung connect or other 3rd party apps.
Does anybody have any ideas on how to get this to work properly as my older devices do?
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I have tried several times to connect smart view to my TV with both my new Galaxy note 8 as well as my wife's. It appears Samsung has put a block on it so true mirroring is no longer possible but selected files can be used through Samsung connect or other 3rd party apps.
Does anybody have any ideas on how to get this to work properly as my older devices do?
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I have a Samsung 55in 4k tv and just found this feature today. I was able to cast what was on my tv back to my phone. It was pretty cool.
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Was able to cast my note8 screen to the 1st gen and 2nd gen Chromecast, as well as a Samsung WiFi TV. Have not tried it on the Nexus Player yet. Will update with results
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Try resetting your display resolution to FHD+. That's what I had to do
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Try resetting your display resolution to FHD+. That's what I had to do
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Wow that actually worked!
Thanks for the info.
I appreciate your input but FHD+ is my default setting for my display And that's what I keep it on unless I'm using VR gear.
I was on the phone with a Samsung representative for 45 minutes and they could not figure it out. She said I should have true Screen Mirroring but no matter what we tried it would not work unless we used a 3rd party app . And then it's not true mirroring , it's just selected media share.
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I appreciate your input but FHD+ is my default setting for my display And that's what I keep it on unless I'm using VR gear.
I was on the phone with a Samsung representative for 45 minutes and they could not figure it out. She said I should have true Screen Mirroring but no matter what we tried it would not work unless we used a 3rd party app . And then it's not true mirroring , it's just selected media share.
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Try removing the 3rd party casting apps. I had AllCast installed on my S8+ and that turned out to be the problem.
Been there, done that.
I removed all 3rd party apps till there was nothing left but to hit the mirroring button in the drop down menu and this did not help
were you able to find out the solution to your problem? I am facing the same problem and have tried the solutions mentioned in this thread. It does not work for me . Any help is appreciated.
Samsung givith and takith away.
Samsung is becoming more like apple everyday with proprietary software. My older Samsung devices work on everything. The Note 8 and I would assume the same would be for the S8 and S8 Plus will only do true screen mirroring with Samsung devices. I remembered that my Blu-ray player which is Samsung is also Wireless and will do mirroring and it worked just fine. Then I tried it on a flat panel 2017 Samsung TV and again it worked just fine but go to any other brand or older TV and you have to use third-party software which does not do true screen mirroring. In your settings on any older phone you will have a setting for mirroring in the Advanced connections. But if you look in the settings for the Note 8 the only mirroring setting you find is for a USB connection to your car. Samsung is more and more making it impossible to connect to anything easily but their own devices.
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Try removing the 3rd party casting apps. I had AllCast installed on my S8+ and that turned out to be the problem.
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I removed all 3rd party apps till there was nothing left but to hit the mirroring button in the drop down menu and this did not help
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mark3wolves said:
Samsung is becoming more like apple everyday with proprietary software. My older Samsung devices work on everything. The Note 8 and I would assume the same would be for the S8 and S8 Plus will only do true screen mirroring with Samsung devices. I remembered that my Blu-ray player which is Samsung is also Wireless and will do mirroring and it worked just fine. Then I tried it on a flat panel 2017 Samsung TV and again it worked just fine but go to any other brand or older TV and you have to use third-party software which does not do true screen mirroring. In your settings on any older phone you will have a setting for mirroring in the Advanced connections. But if you look in the settings for the Note 8 the only mirroring setting you find is for a USB connection to your car. Samsung is more and more making it impossible to connect to anything easily but their own devices.
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But in my case I own a series 6 samsung led f6400 and still I am not able to connect.The connection happens for a moment and then the screen mirroring terminates. Am I missing any setting?
It works just fine with my note 8 and Samsung TV.
Same problem.
I had this exact same problem. The solution was stupidly simple. When I hit "smart view" all the devices show up. Tapping on the device I want does not work. I actually had to hold down on the device I wanted for a second, and it immediately connected.
It worked totally fine on FHD+ though, it must be a bug. Hold it on WQHD+.
Thank You!
Yes, that worked. Thank you. I wasn't sure exactly what you meant when you said you have to hold it down but it's long hold. If you long hold the icon on the phone when selecting the Samsung smart TV, then in my case I got a request for a validation code which appeared on my TV. It worked. I have the same problem with the Galaxy note 8, and the Galaxy S8. This is definitely a bug, because it actually said it was connected. But then it would time out and the Screen Mirroring on the TV would stop. So glad you came up with the solution. Thanks for sharing with us
If you send a video from notes 8 to the Smart Tv to you is it fluid? To me it jams and then it takes back.
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Samsung is becoming more like apple everyday with proprietary software. My older Samsung devices work on everything. The Note 8 and I would assume the same would be for the S8 and S8 Plus will only do true screen mirroring with Samsung devices. ...... go to any other brand or older TV and you have to use third-party software which does not do true screen mirroring. In your settings on any older phone you will have a setting for mirroring in the Advanced connections. But if you look in the settings for the Note 8 the only mirroring setting you find is for a USB connection to your car. Samsung is more and more making it impossible to connect to anything easily but their own devices.
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This is the whole reason, scratch that, one of the big reasons (among so many) why the note 8 will be the last Samsung device that I purchase. I have a Galaxy S5 that screen mirrors with audio to any TV. I also have a Galaxy Grand Prime, which is a mid level device, rooted with oreo on it and it screen mirrors just fine.
This is now why I have just firmly decided why I'm gonna root this device and put oreo or pie on it, chalk the rest all up to experience and call it a day. Screw the Samsung software. The next device will be a one plus or Pixel or lastly maybe Motorola. Unbranded and boot loader unlockable. Never again will I deal with a company that wants to double their prices on devices in just two years till they are now $1000 and then eliminate so many features that the hardware is more than capable of thus making your device half as appealing as other flagship devices. Handcuff you and locking the boot loader up tight so you can't do what you want to do with your device you spent a $1000 on. That is all just discussing to me. Big business wanting you to pay more more astronomical dollars all the while wanting to control you and your device more and more. So long, and nice knowing you Samsung but I never really believed in or bought into your marketing and business model.
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This is the whole reason, scratch that, one of the big reasons (among so many) why the note 8 will be the last Samsung device that I purchase. I have a Galaxy S5 that screen mirrors with audio to any TV. I also have a Galaxy Grand Prime, which is a mid level device, rooted with oreo on it and it screen mirrors just fine.
This is now why I have just firmly decided why I'm gonna root this device and put oreo or pie on it, chalk the rest all up to experience and call it a day. Screw the Samsung software. The next device will be a one plus or Pixel or lastly maybe Motorola. Unbranded and boot loader unlockable. Never again will I deal with a company that wants to double their prices on devices in just two years till they are now $1000 and then eliminate so many features that the hardware is more than capable of thus making your device half as appealing as other flagship devices. Handcuff you and locking the boot loader up tight so you can't do what you want to do with your device you spent a $1000 on. That is all just discussing to me. Big business wanting you to pay more more astronomical dollars all the while wanting to control you and your device more and more. So long, and nice knowing you Samsung but I never really believed in or bought into your marketing and business model.
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I actually like Samsung Electronics but I agree with you here. This is my last phone from Samsung because I don't like the fact that it's locked down like that.. What also pisses me off is the fact that Samsung is USING Android as their operating system and Android is OPEN SOURCE software and Samsung shouldn't be taking an open source software and then locking it down! That's like buying a car and then taking the name of it off and putting your own brand name on it and that's not right at all.