Do a lot of people stick with the stock rom as their every day rom ?. I'm not about to ask which rom is best, don't worry
Is this phone easy to sim unlock yourself ?. I had a Galaxy S3 which was very easy to do myself, but i've been searching around and there doesn't appear to be any do-it-yourself method to unlock it. Obviously there are ebay solutions, but i don't really trust that method.
I can buy an unlocked one, but the difference in price between that and a network locked one is quite significant, so i'd rather do it myself if possible.
One point that kept cropping up in all the reviews I was reading last night was that it sometimes does run quite hot, so has anyone found this to be the case ?. I'm not a heavy user at all - primary use will be listening to music while i'm out with some web surfing and occasional gaming.
The reason i'm considering one over a Galaxy S3 is that I managed to drop the S3 down some stairs in my building and it shattered the screen, so i claimed on the insurance and i'm just waiting for the cheque
thanks in advance for your time
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Do a lot of people stick with the stock rom as their every day rom ?. I'm not about to ask which rom is best, don't worry
Is this phone easy to sim unlock yourself ?. I had a Galaxy S3 which was very easy to do myself, but i've been searching around and there doesn't appear to be any do-it-yourself method to unlock it. Obviously there are ebay solutions, but i don't really trust that method.
I can buy an unlocked one, but the difference in price between that and a network locked one is quite significant, so i'd rather do it myself if possible.
One point that kept cropping up in all the reviews I was reading last night was that it sometimes does run quite hot, so has anyone found this to be the case ?. I'm not a heavy user at all - primary use will be listening to music while i'm out with some web surfing and occasional gaming.
The reason i'm considering one over a Galaxy S3 is that I managed to drop the S3 down some stairs in my building and it shattered the screen, so i claimed on the insurance and i'm just waiting for the cheque
thanks in advance for your time
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International or AT&T
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International or AT&T
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International I guess - i'm in the UK
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International I guess - i'm in the UK
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Sim unlocks can be done rather cheap through different websites for roughly $15 US (not sure how that converts out). I know there are a few listed in other threads so a search should net you that result. I know unlocking in the U.S. just became illegal so some of those sites may not be around anymore.
As far as heat I can only talk from experience on the AT&T model and I do not find it to be a major issues. I have heard of even less issues with heat on the international model.
that's a bit harsh to make unlocking illegal ! wow
thanks for your reply. i'll have a look around for an unlocking solution to see what i find. it would be nice if someone could just come up with the superoneclick method right at the point I have to buy the handset.. not that i'm asking much
Unlocking in the US didn't just become illegal. It's always been illegal, it's just the protection that covers unlocking phones has expired. There is no way a US network operator will go to the effort to prosecute individuals. And the protection will almost certainly be restored when the exemption rules for the Digital Millennium Copyright Act are reviewed in late 2013.
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that's a bit harsh to make unlocking illegal ! wow
thanks for your reply. i'll have a look around for an unlocking solution to see what i find. it would be nice if someone could just come up with the superoneclick method right at the point I have to buy the handset.. not that i'm asking much
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Hansoon on this forum sells unlock codes. Generally its seen as good forum etiquette to help the devs out by buying things like that off them, as oposed to giving your money to some faceless organisation.
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Hansoon on this forum sells unlock codes. Generally its seen as good forum etiquette to help the devs out by buying things like that off them, as oposed to giving your money to some faceless organisation.
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If I do end up getting a One X+, then I'll certainly have no problem with sending some money his way.
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If I do end up getting a One X+, then I'll certainly have no problem with sending some money his way.
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i can vouch for Hasoon i bought an unlock code from him for my X+ which was net locked onto o2 uk
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i can vouch for Hasoon i bought an unlock code from him for my X+ which was net locked onto o2 uk
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That's good because the handset I had my eye on is actually locked to O2. The difference in price is £325 quid for a C Grade handset locked to O2, or £375 for a B Grade unlocked one - both from CEX. So it's a fair leap in cost as you can see.
Do you use the stock sense rom though ?
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That's good because the handset I had my eye on is actually locked to O2. The difference in price is £325 quid for a C Grade handset locked to O2, or £375 for a B Grade unlocked one - both from CEX. So it's a fair leap in cost as you can see.
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Nope i don't use stock, i use my own builds AOSP\CM10.1\PA
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Nope i don't use stock, i use my own builds AOSP\CM10.1\PA
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Cool, thanks.
Can I ask you one last thing ?. I've read the guides about unlocking the bootloader and flashing, but would you say that flashing the S3 is simpler?
When i've done it in the past, it's just doing all the necessary wipes, flashing the rom and job done - the One X+ doesn't seem that simple, unless i'm missing something.
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Cool, thanks.
Can I ask you one last thing ?. I've read the guides about unlocking the bootloader and flashing, but would you say that flashing the S3 is simpler?
When i've done it in the past, it's just doing all the necessary wipes, flashing the rom and job done - the One X+ doesn't seem that simple, unless i'm missing something.
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the X+ has one extra flash and that's the boot.img myself and a few others are working on a way to flash boot.img in recovery instead of in hboot/bootloader (yesterday i flashed a kernel in recovery, failed to boot the device though) Also i have no idea how you guys flash the S3 as i haven't used a Sammy device since the Samsung Galaxy Spica.
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the X+ has one extra flash and that's the boot.img myself and a few others are working on a way to flash boot.img in recovery instead of in hboot/bootloader (yesterday i flashed a kernel in recovery, failed to boot the device though) Also i have no idea how you guys flash the S3 as i haven't used a Sammy device since the Samsung Galaxy Spica.
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To flash the S3, I just used to put the rom file on the phone, boot to clockworkmod, do all the wipes and flash the rom and that's it.
thanks for the information. still don't know what to do though. S3 or One X+ ..
only you can decide that one dude
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the X+ has one extra flash and that's the boot.img myself and a few others are working on a way to flash boot.img in recovery instead of in hboot/bootloader (yesterday i flashed a kernel in recovery, failed to boot the device though) Also i have no idea how you guys flash the S3 as i haven't used a Sammy device since the Samsung Galaxy Spica.
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Ano you guys have already prob discussed this approach. But when i had the SXL. A user called fardjab, discovered that the hboot partition was not protected by the security flag, he then modded a hboot to think it was S-off, and flashed it. Although the devices technically were still security locked, we got pretty much all the functionality of S-off.
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only you can decide that one dude
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Tell me about it .. really can't make my mind up. loved my S3 but I really like the build of the One X+ ..
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Hello all, I'm currently using a Nexus One on T-Mo but am probably going to jump back to Sprint here soon. I had been looking to get the Evo3D, but fear that it's going to be locked down as the Thuderbolt was. I understand you guy were able to gain root on the Thunderbolt recently, but only because you got an engineering something or other, I don't remember exactly. My question here is, what would the chances have been of the phone being rooted the normal brute force way. Would we have been looking at possibly months or more, or was it just a matter of days. I ask cause if the Evo3D is going to be locked down and may take months or more to crack, I may just go with the Nexus S for now.
Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
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Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
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Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
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Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
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Mine sure does. A thousand times better than my Facinate did.
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I was just referring to the first "Galaxy" set that came out. The S 4G, S II, and their releases this year have been stellar. But neither of those are on VZW . I would snatch up the SII in a second if it was on VZW.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I hear you. Some company will eventually embrace modders and devs, I just wanted it to be HTC. Oh well, sad day
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It seems we've gone a bit off topic. I have been reading all the comments and have learned that Sammy isn't doing what HTC is starting to do with locking their bootloaders, something I didn't know before this thread, good to know. But the question I presented hasn't really been answered yet. How long, rough gestimation, would it take to crack the bootloader of the new phones HTC is coming out with. Are we talking weeks or months or more. I know this a question that can't be easily answered with a specific answer, but I'm looking more for how likely they are to be cracked in a timely manner. I'm not a hacker, cracker or code breaker so I really don't even know where to begin with trying to answer this question, hence why I put it forth here, on the forum of a phone that was locked and got unlocked hoping a dev could give me some info on weather getting the forthcoming Evo3D is a good idea for someone who want's to root the phone. I am however leaning back towards the Nexus s 4G because of this thread, but since money won't allow that at the moment, I'm exploring my options until the time I can afford a new phone.
The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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I've been reading around about this (disappointing) news of HTC's lockdown using signed bootloaders, etc. and from what I have read, it seems like the crackers have indicated they are going to have a helluva time. A few tweets from jcase's twiiter page (whose opinions I personally value, YMMV):
If you want root, don't buy an yet to be rooted phone
[email protected] signed recovery, signed kernel, signed hboot, and write protection. won't buy [email protected] devices like that
HTC now MORE dev unfriendly than Motorola.
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Looks pretty dreary for new HTC phones.
Droid, which has signed bootloader, is still locked, and it's pretty long on the market. It's a matter of years, if not eternity. It's f***ing hard to crack those keys.
What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
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It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
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How does a locked bootloader equal money?
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How does a locked bootloader equal money?
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Easy, keeps people using htc products, and makes us pay for tethering. Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using.... Sucks
Edit: or whatever manufacturer made your device
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Easy, keeps people using htc products
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How
and makes us pay for tethering.
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The carriers have already shown that they can detect unofficial tethering
Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using
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Why does it matter?
So, with the Evo 3D's bootloader locked down and with the SGSII conformed coming to sprint, it looks like my choice is clearly the SGSII or the Nexus S. You may ask yourself why I am even considering the NS over the SGSII? Simple question, what do you guys think (this is why I'm here asking this question)? I think it's safe to say the NS is a pretty solid phone, so how about the SGSII? How has it been running for you guys?
I've heard different things, such as battery issues and GPS issues, but this could be because it was posted on the EVO 3D's forum (major bias a possibility).
Also, my question on the bootloader. Is there a chance that the bootloader will get locked (similar to how the EVO 3D's got locked) when it makes the jump to the US? The bootloader being locked is why I crossed off the EVO 3D from my list; I simply can't live with a stock phone.
On a side note, I also heard somewhere that there was a case made for the SGSII that will fit ALL American derivatives, meaning the carries can't mess with the design (I love the current design, so this is a huge plus too)
So, I have two questions (if you didn't figure out what they were already):
1. Will the bootloader be affected by the transfer to the US carriers (specificially sprint)?
2. Are there any nagging problems that I should be aware of? On the other hand, are there any things you absolutely love on this phone that aren't on other phones ?
Thanks!
Well Nexus S it is ;-)
May I ask why?
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So, with the Evo 3D's bootloader locked down and with the SGSII conformed coming to sprint, it looks like my choice is clearly the SGSII or the Nexus S.
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Where is this confirmation?
Why would you want to buy a phone with last years hardware? I wouldn't even touch any phone that didn't have 1gb of ram and a dual core cpu nowadays.
Lol you don't need a hackable phone. I'm pretty sure htc and samsung are 2 different companies. Bootloader policy's are different.
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Where is this confirmation?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/05/24/confirmed-evo-3ds-bootloader-recovery-and-kernel-images-all-locked-down/
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Why would you want to buy a phone with last years hardware? I wouldn't even touch any phone that didn't have 1gb of ram and a dual core cpu nowadays.
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I don't actually plan on getting it, I was just trying to find a better word than "bump"
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No... where is the confirmation that the SGSII is coming to Sprint?
Are there any Samsung phones that have a cryptographically signed bootloader or is it limited to HTC and Motorola so far?
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Are there any Samsung phones that have a cryptographically signed bootloader or is it limited to HTC and Motorola so far?
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it is likely signed on the sgs2, but the checking of signatures may not be enforced
An update for galaxy tab prevented unsigned kernels being flashed, but it was overcome, and seemed to die out
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/
Not verified by sprint, but seems pretty official without being official
My biggest two gripes keeping me from using the SG2?:
1. Most web sites are displayed as mobile versions (despite its 'fantastic PC-like web experience'. No 'user' option (desktop, ipad etc). Hate that. Yeah you can use another browser but Gingerbread stock is fastest. Dumb Samsung.
2. Charging rate is r e a l l y slow. When using device on charger...it won't charge!
No good for me.
Hi im upgrading from an Incite XD and im wondering if i should buy an Inspire or the Atrix.. this question is killing me and i dont have an answer yet :S so which one do you think can be the best choice ? i will use my phone to read many stuff in the internet but i dont know what is better for this... the inpsire big screen so i dont have to zoom in too much or the atrix qhd resolution ? also the inspire is cheaper but if the atrix worth it i could buy it and the last thing is that i like to customize my phone and being able to unlock it so i can use it in mexico i think that both can be unlocked but maybe im wrong so please what do you think is the best option for me ? thanks
I think what it comes down to is they are both excellent phones but you have to make a choice between the Atrix's locked bootloader but more or the Inspire's poor battery life.
Go to your AT&T store and play with both of the phones before you decide to purchase either one. Don't let a bunch of people you never met in your life decide for you.
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I think what it comes down to is they are both excellent phones but you have to make a choice between the Atrix's locked bootloader but more or the Inspire's poor battery life.
Go to your AT&T store and play with both of the phones before you decide to purchase either one. Don't let a bunch of people you never met in your life decide for you.
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the problem is that i am in mexico and here there are not at&t stores .
I just want to know one thing.. what do you guys think is better for surfing the internet and reading stuff inspire big screen or atrix big resolution ?
do we really need another thread like this? did you even bother searching the others threads?
get the inspire go bother their forums
yeah i searched and found 2 similar threads you can close this one im getting the inspire for me its a much better phone thanks
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yeah i searched and found 2 similar threads you can close this one im getting the inspire for me its a much better phone thanks
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Have fun with ur single core cpu.
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Have fun with ur single core cpu.
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You mean the one with the unlocked bootloader?
I have my infuse coming this week, but I won't be giving up my atrix.
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You mean the one with the unlocked bootloader?
I have my infuse coming this week, but I won't be giving up my atrix.
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Yeah that one,lol.
damn. i meant to say INSPIRE.....stupid names for new phones....
will have the Attain as soon as it drops
the two are great phones just i cant wait for the atrix bootloader being unlocked..
thanks for all your help
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damn. i meant to say INSPIRE.....stupid names for new phones....
will have the Attain as soon as it drops
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same here. you also reading about a july release date?
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same here. you also reading about a july release date?
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i heard that at one point.....i have a captivate eligible for upgrade next month....
Just wanted to let everyone know the bootloader unlock should be coming anytime now. HTC is supposedly Diligently Working to get it ready. Guess all the harassment paid off but hey HTC is a good company and they like loyal customers so I'm not surprised. But hey we been waiting long enough. Jk we got plenty of time to enjoy this beauty of a phone everything will come in due time, soon as in Today hopefully LOL.
Here is a post from one website, but you can Google it and pretty much see its already in the works.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...bootloader-unlock-in-case-you-were-wondering/
Dude.....look at the date on the top of the link you posted. May 27th!!!!!
no offense but that is the old email from a month ago. Basically a day after they put it on their facebook and twitter. We all know its coming for a month, just dont know when. It might be here by christmas with Ice cream sandwich.
LOL is the new link better. Sorry
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LOL is the new link better. Sorry
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No.... because this is the same thing that has been posted 15 times already. having another one doesn't make it happen any faster..
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No.... because this is the same thing that has been posted 15 times already. having another one doesn't make it happen any faster..
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I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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They could put an unlocked bootloader in a firmware.zip and have it uploaded to the internet in well under half an hour if they really wanted to... probably under 5 tbh.
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I'm sure they're getting the point. I think they working as fast as they can. I want it done right. I'm sure they don't want to lose a huge line of customers who waiting on root. HTC wants sells and they don't want Samsung to capitalize because they pissed there customers off. This is two if there biggest phones to date from a business perspective its not smart to be slow.
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To all of the people saying "be patient" think if it this way: Every day we don't have root we lose one developer.
in a month or two, well, never mind....theyd better unlock soon...
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unlocked bootloader does not equal automatic root
Sure it does, with unlocked bootloader we can flash custom ROM with superuser included
jeez ...........
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Sure it does, with unlocked bootloader we can flash custom ROM with superuser included
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you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
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you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
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But you can flash a rooted ROM
No automatic root... All the bootloader now is doing is preventing us from loading a custom firmware (possibly with root included). Have to achieve S-Off first to be able to load those custom firmwares. So it is possible to have root now by someone finding an exploit, but impossible for custom firmware. If we have room and the boot loader is unlocked (not encrypted), then it is possible to then use custom firmware.
SayWhat10 said:
you sure about that buddy?
an unlocked bootloader is simply an unlocked boatloader
you can flash stuff, but doesnt magically give you root........
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Sure it does.
Is HTC planning to give us an unlocked bootloader or just one that isn't encrypted.
xHausx said:
They could put an unlocked bootloader in a firmware.zip and have it uploaded to the internet in well under half an hour if they really wanted to... probably under 5 tbh.
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I see your point though I'm guessing priorities are:
1) fix the bugs
2) unlock the bootloader.
I'd be shocked if this isn't done by July 24th and I'd bet that it will come sooner.
For every new bootloader thread, God kills a kitten.
A lol cat. =D
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mlin said:
Sure it does.
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WRONG
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SayWhat10 said:
WRONG
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I see, I see. Well, when you give so much information, along with all those facts... I mean, it just won't be possible to argue with that kind of logic. You have obviously spent quite a bit of time putting that answer together, what with all of the links and facts to disprove the other guy.
/sarcasm
anthony2131 said:
Hey everyone, bootloader is finally almost done i will be posting thread shortly and will also be posting my perma root solution. I have a post on aicp/lollipop community on google
---------- Post added at 06:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 PM ----------
I am in the final stages of coming out with a apk called PERMA root. It will root while also giving you the option to unlock bootloader. I am testing on two more devices before release. I want to leave nobody unhappy. Therefore any device you may have will work. As new phones are introduced it will only take a couple days to activate from my end. Please be patient because as you already know this is some hard work and long hour testing.
Tested devices: (list includes all carriers) (multiple devices in each listed brand tested to include s4 and s5) Lg, Samsumg, htc, and currently testing last of others. Thanks for the patience.
Be welcome to share accross XDA
[Root][/community][bootloader][/community]
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Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
zerocool79346 said:
Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
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I feel you but we can only hope.
zerocool79346 said:
Until it's released and confirmed working, I'm extremely skeptical but time will tell I suppose.
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Let me test it
thegamerdarkseid said:
I feel you but we can only hope.
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mmw68666 said:
Let me test it
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Not my software and I've got no control over its release, just found it in the S5 forum and figured most over here would want to see even if it is a longshot.
zerocool79346 said:
Not my software and I've got no control over its release, just found it in the S5 forum and figured most over here would want to see even if it is a longshot.
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Send me the link to the forum
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mmw68666 said:
Send me the link to the forum
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051
Don't get excited people. That thread has become an all out flame war and I see warnings and/or bans coming instead of root.. Oh well... ?
is he saying that the app will be able to unlock the bootloader on the verizon retail version of the note 3? Can i have the link to that thread? Thanks.
nflwideout86 said:
is he saying that the app will be able to unlock the bootloader on the verizon retail version of the note 3? Can i have the link to that thread? Thanks.
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He was claiming root and bootloader unlock. But instead of getting everyone riled up he probably should have made it a covert job and then "Bam" here you go. Kinda like when the Rezound got s-off. But the thread got way out of control and it's locked now until he can prove he has something substantial. If you'd like to check it out see the first post in this thread and go to original post quote.
While I love the xda community and have been along time member and highly appreciative of the devs.
I'm just about ready to toss this phone in the garbage.
I miss the days of flashing my phone every week to the latest and greatest when I had my original galaxy note for 2 years.
My 2cents
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
mirrin said:
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
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I feel the same way about my galaxy bloat 3. First and formost i need a phone that works as a phone. This phone has the worst service and software out of any phone i've owned. As far as the sortware goes i thought i would be able to fix it with cm11 but thanks to verizon and me not doing my home work a head of time i'm stuck with the ****tiest phone i've ever owned. I can't wait for july to replace it with a motorola product.
I must be getting old. I don't see a problem with the stock note 3 and the bloat. Yeah the signal could be better but that is on Samsung more than Verizon. And yes Verizon could shorten the approval process for updates and Samsung could drop tw and put out updates in line with the nexus line as all manufactures should the ui should be a app on the app store and be little more than a launcher for people to choose to use if they want.
Not going to happen. If your on big red you likely don't have a choice or it is the best service in your area or your grandfathered into unlimited. The Samsung phones were the only ones with 2 features I am unable to give up battery that is removable and sd card.
mirrin said:
Wow really your going to get frustrated and throw out a phone that costs 400-700$ because you can't flash roms endlessly yeah i get tw sucks and I want to have better options for roms but even if I lost root I would not throw out my note 3.
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If this phone doesn't end up with Lollipop that's rootable or an unlocked bootloader before February, I'm throwing mine at my Verizon Rep's face and picking up a Note 4. We bought Note 3's for only two reasons. The first reason was that the other Note's were easy to root and flash to CM and the second reason was because of the S-Pen. At this point I would take a loss on the S-Pen functionality just to be rid of all of the Samsung Bloat on my phones.
Wow. sounds like you all should be buying an international variant. trashing you phone or going to a N4 with a locked bootloader is not going to solve your problem. I am pleased with my Rooted N3 and have no issues and will stay with Samsung for a while. Root is nice but it's not going to cause me to put my phone in the trash, there are other things in life that are far more important
Yeah way to stick it to Samsung by throwing out last quarters model and buying the brand new one.
I see both sides, though we didn't have ten or fifteen roms to flash, this phone was not a waste at all. It's a solid phone for my use. But flashing roms has become a hobby and I don't like not doing that either. So even though most of the developers are going to the Nexus. I just don't like having no SD or removable battery either. And how are they handling any replacements for a phone currently not carried by Big Red? May not be the place for me to ask that but I'm curious.
You might want to check out the Note 4 forum for scripts that can disable a ton of the bloatware without root. I am still rocking rooted MJE so I can't test it with kitkat. It supposedly will run on most android phones. Just wanted to mention a potential solution until root achieved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972263
bentheexo said:
If this phone doesn't end up with Lollipop that's rootable or an unlocked bootloader before February, I'm throwing mine at my Verizon Rep's face and picking up a Note 4. We bought Note 3's for only two reasons. The first reason was that the other Note's were easy to root and flash to CM and the second reason was because of the S-Pen. At this point I would take a loss on the S-Pen functionality just to be rid of all of the Samsung Bloat on my phones.
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So locked note 3 to a locked down note 4 when you are stuck with the options of motorola or sony for unlockable phones that are on verizon.
IF you really have to have CM 12 you are going to have to either make sure the phone you get at that time has an unlockable bl or is a nexus.
And as for the note 4 it is only a slight upgrade over the note 3 and both will someday get lollipop note 4 sooner than the note 3...
alsgarage said:
Yeah way to stick it to Samsung by throwing out last quarters model and buying the brand new one.
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LOL