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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
andrawer said:
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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*begin rant* I give up. I'm tired of flashing different roms everytime just to have a stable device. I've tried all the ics roms for our device, but all seem to have their different issues to deal with. I'm now going to stick to rooted stock gb, for I feel that it meets my needs ,though its slow as hell. Imma wait for the official ics update, hopefully that is stable enough with no issues. The leaks have terrible battery life.
On another note, pun intended, if the whole T-Mobile modem situation doesnt work out, looks like imma sell this bad boy. I love the size and the screen, but I value stability. Maybe I'll wait for cm9 to come out alongside the official kernel. If that doesn't help, bye bye g note.
Anyone else feel like this? Imma try out saurom in the mean time, tho I'm in love with ics.
Dueces.
*end of rant.
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Saurom on dag's kernel is the only rom I will ever flash until we get access to the kernel
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I felt the same way until I tried flapjaxx base ics. Its very stable compared to the others I've tried.
I really think it is an app causing your issues, or the way you are restoring them. The latest ICS leak is rock solid for me, not a single FC after weeks of use, and insane battery life. Off the charger for 14 hours and at 68% right now.
Try going to a solid no frill ROM (might I suggest the one by Flappjaxx). Set the CPU to use the FJ settings. Then just try a basic setup for a while. Don't go crazy with the apps, just configure mail and whatnot, see how everything goes for a day or two.
Do yourself a favor and down load this rom, i have been using for about 2weeks and its more stable than GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170
Flashing aint for everyone. So, if you can't take it then leave, I guess. I don't know what you're whining about. I have had several fast, stable ROMs on my Note. I am currently using Flapjaxxx IMM. (By the way, the link above me is for a rip off of Flapjaxxx ROM so yes, it works.) As already stated, your issues may very well be your own cause. Depending on how you flash and restore your data you may be messing it up yourself. One last thing. You have no right to feel so entitled. These ROMs, and XDA as a whole, is experimental and FREE. So stop whining.
Before giving up try FlapJaxx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
I agree with the others. Try flashing Flapjaxx's ROM and installing your apps again manually instead of using Tibu. Most likely something app related, because most of the roms are stable as hell for most people.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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My problem isn't exactly the roms; its the idea that I need to flash in order to have a stable/fast device. I've been lurking here since the old winmo days. First device was a T-mobile mda, and now i'm here with the note. I'm very grateful for the community, for obvious reasons. I'm getting old lol, and no time to keep flashing and experimenting. I tried the hyfer, clean install n everything... touchwiz kept crashing. I tried flapp's rom, kept fc'ing whenever i used cut/copy/paste. numerous other small issues. its the little things. I'm not complaining. I'm just deciding to stick to stock lol. So far my flash counter is up to 16. I keep odin'ing back to stock.
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Which version of Flap's did you try? It was updated like a week and a half ago, and cut copy and paste work just fine.
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It's unfortunate that you are having these issues. I'm running the latest unofficial CM9 and it's solid with everything I use (don't use spen) . I haven't had an fc yet.
I'm at 31% after 15 hours off charger. 2 hours of screen time and 40 minutes of phone time as well as some steaming music through my Bluetooth, headset.
I will say that I'm very anxious for Samsung to release the official ICS so we can get an overclock kernel.
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I've tried most of the roms with varying degrees of success....I am currently running the hybrid 6.2 and it had been fast and stable! I was running an earlier version and did an upgrade but ended up doing a full wipe....I reinstalled all of my apps manually and it really works great now.... Just my two cents worth....lol
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
shaokang said:
Thanks guys for the response. Actually, I think something might be wrong with the device. Even after odin'ing back to stock, i'm still greeted by fc's. Perhaps i'm using the wrong odin file? Like i just flashed saurom, and still problems galore. i'll keep you updated.
Thank you all.
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Like someone said, flashing isn't for everyone. If you are having problems now you didn't have on stock rom before, obviously the way you flash isn't right. Especially when others are okay on problems you have on the same rom.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I too have decided to stay with Gingrrbread and have not even been tempted to try any of the ICS roms. I am a grown up and I have the patience to wait for the official ICS and the kernel source to be released. I never get caught up in leaks cause they are a hassle. I am on Gingerbread and everything works as it should as opposed to a buggy ICS rom thats been rigged to sorta work. If anyone uses a rom that has more than two things that simply don't work they are wasting their time and I know of at least 10 things that don't work on any of the ICS roms we have available. To each his own though. I am sure the roms will be excellent as soon as the official ICS and source are released so I don't care to wait. I have been using the same rom for three months and I doubt any of the ICS roms can touch it in any way. Try Solaris Prime A New Hope rom you won't be disappointed.
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I don't think there's that much broke with the ICS roms. On Flapjaxx's ROM the only thing broke afaik is MHL out, which I don't use, so to me, the ROM is fully functional. Plus, since it's ICS, I also have the premium suite and SVoice, which is even more capability than any GB ROM. Don't get me wrong, I loved Solaris Prime when I used to run it, but once ICS leaked, there was no turning back. I guess the only other thing I can't do is overclock, which doesn't matter to me anyways, as ICS is already smoother than Solaris Prime was overclocked.
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Not to be rude but if you can't appreciate the work thats done by the community then you shouldn't be here. Every dev provides disclaimers (which most people don't bother to read I guess), and they do so because they don't want to deal with people whining. I do a lot of free work for people and there is nothing more disheartening than someone moaning and whining that the free help/work I'd done was not enough, when in reality the same amount of effort would've cost them $200+ dollars without the personal touches.
Blame Samsung, they haven't officially released ICS for this device. You come in here and start badmouthing ICS roms, which were produced by the effort of devs, who ask us for our input, then have to wade through the innumerable useless posts and weed out the genuine feedback they need to improve the user experience for us.
/end rant.
I wouldn't really rant about it on XDA, but from what I read in the various ROM threads the OP isn't far off. The ROMs are generally good, EXCEPT for X, Y, Z, oh this doesn't work, and there's a bug there, etc.
I often see a lot of this is due to people trying silly DPI numbers, and that's just self-inflicted problems... Unfortunately a lot of that gets attributed to ROM problems when it should not be, and in fact at least one ROM thread has very clear if you're NOT running 320, don't report bugs.
Personally, stock rooted GB is working great and I'll keep using it until I see an ICS ROM that doesn't have as many caveats as I see in various threads. Some of these might be feature-over-function problems (adding too much random stuff into a ROM) but I'd say a lot of it is due to kernel and ICS Source. Hopefully the latter is less a problem as it was a month ago or so, but the kernel of course is still outstanding.
I do my fair share of tinkering on secondary devices and tablets, but my Note is my primary phone, so I don't mess with it.
Let's face it, there are a lot of people who don't want to tinker, they just want to put a ROM on their phone. That's the XDA atmosphere of today. IMO those people should not flash random ROMs on their phone.
Flapjaxx ICS rom is excellent .
Guaranteed my stock build was worse. And battery was horrible on stock. Rooted or not that bloated 2.3.6 stock rom wasted my time.
If ya don't like bugs ....wipe data /factory reset and put the phone down.
They "all " have bugs.
At least our batteries don't melt like an isheep phone ..LOL ....g
You should try objections ucle2 #2 RC1 its really fast and stable. I know what you mean it gets old having to be flashing every other day but what can you do. Its the only way to keep up with the software.
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Try one of flapps roms, I've been in all of them and they are all great...
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Are we ever going to have a fully funcional JB with good battery life and all, now that we have the leak, or is the missing kernel still too big of a problem?
I had to take my Atrix into the shop, and at first it appeard I was going to be getting a GS2 because they were out of Atrixes, but I got a call friday saying that they miraculosly got two in stock and put one aside for me. Now, I've been on a
'waiting list' for the GS2 (because they didn't have the Atrix in stock) for about a month now (and I've had to use sony ericsson yendo, it drives me mad), so I can try to argue them into switching it out anyhow. However, I'm not sure I do, as there are some things I like more about the Atrix (battery, pixel density and screen size, fp scanner...), but, if I'm going to be stuck with GB I'd much rather have the GS2, so...
Get GS2 if you're dying to get all things working right from the box.
If you'd like to wait for some months until the devs can pull this up (i'm sure they ll do but it'll take some time). Get the Galaxy.
Nevermind, choose the first option and don't EVER buy from Motorola again.
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Get GS2 if you're dying to get all things working right from the box.
If you'd like to wait for some months until the devs can pull this up (i'm sure they ll do but it'll take some time). Get the Galaxy.
Nevermind, choose the first option and don't EVER buy from Motorola again.
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I'm not dying, I've been waiting for a year... But do you think devs will be able to come up with a working kernel without sources, and within a resonable timeframe (ie a couple months).
Thanks
I have faith in them, almost blind is my faith. But, remember that it can took a year or more...
If you have the money, go for another phone
jhonnyx said:
I have faith in them, almost blind is my faith. But, remember that it can took a year or more...
If you have the money, go for another phone
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Ok lol thanks
please consider the high possibility that you could recieve one of the new atrixes that have a nonunlockable bootloader. i have gotten 2 of them from at&t since August that CANNOT BE UNLOCKED. without unlockin can't flash custom roms.
Save yourself the headache and get the GS2.
For starters its an infinitely better device with JB supported in the roadmap coming soon, better modding options and support in xda community also. I highly doubt that the ICS leak will make any inroads into a working rom release anytime soon, so just do yourself a favour and jump ship.
Ive just purchased a GS2 as they are dirt cheap now and will be binning my Atrix. The Atrix has been an absolute nightmare for over a year, stock is buggy and not a single fully functioning, fast, stable rom available (well nottachtrix was at least stable enough, but no cigar). Ill never purchase another motorola product after this experience.
Good luck
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
erikmarko said:
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
So, I understand the process of it.. but not really as to why.
Are you able to install anything N4 you want? Roms, kernels, etc? Or is it just the N4 converted roms from the dev section?
Is everything working? I've read mixed reports.
Thanks,
Nicholas
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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jimi_pooh said:
Dr0!d thanks for explanation. I have a question. Ever time I come back to stock I get an encryption error. What am I doing wrong?
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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jimi_pooh said:
Dude thanks a bunch. I'm going to try wiping like u suggested
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That's what did the trick for me when I came back. Good luck
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Dr0!dFreek said:
I got that error once. lgpnst doesn't really wipe partitions correctly before flashing ROMs. NownI wipe all of my partitions in recovery and then fastboot -w in command prompt before flashing back to stock . A data and cache is probably all that's needed but the flashing process takes a minute and I haven't had time to try it out. I think there is also something you can do at the encryption screen . it says like reset phone or something I think I've read that if you keep hitting it it will reset your phone or something idk sorry.
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I tend to go back and forth doing the N4 conversion and back to At&t stock. I get this fail to encryption screen,some times after I LGNPST back to stock. Pressing the "reset phone" repeatedly never does anything for me. What i've been doing is when this happens is, I'll shut the phone down and press the Vol down and HOLD first and then hold the power button. It will bring you to some kind of factory recovery where it says "HARD RESET MODE" Just press the power button to confirm the reset and it essentially just wipes the phone and brings it back to stock.
Hope that helps!
Dr0!dFreek said:
The lgog and the nexus 4 are fairly similar phones. The reason we can't run nexus 4 ROMs is because some differences in the partitioning. Flashing the modified tot for the conversion converts your partition layout to that of a nexus 4 and installs the stock nexus 4 rom with an unlocked bootloader.You are supposed to be able to use nexus 4 ROMs and kernels. I've flashed like a 3 different nexus 4 ROMs
The problems that you might run into are with lte but that is fixable.
There is a fix for capacitive keys , nfc , and the external SD card which I were originally not working. The fix is a ROM so if you want all those things working you have to use it or properly patch another ROM with some of its files. There is also a flash able zip that but it is only compatible with certain ROMs.
The only "issue" in not having the full internal SD storage. You only have 8gb in comparison to 16gb but having large external SD should help storage wise.
However, apparently the conversion breaks the camera for the jelly bean stock port from the lg e973http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...an LG-E973/1/5/0 CANADA / ATT / INTERNATIONAL. Camera works fine on every other stock based ROM when you convert back but apparently not on the jellybean port. It has not been proved but it has many claims supporting it. My camera does not work and I have converted.
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Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
xsaqzw said:
Thanks so much man!
Are there going to be any AOSP roms coming out native for the LGOG soon? If so, I'll hold off on the conversion. But if not, then I think I'll go ahead and do the conversion and flash Ginsex or one of the other JB ports. Are the cameras working on this if you flash the fix?
Nicholas
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Yes there are a couple of people working on aosp ROMs right now just give them a little more time
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I know some people are against the conversion as such, but I think in the long run, this will be the only benefit of this phone - I'm expecting LG to do its thing where they don't provide any updates once their newer phones come out.
And here comes the nexus4 conversion - we'll be able to advance our phones thanks to the actual updates for nexus4 that google and the community will provide. Probably we'll lose LTE at some point when the modems will no longer be compatible with newer android versions.
My previous phone, the captivate was in a similar scenario - slightly different from the international galaxy s, but the devs worked out a set of patches to be applied against the galaxy s roms to make them work on the captivate and the captivate has long lived since, becoming one of first phones to get cm10.1 nightlies and enjoying more than a few 4.2.1 roms. It's definitely slowing down, it's been more than 2 and half years since the phone launched and people have moved on to newer devices.
So if it wasn't for the nexus4 conversion, I wouldn't have jumped on the lgog for my upgrade - the phone shipped with ICS, might get a 4.1 update eventually, but I don't expect LG to follow up with further stock updates after 4.1.
I know there is speak of AOSP roms coming to the LGOG, and I'm really thankful for the all the devs who work bringing these, and hoping we'll even see official cm10.1/cm11 then probably we won't need the conversion at all, but if it doesn't happen, or devs give up on the lgog the conversion will be the only path to newest android.
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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This phone is already essentially a N4. We are working on methods of porting the nexus 4 kernel to our phone that do not require any modifications, so we will always be able to run anything the n4 can run anyway. Basically, there will be a longer wait because this is harder to do, but it will be better in the long run, as we fully understand what is going on.
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
There is now a fix for jelly bean rons after converting back to stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146816
[FIX][Re-stock after N4][E970] Camera Fix for JB !!!ALPHA!!!
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whiteguypl said:
Accept that the problem still stands with a ported kernel doesnt it? You guys leave and we need a new kernel and are s.o.l. . Also please dont take what im saying as any kind of insult, its not. Just looking to understand better.
Though i guess the same could be said for a perfected conversion is something in that needed changing.
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Of course both would need kernel changes to make everything work 100%. Either way, someone would need to fix things. Fixing the kernel to boot with full stock may take more work, but I would consider something that does not require modifying the non "normal" partitions of the phone to make work better than something that modifies the base bootloader of the phone.
whiteguypl said:
I still dont understand why any dev is working on anything other than perfecting the n4 conversion. Doing anything else seems like a huge waste of effort and time to me. A perfectly functioning n4 conversion = this phone will be in the game for years and years. Anything else just means everyone is sol when the developers for this specific phone jump ship.. that will never happen with the n4 conversion.
There is also the odd (cant put my finger on it) veil of secrecy with this phone that i never bumped into before. So much info no one knows because its just simply not shared in any way.
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You're so right about the veil of secrecy!
C2fifield said:
While I personally don't really agree with the first comment (I feel as though stock LG development has its place and there are dangers to the conversion), I definitely agree with the secrecy, on my old inspire I knew just about everything the devs were working on, what was and wasn't working, as well as which problems they were facing. With the LGOG I feel like I'm in the dark quite often.
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HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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Who cares what team codefire thinks just keep doing what you are doing and thanks for everything can't wait to try something out. If you need more/any tester just let me know I have best buy insurance so not worried about bricking.
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sk8erwitskil said:
HA! thank you! i HATE this stupid secrecy thing that alot of people in this community have. i have also never experienced anything like it. it really keeps things from expanding. people in here know that they run the risk of damaging their phone anytime they flash anything. the reason these people are keeping things secret is because they think that "dumb people will brick their phone". i have personally been running a solution to running n4 roms/aosp stuff without having to do any conversion for multiple weeks without any harm to my phone. i have a completely working cm-10.1 rom with full internal (16gb), full access to external, cap buttons, led lights, LTE, etc. everything works but i was told by members of team codefire that if i release it then i am an effing moron.
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I'd like to just chime in and say 1) one person said you'd be an effin moron and he is far from the whole of team codefire. His words and actions don't represent the team as a whole, and his words were uncalled for. He could have said things in a nicer way. 2) The cm-10.1 you have relies on a testing version of freegee that was developed, but since abadonded. The reason it was abadonded was quickly we discovered that it bricked sprint radios. We had 4 people, including myself, loose radio. Thus this new freegee method was dropped.
We are instead working with 3.4 lge kernel source. I've also narrowed down what I believe the issue is on mako kernel not booting stock, to be the lge power management vs caf/mako power management. We'd probably have lge 3.4 working by now, but all of us, sk8 included jumped on using mako kernel once it was discovered about this slightly different freegee method. However like I said, after we bricked 4 radios on sprint, we didn't expand the testing any further and stopped.