[Q] Few questions dealing with Droid DNA - HTC Droid DNA

I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!

nived09 said:
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I can almost guarantee you that the OTA will be installed on it and you will not be able to do anything with it until an exploit is found.
The root and S-off process is very easy if you are on the old firmware.

Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?

nived09 said:
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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kaliblazin707 said:
Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.

nived09 said:
Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.

CharliesTheMan said:
Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Got a few -new in box cause I convinced a few retarded reps referbs were the issue- from Verizon n one from amazon. All 2.04
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Yea, I just got it an hour or so ago and booted right into the loader and asked in the IRC and I guess the OTA
was already accepted, so I'm sol for a bit.
Not even going to bother activating it, since I mainly use root for tethering.

I picked up the DNA in San Diego from BB for an upgrade on Verizon. It came with Software 1.15.605.4 710RD. I've s-off'd, root'd & TWRP'd with ease. Now I just need CM10.1 and I'll be happy.
I might fly to France and b-slap the CEO of the company who put the DCMA in.

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How many people here ran ota update?

Should I do the update? I was worried about the unlock bootloader.
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if htc unlocks the boot loader you will have to OTA update anyway ....
i did it 5 minutes after i walked out of sprint store because the rep told me i had to have it to get netflix. netflix still doesn't show up in market. i had to get an apk and load it myself. if it is locked already what is an OTA going to hurt?
The problem here is if HTC doesn't unlock........Anyone who has taken the update may have unknowingly patched an exploit that our devs are using, attempting to gain root access.
sand1303 said:
i did it 5 minutes after i walked out of sprint store because the rep told me i had to have it to get netflix. netflix still doesn't show up in market. i had to get an apk and load it myself. if it is locked already what is an OTA going to hurt?
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If they only 'unlock' (or stop crypto-signing) the bootloader that doesn't guarantee us anything besides that. So we might still have to root the OS, which that OTA is likely a patch against (in addition to other things).
Or they are just going to 'unlock' the bootloader and give us s=off and then we can go wild and not worry about it.
I'm not taking that chance...
...besides, if the devs here get root before HTC--or HTC flakes out--I want in, and declining OTA's is a great way to insure the best chance for root in that circumstance.
Besides, my phone runs great and I haven't missed a single feature....a few FC's here and there, but, big deal....
The way I look at it, if you buy the phone a week from now, it'll already have the OTA on it out of the box anyway. Root will happen eventually, and people won't stop hacking the phone if they can only root 3vo's that came out in the first week of production. No dev is going to want to publish a root that only works on the first week's production. That's like saying "look at me... I have a small p3n15". They won't give up until every OTA is cracked.
Mike
There is another possible benefit. I am not sure which version the engineering bootloader is, but generally, those are a hot commodity. It may be that the official unlocked hboot will have its own limitations. An eng hboot may be more desired. In today's EVO 4G, you cannot downrev to an eng hboot after you have acquired a certain version.
mikeyxda said:
The way I look at it, if you buy the phone a week from now, it'll already have the OTA on it out of the box anyway. Root will happen eventually, and people won't stop hacking the phone if they can only root 3vo's that came out in the first week of production. No dev is going to want to publish a root that only works on the first week's production. That's like saying "look at me... I have a small p3n15". They won't give up until every OTA is cracked.
Mike
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Yes
I did no worries
I got the update not long after I left Sprint from purchase. I didnt think anything of it and took the update. Like one member has said, Netflix was not available to me until after I did the update.
If I'm in a bad situation with gaining root doing this update, oh well. Something is bound to happen after some time. No worries here.
I did both updates as soon as I pulled it out of the box.
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I did all of them hoping HTC keeps their word
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i didn't wanna but i had to
I did! Not worried about root, it will happen when it happens. Meanwhile, I'm great with the phone as it is, especially since you can get rid of a lot of the sprint bloat and move most apps to the sd card.
I ran it as soon as I activated the phone in hopes that it included the unlocked bootloader... needless to say, I was disappointed

To root or not to root,

Well with the new HTCDev unlocker tool. I am not so sure i want to root my phone just yet. From the videos i have watched you have to be connected to the net and have to receive a token during the root process. Could this possibly be a method that can void your warranty without a workaround? Would it be smarter to wait for a Dev community method?
I only ask this because, well i have the rooting/flashing itch. I am still funbling around with my phone and getting to know it. Yes people, i am one of those guys, the one who really misses the 4th menu button. So would it really be worth flashing while I am still getting used to the phone. Don't get me wrong the phone rocks even with 3 buttons, but is it worth rooting right away via the HTC Unlocker?
From what I understand, any root method will void your warranty. I have never had an issue getting a rooted phone replaced at Sprint. I always flashed a stock rom before taking it in.
Any root will void a warranty, HTC just has a way to track it with HTCdev. A community method just makes it easier to get away with..
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Kcarpenter said:
Any root will void a warranty, HTC just has a way to track it with HTCdev. A community method just makes it easier to get away with..
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Thx... appreciate the response, its exactly what was on my mind... Except my missing menu button..
Purchase insurance on your phone and you shouldn't have to worry about your warranty. I had my original Evo replaced after it had an unfortunate collision with a wall and the screen no longer worked. I took it into the Sprint store to try and get it repaired, but they told me they couldn't and to file a claim online. The next day, I had a 3D in my hands. My 4G was rooted with S-OFF, but of course they couldn't tell since the screen didn't work.
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
How did you install Foxfi? It says the app is not compatible with my 4G LTE and shows the phone greyed out.
Tnman7 said:
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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Why would you have to go back and forth? Someone always releases a rooted stock rom within hours of it's release by HTC, all you would do is either flash that or wait for the developer of your rom to update to the new OTA. As for OTA's, if and when we have a root and s-off method it's not only possible but likely that you wouldn't be able to use it if you updated your phone. Within weeks of the s-off on the EVO 3D there was an OTA patching it. I haven't rooted yet but I wouldn't accept any OTA's just in case. I still may return my phone due to data issues.
Tnman7 said:
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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You could still get the update even while rooted.
I'll probably give it 2 weeks to make sure the hardware is okay.
Need to root for some privacy apps.
I can hear Pandora/Facebook/Twitter sucking my contacts, web history, and phone number without my permission as we speak.
I used the HTC unlock method on my 3D and didn't hesitate to do it on my new Evo LTE. It was well worth it.
For what it's worth, I had to bring my 3D in to sprint to have the touch screen replaced when it randomly went bad and they never said anything about my phone having an unlocked bootloader... They don't care.
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mugsaway said:
How did you install Foxfi? It says the app is not compatible with my 4G LTE and shows the phone greyed out.
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You have to go directly to foxfi to get the APK a google search will bring you there. It is not in the market. It works fine on my phone, now I wait for second round LTE then I can get better speeds.
Edit: found this, may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26554223
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My og evo was rooted and I was very flash happy with it. But the last 6 months I had it I actually got sick of flashing (gasp). I think the constant need to re setup my phone just got old. As of now I have no plans of rooting it. I like it the way it is. I've gone "iphoney" and just want it to work lol.
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Tnman7 said:
I am going to hold off for a while on Rooting. I have a feeling there will be a few OTA updates to fix minor things and don't want to have to go back and forth to get updates. I was 100% set on rooting until I found out that foxfi works out of the box! no need (for now) for me to root!
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Devs here are usually pretty good at baking in the ota's into their roms in a quick manner though.
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Rooted RAZR's not getting OTA?

Here is a conversation I had over at Motorola Live Chat. Looks like If you rooted your phone your not going to get the ICS update over the air
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
ME: Oh hi
ME: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
ME: Why havn't I recieved it?
Denz: We apologize for the inconvenience. Please allow me to assist you with that.
Denz: May I know your location?
ME: Phoenix
Denz: Please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the IMEI.
ME: serial number of my phone?
Denz: Yes.
ME: ***********
Denz: I will need to check some performance related information from your device will that be okay?
ME: what are you checking?
ME: Data speeds?
Denz: I will need to check the eligibility of your phone for ICS
ME: oh ok
Denz: Thanks. One moment.
Denz: Has the software been modified?
ME: Software?
Denz: The operating system. Have you "rooted" or downloaded a 3rd party OS/software/
ME: Im not very techie what do you mean?
ME: Oh I ley my brother root my phone
ME: So I can't get the OYA?
Denz: I see.
Denz: Hold on.
ME: OTA*
Denz: You still have the option the option of sending your device in and paying for a repair evaluation.The flat rate repair fee for rooted devices is currently the same as the Out Of Warranty fee That's $159 plus tax.
ME: Repair what?
ME: My phone works
Denz: Yes, the only way we could get it back to the original version so you can get the ICS update is to send the phone in.
ME: Lol how am i supposed to get phone calls from important ppl?
ME: you guys are funny
ME: Ill ask my bro what i need to do
ME: Thx for the help anyway
Denz: I understand where you're coming from. Prior to the update and since we released the phone, we had
Denz: advised phone users not to root the phone because they may not get future updates.
Denz: I'm sorry but you have the option to send it in.
ME: lol wish i got that advise. ive been getiing system updates
Denz: I mean specifically for ICS update.
ME: Thats fine no problem im sure my brother has a solutuion
Denz: Okay then. Is there anything else you need assistance with?
ME: No you have a nice day sir/ma'am
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Ignore this !!!!! I received the download and I am still rooted. Well don't ignore the fact that the Moto employee tried to sham me out of 159 bucks also ignore my bad grammer plox!
So if your phone is rooted you may or may not get the OTA ans WILL have to sideload.
It doesn't really matter if you've already side loaded now does it. Don't worry with silly moto. Just do with your phone what you wish and forget their silly nonsense. And I'm with the countless others that have stated in other threads. I believe they have some kind of tracking software that they aren't telling us about. I'm not saying its the same as carrier IQ but I'm sure its something similar.
That's crap I had my phone rooted prior to .181 and I got the ics OTA. Granted I lost root after .181 and I did a factory reset before getting .181. So that shouldn't be the problem.
My wife has a maxx and has never rooted or anything ans she still hasn't gotten ICS
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It is ofc bull****.
Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
Lol well know they have my serial number and the fact that im rooted so ill have to sideload later tonight when i have time. I also may wait a few days just to see how accurate this employees facts are.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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that is not true...i used razr utility to reverty back to stock .181 and had re-rooted it....then side loaded the official OTA .211 with razr utility 1.7 .....not a problem since !!!
just one thing i havent figured out is, how do i go back to stock .181 so i can recieve the OTA, like i said, i have had not one issue with sideloading it myself but i would still like to see the actual OTA...it would satisfy me lol
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I too was wondering. My folks got the OTA yesterday, on non-rooted MAXX's. My MAXX, rooted, has nothing.
Am I out of luck, and will I have to side-load the ICS?
I guess the question is anyone with root not in soak recieve OTA yet?
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Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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lucidvtec said:
Somebody try this again
But lie when they asknif ur rooted
Tell them its a hundred percent stock
See what they say then
I bet they have no way to tell
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They didn't even ask....
George: Hi, my name is George. How may I help you?
Tim Timmons: I want to know what the problem is with the ICS OTA for RAZR
Tim Timmons: I still haven't gotten it, but my folks with MAXX phones, have.
Tim Timmons: and we live in the same town
Tim Timmons: ??
George: Sorry for that wait
George: We do apologize for the inconvenience. Do not worry, we will do our best to assist you on this.
George: Let me check that for you
Tim Timmons: thanks
George: Now I need the system number of the phone just for a documentation purposes, May I have it please?
George: The system version will be Setting > About phone > System Version
Tim Timmons: XXXXXXXXXXX(IEMEI)
George: Thank you
George: I have tried to check this information in my end and I regret to say that we do not have the exact date about when will be release.however the Update is been going on at the moment. .the update will be pushed out by Motorola in batches to all users over a few week time period.So kindly wait for the notification to be send to your phone.
Tim Timmons: 6.12.181.xt912.verizon.en.us
Tim Timmons: But how is it sent - by locale, or what?
Tim Timmons: and how did you check? You asked for version info, and before I gave it to you, you had a canned response....Can you check again, please?
George: It's gonna be send randomly
George: Yes, I was able to check with my system. sorry, i only needed your system version for documentation purposes.
George: The update will randomly send by our Engineer. And it all users will receive the update batches to batches in over a few week time period.
Just went to Moto's website and did the chat with rep. They explained to me that they are still doing just the test users at this point with Verizon customers and that I will most likely be receiving it over the next couple of weeks.
The "Supervisor" I spoke with later was able to tell me that they can check via a application they have, if I am rooted, my IP, and a few other things.
And......those that are stock, rooted, will not get the OTA.
I don't know whether to wait impatiently, or attempt side-loading ICS.
I just talked to them to and the serial number some how tells them that the device has been rooted.
I even unrooted just to see.
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Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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Pretty sure I saw a few posts in the forum from people who got the update while rooted, just they lost root and rerooted.
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Well, from what I've been reading... If ur phone is rooted, you cant even side load ICS. So it would make sense that they wouldnt push the ota to a rooted device. I'm sure they have a way of knowing if ur rooted or not..
That being said... Theres always the option to flash back to stock, and wait for the ota, or side load it. I personally chose flashing stock, then side loading. I like fresh installs, especially with an upgrade this size. Less variables = lees chance for errors... but thats just me
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I'm rooted and sideloaded ics.
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cheatthepocket said:
Well i think im just gonna sideload ot anyway. I just need to find the best barney style instructions. Im rooted, i dont use roms so im stock so i just need the best surefire way to make this happen. Sounds like to me though, moto and Verizon are punishing root users for no reason. I love moto phones but this may be my last one that i buy.
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On here mickievminnie has an on device way that i used and is very straight forward. It might hang up at one or two points but then you just redo it.
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so it sounds like they can tell if your rooted and even if you unroot with voodoo ota rootkeeper they can still see that your phone is root and maybe they will not be sending out the ota to us rooted folks so maybe it is wise to unroot for a couple of days or a week just to see what happens

Unlock Bootloader, Post OTA update

Received my replacement phone with OTA update installed. I had ViperDNA on the phone that broke, and miss it very much. :crying: Now, every couple hours, I search through XDA DNA forum, hoping to find our fabulous dev's have found a way arround this formidable roadblock. Thought maybe I'll start a thread all of us in the same boat can watch, and maybe chat, until this egg is cracked. If any dev's have any news for us, that would be great also. :fingers-crossed:
Hi I'm in the same boat. I got this phone yesterday for the first time and did the noob move of updating ota. So I'm just hanging around waiting I'm not even sure where we're supposed to check for news on this.
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ickedmel said:
Hi I'm in the same boat. I got this phone yesterday for the first time and did the noob move of updating ota. So I'm just hanging around waiting I'm not even sure where we're supposed to check for news on this.
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The current unlock thread would be a good place to look.
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If you haven't unlocked and have the OTA then you can't unlock until a new method is found.
Is it possible, if I have never unlocked the bootloader or got CID because of latest OTA (2.04.605.2 71RD), to revert back to previous firmware by flashing RUU? would I then be able to run SuperCID apk, get CID and unlock bootloader?
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Is it possible, if I have never unlocked the bootloader or got CID because of latest OTA (2.04.605.2 71RD), to revert back to previous firmware by flashing RUU? would I then be able to run SuperCID apk, get CID and unlock bootloader?
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Sorry no, firmware updates are one way only. There's no going back.
Bigandrewgold said:
The current unlock thread would be a good place to look.
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There is no "current" unlock thread. There was an unlock thread from Nov 26th, then another one from Feb 7th. Also, there's an all in one tool kit from Jan 23rd, and a complete guide to root, too. All of these worked with the old firmware.
I'm pretty sure when a new unlock procedure is found, it will get it's own thread.
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There is no "current" unlock thread. There was an unlock thread from Nov 26th, then another one from Feb 7th. Also, there's an all in one tool kit from Jan 23rd, and a complete guide to root, too. All of these worked with the old firmware.
I'm pretty sure when a new unlock procedure is found, it will get it's own thread.
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Thanks
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Thank goodness this phone is amazing even while stock. I just upgraded from the rezound, and even at its peak, rooted and overclocked to the max, it's nothing compared to this beast. Have you seen the benchmarks?? Unreal. Can't wait to unlock the true potential eventually, but this'll hold me till then, lol
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nb1201 said:
Is it possible, if I have never unlocked the bootloader or got CID because of latest OTA (2.04.605.2 71RD), to revert back to previous firmware by flashing RUU? would I then be able to run SuperCID apk, get CID and unlock bootloader?
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I tried RUU, multiple times, no go. Just got my replacement phone 2 days ago, like a noob first thing I did was OTA, I thought there was an unlock, wasn't until after I did I realized I should have gotten the unlock.bin FIRST.
I even tried to use the unlock.bin from the DNA I hard bricked. Ofcourse I knew that wouldn't work, but had to try. For 45 plus shipping I guess you can send it to someone and they JTAG and S-off. I looked up how to do it, the box you need is 200$ and you need to take the phone apart, remove battery, and all sorts of junk. I could have unbricked my other DNA with the JTAG method. I would rather wait to see if these guys figure it out. BTW do we know if anyone is even looking into it?
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I tried RUU, multiple times, no go. Just got my replacement phone 2 days ago, like a noob first thing I did was OTA, I thought there was an unlock, wasn't until after I did I realized I should have gotten the unlock.bin FIRST.
I even tried to use the unlock.bin from the DNA I hard bricked. Ofcourse I knew that wouldn't work, but had to try. For 45 plus shipping I guess you can send it to someone and they JTAG and S-off. I looked up how to do it, the box you need is 200$ and you need to take the phone apart, remove battery, and all sorts of junk. I could have unbricked my other DNA with the JTAG method. I would rather wait to see if these guys figure it out. BTW do we know if anyone is even looking into it?
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Of course they are looking into it they have a few root methods but they are still trying to remove write protect from /system otherwise root is pointless.
SHANENATAS said:
I tried RUU, multiple times, no go. Just got my replacement phone 2 days ago, like a noob first thing I did was OTA, I thought there was an unlock, wasn't until after I did I realized I should have gotten the unlock.bin FIRST.
I even tried to use the unlock.bin from the DNA I hard bricked. Ofcourse I knew that wouldn't work, but had to try. For 45 plus shipping I guess you can send it to someone and they JTAG and S-off. I looked up how to do it, the box you need is 200$ and you need to take the phone apart, remove battery, and all sorts of junk. I could have unbricked my other DNA with the JTAG method. I would rather wait to see if these guys figure it out. BTW do we know if anyone is even looking into it?
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"If these guys figure it out"??????
Really? It's a puzzle. The Devs here live for figuring out puzzles. It's what they do for fun. It's why we have awesome ROMs etc. They WILL figure it out. Until then we just have to be a little patient. If patience isn't your thing, mail your phone away to MobileTechVideos. I'm interested in hearing first hand if they really do have it cracked. Me personally, I enjoy the rooting process. Doing it myself is half the fun. I'll wait. I got time.
sdamark said:
"If these guys figure it out"??????
Really? It's a puzzle. The Devs here live for figuring out puzzles. It's what they do for fun. It's why we have awesome ROMs etc. They WILL figure it out. Until then we just have to be a little patient. If patience isn't your thing, mail your phone away to MobileTechVideos. I'm interested in hearing first hand if they really do have it cracked. Me personally, I enjoy the rooting process. Doing it myself is half the fun. I'll wait. I got time.
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Okay maybe I should have said When and not if lol.
SHANENATAS said:
I tried RUU, multiple times, no go. Just got my replacement phone 2 days ago, like a noob first thing I did was OTA, I thought there was an unlock, wasn't until after I did I realized I should have gotten the unlock.bin FIRST.
I even tried to use the unlock.bin from the DNA I hard bricked. Ofcourse I knew that wouldn't work, but had to try. For 45 plus shipping I guess you can send it to someone and they JTAG and S-off. I looked up how to do it, the box you need is 200$ and you need to take the phone apart, remove battery, and all sorts of junk. I could have unbricked my other DNA with the JTAG method. I would rather wait to see if these guys figure it out. BTW do we know if anyone is even looking into it?
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This gives me hope my replacement will be original stock and not the OTA! Had to get a replacment that will show up tomorrow as my screen has a "dead" touchscreen line through it across the screen horizontally (right between the 3rd and 4th row of app shortcuts on the homescreen.
It's really weird...I cannot move any shortcuts in the 4th row above and any shortcuts in rows 1-3, I can move freely but not into the 4th row.
typing on the stock keyboard id doable, but any ttype of swype method (which I need and depend on, is impossible).
If it ships with the OTA I will be bummed
bakemcbride21 said:
This gives me hope my replacement will be original stock and not the OTA! Had to get a replacment that will show up tomorrow as my screen has a "dead" touchscreen line through it across the screen horizontally (right between the 3rd and 4th row of app shortcuts on the homescreen.
It's really weird...I cannot move any shortcuts in the 4th row above and any shortcuts in rows 1-3, I can move freely but not into the 4th row.
typing on the stock keyboard id doable, but any ttype of swype method (which I need and depend on, is impossible).
If it ships with the OTA I will be bummed
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:fingers-crossed: I wish you luck
sdamark said:
:fingers-crossed: I wish you luck
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thank you! I'll know around 3pm tomorrow!
bakemcbride21 said:
thank you! I'll know around 3pm tomorrow!
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This sucks...replacmeent came with 2.04 OTA....I might as well have a friggin lame iPhone at this point lol
bakemcbride21 said:
This sucks...replacmeent came with 2.04 OTA....I might as well have a friggin lame iPhone at this point lol
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No. Just.... no.
When you get the replacement can you just look at the software version on the box before opening it and if it's the new software send it back and say the box looked damaged and ask them to send a new one with the hope it has the old software?
orangechoochoo said:
When you get the replacement can you just look at the software version on the box before opening it and if it's the new software send it back and say the box looked damaged and ask them to send a new one with the hope it has the old software?
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I manage my company's smartphone account...my rep would get pretty PO'd at me if I kept sending phones back and getting new ones shipped FedEx overnight...lol...but if I was an individual consumer account I would be doing that.
We actually only pay $50/month for 450 min pooled, unlimited data, text and MMS....helluva deal!

[Q] Still no one could unlock the bootloader of Photon 4g 2.3.5 OTA?

Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
mopo
whizinc said:
Alright so new member here i have been using XDA to unlock and flash zip,kernals etc in android devices since 4 years.. i would like to thank this site :good:
Now straight to my point
Okay so I bought a Photon 4g 2 weeks ago and my bad luck its on 2.3.5 (I dont know if its factory 2.3.5 or OTA because i bought it from a friend who knows nothing about it) which means its bootlaoder is locked for good.. I did the ReservedOdm check and got "30000000000030003000100000000" which means =Electrify who performed OTA update to 2.3.5 and now stuck never unlocked) As the thread says.
Moreover I saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072644 by @nickman529 and I was really shocked to see that a 45 pages thread with skilled people couldnt unlock the 2.3.5 version of MoPhon. (I did not read the whole thread but i guess you guys couldnt found a solution) So my question is still in 2014 there's no method to unlock this beastly phone? an updated android OS is a must for this phone. We should do something as there are hundreds of people still waiting for XDA guys to come up with a solution.
I am not a newbie in this developing thing nor I am a developer I know In's and outs of unlocking etc.
I would really appreciate if XDA skilled guys will work on this again atleast we can do something? unlocking a bootloader of a phone is not impossible right? just that we need to work again on this. I want to get this done. Thank You :good:
Some details of my phone:
I flashed superuser with "Photon Torpedo Direct" method so I have root enabled
Build: 4.5.1A-1 SUN254_13
2.3.5
Hope I will get some replies as this is my first thread on XDA
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i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
ultimo123 said:
i've same problem and it will be good to resolve this issue by xda devs... this is really good phone and is sorrowful to see how this topic stayed inattentive
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yeah i think the Skilled XDA guys just gave up on this phone and its a shame that these skilled guys couldnt figure out a way to unlock this MoPhon atleast we can start work on this again COME ON Guys! the thread is being inactive please show some humanity.
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
kaleemhunter said:
Maybe it will be solved by developers sooon .. They could be working on it .. will be a way to get rid of this problem ..
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i am afraid to tell you brother but there is no development under process of photon 4g the people on 2.3.5 are locked for good and its a misery for the developers too that they couldnt unlock it.. A replacement of another new model will be the only way to use new android versions lol :good:
check out Motorolla Moto G it has official upgrade of kitkat its affordable too :good:
photon
.. I've photon 2.3.5 and locked for sure.. hoping on dev to get a way out there..
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
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boxorandyos said:
come on guys I've got a few posts on here over the years about this lol I have a new account here since so I don't know where all those posts are.
sadly I have no clue what I did or how the heck I did it!
I bought the photon the day after it came out and used it for quite a while on sprint. I received the ota update to 2.3.5.
then when my contract expired I spent hours and hours and finally rooted and unlocked my phone and put it on straight talk. it was on the ota update so I was told I wouldn't be able to do it but somehow I did.
more recently I have a new issue with mine which is why I am back on here again but I am very disappointed I never had the chance to figure out how I did it.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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brother we are talking about the bootloader unlock of photon 4g devices on 2.3.5 please clear that did you unlocked the bootloader or just unlocked your phone?? and whats your the problem you are facing now? let me know. I can help
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I can't guarantee but I figured what I did would be called unlocking the bootloader. I do know I received the ota update as I remember having trouble with the phone after doing it so I was on 2.3.5 for sure. I do not remember what I did when unlocking it but it was completely factory plus the ota when I started and by the time I was done I had root access and I was running cm7 and I could put in my straight talk sim card and I had talk, text, mms, and data. that would be an unlocked bootloader if I'm right?
what I'm facing now is I get a message saying something about the modem did not start when ever I try turning the phone on.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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if you have your photon with you right now then take a look at its bootloader open it and it must say UNLOCKED if not then your bootloader is still locked..
so the modem error comes and the mobile doesn't works?? I think its a hardware problem as far as i know
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
yea it does say unlocked in the corner of the bootloader screen.
I got the error when I tried flashing an update to my ROM. I don't know whether it flashed something that did that our if it was just coincidence that something went wrong with the hardware at the same time. I tried flashing it back to the old version and that did not fix the problem.
-boxorandyos
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what really? it says unlocked that it means the bootloader is unlocked how the hell did you unlocked your bootloader on 2.3.5? you have to remember it brother?
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
boxorandyos said:
I honestly have no clue this was only like the third phone I ever unlocked and I've done dozens since. this was back right after the ota came out.
all I remember is I spent days and days trying to figure it out. if I had another phone I might work on it again as that's a really nice phone but I don't really expect to ever land on one of them again.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
A friend brought me a photon of his he is wanting to use with straight talk Sim , It is on 2.3.5 ota I believe but don't know . Have tried to unlock the boot loader but keep getting (FAILED (remote: (00180001))) when I try to get the unlock key. It has root but does not register the straight talk Sim and I felt unlocking the boot loader would help me fix this issue but am finding I can't .can anyone help am open to any suggestions. Pls know though I am still learning how to use the adb, fastboot, and know little about rsd (can't get it to even pick up the phone)
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I have an OTA-locked one that's fairly cosmetically beat up. New replacement battery. USB port cracked off just enough that normal USB cables work but car dock does not. Otherwise I *think* it's fine - I gave up on peetr's decrapped stock ROM, which is good I gotta say, and bought an unlocked one on eBay.
I'd give it to you free but I am literally sweating out my rent check. Would you be willing to part with $25 for it, includes shipping?
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woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
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Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
boxorandyos said:
woops I must have missed this. I can do that as soon as I get some people to pay what they owe me. right now I am behind on some bills by quite a bit but I am hoping that will get taken care of shortly. do bug me about it and I'll do that.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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fuzzy7k said:
Hi guys, I'm new to ARM devices, but I have a lot linux experience and a fair amount of Android experience, as I've done some device porting work at android-x86.org.
I was recently given a photon 4G with a locked bootloader, 30000000000030003000100000000
My question is, what is so special about the bootloader that it can't be replaced by another bootloader. I was just looking at the thread to put Arch Linux on the Photon, but that thread seems to have stalled and I can not ask any questions there because I do not have 10 posts yet.
I am guessing the kernel image cannot be replaced with a locked bootloader? I read the post by peetr_ about SBF's & CG's & signatures, but when are the signatures checked, at flash time or every boot? I dd'd the boot partition to /tmp/boot.img and pulled it to my linux workstation but I've not been able to mount it. Mount thinks it's NTFS, is that what a .smg is? NTFS in some sort of container?
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Forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know, but here are a few random tidbits of info:
The OTA update blew a hardware fuse which somehow prevents bootloader unlock by any known methods
The only ROMs that can be flashed with the bootloader locked are ones using the stock kernel as-is, like peetr's ROM, so I think your guess about the kernel image becoming set in stone is correct.
Don't know anything else but I also have an OTA-locked one which I could run stuff on and get you output, if you want it, and an unlocked one (pre OTA update) running CM9. As long as it doesn't mess up my devices I could provide you with debug info.
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Sure thing, I starred the notice of this in my email program and will get back on this thread next time I go thru my backlog if I haven't heard from you.
Funny how we're all in some way participating in all this work that manufacturers should've done, and a lot of us are broke.
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I will try an remember to get back to you
there is one thing I was just thinking about that I do remember thinking about afterwards. whatever I did that made it work may have stemmed from what I later discovered was a corrupted file. I remember downloading file after file and trying to flash dozens of different files. every time I was getting all sorts of errors. suddenly tho I got a different error and after that when I would try throwing commands at the phone I would get completely different responses. my memory is very limited of it all but I thought I was completely screwed.
somehow tho I suddenly had a phone with the pre ota software on it.
whatever exactly it was that I messed up I have no clue without trying to re create the story.
-boxorandyos
<sent from my nexus4>
Hey guys. Nickman529 here. Sorry I haven't ever updated anything on that thread. I don't have the MoPho anymore but I'd be willing to start up development if someone would wanna send me one or donate the PayPal funds for such. I hear your cries.

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