Hey everyone had a question about the jb update. Sense i updated ive ran benchmarks and im getting results for native score the same or less than the gs3. Before on ics it ran much higher than the gs3. Can anyone tell me why this is or if anyone else is having the same results im using cf bench btw. Also my battery percentage is going up and down on its own without charging jumping multiple percentages.
Are benchmarks really a big deal? The phone flies and is perfectly smooth
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Like tdnick said, its just a benchmark. The phone runs much smoother than before so I wouldn't take it too seriously.
I have to say mine is slower in most ways.
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chrisphoenix7 said:
I have to say mine is slower in most ways.
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LGNPST back to ICS. :good:
Odd I'm getting very close to the same benches on ICS and the stock JB.
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I may be wrong but I think the default I/O is fiops. Change to deadline for that placebo effect of high benchmark scores. (Or the other way around. I have no idea what fiops is lol.) :3
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I just felt it was running much slower than ics and thats what made me check the benchmarks and they were way down. Im going to factory reset and then reinstall jb. Lol well see how this goes.
Related
AnTuTu Stock cpu speeds
scores - SGII = 5777
HSPDA = 18 Mbps
picture of bench mark
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At&t samsung galaxy 2 vs Verizon bionic
scores - SGII = 5777 Bionic=4955
Here is a video with benchmark and hsdpa speeds.
youtube.com/watch?v=dRW66yTMcOg
Quadrant
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I constantly see reviewers refer to this phone as the fastest one available, but a number of benchmarks showed it being beaten by the LG Optimus 2x..how does that work? Even better GPU?
Samsung cap there Gpu at 60 frames
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I constantly see reviewers refer to this phone as the fastest one available, but a number of benchmarks showed it being beaten by the LG Optimus 2x..how does that work? Even better GPU?
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I constantly see reviewers refer to this phone as the fastest one available, but a number of benchmarks showed it being beaten by the LG Optimus 2x..how does that work? Even better GPU?
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I would not to much faith on benchmarks. Sure their cool to see. But in the end, through user interaction, screen scrolls, etc. It's all relative. This phone is a beast, it will still be for another year when it's replaced by the Galaxy S III and it will laugh at the iPhone 5.
My Benchmarks on Stock
Here are my benchmarks using Quadrant on the stock ROM. It should be alot better (if thats possible) on a custom ROM.
That's what I got
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I get that easily on a stock leaked 2.3.5 AT&T Captivate ROM.
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I don't know if I can believe that, this has better hardware all the way around.
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I will post a picture later. When I have my phone, left it at home and I'm at a friends house.
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I don't know if I can believe that, this has better hardware all the way around.
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But it's also not 2.3.5 on the SGSII.
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I get that easily on a stock leaked 2.3.5 AT&T Captivate ROM.
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Yeah but if you used quadrant pro and saw the score broken down you'd understand that it is just artificially inflated. There are multiple tweaks that boost quadrant benchmarks that do nothing noticeable otherwise.
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I used to be getting 3200-3600 on my gs 2 but ever since I flashed unnamed 1.3 and icscrewed 1.1 I've been getting score ranging from 2800-3200
Is this suppose to happen?
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The numbers mean absolutely nothing as far as how the phone runs. If they go up or down doesn't mean anything unless you like showing off your epeen....
Benchmarks don't mean that much (except large differences 1000+). How quick does the phone respond? Does it feel fast? If so great. If not, keep working.
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I see.
I'm not a least bit regret about flashing unnamed because my phone is ridiculously fast right now.
I guess quadrant score really doesn't mean anything lol
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honghsien5 said:
I used to be getting 3200-3600 on my gs 2 but ever since I flashed unnamed 1.3 and icscrewed 1.1 I've been getting score ranging from 2800-3200
Is this suppose to happen?
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really? you should be getting around 9,999,999 if you're using quadrant. thats about how accurate that app is. its a worthless piece of junk that you shouldn't use to measure the speed of your device dude. just use your phone and weight it out from real-world user experience.
I saw this in Reddit today and thought I'd post it to the EVO forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
Yes i saw this on reddit too, have you tried it out yet?
I tried it out, there is actually a speed boost. Although I think my battery suffered a bit.
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nice find! i need to start checking out other threads/sections on xda.. i always just stay in what ever phone i have at the time thread.. there's alot of other cool issh goin on else where :good:
I too saw that on Reddit. I tried it out on my Evo running Stock w/ Goodies, and on my Nexus 7. Installed, rebooted, and played a bit to let things "settle in", and there is definitely a noticeable improvement in speed and responsiveness, on what were already pretty swift and smooth devices.
I haven't tried it yet, but will soon. If this works out in the long run, hopefully the devs can put this in their roms. I wonder if Google knows about this...
Anyone do a quadrant on this yet? I'm curious if it really works or its just a placebo. Also, how is battery life?
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Haven't looked much into this but improvements of this nature usually have a decent drawback.... Ie battery life...
interested in some results though if anyone does it
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I'm using it and it seems good
6000 is without 6200 is with
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I've done it. Its hard to tell given this was already fast but I haven't lagged, benchmarks up a few hundred.
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Overclocked at 1.8 with it off
Overclocked at 1.8 with it on
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Interesting, probably works similar to linaro. Looking forward to what our dev's say about it...
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Directions seem to be hard to come by in that thread... I installed the apk in it, and also flashed a zip file that was referenced in one of the last pages. Doesn't seem to make a bit of difference... As a reference, though, I benchmarked a 6700 on basically stock JellyBean a few weeks back. Still have the screen shot from it saved.
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Directions seem to be hard to come by in that thread... I installed the apk in it, and also flashed a zip file that was referenced in one of the last pages. Doesn't seem to make a bit of difference... As a reference, though, I benchmarked a 6700 on basically stock JellyBean a few weeks back. Still have the screen shot from it saved.
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All you need is the .apk, toggle, check & reboot.
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Come on guys, running a benchmark to see if it works is a total waste of time. I can run the same benchmark 10 different times and get10 totally different scores without applying any mods at all.
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Come on guys, running a benchmark to see if it works is a total waste of time. I can run the same benchmark 10 different times and get10 totally different scores without applying any mods at all.
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I know someone asked for them so I did them
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Come on guys, running a benchmark to see if it works is a total waste of time. I can run the same benchmark 10 different times and get10 totally different scores without applying any mods at all.
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This is better:
Enter this in a terminal to see if its working.
watch -n 1 cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
3000+ & its doing its job. (Per that thread)
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tried it on my Sony S, doesn't really appear to do anything... then agian I wasn't having lag issues...
Also, this shouldn't affect quadrant... just random lags
Cyanogenmod himself posted in that thread saying that there is something going on, but he doesn't know what exactly it is... However there is a mild speedup according to him. He just doesn't know why
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Cyanogenmod himself posted in that thread saying that there is something going on, but he doesn't know what exactly it is... However there is a mild speedup according to him. He just doesn't know why
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From what little I know about entropy pools, the larger this pool (a pool of random actions right?) is & the faster your programs/inputs are able to access it. The more responsive they'll be.
I could be very wrong but this is what I assume is happening here.
This pool that continusly dumps & fills for however many seconds is about 300-400 nomally on our device. With the tweak the pool is 3000+, I think the tweak also increases the speed of the refresh to access the pool by 1 second.
So 1 second (every second this -> 4 digit figure randomly fills & dumps) + 3000+ accessable random numbers (actions) vs. undetermined number of seconds & a pool avg or 300-400.
Again I'm guessing. I haven't spoke of this since my Eee PC & that might've been for a kernal.
I imagine it as a hand/s repeatedly reaching for a few hundered chocolates spinning in a whirlwind (before) & a ton of random chocolates with even faster hands reaching for a few thousand chocolates spinning in the whilrwind (after).
Just wondering what other's benchmark scores were on Antutu? Do you have your phone OC'ed? Mine was always around 8200 however after trying out a new kernel to fix my call audio issue the benchmark fell to 7800.. Is that a big difference? It seems that all of the devices scoring over 9k are all on 4.1.2, is there really anything to that? Just kind of wanted to get a discussion going since I do not see any other threads about it on the Q&A section.
Edit- Well I just moved my apps back to the sd after doing all of the flashing and now it's back up to 8228!
Good info. Did you run the stability tests also and were they the same at the higher speeds. Also are you using the paid version or free? Thanks
Edit: Mine were only 7377. And I see there is no paid version. Seems I have work to do to speed things up..
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Of course no comparison between users is possible because speeds depend more on the cellular/data traffic at the tower you are connected to than the ROM/modem you are trying to measure.
These measurements can be slightly useful for a user to compare ROMs/modems in the area they typically use their service.
Your difference of 400 is the size of a text message, so no, not significant. But it feels better, I'm sure.
It's checking the speed of the CPU, ram, video and SD card read/ write right? What difference would modem and such have?
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The OP mentioned call audio issues, and benchmarks, so I thought he was measuring network speed. If I assumed incorrectly, please forgive me.
Yeah maybe your right now that I re-read it. And I just loaded the program so really don't know what all it measures..
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I was more or less just wondering if the stats were changed based on what kernel or ROM you may be running or if there was something else that could change the performance. After seeing the sgs4 benchmarks I feel like that phone must be the smoothest thing ever because it is head and shoulders better scores than the note.
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Sorry for the double post but ranger are you sure it is testing the download/upload? I did not think that was included.
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Hey guys so I just upgraded to the s4 and for some reason it seems laggy and slow . Now I did install safe strap root and flashed hyper and jelly but there was a lag feeling to it compared to my note 2. Titanium takes longer to restore same number if apps and even adding a gmail account its has some lag. So I went back to stock rooted to try this. Anyone else have this happen? I thought the s4 would be faster than n2.
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Nope. Lag free over here! Running SynergyROM
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Nope. Lag free over here! Running SynergyROM
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Using Safe strap ?
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Nope. I was lucky to have an MDK build.
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Hey guys so I just upgraded to the s4 and for some reason it seems laggy and slow . Now I did install safe strap root and flashed hyper and jelly but there was a lag feeling to it compared to my note 2. Titanium takes longer to restore same number if apps and even adding a gmail account its has some lag. So I went back to stock rooted to try this. Anyone else have this happen? I thought the s4 would be faster than n2.
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This phone is smoking for me, even under clocked. I'm mdk. My wife is me7 it's smoking too not rooted. Mine is a little faster though. debloating makes a difference I guess.
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Can you do a benchmark? Atut or whatever ?
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I did antutu the first custom test near top of page. I got 27841 as a score. Maybe I should unroot and do a full system restore?
Wonder if 4.3 will be boot loader unlocked
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thrgk said:
I did antutu the first custom test near top of page. I got 27841 as a score. Maybe I should unroot and do a full system restore?
Wonder if 4.3 will be boot loader unlocked
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I have gotten as high as 29000 something or other without overclocking the CPU. I think I was on Hyperdrive. I'd think vanir would smoke. That is one fast rom. Just did a run of that benchmark on eclipse 2.0. I have very modified kernel settings. Aimed @ a mix of battery and performance and scored 26500. Underclocked CPU.
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Maybe having to use the module kernel since I'm me 7 doesn't let me get good battery or performance ?
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Will 4.3 be boot loader unlocked ?
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Will 4.3 be boot loader unlocked ?
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Officially? No, it'll be locked down like any other release. After that? Who knows, we'll just have to wait to see if someone will be able to do it.
What kind of lag are you experiencing exactly? Mine used to stutter a lot more than it does now... here's what I did to fix mine:
1) Freeze/uninstall all bloat of course
2) In Dev options change all window animations to .5 (or off if you want)
3) Turn off Lock Screen animations (water drop/light effect) <--- this made the biggest difference oddly
4) Install Nova launcher and don't use too many home screen widgets
5) (Optional) I use a program called Clean Master which will clean up junk files and cache for you
My S4 still isn't completely lag free, it does still stutter from time to time during heavy multitasking but I think that's just the nature of a heavy skin like Touchwiz running in the background. Unfortunately I have ME7 so comparing it to AOSP is out of the question right now (I don't really want to run Safe Strap at the moment).
There are also other things I haven't tried like Greenify-ing apps and whatnot, but for now I'm happy with how it's acting.
Opening apps up and unlocking phone was laggu for me. I'll try what you suggested. I'm hoping I can either trade my phone for a mdk version or 4.3 becomes unlockable
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Will 4.3 be boot loader unlocked ?
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I'm not sure. I doubt it. I have been hopeful that a dev is sitting on an exploit waiting until the 4.3 update to release it so there is not a opportunity to patch it. But as far as I know right now there is no exploit for the me7 boot loader and no prospects on the horizon.
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For some reason my android system is 69% . is there a quick fix for that ? Not sure why it went so high. Even more then screen time
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For some reason my android system is 69% . is there a quick fix for that ? Not sure why it went so high. Even more then screen time
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Usually that is related to WiFi location being checked in location settings. Uncheck it and the usage will go down.
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OK this is weird. So I have juice defender and freenift installed. Now I what's happening is I'm using the phone and say it drops 5% in zxx minutes. I when I come back a hour later its only 3% down. Its like IRS charging itself lol. Does this mean its not calibrated properly and is not reading it correctly there for maybe its giving false information ?
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My wife and I both have MDK phones. They both lag. TW is a fat bloated pig with poor performance. It's a shame, I was really happy with the S3 and the S4 is just such a let down in so many ways.
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My wife and I both have MDK phones. They both lag. TW is a fat bloated pig with poor performance. It's a shame, I was really happy with the S3 and the S4 is just such a let down in so many ways.
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My wife has a S3 and I also had one before I upgraded to the S4. Initially this phone felt slower to me too but after rooting and installing a stock debloated rom it seems plenty fast. I rarely notice any lag at all....maybe after about 10 days without rebooting. My wifes S3 is SLOW as heck now which is really strange. I tried factory resetting it and last weekend flashed it in Odin...still slow.....her phone is insanely slow compared to mine.
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My wife has a S3 and I also had one before I upgraded to the S4. Initially this phone felt slower to me too but after rooting and installing a stock debloated rom it seems plenty fast. I rarely notice any lag at all....maybe after about 10 days without rebooting. My wifes S3 is SLOW as heck now which is really strange. I tried factory resetting it and last weekend flashed it in Odin...still slow.....her phone is insanely slow compared to mine.
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Yeah, maybe my expectations were too high. I was running bonestock and it was the smoothest experience I had. But, the occasional home button lag, super slow dialer, and choppy performance during some game play and scrolling made the overall experience disappointing.
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Yeah, maybe my expectations were too high. I was running bonestock and it was the smoothest experience I had. But, the occasional home button lag, super slow dialer, and choppy performance during some game play and scrolling made the overall experience disappointing.
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I know it's fun to bash Touchwiz but I think a lot of lag issues still hide under Android itself... I'm hoping to see good results with the TRIM feature in 4.4 (not sure if it's in 4.3?) to totally get rid of lag across all Androids.
I completely agree with you though, Touchwiz is bloated and heavy and I prefer stock Android over all others.