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I'll start this thread noting that I've come from an iPhone 3GS and came to expect things to open and close smoothly. That being said, I do know that you need to keep an eye on open apps through a task manager and close out things that you don't need on the Android OS, but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I'm constantly nagged with keypresses lagging for over a second, half of the time when I'm trying to type quickly it will register a single button press as a long press and I end up getting the alt key instead of the plain letter.
I have a fresh load of the MoDaCo ROM and ever since I received the phone a week ago I've been severely disappointed. Attempting to answer phone calls ends up with the screen telling me to drag down to answer and is completely unresponsive, but sometimes answers the call and sometimes just turns on the speaker and mic, but doesn't connect the call.
I've removed footprints, as well as stocks from the base ROM to pull out anything I wouldn't need. My understanding is that should only have a positive impact on performance.
Menus are sluggish to say the least, often times taking 1-3 seconds just to open a sub-menu.
Did I just get a bum phone that someone tried to pawn off because there might be something wrong with it? Is this the behavior that people have been experiencing from the HTC Hero? Does anyone know a way to speed this little bugger up and make it useful?
I've installed the Overclock widget and set it to 528mhz and verified that it's still set there each time I've rebooted the phone, as well as using Android Task Manager to keep a select few applications as "do not close" so that the phone doesn't freak out and try to reload a bunch of apps.
I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
Please, help me actually want to keep my phone. I LOVE the Android OS, and I love the form factor and sound quality.
i came from a hermes to the hero.. and its fooking awsomes, the lag you are getting is non existant on my hero, its a stock t-moblie as i is on contract with it atm and dont wanna risk screwing up and my insurance says F U!
if they could make a hero with a iphone screen i would be be a very VERY happy man.
sure its just not the rom u flashed? try flashing another? i used to get hassel with my hermes if it did not like the rom (wm6.5 for one it hated it but some loved it)
I might try out another ROM, but the only one that I thought I'd seen was the MoDaCo. I will have to look around the forums to see if there are any others that I can attempt to flash to my Hero. I suppose if all else fails I can just get a rooted base ROM and install WiFi tethering from there, since it's an app that I use on a VERY regular basis.
I've never updated from the original 1.5 ROM I received on my unlocked white hero. It is a bit laggy when using the Sense UI. However, when I "revert" to the Android OS Home screen (by disabling Sense UI / Touch Flo) it is VERY responsive. And that is fine for me......
I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
pritsey said:
I have the Hero and an iPhone 3GS and the Hero is very laggy in comparison. We have a few Android devices here in work to test/evaluate and none f them are without lag. No matter what people say I can't help thinking that they are looking through rose tinted glasses or refure point blank that the device they chose coudl possibly be less than perfect.
If you use an iPhone 3GS along side the Hero then the lag is very apparent. Scrolling through TouchFLO, scrolling the menu, typing, all have lag no matter how often I use Takiller.
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Bear in mind android isn't there that long and the Iphone is... Iphone won't improve Android will.
I updated my hero to the last official rom and I don't think it lags at all.
But I didn't own an Iphone, so I wouldn't know how it compares to that.
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I'm about to throw this damn phone out the window currently. I absolutely loved my G1 when I had it, and this thing feels like it's two or three steps DOWN from that phone.
If that's the case, send the darn thing back. It's supposed to be faster then the G1 and I haven't heard anyone saying it's not except you. Also waiting 3?! seconds for a submenu seems impossible, they almost instantly pop up here.
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but I feel like this device just can't hang with other smartphones currently.
I had a diamond and had a play with the diamond 2, both don´t even come close to the hero, same with the touch HD
Sorry to say but I think yours has some issues that are not fixable by any software updates. Send it back.
Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
don't use swap, especially on a slow sd card. android will only be dragged down by using swap, because then it does not close applications automatically as long as it does not run out of memory.
also, using a faster sd card might improve your overall experience with modaco.
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Try not killing anything at all, and leaving Android to handle it. Whilst some people swear by task killers, others (myself included) don't use them and often we're the ones who don't seem to suffer from excessive lag!
BTW - comparing the Hero to the iPhone 3GS is always going to be a bit unfair, because the 3GS has a vastly superior processor. Comparisons to an iPhone 3G are far more apposite.
Regards,
Dave
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I should clarify myself with that. I try to kill things like Market, Facebook, UniWar and Browser through the day.
I notice that if I leave any of those apps open it's going to turn into a slideshow afterward. I would say that after having the phone turned on for more than 60 minutes, if I try to play UniWar, by the end of a few turns, the game has almost stopped responding as a whole. It's frustrating as the final decision to move back to the Android platform was the fact that this game was available here, since I play it with my officemate during the day.
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Unfortunately I purchased the phone from someone on another forum, so there is little/no chance of ever getting a replacement since I wasn't the person who originally purchased it.
I've tried reloading the MoDaCo 2.9 ROM with the Teknologist kernal after formatting my SD card and re-creating the ext2 and swap partitions.
It's running a bit faster, but it's still frustrating that this device is so slow in comparison to my wife's 3GS. I can type more than 1 letter per second on the keyboard and only occasionally get the problem with the key registering a long press.
I'm always killing unnecessary processes, but I find myself needing to reboot the phone several times a day to keep it running at a moderate clip.
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2.9 doesnt need a swap partition it uses compcache also upgrade to an ext3 or ext4 partition 2.9 is actually a blindingly fast rom.
Tried 2 hero's of some friends of mine yesterday, all the official latest htc rom.
And all of them respond like mine, no need for mcr 2.9 or whatever.
I've said it before, I don't think this is a rom problem, maybe defect ram memory or something.
I would definitely try disabling swapper. If you are using swapper, you are giving the Android memory management routines no chance to improve your experience because the don't know that you're out of physical memory and are swapping to flash memory that is going to be an order of magnitude or two slower than the physical RAM.
Regards,
Dave
So I've upgraded the Ext2 to an Ext3 partition and everything "felt" a little better, but I keep running into the fact that my phone just does NOT like to respond when woken up.
It's incredibly slow to be able to pull down the notification tab or move from the "main" screen in any way. I've ordered a new SD card and will reformat and only use the Data/Ext3 partition when possible, I'm just at a loss of why this type of behavior would happen.
Is this a result of using my phone to sync with my work Exchange server? I only have it set to ping the server every 15 minutes, but man, the phone becomes useless when it's attempting to sync over EDGE. I can't get ANY type of connectivity, even through games that only process 20-40k/hr data usage.
Are there "no-no" type applications to stay away from? I've removed every widget aside the WiFi toggle and Overclock Widget. I'm just tired of rebooting my phone every couple hours.
afaik there is no working overclock app/widget for hero, try removing that.
there is the option of wiping to see whether the problem continues.
seems to me like the Modaco rom is the problem. a lot of people are on the stock Hero rom and don't get any lag at all and certainly don't need to reboot the phone so often...
It's not the Modaco ROM - I've been using Modaco since the first versions, and it is fine.
HOWEVER.....
I've never bothered with Apps2SD or Swapper, and I'm pretty certain that Swapper is going to cause problems.
Regards,
Dave
I'm pretty sure the hero will never be as smooth or quick as the iPhone... you just have to decide whether you can live how smooth the hero is. On Mocado 2.8 and not using any task manager I definitely can.
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So I've received my 4gb Class 6 card, created a 1GB Ext3 partition, no swap partition and reloaded MoDaCo 2.9. I've also tried this with a stock rooted image as well. These results apply to both ROMs I've loaded.
At first it "felt" somewhat fast, but then after adding the following, it's just dreadfully slow.
Exchange email
UniWar
Handcent SMS
Advanced Task Killer
Systray Monitor
ShootMe (never running)
Better Terminal Emulator
Apps Installer
I don't really think any of those should have this type of negative impact on the phone, though I have noticed that my Exchange email does take an extremely long time to sync, but it seems isolated to this device.
My Exchange settings are:
Size Limit - 5kb
Frequency - 15 minutes
Past Mail - 3 days
Include attachments - Never
Reply w/ original text - Yes
Always BCC - no
Those seem to be the only things that are currently ever running.
Are there major conflicts that I should know about with any of those apps?
Even with a fresh install, properly partitioned SD card, current version of both the MoDaCo as well as stock rooted ROM.
Anyone?
for some time now i'm planning to get my first android phone. atrix was my first favourite, but it's pretty expensive. in the meantime, google nexus s caught my eye, and i've been trying to find it, but it's almost impossible to find in my country. so, i decided to save some more money and go for atrix. reading a lot about it on the internet, i have some concerns.
1.) i've been reading a lot of opinions that atrix, despite its impressive hardware, often lags, has a lot of bugs; all in all that user experience is not smooth as it should be with phone this powerful. i'd like to hear your opinions.
2.) how is battery life? would it last a whole day with this scenario: brightnes on max, 1 hour wi-fi, 5-10 minutes talk, 30 minutes gaming/using apps, half an hour reading, watching one movie.
3.) is blur ui really that awful? i see a lot of people complaining about it. is it removed from custom roms?
4.) what actions cause phone brick? i've red that downgrading an os causes bricking, so it means if i install custom ics rom, and don't like it, i'll be stuck with it because i can't roll back to stock gingerbread or i'll brick my phone?
5.) coming from WM, i've seen a lot of compatibility problems with apps/games. how is the situation here? will atrix run every (or almost every) app/game?
6.) how does it cope with demanding games like shadowgun, backstab, nova...?
7.) can rooting cause any problems?
8.) anything else, you'd like to add.
thanks in advance.
at this point in the atrix's life... pretty much all of your questions/concerns have been addressed.
read the noob guide that's pinned in the general atrix forum.
take some time to search and read through the atrix forums.
like I said... the answers are out there.
Look at this thread i made when i was considering buying the atrix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478124
Lots of usefull infos and opinions.
Im very happy with my Atrix. After installing custom roms, the perfomance bumps A LOT. Im using Nottachtrix 4G right now, and my phone is flying.
1.) I believe that it's not as bad as people say, things got better with GB, and really it's just the launcher that's laggy, which can be replaced easily through the market. My favorite is ADW EX, very smooth, very clean
2.) that depends on a few things, typically i believe the stock and blur based roms are the best in terms of battery, then CM7 roms are close behind, and CM9 is not so great. Not sure for those exact uses, but i believe the atrix is above par for android phone
3.) There not really much to blur IMO, just some widgets and app replacements. Without any rooting or unlocking you can get make the launcher look relatively stock. And of course any CM7, CM9, or MIUI based roms aren't going to have blur at all
4.) I'm pretty sure this just referrer to downgrading from Stock 2.3 GB back to an early stock 2.2 froyo rom, which honestly i don't see why anyone would do that at this point, after you get to GB and unlock it you can move to any custom rom and back to stock 2.3GB if you'd like. Bricking usually happens when don't thoroughly follow directions, i haven't bricked my phone yet and this is my first android phone as well
5.) Very few to none really, there are a few games that require, certain chipset, like OMAP, tegra, etc. but this can be fixed by install chainfire 3d. So when you get your phone it'll be compatible with 99% of apps out of the gate there aren't any i've run into yet
6.) Quite well, many apps are specifically tuned toward tegra, and it's capable as it is
7.) I think i read that, if your on stock with root permission, you can't receive OTA updates, but on any custom rom it's not a problem
8.) I believe the Atrix has a relatively strong dev community, just a quick look at the number of posts on this site, the Atrix has one of the top.
Im using atrix for 7 months now...its my first android phone and after a lot surfing in net i bought this one....believe me its the best.
With the usage like u mentioned it surely lasts for one day...it has d powerful battery 1900mAh! Blur UI is really good (in 2.3.4)...those all might be related to 2.2.1 but after the update its good...
It takes really good HD vdos...great pics(xcept night shots)....touch and rest is awesome
Go for it.....!
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The Atrix is a good investment. Look at the phones coming out today. What do they have over this phone? Pretty much nothing. They usually have higher stock CPU speeds but other than that they are similar. This phone is a year old and still had enough specs to run with phones coming out. Until the 4-plus-1 chips start showing up in phones you can't get much better. Unless you want a bigger screen.
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Once I moved to Atrix from my iPhone 3G I could never go back. This thing is a powerhouse. It replaced my computer for me. The battery is pretty good for a dual core device. So long as you know not to keep useless apps running in the background (which there are apps out there that automatically take care of that).
I have experienced several bugs here and there but it's nothing major. Extremely fast browsing experience as well.
I would definitely recommend this to anyone. Especially once you root this thing, it turns into a super powerhouse
This is my first entry into the Android tablet market and I love the Transformer Prime but are things supposed to be so unstable?
My browser crashes, flash locks up, the camera locks up, the task manager stops for no reason etc... Is it the tablet cpu, the OS or the applications? Do people with other brand tablets have the same issues?
Don't mean this to be a rant but after running Linux of the desktop for the past 8 years, I am a bit shocked at how so many things just don't work as intended.
Stability depends what version of firmware you're running. If you're not already on .15 then you may be experiencing major known issues with the tablet and stability.
Otherwise, perhaps some apps are a bit slow, which is being detected as a potential crash. Try sticking performance mode on and selecting 'Wait' when an app hangs next time. I get this with the stock browser a lot, but Chrome Beta (and other browers) are much better. There are a lot of threads here with people rooting for their favourite one.
As for the 'task manager stops' issue, I've never had this so can't comment? What exactly happens?
I wouldn't compare my tablets stability to a mature desktop platform like Linux, but I can't remember being truly frustrated with it except for the reboots on older firmware - and I use mine 5+ hours a day...
The software isnt perfect yet. There are still some issues with ICS and still some with asus adapted it. And i think there is also some room for improvement for the gpu drivers which will come from nvidia.
Everything is new with the prime. New chip, new OS... Things will only get better
Did you do a hard reset after upgrading to ICS from HC? My prime was buggy as all hell until I found someone mentioning to make sure to do a hard reset after upgrading and I tried it and made such a difference it was unbelievable. Every once in a while things crash but it was a night and day difference.
I don't know if you have to do it between patches (I didn't have to after the first hard reset) and it'd amaze me if you did have to, but it seemed to be required for the 3.x -> 4.x upgrade.
I didn't have much on the tablet so I decided on a full reset, redid my settings and added back the few apps I had put on it and everything is 100% better. Thanks for the suggestions! Maybe the HC to ICS upgrade and all the firmware updates over the past few weeks might have mucked up some stuff.
The bad thing about android is its open source and not everything is going to work as great as we hope out of the box
The awesome thing about android is its open source and nearly everything can be tweaked or "made better" by communities like this.
Stock web browser sucks. Theres lots of other web browsers on the market, many for free. give em a try see what works best for you with relation to speed, features, etc.
Stock launcher, in my opinion, is VERY laggy on the home screens. I use ADW now, no lag, works well for me. YMMV, try different launchers see what works best for you.
Do some research into task killers, there is a HUGE debate as to weather or not they help or hinder. The stock asus task killer is very laggy IMO. There are otheres out there but really i just stick to closing apps as im done with them (select the recent apps button, swipe the apps you want to close to the right of the screen to close them)
Overall this tablet has a HUGE potential however there will be some time before we see a huge amount of stuff for it development wise, we JUST got a unlock for the bootloader, Android for tablets is still pretty new, give it a little time. Good luck!
Please?
So, first of all - hey, guys, greetings from a fellow modder
I have an Xperia U that needs to work faster than it does at the moment It was fine during the first two months or so and then it started to slow down and now it needs a reboot every 2 days or so. There are two paths to making it better, I guess:
1. Tweaking the current (stock) ROM (Is there anywhere a complete list of Sony's bloatware that can be safely frozen (I've got TB Pro) without causing any force closes? That would be the greatest thing. (please don't recommend using Greenify instead :silly: )
2. What ROMs would you recommend from your U xperience so far? (Note that I need the illumination bar, the front cam, video recording and bluetooth to work properly)
Current firmware on it is: 6.1.1.B.1.10. It's rooted, but the bootloader is still locked
Cheers and thanks in advance!
If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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If performance is your main concern then going back to Gingerbread is probably your best bet as everything ICS or higher will be heavier unless I'm mistaken.
If GB is too much of a step backwards then have a look in the Xperia U Development forum for one of the tweaked stock ICS roms -- most of them will be lighter-weight than the stock rom you're on at present.
As for removal of unnecessary things, I managed to get rid of all of the Facebook and Twitter stuff from mine without issue, albeit I'm on Jelly Bean. It may also be worth getting rid of some of the Google apps if you don't need them, or if you do need them it might be worth removing them from your system/app directory and installing them as user apps as you can then use Greenify (I know, you said you weren't interested) to hibernate them so they only run when you want them to.
If you have CWM installed, make a backup and start messing around, that way even if it goes wrong you can just boot back in to CWM and restore your original rom, problem solved.
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Oh, boy, now I'm embarrassed that I haven't thought of that plan myself That's the way to do it, then. Just need to setup CWM and I'll get down to experimenting.
Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
Thanks for helping!
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Yeah, Gingerbread is lighter on RAM usage, but I somehow feel that ICS and JB are more powerful when using them... Not talking just about the UI improvements. Can't quite explain But I feel the same way about both my Moto DEFY+ and this Sony U
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I know exactly what you mean -- I would love my phone to be faster but I just can't face going back to GB and now, having moved to JB I'm not sure I could even go back to ICS. It just seems wrong to have to "downgrade" anything to make it better.
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Could you tell me what kind of a Jelly Bean ROM have you got on yours and what kind of bugs do you have to deal with?
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I'm currently using kantry123's v7 version of pipi14's JB rom which has a number of fixes on top of the previous v6. It's nice to use but it definitely has issues;
LED bar doesn't work properly
Front camera doesn't work
Low memory causing launcher redraws and other issues
The front camera I don't need so it doesn't bother me, but the other two are an issue. I'm actively investigating fixes and workarounds for the LED bar to see if I can get it working a bit more to my liking. The low memory though, that's pretty much impossible to solve. I've managed to get around some of the problems by using the Experimental v8 kernel and tweaking the minfree values to be quite low but I'm still playing around to try to get the best result.
Whilst I'm very grateful for being able to run JB on my XU, I can't honestly say that I'm happy with the result. But with that said, I am a lot happier with this setup than I was with the stock ICS update that I got, which just made my phone horrible to use.
Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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Went from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 and was shocked by the phablet UI and the loss of usefull screen. That's when i unlocked my bootloader.
Been using PACMAN nightlies and am currently testing AOKP. Both are working just fine but you lack stamina mode and some sony features like doubletap wakeup and the remote.
The Android 4.3 ROMs are both very usable for everyday usage though. PACMAN comes with more additional stuff but i don't need even half of it wich is why i test AOKP right now. All i want is the tablet UI and the fast 4.3 performance.
I flashed so many ROMS lately that it is probably due to that fact and i need to wipe it clean and start from scratch. :laugh:
My wish would be a modified Sony 4.2.2 ROM with tablet UI. I think the additions Sony implemented are useful without bloating the operating system. Sadly it is completely useless with the phablet UI.
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Hey people... I myself own a 312 model and love the thing to pieces. The first thing i did was get my precious root.
Right now I am reading up on the ROM releases and just dont know if I want to continue modifying or to wait.
I own a galaxy note... so i know all about flashing different roms... but my experience is usually the same with every rom.
Day one... yay... it works flawless. Day two... runs ok... then by the time a week goes by the thing just reboots so often that i get pissed off and flash something else.
So my question is what rom/kernel are people using... how long have you been using it... and how stable has it been?
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I'm using the PAC nightly builds and having no problems :good:
As Jequan mentions, you do loose some of the stock functionality. The only bit I miss is the double tap to wake - that was nice.
The main reason I use PAC is for Pie functionality. For me, permanent on-screen navigation buttons are a waste of screen space - so I use ROMs with Pie (PA on my phone, PAC on my tablet z).
Note : If you are going to unlock your bootloader, backup the TA partition first. (Google: 'Sony DRM TA partition backup' for more info)
At the moment, the Sony stock 4.1.2 is the best ROM. Full functionality, rock stable, no annoying phablet UI.
Only problem is WiFi connection is sometimes a bit unstable. You have to test whether that's a problem for you (for me it's not, with my router it works very good).
Well Im really just waiting to see if they screw up 4.3 cause its supposed to be out really soon. Ir remote... dont care about cause there are other apps on play... just wont be as pretty. What I really wanna hold on to lol... my gallery widget... I cant find one even close to it. but if I want it that bad theres an Advanced Xperia launcher I can install. I have all the files needed to get the ball rolling. Im just still kicking myself for upgrading to 4.2.2. Now I guess either downgrade or Rom either way next step for me is a recovery cause im not flashing nothing without one. PAC was a pretty good Rom ported to the Galaxy Note... But it crashed a lot on me.. But that was back awhile ago. I like my per app dpi and all the customization bells an whistles.
Another thing I was thinking was trying the Xposed framework on the stock Sony firmwares. With the right modules it just might do the trick. But I would still want to run a recovery before trying that aswell.
After benevolently testing new phablet-ui for some weeks, I found it most inappropriate for a 10.1" device on which I work in horizontal screen orientation. So I changed to latest PACMAN ROM nightly and now after a week I can conclude, this step has payed off. Although some things do not work (yet) in this ROM, it runs very smooth, not a single reboot from the start. It has tons of options to set and play with and it brought back the tablet-ui. I did no great feature testing, only daily work with Dolphin, Firefox, Chrome, K9, Jota, FileManager HD, QuickPic, c4Droid, AdobeReader, YouTube etc. Also battery live seems to be all right to me. The only thing is I had to change to Nova launcher, built-in Trebuchet did not handle wallpaper setting properly. On the downside I lost the unique features and apps of stock ROM, but I did not use them anyway ...
What i miss, is the stamina mode, MHL hdmi, USB Mass Storage.
I use CM10.2
USB mass storage also doesn't work??
You can't connect a USB stick to the tablet, even not with Stickmount or a similar helper app??
USB Storage seemed to work for me when i had PACMAN installed.
The complete lack of deepsleep resulting in battery drain when inactive is what made me go back to Sony 4.1.2.
Once they found a way to do something like staminamode i will switch back.
All it would take is to let the tablet enter deepsleep i think.
Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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Pacman (or any other AOSP based ROM) doesn't have deep sleep? Can't believe that!
I'm sure you just had some app which held the tablet awake.
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I reinstalled it clean just for that. Also installed greenify and disabled everything possible. Then installed wakelock detector and nope it never went to deepsleep. Neither did the AOKP ROM for that matter.
I posted it in various threads but so far i got not a single confirmation that others get deepsleep.
OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
qshoo said:
OK, so no deepsleep -> worse battery life?
I'm on PAC for two weeks now, I'm using the device exactly the same way as with Sony stock and activated stamina-mode. And there seems to be not much difference, maybe few percent advantage for Sony stock.
PAC Wi-Fi settings 'Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep' I set to never, but sometimes incoming mails are received anyway.
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When i used AOKP or PACMAN i lost about 1% battery per hour when in standby. With the sony ROM i wont lost a single % over 12 hours. I also had massive battery usage shown for "Android system". I never could narrow down why or what causes it. With timescape the display is using most of the juice as it should be.
That is why i started looking into where the juice goes and it showed that it never goes into deepsleep and no app was active.
Maybe i did something wrong i dunno.
I'm on cm and loving it. I like the simplicity of cm while still having that AOSP feel.
I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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I'm running AOKP nightlies, only because CM 10.2 doesn't seem to have a tablet UI - I'd love to be proven wrong on this though! AOKP is pretty solid, but it has some oddities to it that make me miss CM 10.2 or stock Sony. Mostly I miss Double Tap to Wake.
AOKP is not updated very frequently either, and there are some issues that I think should be fixed that just haven't been after weeks, so I'm somewhat disappointed for now.
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See that's what i dont get... all these roms running off the same buggy cyanogen but know one fixes them... they just copy them over to such and such rom and its no better cause it has the same bugs. I guess its just the fact is whether or not all the fancy dancy features is worth loosing some functionality over a stock rom. I was thinking that modified xperia launcher was great to use on stock rom (but what happened to that... been months since update) along with a couple other customization apps. I don't see to much happening in the XTZ scene I cant even find a functional recovery that works like it should... correct me if Im wrong. Almost all the threads are full of out dated info ("that was soo last week" ) or empty promises, Or is it that there are people working on new great things and keeping it hush hush. Im no dev i would learn if i knew where to start (I know starting with XML would help) but how about an update on your projects once in a while like how things are going.
But to be honest I think im gonna downgrade cause Im sick of lookin at the stupid phablet UI with its grey bars (BAD SONY).
[ROM][10/11][CM10.2][Linaro][O3][MeowKernel][TWRP][Fidelity]CM10.2 - Fidelity Edition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383800
Works beautifully well. Was getting boot loops on pac rom on my wifi only 32g xperiabtablet z.
I also posted in thread how to get viper4android to work and have scipts Supercharger V6 supercharged 100% working along with crossbreader.
Unrelated, is anyone else concerned about the usb port breaking on the device? im reading reports that it eventually falls off. Anyone here have their tablet since May, no issues? im buying a charging cradle to mitigate damage.
Also I really like the GUI in this ROM. I have deleted stock along launcher using no bloat,;I use Nova, way better and I locked nova in portrait mode because looks way nicer. I also flashed a swipe asop black keyboard with swipe and installed exposed module with app settings. I use greenify to grrenify all and keep a greenify shortcut on my desktop. I deleted all email apps including gmail because I use aqua mail.
Running very smooth here. Really love the expanded desktop feature, I use it while I'm gaming.
This tablet is far more superior with boot loader unlocked. Glad I did it!