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My wife uses a Samsung Vibrant and there are just so many issues with it. Currently, it's on the latest stock Froyo release. It keeps losing all of her home screen icons (using stock TWLaucher) and we have to kill TWLauncher or reboot to get them back. Seems to have lag all over the place. Also, wifi signal strength is poor. The wifi calling app constantly turns off saying the wifi signal isn't good enough.
I'd like be interested in trying out a custom ROM. I've tinkered with some of the leaked ROMs, so I'm familiar with ODIN. I've used CWM on my Droid X before, so I should be ok with that as well.
She's not interested in 100 different themes and fancy icons and fancy features, etc. We are just going to want something that's close to stock with some tweaks that might fix some of the issues we are having. Not interested in partially working ROMs where the GPS doesn't work or issues with the camera, etc. Would like wifi calling to work as well. Need something totally stable. I'm not going to want something that's going to need updating weekly either.
Anything out there that meets what I'm looking for?
Please make suggestions.
Hi, same situation here, my gf has stock vibrant with froyo and many issues...
I've cm7 on my N1 so I considered it for the vibrant but at the moment it have troubles with gps and wifi SO I've searched a lot and the much more stable rom (for me of course) is the projectV, it's based on the official froyo with some tweaks and fixes, seems pretty stable until now
here the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105037
hope u enjoy it
Agreed with nekobus
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I actually had my eye on that one.
It'll improve the lag and losing icons and things like that? I don't need a lagfix on top of that as well?
I'm not doing this for the eye candy (extra lock screens, etc.), I just want things to run more smoothly.
This probably won't help the low wifi signal though, since it's using the same modem as stock froyo, right?
Anyone else want to chime in?
It'll definently improve Lag and that icon problem that you have will not happen. And almost every ROM in here has a Lagfix, so Project-V does have one and will come on when you flash it. (A voice of a robotic women after flashing means that Voodoo is flashing) Voodoo is the name of the Lagfix, which makes our systems run on ext4 instead of the slow RFS system stock that your wife had.
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The best thing about Project-V ROM is that its made to be fast and for tweaking, that's why they say they're not competing with Cyanogenmod because it also has both speed and tweaking abilities. So don't worry if you think Project-V is all eye candy, because its both Speed, Stability, and Tweaks!
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If anything, I'll probably give this Project V a shot then. My wife will kill me if I F up her phone or cause her to lose stuff.
I flash this with CWM? I don't exactly recall where to get CWM or how to use it, but I'm sure I'll figure that out.
Installing this over stock will be a total data wipe, right? I should back up programs and program data with Titanium first and then restore after?
This does include the lagfix/file conversion? That just happens automatically when I flash this?
Everything works? No serious bugs? I can also flash that wifi calling file in the first post using cwm and then I'll have wifi calling too?
Let's say Samsung releases a 2.3 that's a solid ROM and I want to go back to stock. With this applied and whatever lagfix, file conversion that's been done, how hard would it be to get back to stock?
Anything else I should know?
I've rooted the stock froyo, backupped ALL with titanium and then wiped all from cwm and installed projectV, no problem at all but titanium is required
About gingerbread.... do you remeber the "froyo story" right? I think I seat and wait for the gingerbread version of projectV (or other roms based on official release)! No more stock images in my home please
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I've rooted the stock froyo, backupped ALL with titanium and then wiped all from cwm and installed projectV, no problem at all but titanium is required
About gingerbread.... do you remeber the "froyo story" right? I think I seat and wait for the gingerbread version of projectV (or other roms based on official release)! No more stock images in my home please
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Yes, wouldn't be surprised at all if there's never an official 2.3 for this. Their 2.2 release was many months behind competing phones originally released around the same time. Still, just want to make sure I understand what I'm getting into here and how hard it would be to get back out. Could I easily get back to the stock froyo that it's on now, if I need to?
I've never did it , but I think u have to odin back to 2.1 stock and then ota (or keys) to 2.2 or whatever
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Does the new market that came out this week work fine on this phone?
Before this market, I also had terrible problems updating apps. It was brutally slow and update all usually failed on most apps. I was very surprised that after installing the new market, I was able to do an update all on 20 apps with no problems at all.
My wife had pretty much given up on updating apps on the stock rom.
not yet tried ! But my gf had no problem at all with old and oldest market under tmob, now she's back in Italy, so I've unlocked the sim and still have no issues!
try a few different 1's and see which you like best
I like the bionix 1.3.1 with bali 1.8.7 uv kernel.
i'm not sure about the wifi calling as I dont use that feature.
Tried the new market right now, no proplems as always!
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As far as which rom you choose is your choice, I am running Toxic Smoke and a lot of people will agree its super quick and responsive but I support almost all roms, Devs here do great work on the vibrant and all should be recognized for it. I may have a solve for your low WiFi signal though..... Have you looked in to the Hardware GPS fix? It involves you opening up your phone and bending a small piece of copper, I did so and put a tiny sliver of credit card plastic under it to keep it from bending back down and now my GPS signal is ridiculous as compared to before. But as I read more there is another copper pin on the opposite side of the phone, that is your WIFI antenna. I then took my phone apart again and did the same thing to that pin and now My WIfI gets great signal. I guess it all depends on how tech savoy you are and how much you want to get into your phone. I know for how much it cost and how much I use my phone I wanted it working 100% so I took the extra time to do all of this and Im quite happy with my Vibrant now. But anyway my specs on my phone are,
ROM: ToxicMusixSmoke
Launcher: Golauncher Pro EX (Which is freaking awesome and free)
Kernal: Bali X (Will increase the responsiveness of your phone ff Overclocked to 1.2 using setCPU, you can download for free on XDA, cost 2.99 or something on the market, the dev offers it for free on here)
+ Hardware GPS Fix and S.gps.zip file for the drivers (You can also find this fine on the Hardware GPS fix post)
I hope this helps as my phone is very stable and I am totally satisfied with my phone as I was not so much at first. I also think with Golauncher you can get stock themes so your phone will look and act just like stock, but run 10000000000000 times better!
I am new to the samsung t959
Any recommendation for ROM? I would like to be as fast as possible, and with a working GPS
I don't mind CM7 as long as it is fastest.
Thanks a million!
]I wasn't looking for fastest.
Just need something to eliminate done of this issues we've had with stock and to be stable with everything functioning correctly.
Project V seems to have done that.
Only issue, so far, is that bloater isn't working and I can't figure a way to get the samsung stock keyboard back. Can anyone help with that?
I like that this rom is so close to stock. If I didn't tell my wife, she wouldn't have even known I changed anything.
While I no longer use it myself, I found Zendroid 2.0.1 with Bali Kernel to be the simplest and easiest to use for a layman, like the average wife or girlfriend
It's extremely lightweight with no bloat to speak of, and battery life is phenomenal (no bloat, no 2g/3g bleeding).
@lexluthor you can use root explorer our similar app to copy the apk to the system/app folder.
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
Underground_XI said:
I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
Sarius24 said:
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
IOIDroid ROM Series
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811155
Arsaw said:
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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agree
once you've used mobile you'll never used desktop odin again. chainfire is legend
remember to download both files though for mobile odin the apk plus the apk specific for our phone.
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IOIDroid said:
I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
IOIDroid ROM Series
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811155
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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This memory leak is mainly caused by the kies Applications that is running in the background on the phone. I have got a part of my flashing process that moves this process to another location therefore preventing it from starting and this has resolved the problems or mostly resolved the problems.
If i was you i would give my rom a try and see what you think
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
Keks1234 said:
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
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My rom shoukdnt wipe your internal memory card and in relation to yoyr apps use titanium backup and the restore again once on the new rom
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IOIDroid said:
also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
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Not true at all, the memory leak is only present in aosp based ROMs, NOT stock Sammy ROMs.
That kiesexe or whatever in system/bin/ is not causing memory leaks, it is just using some ram, not using it all up such as a memory leak is described.
@OP stock sammy ROMs are just fine, even the latest JB leak is great, XXDLI5, I've been using it as a daily driver since it came out and I have no problems.
Use mobile Odin to flash whatever firmware you want, it will even keep your root.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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Description.
Sammy base, stable, Jelly bean, no lagg to date.
I have got ca. 350 apps from Google Play, and yet another ca. 200 system, they all work as if they were stock, no lagg, no great loading times, works brilliant (Except for Facebook, but that's a known problem...)
Give it a shot, you'll like it, if you want stock!
Bought a xperia sola which had android 2.3 and i thought it was very fast and awesome for like 5 months. Then thought that upgrading to ICS would be great, but I found it just to slow down my phone. I tried to factory reset it in 2 different ways but still was slow. Got a scratch in the screen and while repairing i asked them to rever it back to 2.3 again. Thought it was decent for awhile but then became slow continuing with 2.3. I thought it would be because I installed some apps etc but it was like half free space on both the internal and the external drive (the sd-card here is called ext_card) so that shouldnt be it.
I then thought it might be a good idea to upgrade again since not only does it have ICS but there was an upgrade as well on top of that. Upgraded it and thought it ran decent but now again I feel it is pretty slow. It usually takes 2-3 seconds to load the picture of someone calling and stuff like that. At times it is a bit more rapid though but usually it is pretty slow.
I do not run a gigantic list of apps so I have no idea what to do really. Considering to root and perhaps overclock slightly but it feels like that shouldnt be the thing since it worked fine for a long time on 2.3.
Would love any sort of help on this one.
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Bought a xperia sola which had android 2.3 and i thought it was very fast and awesome for like 5 months. Then thought that upgrading to ICS would be great, but I found it just to slow down my phone. I tried to factory reset it in 2 different ways but still was slow. Got a scratch in the screen and while repairing i asked them to rever it back to 2.3 again. Thought it was decent for awhile but then became slow continuing with 2.3. I thought it would be because I installed some apps etc but it was like half free space on both the internal and the external drive (the sd-card here is called ext_card) so that shouldnt be it.
I then thought it might be a good idea to upgrade again since not only does it have ICS but there was an upgrade as well on top of that. Upgraded it and thought it ran decent but now again I feel it is pretty slow. It usually takes 2-3 seconds to load the picture of someone calling and stuff like that. At times it is a bit more rapid though but usually it is pretty slow.
I do not run a gigantic list of apps so I have no idea what to do really. Considering to root and perhaps overclock slightly but it feels like that shouldnt be the thing since it worked fine for a long time on 2.3.
Would love any sort of help on this one.
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Flash custom rom, custom kernel with overclock, and use root uninstaller, to remove any program u dont like
Unlock bootloader, Install FXP CM9 no need to OC, you will never have performance issues. And one more advice: Never flash any stock based **** except for munjeni's work he is a real dev. Others pretty much just throw some useless crap like acid sound mod and cybershot mod on their roms and fill it with crap, call it lame names, claim that their rom is the best, when its just a nastily rethemed stock rom i only found fidwlity zx useful so far, because of the most complete xperia z ui.
That's because we have too low ram available on Sola when we have tons of apps installed.
I feel my phone pretty fast, like a clean installation of ICS from scratch but i did some tweaks to it that requires to be root to achieve this.
I disabled almost all unnecesary apps from Sony, denied permision to start on boot to tons of installed by me apps. Those makes the booting a hell slow and slowdown performance when multitasking because they are wasting ram (who needs youtube, google glass or maps running from the start? they just waste ram!). Also i use greenify and seeder (both apps from here, xda) who helps on quick reponse (seeder) and keeping apps hibernating (greenify) when not in foreground use
Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
olliesshop said:
I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?