Missing Apps and 1st thoughts - AT&T HTC One (M7)

So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.

Signal is because they aren't using the same builds. iPhone has a patented antennae band on the outside, while the One + is using a polycarbonate body that doesn't have any signal issues. Aluminum chassis are widely known to have signal issues because of contact problems and placement. They did their best to resolve it with the addition of the plastic edge and plastic bands on the back of the device to bypass the signal issues that typically plague metal phones.
Furthermore, ATT has really ****ty spectrum for building penetration. Since they lost their entire allocation of 700mhz spectrum to Tmobile in the failed merger, their 1700mhz spectrum does not penetrate buildings as well, which has an entirely adverse affect on the metal body already having signal drawbacks.
I'll see how mine works when I get it in a few hours.

brademcee said:
So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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If you use a launcher, Car mode magically appears.
I like Blinkfeed, but that and a couple other things may force me to use Nova.

CocheseUGA said:
If you use a launcher, Car mode magically appears.
I like Blinkfeed, but that and a couple other things may force me to use Nova.
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What launcher can I use that will still keep the standard sense? I guess I can use a launcher that also brings back a email widget like the HTC sense one since its been removed in sense 5. Any suggestions?

brademcee said:
So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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Damn....I was just asking around in the forums about the Car Mode and if it's on the AT&T version. I was thinking about picking it up since the developer edition is backordered.
I saw a Sprint version last night and it DOES have that car mode installed. It's very nice and a lot of functionality.

brademcee said:
What launcher can I use that will still keep the standard sense? I guess I can use a launcher that also brings back a email widget like the HTC sense one since its been removed in sense 5. Any suggestions?
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Not sure if there is one. I'll be doing more investigating to see how I can fix more of the AT&T 'helpers.'
For example, to delete that annoying 'Device Help' bookmark that you can't delete in Chrome, go into Internet and delete it there.

tehdef said:
Furthermore, ATT has really ****ty spectrum for building penetration. Since they lost their entire allocation of 700mhz spectrum to Tmobile in the failed merger, their 1700mhz spectrum does not penetrate buildings as well, which has an entirely adverse affect on the metal body already having signal drawbacks.
I'll see how mine works when I get it in a few hours.
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What? I was under the impression that a portion in certain areas are being shared... I dont believe that AT&T gave up all their 700MHz spectrum to TMO.

Would really be nice to be able to use the Car app. It's on the list under Settings > Apps > All, but everything is greyed out. It would be nice if we could get this to work without a custom launcher. I'd like to try it out on my way to work.

blackplague1347 said:
Would really be nice to be able to use the Car app. It's on the list under Settings > Apps > All, but everything is greyed out. It would be nice if we could get this to work without a custom launcher. I'd like to try it out on my way to work.
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I use apps that let you add a shortcut to any app (include those hidden by the launcher.. The only thing is you still won't see the app listed in the normal app list in Sense 5, but it will be accessible from the home screens, so for me that's good enough.

welson75 said:
I use apps that let you add a shortcut to any app (include those hidden by the launcher.. The only thing is you still won't see the app listed in the normal app list in Sense 5, but it will be accessible from the home screens, so for me that's good enough.
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Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.

mchinand said:
Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.
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Co-signed.

CocheseUGA said:
Co-signed.
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I just used QuickShortcutMaker. It'll let you search for applications or actions and make shortcuts for them. Search "Car".
it won't put it in the app drawer but it will put an icon on your homescreen.

apps to create shortcuts to Car app
mchinand said:
Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.
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I am using Power Toggles, which is typically used for turning things like wifi/bt/gps on & off, but also lets you use app shortcut as one of the toggle button. Another one I think will work is Desktop VisualizeR which lets you create custom icons. There many others that will have similar function other than the ones I mentioned, but these are the ones I have tried myself.

Are there any other apps you guys have found are missing/hidden on the AT&T version?

I believe since AT&T has that 'DONT TEXT AND DRIVE' thing and they implemented their own AT&T Drive App - This may be why it was not included in our version.

Thanks for the tip. I loaded the shortcutmaker and found the car app and made the shortcut. Worked perfectly.
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Turn my phone into a gaming platform

In another month or two I will be upgrading to a new phone. My6-YO daughter likes playing games on my phone, and I would like to give it to her after I upgrade so she can keep on playing games on it. Is there any way to "fix" the phone so it can't possibly make any phone calls, including 911, but still be able to play games?
I don't know about getting rid of the phone function completely, but perhaps install a 3rd party launcher and hide the phone shortcut from the dock/menu bar area so it won't be as easy to launch and dial.
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use titanium to freeze it
bfranklin1986 said:
use titanium to freeze it
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What he said.
I would freeze any app you wouldn't want her to use and then have a app that password protects TB so she wont go there or any other system app ( that u shouldn't freeze) that you wanna keep her away from.
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I like the Titanium idea a lot. That will be perfect! Thanks a lot.
Presumably the phone won't have a sim in it, so it could only make emergency calls. My view is that if the phone has that capability, then a 6 yo will find a way. Maybe you should either remove the modem.bin file, or flash one from different hardware that simply won't connect to the gsm network.
My 6 and 7 yo's both have ipod touches that they use for gaming. Be prepared to have lots of family arguments about just how much is too much.
You could always flash one of the slightly older CM7's with the 911 bug Between that and no SIM, there shall be no calling done from that phone...
That, or using Titanium/Root Explorer to freeze/delete the dialer and modem.bin, as previously stated.
Froyo will be better for gaming on the vibrant, also airplane mode should be on at all times (you can still use wifi in airplane mode =]) Thats how I've been using mine since I cant afford my bill right now. My battery life has been CRAZY! =D Also I would go with a 1.3ghz overclock for performance to battery ratio (or just stick with plain old 1ghz =P)
I stumbled on this a while back but have not tried it. You could check it out and see if it helps any as well. Even if it does I would still use Titanium to freeze the dialer as well just to be on the safe side.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kidsproof
Credit due to the Android Police roundup where I read about it just a few days ago. Thanks to them this was still fresh in my mind.
JJMT said:
Presumably the phone won't have a sim in it, so it could only make emergency calls. My view is that if the phone has that capability, then a 6 yo will find a way. Maybe you should either remove the modem.bin file, or flash one from different hardware that simply won't connect to the gsm network.
My 6 and 7 yo's both have ipod touches that they use for gaming. Be prepared to have lots of family arguments about just how much is too much.
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My 7 y.o daughter actually shows my wife how to use her HTC MyTouch 4g and she could navigate perfectly throughout my Vibrant.
If I freeze/remove modem.bin, and try to keep the phone in airplane mode, I should still be able to use wifi for updating games and/or downloading new ones. Correct? Even with the sim removed?
I like the idea about the kidsproof app. That will come in handy. Thanks for the tip.
Any more permanent tips for disabling in-game ads? That's actually the biggest problem I have now with the phone when I give it to her.
Yes, my daughter frequently shows my wife how to do things on my phone. Pretty funny, actually.
Maybe someday they will put a micro-switch under the battery which disables the phone (and maybe a second switch for wifi) so that we can hand our phones down when we are done with them. These phones are getting pretty nice and it kinda sucks to just toss it/donate it.
1. Try it and let us know. 2. There is a app called Ad Free in the market but I'm not sure if it been updated to still work but u could try it. 3. B4 you know it your daughter is gonna need a phone, thats how fast they grow.

This phone continues to impress me each day

I just came back from Warped Tour and I'm checking out the videos I recorded...these videos are actually legit. The quality looks damn good and the sound is ****in sick. I hate myself for the way I was holding my phone though because I can tell when I was cupping it wrong but other than that, it sounds damn good (and I'm super picky when it comes to audio).
On top of that...phone was unplugged since 8 AM...right now I'm at home with 8%...I'm shocked. Running all stock...no root. Good job HTC.
Wooo Dallas!
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-Cupper- said:
Wooo Dallas!
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Haha hell yeah!
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Another stock user.
This is finally a phone that I have no problem running stock. I have gotten used to the 3 dot menu bar, which will be fixed in an update soon anyway. Everything is just great. Using the OG Evo stock on Froyo was a terrible experience because the battery life was horrendous. The Evo 3D was laggy and also had poor battery life. But this phone... this phone is smooth and lasts long. Everything about it is just... good.
Until a JB ROM is available, I probably won't root.
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
ms79723 said:
Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this
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Spoken like a true virgin.
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BrianBaker said:
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
Sent from my htc_jewel using xda premium
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About half of those issues are still there after you root ..but I still love her for some reason..Although I am starting to wanna use aosp more and more everyday.and I used to be a sense guy all the way..I just feel that stock has become more elegant than it used to be and sense is starting to remove essential functionality from android ie multitasking that should be no issue on a phone of this caliber..and I wish sense was as smooth as tw..but tw is an ugly stepsister to sense
Racer Of All said:
Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
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nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
shook187 said:
Spoken like a true virgin.
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yessir!
BrianBaker said:
nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
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I'm slowly realizing the same thing about Sense too...it really is trying to mess up the experience for me but there are just too many good things about this phone...
ms79723 said:
This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
Sent from my htc_jewel using xda premium
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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And guess what? Almost none of those things apply to me because I don't use them. Menu button has already been fixed on the One X, so it will be fixed here. And so on.
I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
NewZJ said:
I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
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Hahaha yup! Glad to see you on here man
ms79723 said:
This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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KEYofR said:
I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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I just got back from Key West! What in the world hotel are you at though? Didn't see any clothing optional ones, haha. Only saw the clothing optional bar (Garden of Eden) over on Duval. Nice relaxing place, Key West is. Spent 5 days there. We stayed at The Inn at Key West, which has the largest pool on the island. It was pretty awesome.
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FYI

AT&T added the HTC One to their displays for today's launch of the HTC First. Just fyi you should be able to go to any AT&T store starting today and get hands on time with the One a full week before launch!
Btw, huge Samsung addict, but the One is by far the sexiest phone I've ever held...definitely picking one up next week.
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AT&T added the HTC One to their displays for today's launch of the HTC First. Just fyi you should be able to go to any AT&T store starting today and get hands on time with the One a full week before launch!
Btw, huge Samsung addict, but the One is by far the sexiest phone I've ever held...definitely picking one up next week.
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Thanks for the heads up. Gonna check my local store during lunch.
Will be trying if it's still available. Thank you
I checked a store out. There it is, finally, after all the amazing reviews and everything I have consumed on the web about it and all the excitement ... I played with it for a while. After everything I had read.l which set such high expectations... And its just a phone!!
I'm coming from a Note 2. This phone felt very small to me...!
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I have a Note 2 as well, and a grip case and all that so my Note 2 definitely feels comfortable to hold so I'm not giving it up until the S4 comes out but I'm still gonna pick up a One...maybe because I got to take it out the box so unconsciously I felt possessive about it lol but I really liked the One a lot...
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I checked a store out. There it is, finally, after all the amazing reviews and everything I have consumed on the web about it and all the excitement ... I played with it for a while. After everything I had read.l which set such high expectations... And its just a phone!!
I'm coming from a Note 2. This phone felt very small to me...!
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Any phone after using the Note will look and feel small
I get you. I am sure to own both. Often when I move to a new device it takes a few days to get comfortable... And then no looking back. But I do like the big screen on the note.
Anyway I am sure they have a winner on their hands
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composi said:
AT&T added the HTC One to their displays for today's launch of the HTC First. Just fyi you should be able to go to any AT&T store starting today and get hands on time with the One a full week before launch!
Btw, huge Samsung addict, but the One is by far the sexiest phone I've ever held...definitely picking one up next week.
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Is the label on the back of the phone removable?
Let us know if any black stock shows up before launch.
bosotros said:
Is the label on the back of the phone removable?
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ya it looks like the same sticker that was on the ONE x last year
Went to an AT&T store to assess the situation. Full disclosure: I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked edition with AT&T LTE support, not AT&T's carrier branded edition.
There was only a single One on display and I didn't see any advertising for it. There was a ton of HTC First advertising and 5 of those were on display, but it's already for sale. Maybe AT&T will step things up when the One is actually for sale.
It's a beautiful device, as expected. Pictures don't give you an idea of how thin it actually looks in person.
The display unit did have tiny gaps on the top and bottom edges between the polycarbonate and the front aluminum speaker grills. It wouldn't bother me, but people have been calling this an issue and apparently it's not fixed on the AT&T version.
There are quite a few AT&T apps pre-installed. They're organized into a single folder in the app drawer by default, which is nice. None of the ones I checked could be uninstalled, but they could be disabled.
There is an ugly NFC icon in the status bar placed there by AT&T. Apparently AT&T is throwing that on all of their Android phones with NFC these days.
AT&T cloud contact sync is built into the phone and contacts apps. It annoyed me multiple times while I was just tyring to see the apps.
An ugly notification shows up when an AT&T hotspot is nearby. You can probably disable that, but I didn't check.
AT&T's hideous browser bar is built into the default browser and turned on by default. It can be disabled, thankfully.
The messaging app includes support for group texting, though it's disabled by default, and it also has different themes you can choose from. Group messaging is nice to see considering it wasn't added to stock Android until 4.2 and the One doesn't have 4.2 yet.
Chrome v18 is included. This makes me happy because I like the way it performs better than the latest versions of Chrome, though I'll probably use the stock HTC browser anyways.
Can't wait to get mine. Come to papa!!! :laugh:
gtg465x said:
Went to an AT&T store to assess the situation. Full disclosure: I pre-ordered the 32GB unlocked edition with AT&T LTE support, not AT&T's carrier branded edition.
There was only a single One on display and I didn't see any advertising for it. There was a ton of HTC First advertising and 5 of those were on display, but it's already for sale. Maybe AT&T will step things up when the One is actually for sale.
It's a beautiful device, as expected. Pictures don't give you an idea of how thin it actually looks in person.
The display unit did have tiny gaps on the top and bottom edges between the polycarbonate and the front aluminum speaker grills. It wouldn't bother me, but people have been calling this an issue and apparently it's not fixed on the AT&T version.
There are quite a few AT&T apps pre-installed. They're organized into a single folder in the app drawer by default, which is nice. None of the ones I checked could be uninstalled, but they could be disabled.
There is an ugly NFC icon in the status bar placed there by AT&T. Apparently AT&T is throwing that on all of their Android phones with NFC these days.
AT&T cloud contact sync is built into the phone and contacts apps. It annoyed me multiple times while I was just tyring to see the apps.
An ugly notification shows up when an AT&T hotspot is nearby. You can probably disable that, but I didn't check.
AT&T's hideous browser bar is built into the default browser and turned on by default. It can be disabled, thankfully.
The messaging app includes support for group texting, though it's disabled by default, and it also has different themes you can choose from. Group messaging is nice to see considering it wasn't added to stock Android until 4.2 and the One doesn't have 4.2 yet.
Chrome v18 is included. This makes me happy because I like the way it performs better than the latest versions of Chrome, though I'll probably use the stock HTC browser anyways.
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Great stuff, thanks! I checked for Group Messaging, too, and was thrilled to see it included. This means I won't have to put GO SMS on the phone, and one less "GO" app is always a good thing in my book...
At my local store
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Almost got the guy to sell me the phone was about to pay and the manager see it lol
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CheesyNutz said:
Almost got the guy to sell me the phone was about to pay and the manager see it lol
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SO CLOSE!
Silellak said:
SO CLOSE!
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Indeed but damn that phone sexy
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I tried to buy one too. They said they don't have them in yet.
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Yeah stock won't be in until sometime next week
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i went to an at&t store last week to preorder one since the media link was temporarily sold out online and they wouldnt let me. they said i had to do it online or wait until today to preorder it in store. i went home and tried to preorder again online and the media link was in stock.

[Q] One Max texts

Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
max444 said:
Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
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What phone does she have? I've noticed that sometimes it depends on who is texting. As per the more features on the rezound you are gravely mistaken... Having owned both phones that's like saying dial-up is better than Fios... If the texting issue is that big of a deal probably best to leave android because you can find a more catered experience elsewhere...
cstrife999 said:
What phone does she have? I've noticed that sometimes it depends on who is texting. As per the more features on the rezound you are gravely mistaken... Having owned both phones that's like saying dial-up is better than Fios... If the texting issue is that big of a deal probably best to leave android because you can find a more catered experience elsewhere...
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she has the samsung note 3.
Of course the one max is newer and it has a newer operating system and etc however some good features are missing.
on rezound I have the home screen in the middle and then 3 other screens on each side I can swipe to, for a total of 7 home screens.
On one max without the feed screen you have a total of 5 screens, home in the middle and 2 on each side.
on rezound I can go around the home screens in a circle, on the one max once you go one way you have to back track to get to the opposite side.
on the rezound I have a "people widget" that shows the person and then right next to it the latest text/mail communications of that person, this was a great widget that allowed me to look at each of my favorites and allow me to see their communication by just a glance, One max does not have that anymore it just has the default people widget that just shows the person, you can't see test or anything right there.
I can go with a few more useful/time saving features that are not there, like the lock screen and its apps for example and there is lots more.
So when I say it was better I mean it in that sense, maybe you can do the things I mentioned and I just can't figure it out but I'm 99% sure you can't.
Yes the One max has some good abilities over the rezound like the size for example, and other things, but some of the things I mentioned make no sense to me why they are gone making One max not as easy to use as rezound when it came to some features.
Ok so you are saying that it depends on what kind of a phone I'm getting text from? I'm not good in that area and like to say it does not matter, but if you know for a fact it does, then I guess it does. Thank you for your response and time.
max444 said:
Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
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Are you using a different keyboard than stock on either phone?
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max444 said:
she has the samsung note 3.
Of course the one max is newer and it has a newer operating system and etc however some good features are missing.
on rezound I have the home screen in the middle and then 3 other screens on each side I can swipe to, for a total of 7 home screens.
On one max without the feed screen you have a total of 5 screens, home in the middle and 2 on each side.
on rezound I can go around the home screens in a circle, on the one max once you go one way you have to back track to get to the opposite side.
on the rezound I have a "people widget" that shows the person and then right next to it the latest text/mail communications of that person, this was a great widget that allowed me to look at each of my favorites and allow me to see their communication by just a glance, One max does not have that anymore it just has the default people widget that just shows the person, you can't see test or anything right there.
I can go with a few more useful/time saving features that are not there, like the lock screen and its apps for example and there is lots more.
So when I say it was better I mean it in that sense, maybe you can do the things I mentioned and I just can't figure it out but I'm 99% sure you can't.
Yes the One max has some good abilities over the rezound like the size for example, and other things, but some of the things I mentioned make no sense to me why they are gone making One max not as easy to use as rezound when it came to some features.
Ok so you are saying that it depends on what kind of a phone I'm getting text from? I'm not good in that area and like to say it does not matter, but if you know for a fact it does, then I guess it does. Thank you for your response and time.
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After re-reading my post I think I came across as arrogant. I apologize for that. With most of what you said is true though most didn't want them but they work for you and that works for you. In this specific case you might be better to go back to the rezound. They eliminated most of those features for a reason to them and I don't think they'd bring them back. Certain roms do include the unlimited scrolling for homescreens though that's about it. I'm not a big eye candy person myself. Considering how modern her phone is that sounds really weird. Do you use normal texts or hangouts? You both want to try hangouts and see if that works for you.
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Thanks dottat,
we are both using default keyboard but I was able to figure it out, I will state it below.
cstrife999 said:
After re-reading my post I think I came across as arrogant. I apologize for that. With most of what you said is true though most didn't want them but they work for you and that works for you. In this specific case you might be better to go back to the rezound. They eliminated most of those features for a reason to them and I don't think they'd bring them back. Certain roms do include the unlimited scrolling for homescreens though that's about it. I'm not a big eye candy person myself. Considering how modern her phone is that sounds really weird. Do you use normal texts or hangouts? You both want to try hangouts and see if that works for you.
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Thanks cstrife999,
we use normal texts and I was able to figure it out.
here is what it was:
on her note 3 she has 2 different sections for smilies, there is the default one we are all used to ( the one under the menu options under "insert smilies"), and then there is another section for smilies that has all the ones we have on the max, this other one you get to by holding the voice key down till you get a menu for 5 objects one being the second set of smilies.
Now the default ones are just the basic ones and only droid smilies, these are the ones that appear as text no matter what, however once we go to the second set of smilies as mentioned above all the smilies showed up on the texts as smilies.
Problems solved.
I like to thank you all for your time/help and responses.:highfive:

Keeping the S7 Without Unlocked Bootloader

I was very excited to see a sale on the S7 at Best Buy and was finally ready to relieve my nearly 4 years old Note II of duty until I came here to look into what mod options were available... only to find that there aren't any yet.
So, for those of you who have bought the S7 and have NOT returned it, what reasons have you decided to stick it out? Were you particularly deep in modding your phone before? Are you just happy with the few tools that have come out so far? Are you holding out hope for an unlocked bootloader eventually?
I haven't completely decided against it, but I'm seriously second guessing staying a Samsung customer after this fiasco. My Note II has been solid and a best, no replacements since I bought it on release, but I am way too into my modifications that I'm not sure I'd enjoy upgrading yet or seeking a third option.
Well I really enjoyed running custom ROMs in the past especially Aosp ones, but the fact that my s5 has cracked screen I not sure I'd want to go back. Since I got the free VR which would be worthless without either S6 or S7, I'm kind of stuck. I mean S6 is no go for me no SD card also IP rating. That aside it isn't to bad I was able to get themed pretty close to Aosp without root and I still have faith that we'll unlock this beast eventually. Samsung can't keep us down.
I came from a G3, before that a Note 2. I came back to samsung because I didn't like anything about the G5 and I was tired of some of the problems in LG's software on the G3. I had both devices rooted running debloated stock roms. The main reason I root is to get rid of apps I cannot uninstall and to block ads while sticking with a stock based rom to be able to use the features the manufacturer built into the software. I am disappointed that we may never get root or an unlocked bootloader as I would like to be able to uninstall some apps like facebook, FB messenger, the 4 amazon apps and the 3 sprint apps I cannot get rid of as well as run an ad blocker.
While I still cannot get rid of ads, There are ways to disable the apps using an app called "Package Disabler Pro" or you can use Gatesjuniors' Debloater which is what I'm using because its one less app on my phone, you can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 . I have Nova launcher installed and have no lag, call quality is great, mobile signal strength and speed is better than I've ever had with Sprint. My wifi reception is equally as impressive as I still have very usable wifi 30+ yards away from my router through the walls in my house. My G3 had trouble connecting 10 yards away (another reason I came back to samsung).
All that being said, this is the first phone I haven't rooted within the first week of getting it and honestly, other than an annoying ad occasionally (as most of my apps and games are paid for so I don't get many ads anyway) I really see no need to root this phone at this time. I've had the S7 for 3 weeks now and I love it. Wireless charging is awesome as I haven't plugged it in to charge since the first week and on that note the fast charging is even more awesome as it will charge 50% in 30 minutes. The peace of mind in the fact that if it gets wet its no big deal. The screen and performance is phenomenal. Its so much easier to handle than the Note 2 was, I don't miss the heft of that phone at all. If you can get the Gear VR I highly recommend it, I was not a believer and thought I would just sell it but decided to try it to see if it was any good and it made a believer out of me, the Gear VR is awesome and a lot of fun.
Get the S7, it is a huge upgrade to the Note 2 and well worth it in my opinion.
I've kept it because the only reason I rooted in the first place was the free hotspot, and it's not essential that I have it, so I can go without. I'm also keeping it because it's a huge improvement in specs over the S5 I had before.
Free stuff
I came from a SGS4. Heavily modded, custom rom etc... As someone mentioned earlier, the main reason I rooted was for free hotspot activation (and some other free -cough- stuff). For now, I have the hotspot activated for free without root. Happy as a clam. The phone is fantastic. Even if/when Sprint forces an update and locks down my hotspot mod, I love the phone and would not switch to something else. I can still put free -cough- stuff on my phone without root. I'm sure someone will eventually find a way to root the device.
makane716 said:
I came from a SGS4. Heavily modded, custom rom etc... As someone mentioned earlier, the main reason I rooted was for free hotspot activation (and some other free -cough- stuff). For now, I have the hotspot activated for free without root. Happy as a clam. The phone is fantastic. Even if/when Sprint forces an update and locks down my hotspot mod, I love the phone and would not switch to something else. I can still put free -cough- stuff on my phone without root. I'm sure someone will eventually find a way to root the device.
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Well Sprint just pushed an update that gets rid of the ability to mod the phone to use hotpot. The update became available yesterday and it locks down the APN settings to where they are greyed out.
I have had no such update. I just did the mod 1 hour ago. Working fine.
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Macguyver said:
I came from a G3, before that a Note 2. I came back to samsung because I didn't like anything about the G5 and I was tired of some of the problems in LG's software on the G3. I had both devices rooted running debloated stock roms. The main reason I root is to get rid of apps I cannot uninstall and to block ads while sticking with a stock based rom to be able to use the features the manufacturer built into the software. I am disappointed that we may never get root or an unlocked bootloader as I would like to be able to uninstall some apps like facebook, FB messenger, the 4 amazon apps and the 3 sprint apps I cannot get rid of as well as run an ad blocker.
While I still cannot get rid of ads, There are ways to disable the apps using an app called "Package Disabler Pro" or you can use Gatesjuniors' Debloater which is what I'm using because its one less app on my phone, you can find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 . I have Nova launcher installed and have no lag, call quality is great, mobile signal strength and speed is better than I've ever had with Sprint. My wifi reception is equally as impressive as I still have very usable wifi 30+ yards away from my router through the walls in my house. My G3 had trouble connecting 10 yards away (another reason I came back to samsung).
All that being said, this is the first phone I haven't rooted within the first week of getting it and honestly, other than an annoying ad occasionally (as most of my apps and games are paid for so I don't get many ads anyway) I really see no need to root this phone at this time. I've had the S7 for 3 weeks now and I love it. Wireless charging is awesome as I haven't plugged it in to charge since the first week and on that note the fast charging is even more awesome as it will charge 50% in 30 minutes. The peace of mind in the fact that if it gets wet its no big deal. The screen and performance is phenomenal. Its so much easier to handle than the Note 2 was, I don't miss the heft of that phone at all. If you can get the Gear VR I highly recommend it, I was not a believer and thought I would just sell it but decided to try it to see if it was any good and it made a believer out of me, the Gear VR is awesome and a lot of fun.
Get the S7, it is a huge upgrade to the Note 2 and well worth it in my opinion.
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You can still block ads without root. adguard.com . Uses a local vpn to filter out the ads. It does consume a small amount of data to do so. Might not be the best choice on low data plans.
I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
VassagoX said:
I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
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Apart of a pre-order promo which I would guess is over now.
VassagoX said:
I know with the Sprint unlimited anything plan, they made mobile hotspot up to 3GB included. I don't actually use it much anyway, so that may be enough for me. I'm still so very on the fence.
People keep talking about free VR, how did you get it for free??
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I'm on the Sprint unlimited everything plan. I could not activate the hotspot without the mod. Of course, I activated my phone via website. But then, that's how I got my msl code to mod the apn. Oh well.
El.Dante565 said:
Apart of a pre-order promo which I would guess is over now.
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Ahhh, gotcha. Then I guess I'm out of luck on that one. Best Buy has a pretty good promo for $99 right now with a free wireless charger, so I guess that eats the cost of the VR if you wanted to buy it. I'm thinking about it.
makane716 said:
I'm on the Sprint unlimited everything plan. I could not activate the hotspot without the mod. Of course, I activated my phone via website. But then, that's how I got my msl code to mod the apn. Oh well.
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That's strange. Are you on the $75 plan? It's supposed to be included.
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Ahhh, gotcha. Then I guess I'm out of luck on that one. Best Buy has a pretty good promo for $99 right now with a free wireless charger, so I guess that eats the cost of the VR if you wanted to buy it. I'm thinking about it.
That's strange. Are you on the $75 plan? It's supposed to be included.
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Well I was. Bestbuy did not want to honor the $99.99 sale price with 2 year activation (my current contract had expired at the beginning of the month) as they said Sprint wouldn't let them. So I chewed Sprint up and down until they pushed the upgrade through at $99.99. So I did tge activation swap through the website. Now I see I'm on a DIFFERENT unlimited plan. Some kinda "framily" plan for $30. Oh well. Still unlimited
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makane716 said:
I have had no such update. I just did the mod 1 hour ago. Working fine.
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You can still block ads without root. adguard.com . Uses a local vpn to filter out the ads. It does consume a small amount of data to do so. Might not be the best choice on low data plans.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I have unlimited data so it's not a worry.
I use about 100gb a month on data with hotspot. S7 not my option anymore. LG G5 is next.
Yeah, I think I'm going to hold off as well at this point. I want to see if they will bend under pressure.
eloko said:
I use about 100gb a month on data with hotspot. S7 not my option anymore. LG G5 is next.
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T-Mobile has announced the LG G5 will have a locked bootloader. Will have to see if other providers will follow suit.
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T-Mobile has announced the LG G5 will have a locked bootloader. Will have to see if other providers will follow suit.
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What?! Oh man... Tmo and sprint are the unlocked ones.. But if tmo is locked, more likely sprint will...
Seriously?! What are these companies thinking? Do they not realize how much of their sales is due to the modifiable side of their phones?
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Seriously?! What are these companies thinking? Do they not realize how much of their sales is due to the modifiable side of their phones?
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That is exactly why I moved from iOS to android. The ability to take 3rd party apps, straight out of the box and modify bloatware, the ui, etc...
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That is exactly why I moved from iOS to android. The ability to take 3rd party apps, straight out of the box and modify bloatware, the ui, etc...
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The first part of this post will be my response to the OP post. The second part will address the user I quoted.
I actually bought this phone because I am losing my desire to mod/flash/root etc. While it's been fun the past 8 years or so, I've realized it has consumed TONS of my time. I can honestly say it got to the point where when I got home, the first thing I would do is get on my laptop or the app and open XDA. Next thing I know I'm flashing a new ROM only to find out in a few days or so that it lacks "this" feature or "that" feature isn't working properly and I'm back on xda looking for something different. It gets old having to reflash the phone because I "couldn't hear outgoing calls" or incoming mms wasn't working. I know seasoned xda members know as well as I that once you tweak one thing it inherently messes up another. Anyhow, this phone is a beast without root. No need for overclock, or even flashing a CM/AOSP rom. If I wanted that I would've picked up a Nexus. As a previous usuer mentioned, adblocking is possible without root as well as hotspot. I'm happy with my S7 and keeping it. Now regarding the user's quote, Samsung is the driver of Android sales worldwide. They want to keep that spot and unfortunately the vast majority of their users don't care about root. Samsung is taking on Apple knuckle to knuckle and in order to win over customers from Apple, they will have to provide the same level of security and functionality as Apple which means no root. Winning over Apple customers will yield them way more profit in the short and long run vs. providing unlock for their "power" users. I'm not cheering on Samsung to continue making their devices "NSA" friendly, but in a world of ever increasing security threats particularly of the cyber nature, rooting will become increasingly more difficult as OEMs try to gain their customers' confidence in the security of their mobile devices.

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