According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
gophermuncher said:
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
gophermuncher said:
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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nuprotocol said:
I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
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HSPA+, yes. MMS, yes. LTE? Maybe.
manaurys said:
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you're in a refarmed 1900mhz frequency area. You can find out if you are here: http://airportal.de/
I've been investigating this. FCC documentation suggests that the HTC One for T-Mobile is certified for LTE Band 17 (AT&T).
I've unlocked the handset, but I'm only able to access AT&T's HSPA+ network.
Out of the box, the HTC One for T-Mobile doesn't support AT&T LTE.
If there is latent support, I reckon that you'd need to flash AT&T's radio to the device.
EDIT: I stand corrected. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41237507&postcount=17
the tmobile ONE supports tmobile/att hspa and lte for both carriers. The att ONE supports lte for both but only att hspa and only tmobils 1900 hspa.
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This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
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This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
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My friend has the T-mobile One and I have the AT&T One. He tried putting his T-mobile SIM in my phone, but it would not work (my AT&T One has to be unlocked, which I believe can be done if you buy an unlock code). I couldn't say if my SIM would work since my SIM is not actually AT&T's, it is a Straight Talk SIM that is compatible with AT&T's network. I imagine you could also unlock the T-mobile variant to work with AT&T's networks, but I'm not sure if it'd be able to work on the 4G network.
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I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
However, with our experience in the industry we have seen that almost every device launched in recent years within Europe has been ‘optimised’, with the American 850/1900 range locked down, leaving only 900/2100 for the rest of the world. As we are based in the UK it is for this reason we have taken the tentative step of advertising only these frequencies.
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yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Speaking about release dates we do not have a specific one for the GT-i9100 in the USA but we can confirm the FFC has authorized the use of this particular smart phone on the 850MHz and 1900MHz GSM frequencies which means the first carrier to offer the Samsung Galaxy S II might be AT&T. These two frequencies account for the AT&T 3G network but they also match some Canada operator’s frequencies so there is a big chance the Galaxy S II will land there too in the near future.
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Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
apwhitelaw said:
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
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So, only using ATT GSM network?
ATT UMTS network can't use?
Pulverizer said:
I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
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That first link (that I provided earlier tonight I think) - read it to the end please, Clove has all the info on that page, just finish reading it. sorry for the tone , but I think you did not pay enough attention - there are comments to that blog post that say clove confirmed with the manufacturer and local distributor that all 4 bands are present.
I'm confused here
I have SGSII ordered from Clove. I plan to use it with ATT sim card. Have I made a mistake? Will I be able to use it? Do I need to cancel?
I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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Although Clove originally said they doubted it would support 850/1900 3G+, they did later confirm their stock would be quad-band 3G. So no need to worry about support for NAM 3G.
Once someone get's the GS2 in USA on ATT, can you confirm that it indeed works on Edge AND 3G?
kurtkbee said:
I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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That's because the i9000 is only tri-band UMTS and only supports AT&T's 1900 frequency. When it gets to an area where the 1900 H/3G signal is weak, it can't switch over to the 850 UMTS simply because its hardware doesn't support it. So, then the phone call drops. You'll notice if you switch the i9000 to 2G/Edge, you'll never get a dropped call... because it's quad band GSM.
Also, ever notice you never get dropped calls when stationary and on H/3G? That's because with a solid 1900 UMTS signal, the i9000 will never search for the unsupported 850 band.
(And yes, I have confirmed all of this as I also own an i9000.)
i9100 supports quad-band UMTS with 850/1900 H/3G, so you will not have the frequent dropped calls anymore.
Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
pepemosca said:
Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
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Thanks for your information.
I have the HTC Radar 4G on T-Mobile. Once I unlock it and use it on At&T, it will definitely do calls, but will it pick up 3G or 4G on the AT&T network? I asked HTC and they were unsure. Thanks!
Do a search in this forum to find your answer.
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AT&T uses 850 MHz / 1900 MHz for GSM/GPRS/EDGE and the same two frequencies (850 / 1900) for UMTS/HSPA (their 3G/4G service).
T-Mobile uses the same frequencies (850 / 1900) for GSM/GPRS/EDGE, but uses 2100 MHz and 1700 MHz for UMTS/HSPA/AWS (their 3G / 4G network).
If you want to know what phones will work where, compare the frequencies they receive with those of the carrier you want to use.
In the case of the Radar, it uses the following frequencies
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850 MHz; 900 MHz; 1800 MHz; 1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 1700 MHz; 2100 MHz
So, for GSM phone calls and data you have a match with AT&T (and, of course with T-Mobile). 3G / 4G is a different story. The Radar has the T-Mobile 3G/4g bands, but not the bands for high-speed data on AT&T.
So, if you are happy just making phone calls and using EDGE data, then you can use the phone on AT&T. If you want 3G /4G as well you have to stick with T-Mobile.
bleh bleh +10
I finally was able to get the h2O SIM card (AT&T service) and surprisingly it picks up 3G! I definitely notice the difference from when it goes from 2G up to the 3G speeds
http://www.htc.com/us/products/radar4g-tmobile?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs
Apparently. It says it does 2100/1900/1700/850
*T-Mobile only uses 1700/1900 bands. source
Interesting! I took my specs from the T-Mobile page which omits the UMTS 850/1900 band. Thanks for the correction.
The box clearly states GSM 850/900/1900/2100 AND HSPA/UMTS: 1700/1900/2100
AWS 1700 = T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity
UMTS 1900 = AT&T (although they use 850 extensively too), Rogers, Telus, etc
UMTS 2100 = Asia/Europe
My Radar picks up AT&T 3G. Not sure if UMTS 1900 band will be omnipresent on AT&T as a lot have been extended with HSPA 850 as well.
So, whereever you find UMTS 1900, you'll definitely catch AT&T 3G
Hope this helps.
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
z33dev33l said:
So, will this work with the medianet plan?
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YES!! Gets 6M downloads, 1.5M uploads.
I was looking at the Google Play Edition S4 on the Play Store: [Can't link outside post yet but go to the Google Play Store]
According to the Specs it uses the same frequency ranges that Verizon uses:
Network
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)
Would this thing work on Verizon with their sim card? Sorry in advance for sounding like a noob.
It lacks a cdma radio.
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najaboy said:
It lacks a cdma radio.
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It will (presumably) work on Verizon when they do Voice over LTE... but until then, yes, it lacks a CDMA radio which means it probably won't be of use for VZW.
I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
Eodmule said:
I knew it wouldn't work on non-CDMA networks but what about the LTE side of the house? Verizon uses 700 Mhz and 1700/2100 Mhz LTE bands for 4G. I could live without 3G for a phone that could connect to any carriers LTE freqs.
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Might be fine for 4G data over LTE, but will probably be a paperweight as far as calls are concerned unless you want to go the VOIP route... not to mention you'd be SOL anywhere there's no 4G coverage. Basically there would be no fallback, you'd either have 4G data, or nothing.
I think AT&T and VZ use different ends of the 700mhz spectrum, so even if the phone somehow got authenticated onto the VZ network, the radio/antennae for AT&T's 700mhz may not work on VZ's.
So here is my situation. Getting a HTC One under Sprint. It uses a SIM card. I've been told it will work on T-Mobile. My question is can I just flash radios or will it be always stuck with just Edge?
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Im pretty sure this will not work.
The Sprint version of the HTC One is CDMA / LTE NOT GSM/LTE
Thanks. That was my initial thought process too. Probably just sell it. Have a Nexus 5 on the way too.
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IAmSixNine said:
Im pretty sure this will not work.
The Sprint version of the HTC One is CDMA / LTE NOT GSM/LTE
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It's actually CDMA/GSM and LTE. Sprint locks down the GSM portion against using a domestic SIM from AT&T and TMobile by default. They'll unlock it for international SIMs/use if you meet certain criteria etc.
It has the necessary radios to work on Tmobile and or AT&T, you just have to have it unlocked a certain way. Search here on XDA, it's been done though it's not the easiest process.
The Sprint One has a SIM slot?
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blackangst said:
The Sprint One has a SIM slot?
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At the top, left side of the HTC One even under Sprint there is a Sim Slot.
jziggy101 said:
At the top, left side of the HTC One even under Sprint there is a Sim Slot.
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Every LTE device will have a sim slot.
LTE is based on GSM technology. Now with that said there is a GSM variant and a CDMA variant. The CDMA variant does not have the basic GSM chipset for GPRS/ EDGE technology. So putting your sim card in there MIGHT only get you LTE in a re farmed TMO area with 1900mhz. Bottom line is if you want the phone to work like it should you need to buy a T-Mobile one.. It has the 1700mhz aws band you need for all of T-Mobiles network.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#/
This unit has
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - CDMA:
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 1900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
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Hi ,
I want to do similar stuff.
I am currently using SPRINT Phone on my T-mobile network . It works fine (Just some network auto disconnect issues sometimes).
BUT , I want Tmobile Stock ROM on my SPRINT Phone... (Only Reason for that: I want WIFI-CALLING - Which only Tmobile supports)
Have anyone flashed SPRINT with TMOBILE ROM (Stock)
manasbapna said:
Hi ,
I want to do similar stuff.
I am currently using SPRINT Phone on my T-mobile network . It works fine (Just some network auto disconnect issues sometimes).
BUT , I want Tmobile Stock ROM on my SPRINT Phone... (Only Reason for that: I want WIFI-CALLING - Which only Tmobile supports)
Have anyone flashed SPRINT with TMOBILE ROM (Stock)
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Can you tell me how you were able to get sprint phone on t-mobile network. I have HTC one, unlocked, but it won't connect to tmobile towers.
My Radio is: 1.00.20.315
Is there any way right now to get the Sprint One Max to work on AT&T or Verizon?
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
I stuck an AT&T Straight Talk sim in my Sprint One max and it didn't work.
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Jiggity Janx said:
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
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That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Mr.Mischief said:
I stuck an AT&T Straight Talk sim in my Sprint One max and it didn't work.
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Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
HTC website says this about the phone:
Network1
2G/ 2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
EMEA: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA
800/1900 MHz for Sprint and Verizon
4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 900/1800/2100/2600 Mhz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Verizon: 700 MHz
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
HopelesRomantc91 said:
That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
HTC website says this about the phone:
Network1
2G/ 2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
EMEA: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA
800/1900 MHz for Sprint and Verizon
4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 900/1800/2100/2600 Mhz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Verizon: 700 MHz
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
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I knew that before I tried it. Why would you even create a thread asking the question if you already knew the answer?
Mr.Mischief said:
I knew that before I tried it. Why would you even create a thread asking the question if you already knew the answer?
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There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
Jiggity Janx said:
Verizon wouldnt allow a non verizon phone on their network and I dont believe sprint unlocks their phones for use on gsm by default. Even if you got it unlocked I dont believe the gsm radio parts would be included to run on att.
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HopelesRomantc91 said:
That used to be true, but it all operates from the SIM now, so you should be able to just plug and play the SIM.
Of course, your phone is locked to Sprint.
Looks to me like there's no reason the Sprint One won't work on AT&T or Verizon just not as good as the Verizon one.
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HopelesRomantc91 said:
There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
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I know all about using sims now and the 'new' fad called unlocking...
Verizon and sprint are still cdma networks. They only allow phones they authorize on their network. You can try to unlock the phone to work on att but you will not get it authorized to work on verizon (even though it technically could).
I want to caveat the above with the fact that if you have a verizon person that is willing to break the rules and put the sprint phone on verizon after you unlock it then yes, you can use it on verizon. But you have to find a verizon person willing to get fired for adding a phone...
HopelesRomantc91 said:
There's this new fad people are doing called "unlocking." Haha, but seriously, that's what I'm really asking is if it can be unlocked.
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Of course. I've been unlocking devices since you were in diapers.
Sprint phones can rarely be unlocked. Anytime one is unlocked by a dev hack, there's a huge thread about it.
Basically, if there was a hack that could unlock the Sprint One max, you wouldn't have to open a thread to find it.
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised at how big a deal it is that the HTC One (non Max) on Sprint can be SIM unlocked.
EDIT: I was including even if it can be unlocked via one of those pay for unlock code sites. I'd probably pay a decent price to get an HTC One Max from Sprint SIM unlocked.
Found and Made a way to Unlock for the Sprint HTC one Max
I have found a way to SIM Unlock the HTC One Max on Sprint. It is almost the Same Exact way on how to unlock it on the HTC One but with a added step. I made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2608910