PA Windowed Multitasking - Nexus 10 General

This might just be the feature that pulls me away from AOKP for good. Windowed Multitasking is the one feature that I feel is crippling Android(and iOS for that matter) from rising as a serious competitor to traditional OSes(Windows, OS X, Ubuntu etc.). Anyone else excited for this?
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/28/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
Official source from PA team: https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/P6a1hP3vKxP

+1... looking forward to this for my galaxy and my 10... not really sure how necessary it is for me, or android in general. but maybe I'll realize I can't live without it.
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Already running PA for tablet mode but this just gives me even more reason to stick with them. I was running it on my S3 too but didn't really like it over TW.

Yup, very much looking forward to this. If they pull it off, I'll be a PA man from here on out! From watching the video, their implementation looks much nicer than most too.
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...

stiggy2012 said:
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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And then 1-2 months of bugfixing in ROMs so it actually works ok

I asked about multitasking on PA thread for N10, and the answer wasn't far from what I think it might be the truth, seeing how is it going with the phones and tablets running PA ROM.
"Still far from done, and it's really questionable how exactly it will function on a tablet, seeing how the PA team is focused on phone development mostly. "

Interesting - I hope we get something like this. Another kick-ass developer timduru ported Cornerstone to EOS for the Asus Transformer TF101. It worked quite well. It certainly didn't make the TF101 any faster, but it was definitely something that I think improved the user experience on the tablet. I was able to watch video in one window and surf the net in another. :laugh:

For me, this was the most anticipated feature since I got my first Android tablet (which would be this one... :silly: ). Right now, I'm using the floating browser as a workaround, since the functionality of some apps can also be found on the web. - Except, of course, in offline situations.
I'm eagerly awaiting this, and I know that team PA can pull it off!

Pa just released a new video on Google +... it makes way more sense to me now... this will be rad with pie... Not sure how useful on the nexus 10 but awesome on my galaxy nexus... Can't wait
I guess I could post the link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vlrgCteDac&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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For phones I can see this feature being extremely innovative and useful but for the Nexus 10 it would make more sense to implement something similar to cornerstone or what Samsung has done. Mostly due to the fact that tablets have such large real estate that can be utilized with multiple windows up.
The idea is great for phones but I, personally, would prefer something similar to what I mentioned. However, something is better than nothing.
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I would prefer actual windowed multitasking on the nexus 10, it makes sense on tablets as you have all that space and resolution that gets wasted on stretching out a single app
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What if?

What if we had ICS? What would you appreciate most?
I would love to see sense 4.x on this thing. Resizable sense widgets, updated smooth sense UI, google play apps able to be installed (chrome and other ics apps currently arent)
What would you enjoy most?
*sigh*
where to start..
- proper dual core support
- more apps (chrome, for instants)
- better UI
May not be in ICS, but with 4.2 comes multi-user support!
I'd love to see it get a stock android holo theme. The sense widgets that I needed because they weren't in stock are now included in basic JB anyway, and I prefer the aesthetics. The sense apps look clunky now when compared to stock apps liker contracts and calendar on my nexus 4 & 7. I used top use the notes app, but it became far too buggy.
It would be excellent if the pen was still supported. That's the reason I got the jetstream in the first place!
The one alteration if like to see would be to move the software buttons to the left of the bar, as they currently are on sense.
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Lets see
1. Vanilla Android
2. Host of multiple apps that work on only ICS+ like Chrome, Chameleon, Google Calender
3. Pen support would be a must for me to shift base
4. Voice calls if possible but not a priority
5. Sense UI would be a welcome addition if possible but nor a priority - and would love to see Sense/Sense-less tastes of ICS/JB out there.
Have used 4.2.1 on Xoom and honestly, the Tablet Vanilla Android 4.2.1 and CM 10.1/AOPK is shockingly amazing. Hoping that we get a taste of that on our device as well.
I've been an avid lover of HTC Sense since my original HTC Evo 4G. I even went on to buy the HTC Jetstream and the HTC Evo 4G LTE because they all ran sense, but I can honestly say that I cannot wait for sense to be stripped from this tablet. I've used many other tablets, like the Galaxy Tab 10.1, the Motorola Xoom, and the Nexus 10 which are so much smoother and the lag on this tablet is just downright annoying now. This is actually very sad since the hardware for this tablet is amazing, and I have to attribute this lag to HTC's very poor implementation of sense over another very poor OS, Honeycomb 3.1. I can't wait for our talented devs to get CM10/10.1 up and running on this, because then this tablet will be simply amazing
pen support is critical for me, and as kailash i won't change bases as long as its not around. i know showp1984 already got a pen, and i specifically told him the pen support is something the community here needs.
this tablet is probably the most wasted pile of hardware around..honeycomb is a very poor android version. hopefully the combined forces of the developers suddenly around will get them to help us.
+1 for pen support
I bought this tablet specifically for the pen as I use it a lot connected to HDTV as a whiteboard to help with my kids education and I can't shift without pen support. Before throwing $150 at dev on this tablet I had seriously contemplated giving it up for a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 but am now hopeful we can get the pure Android experience (without Sense bloat) that this hardware deserves.
Go devs, we're rooting for ya!
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guru_shastri said:
pen support is critical for me, and as kailash i won't change bases as long as its not around. i know showp1984 already got a pen, and i specifically told him the pen support is something the community here needs.
this tablet is probably the most wasted pile of hardware around..honeycomb is a very poor android version. hopefully the combined forces of the developers suddenly around will get them to help us.
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In regard to the pen, while browsing on the HTC Flyer Section, found that Dexter_nlb has got the pen to work pretty decently for the Flyer at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795342. Assuming that the same/similar hardware has gone into building the Jetstream, I am guessing that the similar process/code would be able to get us working pen on Jetstream JB (once and when we do get it). However, not knowing much about coding, I assume that it would be a dev-to dev decision about using the work done by Dexter_nlb. In any case, here is to hoping on getting a fully working JB on our Jetstream real soon.
Pen support is a deal breaker for me as well, it was the main reason I purchased the Jetstream after all.
Project butter would be fantastic, but I don't see pen support in JB ever happening. Are there any more optimizations and improvements that could be made to the honeycomb roms we have?
both the flyer and the lenovo tablet got their pen running on ICS..can't imagine it'll be too hard getting it to run with JB. and honestly, even "just" ics would be so much better.
we've gone so far..i won't lose hope now.

Why does anyone care about jellybean?

Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
I think it's mostly just human nature at play. People always crave what they can't have. Or they want the next best thing. Those desires, plus greed, are what move societies along the development continuum. I'm not trying to make this a bad thing - its how we move forward. I just can't stand the crying and complaining from some.
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
flappjaxxx said:
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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LMAO!!!! Posted that on Facebook, nice reply Flapps
Project Butter or Buffer
Anthony820 said:
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
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If you ever played with a JB device everything is smooth and fast.
The advances made to the drop down window are worth it alone.
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flappjaxxx said:
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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I would definitely agree with that statement
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
Project butter, Google now, Google keeps giving.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I couldn't care less about project butter..smoothness is nice, but I'm not kid. I don't need to show up my iPhone carrying friends with how amazingly my phone transitions from swipe to swipe...
Google now however...now that is worth an upgrade.
While I am so greatfull that some excellent devs have brought a half decent port to ICS ROMs...it is just that- half decent compared to it's current incarnation on job ROMs.
If there is one thing that saddens me about us being no longer in line to receive official JB on our phones, it's that we may never see the latest enhancements to GN. We have to hope that some poor, glutton for punishment dev, takes up the cause and brings us these. Unfortunately, from what I've read, this will require a complete overhaul and will need to be started from the ground up as Google has made a lot of changes to bring greater speed and functionality to search...My understanding is that, at present, there is no dev crazy enough to undertake this...
Although....ahem....cough...cough.....I have ....on occasion, ....you know....kinda questioned flapjaxxx's sanity:laugh:
If anyone can...FJ can...
but he still needs source, or it's a dead stick....
My wife has the Note2, and I gotta say, that it's a smooth and sweet running machine on Official JB.
I've always viewed ICS as the "windows ME" version of android...runs ok, but just kinda glitchy, and ultimately the stepping stone for the next generation of good software.
JB official is some badazz software...IMHO....g
I second that!!!
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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oh, so THAT's why my battery dies in record time. I loss 10% while drawing a picture

True Android Multiwindow!!

I'm Chinese on mainland of China. Today I read a news about the so called "Android Window System ". First of all I just think it would be a ugly copycat of floating apps or something similar, but while I was watching the demo video I was totally shocked. It might be really a breakthrough for android tablet in my eyes. I don't know how many of you can read Chinese and can link to this video site due to China's Government Firewall, but if you can, you must have a look.
The news site : http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/244878.htm
The video site : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTgzMjAwNDMy.html?x
(there are three demo videos in the news, I post one of the video address here, you can find all the three in the last of the news. If anyone interested in helping me to post in YouTube, just contact me. )
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Cool I want this
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6 words: I want, I want, I want!
This better go open source...
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This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
Please do not spread misinformation! Do your research! It'd be nice to have but...
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This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
Please do not spread misinformation! Do your research! It'd be nice to have but...
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I didn't mention it is any official Android version. It's true that it is for Rockchip's devices and use Rockchip's own sdk. I just wanted to show you guys what these devices can actually do. Multiwindow may not be useful on phones, but I want it on my tablet, and I believe many nexus10 owners think the same.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
auronm scorese
It is highly desirable that Google implemented in the next version of Android (4.3 or 5.0) MULTI management of native to their Nexus devices.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
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Cornerstone was stopped by Google because it supposedly caused lots of issues
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I know they did. I said they intervened.
CM tried to but Google stopped them. It was mostly due to the integrity of app Window resizing.
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Not looking forward to 4.4(Desperately)

Hi Guys,
Now that 4.4 Kit Kat has been announced, i see a mad rush of people asking when will we get it and stuff. My question is what are the changes you are looking forward from Kit Kat that makes your phone great. Is there any one single must have feature in Kitkat, that you want badly. Answer for me is NO.
4.2.2. is running absolutely fine on G2, it pretty much flies, gives a great battery life as well. I would rather have LG take 3-4 months and then deliver a good clean bug free version, rather then deliver half cooked ROM to just rush it. 4.3 was just an OK update, and so is 4.4.
So guess we should just enjoy our phone right now, and not worry too much about 4.4. It will come when it has to, for now there is not even one single thing that 4.4 can do but not 4.2.2.
Have fun and keep smiling.
A very happy G2 Owner.
It's the latest & greatest from Google.
We all want KitKat, trust me
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RG3 said:
It's the latest & greatest from Google.
We all want KitKat, trust me
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Latest yes, but greatest, a question mark. Also i am not in denial that we don't want it, my question is what is the rush. It will def come, but what is the feature that you want from Kit Kat to work right now on your phone.
All you need to know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7TD3Z03l2I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Yes we all want KitKat!
The one and only reason for me....
Host Card Emulation! No for stupid secure elements for Google Wallet!
Because it's new. Nuff said
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because our G2 is not yet as smooth as it could/should be
There's Always that one guy that no matter how good the thing that everyone wants is he will without fail post up how he doesn't want it.....
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guys, to be fair, when jellybean came out, it absolutely 100 percent ruined the galaxy s3. who knows if LG has optimized their ui properly for kitkat yet.. Samsung sure didn't until pretty much recently.. and its still laggy. if any of you had an s3, youd probably remember how fast, smooth and zippy the phone was when it launched and had ics. it was the best phone I'd ever used. then jellybean came.. and it was awful. everything became laggy, slow, frame rate dropped horrendously.. it was just terrible. so yeah, i agree with this guy.. then again I'm rooted so i have a choice lol
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After running almost every release of ICS and JellyBean on my Gnex, I can say the "behind the scenes" improvements Google made in 4.3 made the phone a LOT smoother/faster. I know they did a lot of work in regards to memory usage, garbage collection, etc.
It also looks like they may have continued that work in 4.4, and if thats the case I would expect it to be another update that we would actually WANT, vs the original JellyBean releases.
There isnt really anything I *have* to have in KitKat, but once the third party ROMs mature Im sure Ill install it. I just find it funny that 4.3 nightlies JUST started a couple weeks ago, and now we're already looking at KitKat coming up.
Again as I said I absolutely want it, just that there is no rush or burning desire to have it today.
Let LG take sometime and give us a good rom, till then I am pretty good.
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bb12489 said:
Yes we all want KitKat!
The one and only reason for me....
Host Card Emulation! No for stupid secure elements for Google Wallet!
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I am with you on that - thanks for making me aware of this feature of 4.4 !
AndroJak said:
I am with you on that - thanks for making me aware of this feature of 4.4 !
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Did Google release the 3.10 kernel with Kitkat?
The full screen mode when using aps I would definitely love. Those nav buttons take up a lot of space when playing games and using some apps.
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I'm looking forward to the native IR Blaster support so we can get some really good remote control apps that work across all devices that have IR Blasters (ONE, G2, S4, Note3, etc...)
I agree with a previous post about how much smoother 4.3 was over 4.2 and how 4.4 looks even better. So I want that. G2 already has almost no lag in my experience so I am excited to see it on 4.3 or 4.4. Also I want to get this device above 4.3 for the Trim Support. Every Android Device and ROM I have used have been great for a few weeks then bit by bit t h e y s l o w down. So it will be good to not have that issue much longer.
But right now I am surprised by how much I like the LG Skin. I hope for 4.3 or 4.4 versions that they keep it at the current level, don't add more to compete with Sammie, and just refine what they have already.
The native IR support is what makes me want 4.4 the most. At first I thought it was kind of gimmicky until I realized that it has much more use to me than I could have imagined. I work in the AV industry and being able to control displays in the field from my phone is a huge help.
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I heard that Kitkat has better ram and also power management. Is it really that significant?
I'm more concern on the battery life though
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Is there any one single must have feature in Kitkat, that you want badly
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I'm pretty sure that LG had access to KitKat sources long ago, since July at least and steady working on porting to G2
The must have features are: OpenGL 3.0 ES support, and navbar customization and hiding. W/o these features G2 is like a large bit crippled
Android 4.4
amankapoor4 said:
Hi Guys,
Now that 4.4 Kit Kat has been announced, i see a mad rush of people asking when will we get it and stuff. My question is what are the changes you are looking forward from Kit Kat that makes your phone great. Is there any one single must have feature in Kitkat, that you want badly. Answer for me is NO.
4.2.2. is running absolutely fine on G2, it pretty much flies, gives a great battery life as well. I would rather have LG take 3-4 months and then deliver a good clean bug free version, rather then deliver half cooked ROM to just rush it. 4.3 was just an OK update, and so is 4.4.
So guess we should just enjoy our phone right now, and not worry too much about 4.4. It will come when it has to, for now there is not even one single thing that 4.4 can do but not 4.2.2.
Have fun and keep smiling.
A very happy G2 Owner.
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Open gl 3.0?
4.2.2 Very smal Lag...
beter Keyboard...
Beter Browser...
int itn
Android 4.4 is good for Lg G2

[KitKat 4.4 Update] Nexus 10 won't Get Translucent Navigation and Notification Bars!

Sadly, Google Nexus 10 will not get the Translucent Navigation and Notification Bars with the Android 4.4.1 KitKat update, which allow the wallpaper to go full screen from top to bottom like in the Nexus 5.
Google devs Disabled the Translucent bars on Nexus 10 (Manta) because it "performs poorly on this device"... 2GB Ram and a powerful Quad-core Mali TS04 GPU and it performs poorly ?! May be because of the High-res display, I personally think it's a GPU issue.
I know not everyone cares about a the "Translucent bar" issue that can easily be reverted, but what I am trying to find out is a reasonable explanation from Google regarding this matter.
Manta source code includes the following code listed on [config.xml] which contains the device configurations, Screenshot below too.
Code:
<!-- Translucent status & navigation bars perform poorly on this device -->
<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">false</bool>
* Update [5-Nov]: I have contacted Google and currently awaiting a response, Hopefully I will get one...
* Google Reply [8-Nov]: Google's reply was a little disappointing but at least they promised to tell the users if they will "remove" any feature from the update, which is good. Here is the email:
Hi Joseph,
Thank you for contacting Google, I'd be happy to help you out with your question on the KitKat update. I'll do my best to provide you with a solution.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, we can only provide information for updates that are supported by your device right now. Google will let all of their customers about what the new update includes. You will not be left in the dark on what Google added/removed from the update.
Regards,
*******
The Google Team
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Latest KitKat 4.4 build for Nexus 10 is (KRT16S)
Unbelievable! Hope they give us, at least, the option to activate it.
That's disappointing. Will the devs be able to enable it?
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That's disappointing. Will the devs be able to enable it?
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Yes, all they have to do is to change the manta source code
Code:
<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">false</bool>
to
Code:
<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">true</bool>
“Sorry guys, your high end device just can't support what is essentially an extremely minor change. Don't worry, there's good news: you can throw down another $500 on the new nexus 10 when it comes out. We promise to fully support it.“
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That's crazy, I have transparent nav bar and status bar on my home screen thru PA. Idk what Google is doing, but the translucent bars work perfectly the way PA is doing it.
The way things have been going with android lately, I'm surprised we're getting kit kat at all. This is most likely my last nexus device, maybe even android.
The Google experience launcher also performs quite poorly on my n10 while it runs perfectly smooth on my n4.
schmolch said:
The Google experience launcher also performs quite poorly on my n10 while it runs perfectly smooth on my n4.
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I think it either the GPU or the Screen resolution 2560x1600 that cause the problem, but why ?
Actually, now that I think about it I have an alternate theory.
There's a very good chance I'm off base here, but on my Nexus 10 I've noticed that there are some very occasional graphical glitches ( back lights flickering, and horizontal lines) that have to do with things been overlaid on top of each other. Maybe the transparency was causing similar graphical glitches. That said, if that is the reason they decided to leave it out then Google really screwed up here. They need to fix the underlying problem, not just remove transparency from the status bar.
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I hope 4.4 improves performance! My N10 feels so... Outdated. Its not laggy as such but its definitely not smooth!
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Did they give a more exact release date for manta? Haven't seen any firm date in my searches is why I ask. But it appears the source is ready for release with this kind if detail.
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Nathtech said:
I hope 4.4 improves performance! My N10 feels so... Outdated. Its not laggy as such but its definitely not smooth!
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My N10 has never been "smooth" since the day I opened the box. Stock or custom roms, many different kernels and I still feel like I took a $500 dollar hit for a 350 dollar tablet. I am considering selling it
Lesser Version said:
My N10 has never been "smooth" since the day I opened the box. Stock or custom roms, many different kernels and I still feel like I took a $500 dollar hit for a 350 dollar tablet. I am considering selling it
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At least wait until KitKat, you never know what it might do to our tablet.
Also, isn't it weird that every other nexus device including the gnex already has a 4.4 ROM, whilst we still don't? I really want to try it out!
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Did they give a more exact release date for manta? Haven't seen any firm date in my searches is why I ask. But it appears the source is ready for release with this kind if detail.
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No date yet, the source is still a work in progress... but it doesn't look good for the manta so far! it's the only device that have this feature disabled without a reasonable explanation.
The final 4.4 hasn't even been released for the Nexus 10 yet guys, relax.
The Mali T604 is a bottleneck for the nexus 10.
It has the same memory bandwidth as ipad 3 & 4 12.8gbps but pushing almost 25% more pixels. On top of that android is not as GPU optimized.
While the t604 would be great at 720 and 1080p, 2560x1600 is maxing out the gpus capabilities.
guitarofozz said:
The final 4.4 hasn't even been released for the Nexus 10 yet guys, relax.
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Yeah, we're gonna have it thru PA anyways. But if that is official, I'm not too fond of Google's decisions lately. No transparent bars for us, no 4.4 (the version of android for older devices) on older Nexi.
Its VERY small things that really don't affect me personally, but y'know.
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Indiwiz said:
Yeah, we're gonna have it thru PA anyways. But if that is official, I'm not too fond of Google's decisions lately. No transparent bars for us, no 4.4 (the version of android for older devices) on older Nexi.
Its VERY small things that really don't affect me personally, but y'know.
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Ehhh... I think its fine. Aokp also has the transparent status bar and as someone else pointed out all you have to do is change one little line to true. It is a little worrying that theynsay it causes problems though. I hope Google doesn't slack on us. Anyways as people have mentioned the manta hasn't even been released officially yet so we can't be sure it won't change right?
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abdel12345 said:
Ehhh... I think its fine. Aokp also has the transparent status bar and as someone else pointed out all you have to do is change one little line to true. It is a little worrying that theynsay it causes problems though. I hope Google doesn't slack on us. Anyways as people have mentioned the manta hasn't even been released officially yet so we can't be sure it won't change right?
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You're 100% right. I don't think Google will let us down though.
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