[KitKat 4.4 Update] Nexus 10 won't Get Translucent Navigation and Notification Bars! - Nexus 10 General

Sadly, Google Nexus 10 will not get the Translucent Navigation and Notification Bars with the Android 4.4.1 KitKat update, which allow the wallpaper to go full screen from top to bottom like in the Nexus 5.
Google devs Disabled the Translucent bars on Nexus 10 (Manta) because it "performs poorly on this device"... 2GB Ram and a powerful Quad-core Mali TS04 GPU and it performs poorly ?! May be because of the High-res display, I personally think it's a GPU issue.
I know not everyone cares about a the "Translucent bar" issue that can easily be reverted, but what I am trying to find out is a reasonable explanation from Google regarding this matter.
Manta source code includes the following code listed on [config.xml] which contains the device configurations, Screenshot below too.
Code:
<!-- Translucent status & navigation bars perform poorly on this device -->
<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">false</bool>
* Update [5-Nov]: I have contacted Google and currently awaiting a response, Hopefully I will get one...
* Google Reply [8-Nov]: Google's reply was a little disappointing but at least they promised to tell the users if they will "remove" any feature from the update, which is good. Here is the email:
Hi Joseph,
Thank you for contacting Google, I'd be happy to help you out with your question on the KitKat update. I'll do my best to provide you with a solution.
Unfortunately, at this point in time, we can only provide information for updates that are supported by your device right now. Google will let all of their customers about what the new update includes. You will not be left in the dark on what Google added/removed from the update.
Regards,
*******
The Google Team
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Latest KitKat 4.4 build for Nexus 10 is (KRT16S)

Unbelievable! Hope they give us, at least, the option to activate it.

That's disappointing. Will the devs be able to enable it?

Warren_Orange said:
That's disappointing. Will the devs be able to enable it?
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Yes, all they have to do is to change the manta source code
Code:
<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">false</bool>
to
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<bool name="config_enableTranslucentDecor">true</bool>

“Sorry guys, your high end device just can't support what is essentially an extremely minor change. Don't worry, there's good news: you can throw down another $500 on the new nexus 10 when it comes out. We promise to fully support it.“
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That's crazy, I have transparent nav bar and status bar on my home screen thru PA. Idk what Google is doing, but the translucent bars work perfectly the way PA is doing it.

The way things have been going with android lately, I'm surprised we're getting kit kat at all. This is most likely my last nexus device, maybe even android.

The Google experience launcher also performs quite poorly on my n10 while it runs perfectly smooth on my n4.

schmolch said:
The Google experience launcher also performs quite poorly on my n10 while it runs perfectly smooth on my n4.
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I think it either the GPU or the Screen resolution 2560x1600 that cause the problem, but why ?

Actually, now that I think about it I have an alternate theory.
There's a very good chance I'm off base here, but on my Nexus 10 I've noticed that there are some very occasional graphical glitches ( back lights flickering, and horizontal lines) that have to do with things been overlaid on top of each other. Maybe the transparency was causing similar graphical glitches. That said, if that is the reason they decided to leave it out then Google really screwed up here. They need to fix the underlying problem, not just remove transparency from the status bar.
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I hope 4.4 improves performance! My N10 feels so... Outdated. Its not laggy as such but its definitely not smooth!
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Did they give a more exact release date for manta? Haven't seen any firm date in my searches is why I ask. But it appears the source is ready for release with this kind if detail.
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Nathtech said:
I hope 4.4 improves performance! My N10 feels so... Outdated. Its not laggy as such but its definitely not smooth!
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My N10 has never been "smooth" since the day I opened the box. Stock or custom roms, many different kernels and I still feel like I took a $500 dollar hit for a 350 dollar tablet. I am considering selling it

Lesser Version said:
My N10 has never been "smooth" since the day I opened the box. Stock or custom roms, many different kernels and I still feel like I took a $500 dollar hit for a 350 dollar tablet. I am considering selling it
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At least wait until KitKat, you never know what it might do to our tablet.
Also, isn't it weird that every other nexus device including the gnex already has a 4.4 ROM, whilst we still don't? I really want to try it out!
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tgrgrd00 said:
Did they give a more exact release date for manta? Haven't seen any firm date in my searches is why I ask. But it appears the source is ready for release with this kind if detail.
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No date yet, the source is still a work in progress... but it doesn't look good for the manta so far! it's the only device that have this feature disabled without a reasonable explanation.

The final 4.4 hasn't even been released for the Nexus 10 yet guys, relax.

The Mali T604 is a bottleneck for the nexus 10.
It has the same memory bandwidth as ipad 3 & 4 12.8gbps but pushing almost 25% more pixels. On top of that android is not as GPU optimized.
While the t604 would be great at 720 and 1080p, 2560x1600 is maxing out the gpus capabilities.

guitarofozz said:
The final 4.4 hasn't even been released for the Nexus 10 yet guys, relax.
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Yeah, we're gonna have it thru PA anyways. But if that is official, I'm not too fond of Google's decisions lately. No transparent bars for us, no 4.4 (the version of android for older devices) on older Nexi.
Its VERY small things that really don't affect me personally, but y'know.
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Indiwiz said:
Yeah, we're gonna have it thru PA anyways. But if that is official, I'm not too fond of Google's decisions lately. No transparent bars for us, no 4.4 (the version of android for older devices) on older Nexi.
Its VERY small things that really don't affect me personally, but y'know.
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Ehhh... I think its fine. Aokp also has the transparent status bar and as someone else pointed out all you have to do is change one little line to true. It is a little worrying that theynsay it causes problems though. I hope Google doesn't slack on us. Anyways as people have mentioned the manta hasn't even been released officially yet so we can't be sure it won't change right?
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abdel12345 said:
Ehhh... I think its fine. Aokp also has the transparent status bar and as someone else pointed out all you have to do is change one little line to true. It is a little worrying that theynsay it causes problems though. I hope Google doesn't slack on us. Anyways as people have mentioned the manta hasn't even been released officially yet so we can't be sure it won't change right?
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You're 100% right. I don't think Google will let us down though.
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What is really known about ice cream sandwich?(besides it should be yummy)

I've seen threads about the prime where the question is "what do we know for SURE" and an obvious answer is nothing really. What about ics? Google searching really doesn't help since it is over posted with no concrete answers I can find.
So what are the main differences besides it being made tobwork on tablets or phones? I have a few answers that sound believable, but I would like to see some sources, not just rumors.
Oh, and trolls aren't needed, this should be a semi-serious topic, not just another wasted spot on the internet..
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One thing we've learned is it eliminates capacitive buttons. That's why the Prime's screen is so large. I think it does bridge the gap between tabs and phones. Downside is it may make it bad for updating current phones.
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Blue Themed
Camera has built in panorama mode
Will launch with Google Shopper and NFC Enabled devices will be able to utilize those features
Gmail is all rethemed
Will be available for the Nexus S Nexus Prime gets it first (expected) then other devices will follow after
Not too many changes, just UI things, don't think requirements are set too high for year old devices to run it
The little icon in the bottom right, looks like a tray with multiple apps in it
Google search bar embedded on very top like Honeycomb Apps/Widgets launcher a lot like Honeycomb
This release is still very early, notice the theming of the power tray
Source: Rootzwiki
BelowTheHeavens said:
Blue Themed
Camera has built in panorama mode
Will launch with Google Shopper and NFC Enabled devices will be able to utilize those features
Gmail is all rethemed
Will be available for the Nexus S Nexus Prime gets it first (expected) then other devices will follow after
Not too many changes, just UI things, don't think requirements are set too high for year old devices to run it
The little icon in the bottom right, looks like a tray with multiple apps in it
Google search bar embedded on very top like Honeycomb Apps/Widgets launcher a lot like Honeycomb
This release is still very early, notice the theming of the power tray
Source: Rootzwiki
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Looks a lot like Touchwiz. Can you confirm if it's involved?
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Aren't there hardware keys?
Ice cream won't need hardware keys?!
Confusing
I think if the design is as good as my hd2 I will buy it and the display will be real hd! 720p.
1.5ghz dualcore processor.
Yes thats what I know for sure.
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jonas2295 said:
Aren't there hardware keys?
Ice cream won't need hardware keys?!
Confusing
I think if the design is as good as my hd2 I will buy it and the display will be real hd! 720p.
1.5ghz dualcore processor.
Yes thats what I know for sure.
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The phone in the pics are nexus s with test version.
And what you know for sure is nexus prime not ICS lol.
What I know: It will be and is intented to work on different device, from hero to gs2, and different screen sizes with an adaptive UI (not sure about this).
One more: it will be awsome!
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tt0204 said:
The phone in the pics are nexus s with test version.
And what you know for sure is nexus prime not ICS lol.
What I know: It will be and is intented to work on different device, from hero to gs2, and different screen sizes with an adaptive UI (not sure about this).
One more: it will be awsome!
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http://pocketnow.com/android/samsungs-legal-team-confirms-nexus-prime
Some sources
But it´s nearly sure that it will have ICS ;D
I've heard the platform called "a marriage between TI and Android," and "a marriage of Gingerbread and Honeycomb." Also, "Honeycomb for phones."
Ice Cream Sandwich is a somewhat faraway version of Android that will look much more like the sexy Honeycomb we phone users have seen from afar (imagine that Android Marketplace look brought to other stock apps), and it might just have the Honeycomb bottom bar too. (Although personally, I'd rather it NOT be there if/when the phone was switched to landscape mode)...

PA Windowed Multitasking

This might just be the feature that pulls me away from AOKP for good. Windowed Multitasking is the one feature that I feel is crippling Android(and iOS for that matter) from rising as a serious competitor to traditional OSes(Windows, OS X, Ubuntu etc.). Anyone else excited for this?
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/28/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
Official source from PA team: https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/P6a1hP3vKxP
+1... looking forward to this for my galaxy and my 10... not really sure how necessary it is for me, or android in general. but maybe I'll realize I can't live without it.
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Already running PA for tablet mode but this just gives me even more reason to stick with them. I was running it on my S3 too but didn't really like it over TW.
Yup, very much looking forward to this. If they pull it off, I'll be a PA man from here on out! From watching the video, their implementation looks much nicer than most too.
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
stiggy2012 said:
It will depend somewhat on what Google are up to though, I'd be amazed if Android 5 doesn't have some form of multi-window mode and should be out in 3-4 weeks...
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And then 1-2 months of bugfixing in ROMs so it actually works ok
I asked about multitasking on PA thread for N10, and the answer wasn't far from what I think it might be the truth, seeing how is it going with the phones and tablets running PA ROM.
"Still far from done, and it's really questionable how exactly it will function on a tablet, seeing how the PA team is focused on phone development mostly. "
Interesting - I hope we get something like this. Another kick-ass developer timduru ported Cornerstone to EOS for the Asus Transformer TF101. It worked quite well. It certainly didn't make the TF101 any faster, but it was definitely something that I think improved the user experience on the tablet. I was able to watch video in one window and surf the net in another. :laugh:
For me, this was the most anticipated feature since I got my first Android tablet (which would be this one... :silly: ). Right now, I'm using the floating browser as a workaround, since the functionality of some apps can also be found on the web. - Except, of course, in offline situations.
I'm eagerly awaiting this, and I know that team PA can pull it off!
Pa just released a new video on Google +... it makes way more sense to me now... this will be rad with pie... Not sure how useful on the nexus 10 but awesome on my galaxy nexus... Can't wait
I guess I could post the link...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vlrgCteDac&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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For phones I can see this feature being extremely innovative and useful but for the Nexus 10 it would make more sense to implement something similar to cornerstone or what Samsung has done. Mostly due to the fact that tablets have such large real estate that can be utilized with multiple windows up.
The idea is great for phones but I, personally, would prefer something similar to what I mentioned. However, something is better than nothing.
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I would prefer actual windowed multitasking on the nexus 10, it makes sense on tablets as you have all that space and resolution that gets wasted on stretching out a single app
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True Android Multiwindow!!

I'm Chinese on mainland of China. Today I read a news about the so called "Android Window System ". First of all I just think it would be a ugly copycat of floating apps or something similar, but while I was watching the demo video I was totally shocked. It might be really a breakthrough for android tablet in my eyes. I don't know how many of you can read Chinese and can link to this video site due to China's Government Firewall, but if you can, you must have a look.
The news site : http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/244878.htm
The video site : http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTgzMjAwNDMy.html?x
(there are three demo videos in the news, I post one of the video address here, you can find all the three in the last of the news. If anyone interested in helping me to post in YouTube, just contact me. )
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Cool I want this
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6 words: I want, I want, I want!
This better go open source...
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This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
Please do not spread misinformation! Do your research! It'd be nice to have but...
johno86 said:
This is no different than Samsung releasing their devices with multi-window.
What you've shown is a Rockchip's device running Rockchip's version of the Android OS on 4.2.2 with the multi-window UI implemented.
This is not Android 4.3, 5.0, 6.0, or 9.0.
Please do not spread misinformation! Do your research! It'd be nice to have but...
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I didn't mention it is any official Android version. It's true that it is for Rockchip's devices and use Rockchip's own sdk. I just wanted to show you guys what these devices can actually do. Multiwindow may not be useful on phones, but I want it on my tablet, and I believe many nexus10 owners think the same.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
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It is highly desirable that Google implemented in the next version of Android (4.3 or 5.0) MULTI management of native to their Nexus devices.
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I understand. I was just saying it's similar to what Samsung released with their multi-window. They already showed it can be done. Rockchip just did there's much better. N10 is capable of anything but unless someone that can do this, for free, it's just more eye-candy. Cornerstone was there but Google intervened, more or less, and we're back to square one. Devs can most definitely utilize cornerstone but they don't. Why is that? Google.
Cool, but not going to happen just yet.
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Cornerstone was stopped by Google because it supposedly caused lots of issues
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I know they did. I said they intervened.
CM tried to but Google stopped them. It was mostly due to the integrity of app Window resizing.
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No one talking about kitkat?

Could seriously breathe new life into the tp seeing as how it's supposed to be built to run on lesser hardware.
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Well, it did just come out. CM hasn't even started on it. Can't say I expect a build for at least a month, could be wrong though.
It doesn't run better on lesser hardware per se, just uses less RAM. I don't think we've really been having issues with memory, and we're still stuck with our slow Snapdragon S3.
With the amount of devs the TouchPad has, we are relying on just a handful of people to get 4.4 on it. I feel 4.3 barely made it to the TouchPad. I would love Kitkat on my beloved tablet but I hate to say that I have my doubts.
jsgraphicart said:
With the amount of devs the TouchPad has, we are relying on just a handful of people to get 4.4 on it. I feel 4.3 barely made it to the TouchPad. I would love Kitkat on my beloved tablet but I hate to say that I have my doubts.
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I don't even think there's a doubt someone will do a build... But it's nice to know that we won't be limited by memory. Anyway, chalk this thread up to boredom. My moto x has almost nil going on so I'm hanging out in here
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murso74 said:
I don't even think there's a doubt someone will do a build... But it's nice to know that we won't be limited by memory. Anyway, chalk this thread up to boredom. My moto x has almost nil going on so I'm hanging out in here
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If someone does though, I just hope its as usable as it is currently. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I am already seeing bugs with ports to that device. Which isnt normal with a Nexus device. So the TouchPad may not be any better. Dont get me wrong, I really hope we see something though.
jsgraphicart said:
If someone does though, I just hope its as usable as it is currently. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I am already seeing bugs with ports to that device. Which isnt normal with a Nexus device. So the TouchPad may not be any better. Dont get me wrong, I really hope we see something though.
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The galaxy nexus is a problematic device. First, google already said no-kitkat for the GN. Second, it's cpu and TI demise.
Your galaxy nexus is now on the list of abandoned nexus devices.
Now, regarding out tablet, first it's a qualcomm so we're not all alone on this one, but it's a very unsuported and old-unknown-binaries rom.
MAYBE someone figures out how to get the camera and bluetooth working. I keep my hopes high.
Not ready
I'm still having problems getting 4.3 settled on my TP. Too many issues (including repartitioning) still need to be solved first.
scy1192 said:
It doesn't run better on lesser hardware per se, just uses less RAM. I don't think we've really been having issues with memory, and we're still stuck with our slow Snapdragon S3.
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I am positive that someone will be get Android 4.4 to work especially with the fact that it uses less RAM for running the applications. Usually XDA and Rootzwiki member drmarble helps at getting the initial work for the next version of Android to work. He helped get Android 4.3 (CM 10.1 and 10.2) to work on the Touchpad. And of course JCSullins will help with developing for Android 4.4.
I am sure ROM builders like Milaq and Shumash will provide CM 11 ROMs that are Android 4.4 based although I wouldn't expect to see a CM 11 ROM until January/February at the earliest and until the official CM 11 development has begun.
Android 4.4 launcher on my HP Touchpad.
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Android 4.4 launcher on my HP Touchpad.
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I tried that too. I dont know why the search bar is of to the left. Maybe its a DPI thing. But we havent seen a Nexus 10 with Kitkat yet. I'm looking forward to seeing what its like on that device.
Running Android 4.4 on my Nexus 7(2012) and I gotta say I love it, except the keyboard pops out every time you navigate to the home screen.
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i just dont see this version becoming popular.
It seems to be more of the integration of other devices and their data harvesting than any user advantages.
Despite the name, and an actual marketing contract with nestle this time, i personally think they chose the right theme colour.
Because its going to be s**t
I see 4.4 more of a stepping stone into a much bigger change to the OS.
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There are a lot of good things under the hood in KitKat. It will be interesting to see if anyone manages to get it running, especially with ART. Too bad my TouchPad is moving on to another owner. Finally decided to pull the trigger on a 2013 Nexus 7 LTE.
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KitKat is coming for the hp touchpad. Even have wifi working for me on the evervolv test build made by flintman
KitKat Pre Alpha Build from Flitnman
Time to start talking about Kitkat and the new ACMEInstaller4/5
Android 4.4 Kitkat Test Build Guide and Links:
[ROM] Evervolv | 4.0.0p1 [AOSP 4.4] [TEST] W/UMS support
Download 4.4 Kitkat Pre Alpha Gapps here:
Notes:Low to Medium battery drain(-4mA to -30mA) h/w video, Test Build Make a Backup!, Automated Updater and Installer, Audio plays with the screen off, Camera, No Bluetooth.
Note: Windows users may need to do the following in order to attach the Touchpad with the USB cable.
1. Go into Device manager. You will see "MTP USB Device" under portable devices.
2. Right Click it and select update driver software
3. Select Browse my computer for driver software.
4. Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer
5. Select USB Mass Storage Device then click next.
and/or
6.To transfer files to PC, turn on USB mass Storage from the USB connection notification on the Android device.
Note(Important): Backup and transfer all your SDcard files to PC. This is a testing build and could wipe files from your SDcard data.
[Note(Important): I would recommend increasing the size of your System Partition for this build. After my install I had 398/400MB free, so Flash the 512MB zip below or use Tailor to adjust the size.
Note(Important): This is an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) rom not a CyanogenMod (CM) rom. Dirty flashing an AOSP rom over a CM rom can causes errors and rebooting issues. Always do a clean install when moving from CM to AOSP and vise versa.
Flash through recovery to change the partition size to 512MB(Gradular&codycoyote)
Download 4.4 Kitkat Pre Alpha Gapps here:
Checkout iMark90's thread here:
I'm running kitkat and yeah its nice
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have to be patient:fingers-crossed:

4.4 KitKat officially confirmed!

The 4.4 update has been confirmed by Morten Aagaard, manager for LG Denmark at a summit in Copenhagen!
Source (in Danish). Translation goes as follows:
"We're bringing an update plan for LG G2 for Android 4.4 KitKat by the end of the year or the start of the next year. But of course there will be an update for G2"
This is great news, guys! That French carrier "report" (which was slightly shady at best) was actually telling the truth!
How does that make you guys feel?
Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
infexis said:
Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
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Yes, I actually did. LG, you know
Thanks for the effort. Was kind is obvious it's cuming though.
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Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
I look forward to updates
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theawesomekarl said:
Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
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I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
Nice nice, looking forward to it!
Well it's not very common for mfg's to skip an android iteration entirely. They usually roll them out incrementally. So yes, color me surprised they are jumping 4.3 and going straight to 4.4.
However, we should probably have some 4.4 lovin' before that in the form of some aosp rom.
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actually i think we really do need an update, but it doesn't have to be 4.4 or whatever. we just need some issues to be fixed or removed in some places like low camera performance at low light in the camera, some stutterings and lags which are preventing the smoothness of the UI and etc. Unless lg get these done, i don't even care if they give android 5 or 6.
I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
juliuslucas said:
I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
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Have you tried G2 Xposed?
A few updates before kit Kat 2016 should be nice, but great news
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lakaw said:
Have you tried G2 Xposed?
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No, I want to stay stock until I feel like I'm missing out on too many features
robogo1982 said:
I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
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And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
Contrary to popular belief, it's not all that uncommon for companies to skip updates. I had the Sony Ericsson xperia x10 which was updated straight from eclair to gingerbread, skipping froyo. It happens, and excitedly believable in this case simply because the phone was launched behind an update. I expect that lg will go through 4.3 and straight to 4.4.
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juliuslucas said:
And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
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Cm10.2...... latest nightly has zero bugs for me. Zero.
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On cm 10.2...if u charging ur device in off mode does it will turn on mode it self ???around 5-10 minute the device turn on it self...
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