So I've noticed that IrDA port isn't working on AOSP roms.. After searching around I saw that people keep on bringing it up over and over again - however, it keeps on getting forgotten about.
So I thought maybe we can start a bounty for a dev who can figure out how to make the thing work and compatible with existing applications on the market (Smart Remote, Touchsquid, Peel). **or** develop an root-enabled version of a remote control app that can work without the need for the IrDA service (see below) and is semi-usable (say with generic Pronto codes)
The only thing I was able to find is this post --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36283352&nocache=1&z=1999432687849488
That talks about the ir_send file and the need for a service with two functions.
I'll start by putting down $40.
So I wonder - does anyone actually want this feature working? Seems like people don't care that much about it on AOSP.. Maybe the thread needs to be moved into general Android dev - might get a betterer response.
IMO, IR is a "wow look at my new shiny phone" feature. When people install a custom ROM they're giving up things like smart screen, the screen hover stuff, and a ton of other pretty cool but not practical features.
So while it would be nice to have a working IR port, it would also be nice to have smart screen working for the head orientation based screen rotation, and the cool finger hover effects, it will not prevent me from going to AOSP.
tl;dr - It would be nice to have, but it's not a deal breaker.
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So while it would be nice to have a working IR port, it would also be nice to have smart screen working for the head orientation based screen rotation, and the cool finger hover effects, it will not prevent me from going to AOSP.
tl;dr - It would be nice to have, but it's not a deal breaker.
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This in spades. All of the strange little features that come on the S4 don't matter to me nearly as much as the speed and customization offered by custom roms/kernels. Of all the silly features, though, having a working ir blaster would probably be my first choice.
Once Google releases the nexus version we will have the drivers and everything for the IR emitter
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Once Google releases the nexus version we will have the drivers and everything for the IR emitter
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Yup, its the first time since the original galaxy s and nexus s that s series has had an identical nexus variant. Just look at how well the original galaxy s phones run aosp. Flawlessly.
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Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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don't turn this thread into a best rom one
A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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First off I just need to know the difference of the 2 I've flashed roms for several years now but I've really ever had this ? Answered for me we all known touchwiz roms are much bigger than Aosp roms so is the space that's not being used by Aosp roms is it available to the user Like almost 600mb that's not being used by this rom ?
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
Yeah beans 17 gives you just the look of Aosp but the Guts of Touchwiz it would be nice to have a Rom that had the mixture of the 2
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My concern is the camera app. Samsung does an awesome job with the camera software. I've always heard, and also confirmed this during my brief fling with the Galaxy Nexus. How are photos on the N2 using the AOSP software?
Beans is a good mixture and hes an awesome dev to boot. He listens to users and includes features they want to see.
The camera app in AOSP quite frankly is s**t. Its finicky, doesnt like low light conditions and is prone to force closing (no fault to the devs as they have been given zero information to build from, its incredible theyve even gotten it to where it is). I dont use my camera alot so I forgot about that.
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
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While there is very little S-pen support in AOSP roms people can always get GMD Spen Control from the Play Store and that will give them a lot of the S-pen functionality back.
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AOSP: pure, straight, unmolested raw Google code. What goes on a Nexus.
TW: Samsung's proprietary skin/software that they build on top of stock android. Hence the size difference. Sense is HTC's version.
Littleguevara is spot on about the camera. That's why I stick with TW. And my battery, GPS and overall stability is better. Now if I had a Nexus 4....
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The 4.4 update has been confirmed by Morten Aagaard, manager for LG Denmark at a summit in Copenhagen!
Source (in Danish). Translation goes as follows:
"We're bringing an update plan for LG G2 for Android 4.4 KitKat by the end of the year or the start of the next year. But of course there will be an update for G2"
This is great news, guys! That French carrier "report" (which was slightly shady at best) was actually telling the truth!
How does that make you guys feel?
Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
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Did we ever doubt that it would get kitkat? We dont need confirmation to know this
And in my opinion the date doesnt matter unless its like supersoon to be excited about or superlate to be dissapointed, but this was expected.
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Yes, I actually did. LG, you know
Thanks for the effort. Was kind is obvious it's cuming though.
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Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
I look forward to updates
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Kitkat or not, the real update is getting the UI improved.
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I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
Nice nice, looking forward to it!
Well it's not very common for mfg's to skip an android iteration entirely. They usually roll them out incrementally. So yes, color me surprised they are jumping 4.3 and going straight to 4.4.
However, we should probably have some 4.4 lovin' before that in the form of some aosp rom.
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actually i think we really do need an update, but it doesn't have to be 4.4 or whatever. we just need some issues to be fixed or removed in some places like low camera performance at low light in the camera, some stutterings and lags which are preventing the smoothness of the UI and etc. Unless lg get these done, i don't even care if they give android 5 or 6.
I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
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I absolutely love what LG has done with Android. It's fast, customizable, beautiful and very, very stable. Not a single crash, and I've been using the phone a lot for six days now. However, transparency for 3rd party launchers and ability to hide the navigation bar would be cool. Otherwise I have no complaints. Best non-AOSP experience for me.
LG has impressed me so far, with the only problem being some of the performance problems (probably due to LG choosing a conservative scheduler and the aggressive throttling). This is with no doubt the best phone I've had. Samsung can go into a corner and adore their blue-screen-tech.
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Have you tried G2 Xposed?
A few updates before kit Kat 2016 should be nice, but great news
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Have you tried G2 Xposed?
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No, I want to stay stock until I feel like I'm missing out on too many features
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I come from TouchWiz so I don't understand what's all the gripe about. Samsung enabled notification bar toggle removal with 4.3 (not sooner) and LG's UI allows me to tweak and add and customize pretty much everything I want.
Case in point: when I plug in my headset, I can edit the apps in the bottom mini-drawer instead of using the preset.
All I'm waiting for from 4.4 are TRIM and ART.
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And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
Contrary to popular belief, it's not all that uncommon for companies to skip updates. I had the Sony Ericsson xperia x10 which was updated straight from eclair to gingerbread, skipping froyo. It happens, and excitedly believable in this case simply because the phone was launched behind an update. I expect that lg will go through 4.3 and straight to 4.4.
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And OpenGL ES 3.0 (from 4.3 but still new on G2)!
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Cm10.2...... latest nightly has zero bugs for me. Zero.
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On cm 10.2...if u charging ur device in off mode does it will turn on mode it self ???around 5-10 minute the device turn on it self...
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There's new button on navigation bar called MW-button. When it is long pressed a new screen appears that is split in two. Each having an application drawer where all applications can be scrolled. On clicking an application, it appears in the split view on that side.
Would love for Paranoid Android to have MultiWindow but the developers involved have stated a few times that Multi Window won't be implemented.
I love this mock up! wish it can come true
This can be done with Xposed and the XMultiWindow module.
Or xhalo floating windows, also an xposed module, mostly works a treat.
The Nexus 5, like the Nexus 4, is based off of another LG phone, right? Namely the G2, as the N4 was based on the Optimus G. And people have been porting the Split Window feature from the Flex to the G2 since they're essentially the same phone, so is it possible to port over again?
I like the idea but I won't implement it till it can be proven that haven't two apps are useful while using only half the screen.
Let's assume that another app is only one click away. Under want circumstances would having two apps at be useful understanding that you can see half the content you usual do are useful? For most apps I have found the screen size to be small for two applications especially while utilizing the keyboard. There is simple not enough space for two applications . Until this can be proven more useful than having a temporary mini application then it won't be supported in PA.
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I would like this feature too. I use it for college when typing and researching (Brower/OfficeSuite).
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I think its useless for phones (being a owner of note 2) but it may be very useful for tablets
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I think its useless for phones (being a owner of note 2) but it may be very useful for tablets
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agree
Nubia X6 have this function
Would love this option. Mostly to be able to listen to Youtube and using the phone for whatever else at the same time. But there might be easier solutions for this 'problem'...
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I think its useless for phones (being a owner of note 2) but it may be very useful for tablets
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I use multi-window a lot on galaxy note 8. If you are learning a new language you will find it invaluable. In fact any ROM without multi-window capability is unsuitable for a tablet.
I feel like this feature is far more relevant with the Nexus 6 in the game...
Has anyone learn if this is in the making?, would love to have this on the nexus 6....to put this on top of all Androids' Family
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Has anyone learn if this is in the making?, would love to have this on the nexus 6....to put this on top of all Androids' Family
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We already stated that it won't be worked on.
#stayparanoid
The S Pen is one of the main the reasons for the Note Range, and I think that CM is big enough now to not only build these generic ROMs but should take some time to develop specifics, I really LOVE CM but due to the fact that the S Pen functionality is so poorly integrated (it really is) I cant use CM, and I think that CM has enough people involved in developing to take the S Pen functionality and get it into CM for the Note Range, I know it won't be easy but really, I'm sure it can be done, and would love to see it, similarly the fact that the heartrate monitor etc. is just ignored by CM is another example of where generic ROMs miss out... I know its easy to sit here and chirp but I'm so peeved myself, Having tried so many CM based ROMs for the Note 4 and just not being able to use the things (not easily anyhow) specific to the Note 4.
EDIT: Sorry think this is in the wrong section... hopefully Mod will move it appropriately.
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The S Pen is one of the main the reasons for the Note Range, and I think that CM is big enough now to not only build these generic ROMs but should take some time to develop specifics, I really LOVE CM but due to the fact that the S Pen functionality is so poorly integrated (it really is) I cant use CM, and I think that CM has enough people involved in developing to take the S Pen functionality and get it into CM for the Note Range, I know it won't be easy but really, I'm sure it can be done, and would love to see it, similarly the fact that the heartrate monitor etc. is just ignored by CM is another example of where generic ROMs miss out... I know its easy to sit here and chirp but I'm so peeved myself, Having tried so many CM based ROMs for the Note 4 and just not being able to use the things (not easily anyhow) specific to the Note 4.
EDIT: Sorry think this is in the wrong section... hopefully Mod will move it appropriately.
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i always wish there would be a stock android + samsung features (multi window, camera, apps, spen)
would be much cooler than touchwiz and there is many useless stuff in tw but much missing in stock android
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Careful, you might be ridiculed for saying a 'possible negative' comment about CM... Haha. Although I personally don't think it is. Seems like a bit of a touchy subject.
It would be awesome though I agree.
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@Jostian, I think this app goes a long way towards answering your call to action.
Unfortunately I have an Exynos device so at present I can't test CM 12.
I wouldn't mind just having CM available on my variant of the Note 4 at all. Or more than 1 ROM full stop.
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I wouldn't mind just having CM available on my variant of the Note 4 at all. Or more than 1 ROM full stop.
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Its nice to have and works great but you have to give up a lot of features including any Samsung accessories you may use and fast charging. Also while battery life is more then enough to get you through the day it's not as great as stock TW battery life.
Still the same for me I have CM also on all my android devices, but not on my note4, because I love the spend features, and I will miss this on CM, if anyone has a 3partyApp that has the same functions like the samsung spen app, please let me know.