Snapdragon BatteryGuru experience - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Themes and Apps

So, Snapdragon's battery management app just came out of beta, any of you have any comments about your experience with the app on the S4?
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Saw this earlier, was kinda wanting to download but idk how itll react with faux kernel And fauxclock
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MrPlNK said:
Saw this earlier, was kinda wanting to download but idk how itll react with faux kernel And fauxclock
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i don't think this impacts your kernel. Kernels modify how the hardware talks with the phone. This app is the contrary, it impacts how the software talk to the phone. I think its worth a try either way
In any case, i installed the app earlier, it takes about 2 days to learn my behavior, i will see how it work in a couple of days and i'll report back. Usually, i can get a full day of light to moderate use and still have 30 - 40 % when i get home. we'll see with this app

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i don't think this impacts your kernel. Kernels modify how the hardware talks with the phone. This app is the contrary, it impacts how the software talk to the phone. I think its worth a try either way
In any case, i installed the app earlier, it takes about 2 days to learn my behavior, i will see how it work in a couple of days and i'll report back. Usually, i can get a full day of light to moderate use and still have 30 - 40 % when i get home. we'll see with this app
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Trying it too .. If qualcomm didn't make it i don't think i would though lol.. Will report back and see what's what
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I can't believe people are spending 7 bucks on kernel adjustments and sound adjustments. Seems like robbery to me. Titanium backup is pretty much the most useful app ever and it doesn't cost that much.
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TechSilver13 said:
I can't believe people are spending 7 bucks on kernel adjustments and sound adjustments. Seems like robbery to me. Titanium backup is pretty much the most useful app ever and it doesn't cost that much.
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Whats $7? And tibu doesnt tweak kernels
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TechSilver13 said:
I can't believe people are spending 7 bucks on kernel adjustments and sound adjustments. Seems like robbery to me. Titanium backup is pretty much the most useful app ever and it doesn't cost that much.
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I believe most people are downloading the apps to support the dev. In this case namely Faux. He made a good kernel so why not support him..
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TechSilver13 said:
I can't believe people are spending 7 bucks on kernel adjustments and sound adjustments. Seems like robbery to me. Titanium backup is pretty much the most useful app ever and it doesn't cost that much.
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I can't believe some people don't support their developers.
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Whats $7? And tibu doesnt tweak kernels
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i think hes talking about fauxclock and fauxsound. I wouldnt pay for that, but i do trust the developper as hes been the best kernel maker since the S2

mine just got out of learning mode...will check back in 48 hours with some stats

this is why you pay for a kernel tweaker ,and thats overclocked to 2.1 and screen time of 2 hours and talk time of about 1 and half hours and still have 22 percent to go that will take me over 24 hours, ohh and i just started using battery guru yesterday still in learning mode

Interesting app, installed it and will test it over the next few days.
This should have come integrated with all factory roms, instead of gimiky junk.
Thanks for sharing.
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tbh 24 hours with 2 hours screen on is not that good. If i dont use wifi, just LTE every day i get 24-30 hours with about 2.5 hours screen on thats OC'ed just a tad. Now using wifi as much as i can i can get 5-6 hours screen on same time frame...

KGB7 said:
Interesting app, installed it and will test it over the next few days.
This should have come integrated with all factory roms, instead of gimiky junk.
Thanks for sharing.
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While I completely agree with you that it should have come pre-installed, there's also the chance that this, too, is a gimmicky app! I've got 4 hours left in "learning mode," so we'll see.... I'm already getting incredible battery life, so I don't have much to complain about!
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F you for seeing the point in supporting devs. I spent 7hrs straight last night debugging my aospa build - all for free - no charge to you. Thanks.

well, very interesting results. I've been out of learning mode for about 2 days, and i have to say i really see a considerable difference. First, i would just like to point out i'm not a HEAVY user, more moderate to light. I'm an insurance broker, i'm on the phone from 9am to 5pm about 80% of the day (on land line), so my screen time is about 1.5 hour at 5pm, i mostly check social networks, emails, tapatalk, some youtube vids during breaks, my apps update automatically during the day. On a good day, i come home with 40%, on a day of heavy usage, about 20%, i'm always on lte tho. I also never disable wifi, bt, gps and most other features.
Today has really been the determining day because its the first day the counter was on. When i came home today, i had 1h17 mins of screen time and.................................68% left!!!! Then from about 6pm to about 30 minutes before bedtime bedtime and adding an another 30 mins of screen time (1:00am EST) i lost an extra 15% to bring me down to 53% just before i plugged it for the night. Thats a HUGE improvement. The great thing about this is that all day, i received all my FB notification instantly, all my emails and other stuff. I have not seen any cut in functionality.
So this phone was unplugged at 7am this morning, and in 17 hours, with just under 2 hours of screentime, and light to moderate use, i lost in total, 47% of juice and i didn't notice giving up any functionality.
I have to say i'm impressed. I hope this was not just a really good day, and that this app actually was the reason for the improvement.

myn came out of learning yesterday i am using fauxs kernel too but this is light usage but still this is great,14 hours and still at 78 percent wow

Mine came out of leaning about 10pm last night. I noticed using power saving mode helped a lot without sacrificing normal performance just using apps and checking messages and stuff. Standby with batteryguru my idle almost flat line which helps a lot. Usage with power saving on and off with battery guru was almost the same. Battery just seemed to stretch. Automatic brightness also seems to work better. Before battery guru kicked in auto brightness was all over the place or did not work very well, more of not working well. Now auto brightness is fairly consistent though the delay us often 1-5 seconds. Still much better than before. It also seemed to get better battery life with my at&t sim rather than T-Mobile. I think part of it is T-Mobile bloatware running in the background and probably the better reception. But in tmobile's defense I do have to say I am impressed with the network. I am seriously considering switching to T-Mobile now. Their dc hspa+ and lte were both fairly consistent at ~10mbps with low latency. Also am getting much better signal at my apartment. At work is a mixed bag though. Hard pulling signal in the reception challenged places where in would get a signal with atnt. At&t lte though is much faster. Hardly dipped below 10megs and often got 20-30mb/s. I am going to return my gs4 though and see what the Google edition brings. I have some issues with mine that I can't isolate to hardware or software any further unless I root and I won't do that becuae I haven't committed to the phone yet. Also have a two tone screen. One side is darker than the other. Was not a big deal until I started noticing how bad the black crush was on the darker/left side and loss of details in videos. I was not actively looking for this loss of clarity either. After extensive display testing now I can't shake the obvious disparity and hope i get abetter screen if I get a Google gs4. Anyways, went off topic, but battery guru is the real deal. Very noticeable.improvement in battery and phone got less hot and took longer to get to a borderline warmth level. Definitely worth looking into this app to improve battery. With the right tweaks, root access and optimizing some of the apps for black background (why the hell samsung went back to white backgrounds like email have no clue) this phone could probably get 6h in a heavy day of usage easily, provided no GPU intensive apps/games are played.
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Just some stats since downloading this app and it being out of learning mode and I'm amazed.. I normally get about 12-14 hours no charge with about 30% left.. Although I did put this on the charger for about 20 minutes last night the last full charge was 4pm yesterday and I'm just now putting it on the charger at 12pm today.. Now one problem is it learns how you use your phone and adjusts to your usage, that said, I work from 430pm to 430am Monday thru Thursday and 430 till 2am at the latest on Fridays so my phone isn't on Wi-Fi in those hours so when I got off work early last night this app automatically had my Wi-Fi off cause the 2 day learning period was during the week. So I didn't realize it and did some heavy browsing. But overall this app is amazing and a must have..
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How bad really is the battery?

So i want to port to verizon and get a 4g phone to lock in my unlimited data, but the horror stories of bad battery life are scaring me!
realistically, can you get through one day of moderate use without charging?
I just got mine, and am trying to train the battery and prune services to get maximum run time.
My first day with it, I ran Pandora in the car, plus Google Nav, plus LTE web browsing, etc. I got 4.5 hours full charge to shutdown.
I am still cycling the battery, and I used Juice Defender free for a few days. Now I am playing with Green Power Free, which I use on my froYo tablet. I can get around 8 hours off charger, now, on the OEM battery.
I want to keep the slim(-ish) profile, so i don't want the extended battery with back. But, I will probably experiment with the fleabay batteries and see what I can get.
Battery is a huge suck factor with the TBolt. But, no worse than the Evo 4G that I also ran for a month. And, for me, the speeds and coverage are better with LTE than wiMax.
I have a feeling that I will be shuffling the phone from charger at home to charger in car to charger at office. I hope that the USB port doesn't break....
I get around 14 hours a charge with light-moderate usage. If I don't use my phone at all it'll last a couple days. If I'm streaming lots of music, browsing the web, and making calls I get 6 hours at most.
It doesn't bother me because I am always somewhere I can charge if need be.
The battery life on the Thunderbolt does leave a little to be desired. That being said, if you want the fastest download and upload speeds than this is your phone. By rooting, you can use different kernels and profiles that CAN extend the battery but that is only a band-aid. I just posted this in another thread two seconds ago but ill post it here as well.
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Getting these speeds require battery. If your happy with your 3G than get a different phone and you will get better battery. Its up to you.
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I get around 14 hours a charge with light-moderate usage. If I don't use my phone at all it'll last a couple days. If I'm streaming lots of music, browsing the web, and making calls I get 6 hours at most.
It doesn't bother me because I am always somewhere I can charge if need be.
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my post has nothing to with this thread, but dude..........you signature....HILARIOUS!!!!!!
I get 4-6 hours per battery on my thunderbolt. Screw trying to ooze every bit of battery life out of it. That's not why I bought it. 4g and bluetooth are always on and I use location services and push emails. Twitter and rss feeds autoupdate.
I bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6E5Z2
and it works great to charge all batteries. The extra batteries work pretty good, but the phone gets a little confused so I don't go below about 15-20% because sometimes it just shuts down. I think that is the battery software not being able to read the different batteries. The charger can charge one battery before my phone dies so I just switch as needed.
hmm, not exactly what i was hoping to hear. honestly i don't need a 4g phone now, but i want to grandfather in unlimited 4g before verizon takes that option away.
how good can the battery life get if you undervolt, turn off 4g when you're not web browsing, and buy the biggest battery that isn't obnoxiously large? how does the thunderbolt compare to the revolution or charge?
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hmm, not exactly what i was hoping to hear. honestly i don't need a 4g phone now, but i want to grandfather in unlimited 4g before verizon takes that option away.
how good can the battery life get if you undervolt, turn off 4g when you're not web browsing, and buy the biggest battery that isn't obnoxiously large? how does the thunderbolt compare to the revolution or charge?
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If you don't want a huge battery get the seidio slim .. works better than stock for me and I get around 12 hours of heavy usage.. then when it dies I switch to the stock if I'm not home.
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I usually get 5 hrs or so in a 4G area. A whole day roughly 10 hrs in a 3G area.
I just got my thunderbolt a few days ago and I've been stuck spending time next to a charger all the time so far but its worth the speeds!
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I have the extended battery... It's really not that bad....when holding in hand u have a better grip...I'm running stock and and have 4G off cause my area don't have 4G yet but when at work I'm in 4G zone. I only use 4G when I'm downloading a big file anyway....I'm sure if we ever get gb the battery will get better...will I'm hopeing at lease..lol
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I lasted 13 hours... But 4G was off for about 8 hours.
Battery blows and something is draining the crap out of it even when sleeping. I'm gonna start analyzing with system panel soon to find the problem.
On a rom that has a toggle or using the lte on off app, you can toggle down to cdma/evdo unless you need to do something data intensive. Leaving lte on all the time isn't nessesary. Using aosp and stock battery, I easily make it through the day. I have the extended one though if I feel like it. Too heavy imo. Plus I look retarded when only I have the huge battery around 10 friends with super thin iphone 4's.
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On a rom that has a toggle or using the lte on off app, you can toggle down to cdma/evdo unless you need to do something data intensive. Leaving lte on all the time isn't nessesary. Using aosp and stock battery, I easily make it through the day. I have the extended one though if I feel like it. Too heavy imo. Plus I look retarded when only I have the huge battery around 10 friends with super thin iphone 4's.
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You don't make it through the day with lte on all the time using aosp?
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You don't make it through the day with lte on all the time using aosp?
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I do sometimes. I just use my phone so much I can get pretty low on 3g alone. So unless I'm on youtube or something I stay on 3g.
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It's difficult to say whether one makes it through the day with moderate use since everyone's definition of moderate use is different. I'm rooted with das BAMF remix 1.8, stock kernel and settings, and after about 100 txt messages, half hour's worth of calls, 30 min. or so of gaming, and 30 min to hour of web browsing, all over 15 hours, my phone was at 68% at the end of the day. That's moderate usage for me, but most or some might call that light usage though. Oh and LTE on the entire time, but Wifi used for about 4 of those 15 hours.
my battery life is absolutely outstanding on this phone, even with 4g on all the time. maybe i just lucked out with a good phone?
I'm pretty sure the Revolution isn't that great on battery either and it's got 1 debloated ROM and BING! ewwww Granted the ROM out for it removes Bing but still. Also the Charge sucks down battery faster than the TBolt in my experience. If you get the extended battery like mentioned it lasts a pretty long time. I got it and thought I'd return it because of the size but it's really not that bad. It's definitely worth it to have the speeds and the dev support on this device! Plus it's not a Samsung and it doesn't come preloaded with Bing!!!
sporty377 said:
I have the extended battery... It's really not that bad....when holding in hand u have a better grip...I'm running stock and and have 4G off cause my area don't have 4G yet but when at work I'm in 4G zone. I only use 4G when I'm downloading a big file anyway....I'm sure if we ever get gb the battery will get better...will I'm hopeing at lease..lol
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+ 1 I'm loving this extended battery, battery life was increased dramatically, and I barely notice it anymore..
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Battery shouldnt be a problem with moderate use. If your a heavy user just invest in an extra battery or two. or get the extended battery.

Amoled murders battery?

What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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Amoled does. From what ive beem read ing super amoled plus.is alot better. The darker the better. Slcd is.a.good option for battery mizers though.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Yes ive also read that the way super amoled plus works, is there is no backlight and individual pixels light up, so its better to have simple wallpapers with mostly black, would probably give you better battery life, as most of the screen will no be using any energy.
All android devices murder their batteries. It's nothing new get over it lol.
This device gets decent battery life considering it's the most powerful option out currently though.
The general masses do not understand how to set these phones up for optimal battery life. There are threads all over XDA on how to do this.
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Every app i use i set on black theme. Wallpaper black. Display all the way down unless IM out side or watching a movie. I get 12hrs plus using gtg's rom.
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I have no idea what you do with your phone or what . But I get more then enough battery with this phone, I do it all text talk surf web forums play and I make it home with enough battery to probably lend you some. Seriously we all know your not going to get iPhone battery life obviously the iPhone it just plain simple. But come on, this type of thread it's getting annoying there's a few already with help and tips on your issue search for them. Maybe you just got high hopes, or maybe it's not the phone it's you. BTW Amoled probably consume less battery but not enough for us power hungry users to see a different.
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I don't think is the screen alone itself but the dual-core running at 1.2Ghz might eat more battery than your old phone with an smaller battery
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What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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You might want to install CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats (BBS) so you can better diagnose where your battery issues are coming from. 8 hours seems very poor for this device. Use CPUSpy to see how much your device is running in deep sleep - with light usage I usually see around 80% deep sleep. You can use BBS to look for apps causing excessive wakelocks (BBS is available here on xda) to see if a particular app is causing the problem.
Unless you have a hardware problem, I don't think the display is your problem - the display on this device has a smaller percentage hit on battery use than my 3.2" LCD Aria.
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I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
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Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
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I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
seh6183 said:
I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
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Make sure to do the following to get the most accurate data:
Top off to 100% (to the point you get the full-charged notification)
Remove from charger
Reset timers in CPUspy
Put phone down and go to bed
seh6183 said:
I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
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I'm not sure why you say 5 hour screen on time with heavy usage is absurd? Are you thinking that isn't possible with this device?
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roadrash7 said:
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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+me, amazing battery life w/the SGS2
seh6183 said:
I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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You can still exchange with a new one under 14 days or 30 days. 6 hours with screen on is not absurd on this phone in 12 hours. I have been with screen on with 2:45 hrs and voice with 45 min in 1 day and 8hrs with still 15+ % battery juice left.
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IIRC, one of the review or comparison against iPhone4S benchmarked GS2 as 5 to 6 hours of internet browsing which means both screen on and using data. Wi-fi gives it a slightly longer battery life than cell data. Unfortunately, it didn't benchmark video playback time. iPhone4S spec says 8 hours of video. I hope GS2 is close to that. This is play video from local storage, not streaming. So, the data connection battery draw is out of picture. I managed to get 4+ hours of video playback with flight mode on with my old Captivate. Hopefully, GS2 will last longer, e.g. survive a coast to coast flight while still have some juice left for navigation.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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He's not lying. I have seen 5 hours of screen on time and still had a little juice left at the end of 16 hour days. And it wasn't a one time deal. Seen it several times, though I usually don't use my phone that heavily. Yesterday I barely used my phone at all and was only down to like 85% after 16 hours.

Thinking of bailing on the SGS2 for nexus - battery/ROM problems

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trying to troubleshoot S2 right now, if you want to help me go to my other thread:
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Been debating for a month or so whether i should buy the SGS2 with a contract for free, or import the Galaxy nexus and sell whatever phone i can make the most profit on to offset the price of the Nexus.
Well i finally decided that the SGS2 would be a better choice, and was also cheaper, so i bought it about a week ago.
I love the phone except for these two huge deal breakers:
the first is battery life when im on a AOSP rom.
Im on CM7 KANG from 11-29. Battery life is pretty awful. When im home its decent about 3% standby drain per hour. I was at school where the service isnt that great and this is what happened:
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I dont see how anyone is getting decent battery life from this ROM.
Personally, one of my favorite things about android is being able to run different kinds of roms, particularly CM and MIUI. I really feel that if thats what you like then this is the wrong phone for it.
I have no doubt that i wouldnt be having these issues with a nexus phone. So im starting to come to the conclusion that maybe i should sell it, and import the SGS2, or try to get the nexus S for cheap, and then wait until the price drops a bit.
Do whatever you feel is right for you.
It took me about a week to identify and tune my gs2. I wasn't getting more than 14 to 16 hours before. I'm getting 24+ now.
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rhost said:
It took me about a week to identify and tune my gs2. I wasn't getting more than 14 to 16 hours before. I'm getting 24+ now.
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what rom/setup are you using?
I'm getting fantastic battery life with Siyah and KJ4. Easily 20+.....
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I'm getting fantastic battery life with Siyah and KJ4. Easily 20+.....
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Should i try out that kernel with cm7?
i have no doubts that other roms will have good battery life, (the ones designed for i777) but i get awful life when using cm7 and other aosp roms. This is my biggest problem.
And I'm getting better battery today than the other day. I'm down to 75% after 7 hours. But this is with minimal use and full service, and connected to wifi.
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I get 20+ hours easily with MIUI. When I first got the phone I was getting about 12 hours. Took me a while to tune it.
21cdb said:
I get 20+ hours easily with MIUI. When I first got the phone I was getting about 12 hours. Took me a while to tune it.
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Please explain your "tuning"
Are you changing voltages? Apps? Breaking the battery in? Etc? This would help
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What the hell is Dogg Catcher...seems to be taking a lot of your battery away xD
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What the hell is Dogg Catcher...seems to be taking a lot of your battery away xD
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Podcast player. And 8% is negligible. Non-issue.
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Please explain your "tuning"
Are you changing voltages? Apps? Breaking the battery in? Etc? This would help
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No voltage changes. Removed widgets that were causing some battery strain, switched email from push to poll, prevented some stuff from auto starting, froze some system stuff with Titanium Backup. I tested the drain last night, went to bed with 100%, woke up 6 hours later with 99%.
As far as 'tuning' to stop apps from starting I give a huge +1 for autostarts! Can't remember who recommended it first on this forum but noticeably added to my battery. I have at least 150 apps on my phone and there was a good number set to start 'after boot'.
Not too often does one change make a difference you can feel. I can't really give a number as I've just set it up yesterday and usually go through a full charge with an extended battery, 9+ screen on hours in one day, kinda sad when I think about it. It'll take a few more days before I can really tell the difference it's making. But it 'seemed' like it added a full hour more of screen on time yesterday. It'll blow me away if that's true. Hope the numbers repeat.
As a note I tried stopping 'camera' from auto starting and it did a hard reboot of the phone. Guess that was it's way of saying don't touch.
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Similar to everyone else I had to play with my settings and apps. I would also recommend checking out the thread on known apps that are battery hogs. I'm using CM7 with the latest Kang build and the battery life is MUCH improved. Running siyah 2.3 kernal oc'd 200-1600 ondemand. Try turning down the screen brightness some or put it on auto if you haven't. Also, I may be wrong but I bet the battery does get conditioned after a few drain/charge cycles and improves.
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Similar to everyone else I had to play with my settings and apps. I would also recommend checking out the thread on known apps that are battery hogs. I'm using CM7 with the latest Kang build and the battery life is MUCH improved. Running siyah 2.3 kernal oc'd 200-1600 ondemand. Try turning down the screen brightness some or put it on auto if you haven't. Also, I may be wrong but I bet the battery does get conditioned after a few drain/charge cycles and improves.
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Im coming from a captivate with a similar steup, so ive got everything almost down to a science.
Brightness has been another gripe ive had with this device. Auto brightness is way too low, and is also unresponsive. Auto on both my phones side by side shows the flaws (IMO) of the SGS2. When its dark, both are the same, when i shine light on it, the captivate reacts accordingly. As a result, I keep the phone at half brightness.
Ive had battery problems with both phones when running AOSP roms. My captivate would last for 36-48hours with minimal use on a captivate based rom, and then 10-14 hours on CM.
15 hrs. mostly in standby with some light web surfing and constant txt messaging. running at 200mhz-1200mhz on conservative with entropy's DD 12/01/11 release battery is at 72%
Not to mention you cant possibly believe you are going to get a brand new phone that already has similar battery life or maybe a little worse to this phone and flash brand new roms on it and get better battery life. I dont believe the cards are going to fall in your favor. Although the Nexus is a nice phone and would be pretty sweet to own...if battery issues like this are your reason for jumping ship....it may be a long swim to shore.
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Not to mention you cant possibly believe you are going to get a brand new phone that already has similar battery life or maybe a little worse to this phone and flash brand new roms on it and get better battery life. I dont believe the cards are going to fall in your favor. Although the Nexus is a nice phone and would be pretty sweet to own...if battery issues like this are your reason for jumping ship....it may be a long swim to shore.
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Lol ^^ very well said
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Not to mention you cant possibly believe you are going to get a brand new phone that already has similar battery life or maybe a little worse to this phone and flash brand new roms on it and get better battery life. I dont believe the cards are going to fall in your favor. Although the Nexus is a nice phone and would be pretty sweet to own...if battery issues like this are your reason for jumping ship....it may be a long swim to shore.
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sorry i read this a few times. I dont get it lol.
I'm not sure if this will help u, but try check ur google maps's setting and sign out of google latitude. My gs2 has been draining battery so fast lately, n now it seems back to 17+ hrs average.
just get another battery or keep more chargers around

So far I love my new phone

okay well today I decided I wanted an upgrade, Im not eligible until Feb 1st (or a few days after) so I called tech support and was crying about how my upgrade is 2 weeks away and how i really want a new phone. so long story short, they directed me to my local verizon store after changing the date to today; an hour later home with the DNA.
and I am impressed.
I have the galaxy note 10.1 as my main tablet, and the Droid Dna is much snappier than that, and their specs are pretty much the same.
so as much as I "hate" htc, i bough the dna because i thought it looks cool, and im glad I did
and I dont hate HTC, im just one of those frustrated T-bolt users lol, and now my grandpa is rocking the t-bolt and loves it...if only he knew what android 4.0 was......
Nova launcher prime. That is all
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This phone is amazing! I just got mine as well.
time to start tinkering!
I love it
But the only issue I have is with wireless charging
It takes forever, and I have that nokia one, not sure of the official model number, but its the size of an apple mighty mouse and looks similar
So does anyone know why wireless charging takes so long?
And I do not have a case on it
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I love it
But the only issue I have is with wireless charging
It takes forever, and I have that nokia one, not sure of the official model number, but its the size of an apple mighty mouse and looks similar
So does anyone know why wireless charging takes so long?
And I do not have a case on it
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After using the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 for the past year+, the DNA just CREEPS when charging, both wired and wireless. It's really painful how long it takes to charge.
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After using the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 for the past year+, the DNA just CREEPS when charging, both wired and wireless. It's really painful how long it takes to charge.
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I came from an iphone and this phone charges really slow. But it also lasts me 15 hours average so Im cool with that haha.
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I can also agree that this phone charges slower than my Nexus but I notice no difference between wired and wireless charging.
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croppz said:
I came from an iphone and this phone charges really slow. But it also lasts me 15 hours average so Im cool with that haha.
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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Bad battery. No way you should only be getting 30 minutes of on screen time!
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How is your signal at school?
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Really?
It only lasts about 7 for me:/
And this is day 2, so I jay take it back and exchange for another dna, as this could be a faulty battery, or sidegrade to a s3
Now heres what my usage is;
Im a college student, so my phone is off charger by 730 am (from the night before) and comes to school until about 3 or so.
In just those 8 hours, with wifi off, gps off, brightness set to auto, and only like 30 mins of screen on time; its at like 30-35
And 3 isnt a good time to die cause I have the rest of the day I need it, so is it me using it wrong or maybe bad battery?
Cause im debati on going to verizon tomorrow to replace it with a s3 or a new dna
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That is horrible batteryife. Unless you have horrible coverage where you are or your school is made of lead you should be at like 70 percent, not 30
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While not a huge factor, dont use auto brightness. Uses an unnecessary amount of battery. Just set it to where you want and leave it. But I agree that is terrible battery life. Im getting 15 hours average out of mine.
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I've had my Droid DNA about 3 weeks and I'm in love with it myself. I must suggest everyone get a charging pad as well, it seems to make the battery last longer from it's charge!
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I've had my Droid DNA about 3 weeks and I'm in love with it myself. I must suggest everyone get a charging pad as well, it seems to make the battery last longer from it's charge!
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why would that possibly prolong the battery life?
my signal at my school is maximum bars , and 4g.
and okay, ill be heading over to verizon in a few minutes to see what they wanna do
because the dna should get at least 12 hours of my "low-average" usage
and okay, ill try to get a new DNA and if I do ill put the brightness somewhere in the middle instead of auto brightness.
thanks all!
Try this app: Deep Sleep Battery Saver. It has worked wonders on my DNA's battery life. It turns off apps and the radios for the WiFi and Mobile Data when the device's screen goes dark. At set intervals, it'll wake up the radios and download email, etc. You can also whitelist apps that you do not want the app to shut off, like an alarm clock app or an SMS app. You will still receive your phone calls. As of this writing, I have 94% battery 5 hours after I disconnected the phone from the charger. I have made a few calls and texts. I haven't used data since I am at work and am in front of a computer the whole day.
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my signal at my school is maximum bars , and 4g.
and okay, ill be heading over to verizon in a few minutes to see what they wanna do
because the dna should get at least 12 hours of my "low-average" usage
and okay, ill try to get a new DNA and if I do ill put the brightness somewhere in the middle instead of auto brightness.
thanks all!
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I agree with what everyone else said - you probably had a defective unit. I use my DNA much more than you do, with Auto-sync on, Background data on, Mobile Network always on, Brightness at around 40%. In my daily commute, I total around an hour of time spent underground in a subway station with no signal. Given all this, with ~3-4 hours of screen-on time, my phone lasts me from 7:45 in the morning all the way through until ~12 midnight with usually at least 20% battery life left. I don't know if it means anything, but I charged my phone fully before turning it on for the first time (I didn't even let the Verizon store rep turn it on to activate it for me - I told him to not even open the box). If you're interested, this is what I did:
1. Made sure the phone was not turned on at any point before I took it out of the box.
2. Took the phone out of the box without turning it on and plugged it in.
3. Waited for the light to turn green, then unplugged it and let it sit for a few minutes.
4. Re-plugged the phone (the light would be orange again), and waited for it to turn green.
5. Repeated the unplugging and replugging process until the light turned green almost immediately upon plugging in.
6. Turned the phone on and did the activation and all that fun stuff.
7. Used the phone normally, and did not charge it until the battery was fully depleted (turned off by itself because battery was too low).
8. Fully charged the phone until it was full again (without turning it on).
9. Repeated the unplugging and replugging process again until the light turned green almost immediately upon plugging in.
10. Turned it on and started using it normally from that point on.
I'm a bit OCD with my phone battery But hey, it seems to have worked out well for me so I'm happy!
Juicedefender is the best free battery saver I have tried.. Just having it on the balanced pre-set made a difference.. After suffering through the Tbolt, Droid razr, and Gnex, I'm pretty happy with the battery
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Well I unfortunately went to the dark side, no not the company with a piece of fruit for a logo...samsung
And I wanted the dna but the lady told me that the battery life is normal for that phone cause of the big screen with 1080p and a quad core processor. I tried to disagree a little, but then she told me she has had the s3 since its launch and she hasnt had an issue yet. So I played with her phone, cause demo units are almost always bogged down. And I liked it.
So as of now, im off the htc bandwagon....but hopefully ill be back in about 8 months when my next line is available for upgrade

[Q] Battery Life Expectancy?

I really hate to be that guy asking stupid battery questions, because we all know that battery stamina is subjective, but this is really hard for me to understand.
I am coming from the Note 3. My general weekday use with the Note 3 would get me 14-15 hours off the charger with 50% left by quitting time. I bluetooth stream music/podcasts for 8-9 hours a day. Pandora for maybe a couple hours on some days and average screen on time of 1.5 hours. I never had to do anything special in regards to battery life. Auto brightness and just regular use and it always lasted the day easy.
Today was my 2nd day with the HTC One Max and I managed to get just over 10 hours off the charger before it was completely depleted and shut off and it died in the middle of a work shift. Normal use for me, auto brightness, maybe 1-1.5 hours screen on time (estimation). Very depressing.
Battery use in settings looked pretty normal to me although I'm not seeing a place for actual screen on time? But my question is this, is this the kind of battery life you guys are seeing? Will it get better after a couple cycles? Based on the reviews I had read before purchasing the One Max, it was stated that the Max battery out lasted the Note 3 battery in testing so I wasn't even the least bit worried about it when making my purchase.
Not sure what my issue is but I won't be able to keep this device if I can't figure this out.
GrandMasterB said:
I really hate to be that guy asking stupid battery questions, because we all know that battery stamina is subjective, but this is really hard for me to understand.
I am coming from the Note 3. My general weekday use with the Note 3 would get me 14-15 hours off the charger with 50% left by quitting time. I bluetooth stream music/podcasts for 8-9 hours a day. Pandora for maybe a couple hours on some days and average screen on time of 1.5 hours. I never had to do anything special in regards to battery life. Auto brightness and just regular use and it always lasted the day easy.
Today was my 2nd day with the HTC One Max and I managed to get just over 10 hours off the charger before it was completely depleted and shut off and it died in the middle of a work shift. Normal use for me, auto brightness, maybe 1-1.5 hours screen on time (estimation) Very depressing.
Battery use looked pretty normal to me although I'm not seeing a place for actual screen on time? But my question is this, is this the kind of battery life you guys are seeing? Will it get better after a couple cycles? Based on the reviews I had read before purchasing it was stated that the Max battery out lasted the Note 3 battery in testing so I wasn't even the least bit worried about it.
Not sure what my issue is but I won't be able to keep this device if I can't figure this out.
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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pretty much the same for me too...you must have a rogue app or process sucking your battery
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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pretty much the same for me too...you must have a rogue app or process sucking your battery
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I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
yeah, I am running viper max,and its fantastic!:good:
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I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
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Stock rom... Rooted after s-off...using exposed framework for all of the tweaks I like.
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Stock rom... Rooted after s-off...using exposed framework for all of the tweaks I like.
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My phone on Stock Everything S-Off last a whole day with usually 50% left when I get home.
GrandMasterB said:
I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
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You don't need a custom ROM, this phone is perfect out of the box. Check with better battery stats what exactly is causing the issue. Could be Google play services.
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You don't need a custom ROM, this phone is perfect out of the box. Check with better battery stats what exactly is causing the issue. Could be Google play services.
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This is the kind of usage I am seeing. Very light usage today, maybe an hour of bluetooth music and 0 phone calls, several texts (12-15). Not sure what this means in the overall picture. I also installed BBS but not sure what I am looking for, I just know my stamina is weak sauce. :crying: I'm not sure I understand why Android system is using 75% of my battery and only has 4 minutes CPU, 24 minutes keep awake and 4mb data sent.
This is what I'm getting. I have the power flip case, but it only adds 1/3rd more battery..
*note the screen on time*
You must have an issue with something keeping your phone awake.
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Could you post your partial wake locks from better battery stats..
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Something like this would help to debug...
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Something like this would help to debug...
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Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
GrandMasterB said:
Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
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Oh yeah you surely need it.. Do also dump all the data to text file using the share option..
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There is definitely something wrong there. based on your shot, it looks like a verizon phone that doesnt have the power save.
Mines an international version my girlfriend got for me, Not rooted, S-On, completely stock out of the box, and this is my stats, mines based on moderate to heavy usage: (Note: the battery power saver turns on at 14% by itself) And my battery charges in 2 hours to 100%.
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Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
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I have recently started listening to music over the Bluetooth and remembered this thread. were you able to able to find the issue?
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I have recently started listening to music over the Bluetooth and remembered this thread. were you able to able to find the issue?
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I haven't been able to figure it out yet. Most days its fine. Like Friday I listened to 4 hours straight of Pandora just because I wanted to see what would happen. Like usually I would stop it if I had to run errands or when I talk to people but I let it go for 4 solid hours. After bluetooth streaming 4 hours of Pandora and about 2 hours saved podcasts and 9:51 off the charger I still had 63% battery left. Thats really great results IMO. If I can get through and entire workday with 50% battery left I am thrilled. I think it was 1:13 screen on time or close. Not a lot of screen on time but that is a lot of Pandora use and that usually hits my battery the hardest.
But Tuesday earlier in the week I didn't listen to Pandora/Slacker at all, a little less than 2 hours bluetooth podcast,less than 2 hours screen on time and hit 38% by quitting time (about 10 hours off the charger). Every now and then there is a day like that where the battery just disappears even with super light use. I have GSAM installed and am trying to keep an eye on use but I always forget and plug it in when I get home (on days like Tuesday) or I plug it into the PC at some point to transfer files or photos and that reset the stats.
I tried that Snapdragon battery Guru and was really excited. The first day after it finished "learning" my routine I got through the whole day with 77% left but all day long I would stop getting texts and Gmails and the data connection would no longer work if I tried to open Facebook or Chrome. I would check status and mobile data is on, connected to the network, good signal but I couldn't get any data to work until I toggled airplane mode or rebooted the phone. SO I finally got frustrated with it, reset defaults and uninstalled it.
One thing I do notice is that I usually use 10-12% of my battery to wifi while I'm at work and the only wifi I use is when I am at home. If I turn the wifi off while I am at work I forget to turn it back on when I get home and now that I no longer have unlimited data that is a pretty big problem. I need to set an alarm or something that reminds me to turn it on/off everyday I guess.

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