[Q] Moving From Sprint, Some Questions About Unlocked 32GB One - T-Mobile HTC One (M7)

Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:

I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.

KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
Nippero said:
I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.
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Wifi calling is a software thing not hardware, you can flash parts of a tmobile rom to get it if you really want it on an unlocked/dev edition

CrappyAlloy said:
I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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daniel2744 said:
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.

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I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.
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oh okay thanks for letting me know. i will keep this in mind or next year when i get a new phone or if i brink my tmobile htc one then i will need a replacement lol. i live in Corona. i get lte out here and really great hspa+. i also go to CPP actually lol. tmobile has impressed me too. 30 bucks a month is great. i'm assume you have the prepaid plan? i'm on postpaid but only pay 63 bucks a month for unlimited everything. i need my data lol

I have the developer edtion and switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Best thing I did speeds are 10 x faster. I'm in a reframed area. If you're in a reframed area definitely go for it.
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KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I would get the T-Mobile version. There are only a few TMO apps, and having the AWS available is a good thing, especially when traveling. TMO will unlock your phone for you, so unless you are leaving for Europe within 40 days, it should not be a problem. Actually, I've read posts from folks who got their unlock code immediately, provided they paid for the entire phone.

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Return my Note if i already "exchanged" once?

Before anyone RIPS me read and relate to me lol.
I have a question. I am still in my 30 day return window for my Note but i already exchanged once my white for a black. "GF talked me into the white".
I paid the outright price of $650, $688 with tax, wanted to save my upgrade for future devices. I was going to get the international model but the ATT guys or drones whatever you wanna call them. Were telling me that my area "PA" was getting LTE in June. The lines were already almost in blah blah blah. So i figured what the hey id like to try LTE out so i went with the ATT version instead of getting the international Exynos processor.
But with the early summer LTE area release yesterday, PA was not on the list . So basically its pointless at the moment for me to have the LTE version when i could have gotten the international for basically cheaper on Amazon being no tax. I would have no problem keeping the ATT version if i paid $300. But for what i paid it makes absolute sense to get the international, No? I have no problem with HSPA+ speeds and am only on a 3GB Data plan.
Thanks guys.
I figured id ask you guys being asking anybody anything at ATT is like pulling teeth. Or if you guys seen any upsides on keeping my ATT Note instead of getting the international. For the most part i love it aside from some lag here and there.
I would suggest going with the international since it has a wider variety of dev support and since you dont have LTE in your area its pointless having to spend $688 for a phone you cant use to its fullest IMO.
To answer your question, yes, if you are in your 30 days you can return for any reason. It doesn't matter that you exchanged for color.
Where in Pa are you. I live in York (near Harrisburg) and I am looking for a Note. PM me.
Plus you'll get ICS much sooner if that's important to you.
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ICS isn't a deal breaker for me like most. I have it on my Transformer Prime and its meh. I just want a smooth running multi tasking speed experience lol.
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Everywhere I have been in Lancaster County has 4G.
aj_vogtman said:
Everywhere I have been in Lancaster County has 4G.
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4G or HSPA plus? Because my phone does say 4g but its hspa plus.
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return that crap, they lied to you anyway

AT&T or Int'l HOX+?

So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
hasoon2000 said:
So I MAY get the HOX+ when the funds are available. I'm a broke ass college student and I am really interested in getting the phone to help out more around here. However, I'm deciding on what to get. I'm on T-Mobile USA and they are almost done refarming their network in the Chicago market so I can get HSPA+ "4G" on it. T-Mobile should also be rolling out LTE next year as well.
Int'l model - Logically, much more development since it is in multiple countries
AT&T model - Warranty will be easier to do if anything happens and it'll have LTE.
Steer me to the right direction. Please and Thank you.
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I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
hardstuffmuc said:
I don't know how it goes in the US but in Germany LTE is not widely available yet, and also the costs are much higher than with 3G.
I live in the city and would have LTE available here at home and when out and about, but it would be 27€ more per month for 24 month. So, my usage profile would just not make sense. I travel a lot on the high spped train ICE and 98% of the time there is only 2G available anyways, with 3G only in stations along the track when it stops. 3G is more than sufficient when I am out around town.
So, for me LTE is a waste of money (27€ x24month contract=648€ on top of my regular contract)
If the costs are closer to a regular 3G contract in the US I would go with LTE of course, just to have the latest!
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Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
Knuxr said:
I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I really wanna try LTE. T-Mobile has a great network so I know LTE will be a killer!
I guess I must've missed that lol. Didn't know they were pitching in for the AT&T model.
AndroHero said:
You should get the AT&T one. That would be the best for development in general. Especially for you US boys
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Int'l models are usually more popular since it is widely available. That's why I hope the dev would be good.
killman2659 said:
I am getting the AT&T HOX+ over the weekend. The only difference between the two is LTE, but you have TMobile. If warranty is a big deal for you, get the AT&T.
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Yeah. I was thinking about it. May just get the AT&T model when prices drop and I get more cash. I'm still far away from my goal in buying it lol
Knuxr said:
I originally was going to go with the Nexus 4 and just had it delivered but I ended up going with the One X+ (AT&T). I was the first to say LTE wasn't needed, but after a few days with the One X+, I don't know if I could go back. It is just so stupid fast, if it is in your area, I would strongly consider the AT&T version just for that...
Plus if I remember right a few forum members pitched in to get Lloir a AT&T One X+ for deving, so there should be some stuff on the way for it.
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I got shut out of the N4 on Google's release day. But I had an S3 (sold it) and have LTE in my area so I picked up the One X+.
I am SO glad I did. It is one awesome device. Super fast and smoother than the S3. Better screen, camera, etc.
It made me realize that once you have access to LTE it makes no sense to revert back to hspa+. Take advantage of the technology as we are paying for the monthly service.
If I was not located in a AT&T LTE area, I would still pull the trigger because they are launching new markets like crazy. I have had LTE for months and they never announced it was available. They light up markets for testing sometimes months before they make it official and users.
Hope this helps.
The AT&T version seems to be the best bet! LTE is widespread
Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
hasoon2000 said:
Even if I got either HOX+, I will be stuck on 2G until T-Mobile changes part of their network.
LTE isn't out yet for T-Mobile so I can't mention on the price structure for it.
What I am really worrying about it warranty. If it's a manufacturer defect, I can send it to HTC in Texas to get it repaired. I'm pushing towards the AT&T model since it is also a bit cheaper by ~$40
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I'm considering the same thing too. It looks T-mobile will deploy the LTE on AWS band same as AT&T, so this phone is more "future-proof" than Nexus 4. How do I get it carrier unlocked if i get one from AT&T store though?
Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
surflamj said:
Those of us state side need a DEV that has our device. If someone wants to start a "fund raiser" thread to get you an AT&T HOX+ you can count me in for $50.
Edit: I also have a line that is early upgrade eligible so that would be $100 off the device if that helps. If we can get the funds up I have a way I can get this too you Hasoon2000. Just PM me.
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I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
hasoon2000 said:
I'd hate to burst your bubble. I'm not really a ROM dev. I know some basics. If you guys want me to learn and have it as a device to practice on, I wouldn't mind. However, do not expect quick results.
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Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
AndroHero said:
Last time I checked. XDA didn't give out recognised dev titles to people who only knew the basics I think your being a tad modest lol
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Haha. Remember, we all have our own specialties. I'd love to learn and help you guys out. I haven't posted in the Amaze forums for a few days now. I live here instead lol
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hasoon2000 said:
Thanks everyone!
Now, the issue is the money.
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-xplus-carbon-black.html
Price of phone w/o contract w/ tax included = $603.61 (549.99 * 9.75%)
PayPal balance = $15.88
Amount needed = $587.73
This is going to take some time... lol
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Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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olorolo said:
Honestly if you were to start a donate post many would help you get one for your anti brick noob toolkit that has saved many from bricking their devices. You have contributed greatly to the android community and well deserving of the help, I myself even though not a noob have used it in the past for the convenience of it alone.
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It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
hasoon2000 said:
It would be selfish if I made that type of thread. If you guys believe in it, you guys can do it for me. I'll just wait to save up money or when the price drops.
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I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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droidiac13 said:
I agree with this. The person looking for the device should NEVER start the asking. Nothing but trouble. Seen it before.
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I completely agree. That's why I said if people would want to make a thread for me, then I'm fine with it. However, I won't ask people to give me money.

[Q] AT&T or T-Mobile for the One?

Which carrier should I choose if I want to get the most out of the One, using two lines, taking into question data limits and speeds, and monthly billing of course. My fiance wants to get phones for the two of us and her contract will be up in March with AT&T, should she stay on AT&T and add my onto a shared plan or should we just take our business to T-Mobile?
Ask people you know in your area if they have tmobile and how is it.
Depends if your having any issues with ATT. If not then stay.
Because tmobile customer support <
expertzero1 said:
Ask people you know in your area if they have tmobile and how is it.
Depends if your having any issues with ATT. If not then stay.
Because tmobile customer support <
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I'm in Buffalo, New York, I just moved here so I don't know too many people yet, my biggest eyebrow raiser is that T-Mobile has unlimited data for $160~ and AT&T only has a shared plan with 4GB for $140~. I'm just wondering about the speeds between the two, even then, it can't be thaaat bad can it?cI'm really looking into T-Mobile, but if the service is ****...no dice.
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I'm in Buffalo, New York, I just moved here so I don't know too many people yet, my biggest eyebrow raiser is that T-Mobile has unlimited data for $160~ and AT&T only has a shared plan with 4GB for $140~. I'm just wondering about the speeds between the two, even then, it can't be thaaat bad can it?cI'm really looking into T-Mobile, but if the service is ****...no dice.
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If you can afford it, stay with att if your getting good signal and speeds.
If you want you can do tmobile prepaid for 30 bucks a month as another option, as a trial
100 minutes, texts unlimited i think, and 5 gb of data for 30 bucks.
expertzero1 said:
If you can afford it, stay with att if your getting good signal and speeds.
If you want you can do tmobile prepaid for 30 bucks a month as another option, as a trial
100 minutes, texts unlimited i think, and 5 gb of data for 30 bucks.
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It seems like AT&T has way better 4G LTE coverage than T-Mobile in the area, so I think we'll just share 4GB and hope for the best, if anything we can upgrade if we reallly need to, and we'll be on Wi-Fi a lot of the time I'm sure anyways, thanks for the replies
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It seems like AT&T has way better 4G LTE coverage than T-Mobile in the area, so I think we'll just share 4GB and hope for the best, if anything we can upgrade if we reallly need to, and we'll be on Wi-Fi a lot of the time I'm sure anyways, thanks for the replies
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While your at it, 10 gigs for 180 lol!!
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While your at it, 10 gigs for 180 lol!!
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LOL, that's a little too much for our taste, she pays $75~ on AT&T for her non-Smartphone so she wants it to be about the same if not less for each line when we upgrade.
I for one can vouch that AT&T has superior service compared to T-Mobile. T-Mobile has bad coverage even with 3G. My girlfriend uses T-Mobile and she doesn't get LTE anywhere around here, and a unreasonable (about 10%, and that's in a suburban area, not country) amount of the time she can't send texts because of bad reception. Lots of dropped calls as well from her compared to extremely few compared to my friends who have AT&T.
T mobile will have its 4g lte network rolled out by the end of the year... their pre paid plans are the best...can't beat $70 a month unlimited everything!!!
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I tried T-Mobile with my N4. Their network is pretty good if you spend almost all of your time in a decent sized urban area. But if you travel on the road at all or you live in an AT&T LTE coverage area, it isn't even remotely close in coverage - AT&T is worth the extra money. Once you go outside a certain distance from a city, it's as if T-Mobile never existed. They're cheap for a reason!
oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto
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oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto
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That blows. Might be worth getting the unlocked version and forgoing LTE................. :-\
also from what i heard HTC is giving away free 2 year 25GB dropbox accounts with the HTC ONE but AT&T has opted out once again so if you get the ATT version you wont get that feature either.....https://www.dropbox.com/help/249/en
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oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto
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Don't forget we are on XDA and a custom ROM will fix this issue
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djq said:
also from what i heard HTC is giving away free 2 year 25GB dropbox accounts with the HTC ONE but AT&T has opted out once again so if you get the ATT version you wont get that feature either.....https://www.dropbox.com/help/249/en
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Read above
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You can't ask people who are in different parts of the world which carrier to pick.. that all depends on; Where you live, your budget, and how much of data/talk you use.
AT&T works great in some places where T-Mobile don't. If you get great coverage with ATT far as data and talk then i suggest staying with ATT
T-Mobile won't have LTE till later this year, and when they do it will be in a small amount of cities.. most likely major cities first.. LTE > HSPA+
AT&T has the 2nd largest LTE coverage and still improving it.
I suggest sticking with AT&T if you get great coverage and haven't had any problems. If its not broken don't fix it.
If you want a budget choice you can always get Straight Talk. you'll have the choice between which network you want to use under them
Lol where all you live that's you're saying T-Mobile has no coverage? I live in Los Angeles and I get reception everywhere I go. I even get reception high up in the mountains at big bear. Only place I don't get great reception is when I'm at my job, which is a warehouse with like 2 feet of concrete walls and steel everywhere. I get better reception than anyone on att that I know. Don't get me started with sprint. My coworker has the evo lte and he never sees lte service.
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When T-Mobile suppose to drop this beast
Hey AT&T and T-Mobile Americans... do you guys know if it might be possible to change the LTE frequencies of the One?
I'm going to get the European version, but I might spend 1-2 semesters studying in the US at some point in the future, where I will probably still have the One.
So it would be pretty sweet if I could flash another radio (or even do something easier) and use LTE in America as well.
WA_Bob said:
That blows. Might be worth getting the unlocked version and forgoing LTE................. :-\
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Maybe the t-mobile one will have LTE on band 4 and 17, thier galaxy s3 LTE just passed through FFC and it has both band 4 and band 17... And if you root and flash custom rom wouldnt that take away the restrictions?
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When T-Mobile suppose to drop this beast
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Expected to fall between the weeks of the 15th and the 22nd. Assuming from HTC terms and conditions regarding their 100 cash back that I read from their site, to be able to qualify for the cash back, the device must be purchased before the 31st of march.
But this is just my assumptions. And I hope I'm right because I can't wait any longer!
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I just took a look at Verizon s5 forum and. ..

I am glad I switched over even though the 4G service isn't great where I live, I can sacrifice that for being able to customize MY phone/tablet/computer/anything any day. ...
If any one sees or hears anything about root/recovery for the other service providers, let them know. I know I would greatly appreciate any information to get my phone working the way I intend it to.
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I am glad I switched over even though the 4G service isn't great where I live, I can sacrifice that for being able to customize MY phone/tablet/computer/anything any day. ...
If any one sees or hears anything about root/recovery for the other service providers, let them know. I know I would greatly appreciate any information to get my phone working the way I intend it to.
Thanks.
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I'm with you. I had five lines with Verizon, all with unlimited data that I only paid 9.99 a month for because I got in on some discount; I switched them all to T-Mobile. It was a tough decision at first, but I had such a terrible time with my note 3 on Verizon, I just couldn't do it again.
Admittedly, the service isn't better, but it is good enough and now I can actually do things with my phone.
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So true! I just left Verizon yesterday and signed up for TMobile! SO happy so far. I just feel good
I left Verizon for TMO 5 1/2 months ago, not long after the Note 3 came out. I had a Note 2, and my upgrade date was 4 months away. I was 20 months into my contract, and they used to do upgrades at 18 months. I was with Verizon for years, ever since they first came around. I called customer service to see if I could get my date moved and get a Note 3. The rep told me I qualified for something called Pre-Edge, so if I signed up for Edge, I could get a new phone that day. He gave me his name in case there were issues and made notes on my account. I went to the store, and no one had ever heard of Pre-Edge, nor did they see any notes on my account. When I called CS and asked for him, I was told he'd call back. I never got a call and had to leave the store because they were closing. I called back multiple times over the next 2 days and no one knew what Pre-Edge was or who I was talking about. Needless to say, I was angry. The same day, I went to T-Mobile and switched. I still have no idea what happened with that guy or what he was talking about.
I just signed up with T-Mobile yesterday and got the S5. I have been very interested in them the last couple of months. I have tried on them on pre-paid and its good enough. Much better with an actual T-Mobile branded phone. I am so disgusted with AT&T's BS on locking bootloaders and everything else that goes with that. AT&T is good for those who travel. I do not travel and so far I'd give T-Mobile about an 8/10.
Things I've noticed so far:
Generally weaker signal versus AT&T (most likely due to the high bands) Still works though.
HSPA+ is very fast, but when you hit -105dbm or greater it starts to go.
LTE is not as fast as I thought, but still very good.
Call quality is SO much better than AT&T.
LTE on Band 4 is pretty weak overall, but still usable.
13 more days to see if they work for me.
I hear ya OP. I have been watching here and the ATT forums. I am feeling really sorry for the guys over there right now. I am almost betting they will be lucky to get safestrap working and that for me personally is NOT enough. It feels like a ghost town. Since I have had my S1,S2, S3, and S4 there almost always have been a ROM or more on the first day I owned the devices (usually within a few days to a month of release).
I just called T-Mobile about switching my 4 lines from ATT over to T-Mobile. Checking prices and plans. Looks like I could save some money per month. Soecially if I just bring a few of my devices onto Tmobile (My daughters S3 and Wife's S4. I would pass her S4 to my son and get her the S5 while I get the S5 as well.
No guarantee yet that I will be over here though. Just weighing out my options. I am waiting for the 32Gb version if and when...
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...yeah, Verizon user here
I hate being locked down by Verizon. I have a T-mobile sim that I used to test T-Mobile(prepaid) in my Verizon Note 3. T-Mobile LTE is fast, but coverage is pretty sub-par compared to Verizon. When my contract is up in July I am probably going to sacrifice coverage for freedom, I mean come on still no KitKat, Verizon sucks.
I don't know about Verizon but I just left at&t for T-Mobile this past Tuesday and couldn't be happier. Their LTE is averaging about 30MB down where I live, work, and all points in between. With at&t I was averaging about 3 or 4MB on LTE at home. I'm loving this S5 but I think I'm loving T-Mobile even more. I checked the at&t forums and it is really quite over there.
TL;DR Recent family Sprint convert and so far we couldn't be happier with the S5 and TM!
I just switched my whole family (me, wife and two kids) over to TM from Sprint... we'd actually been happy with Sprint for about 6 years, weird as that may sound, but they were now trying to force us to change plans and not give us any deals on upgrades and basically it was going to cost more to stay with them monthly and we wouldn't be able to get reasonably cheap upgrades like before... for the past few years, because my kids' phones were bought almost exactly a month after mine and my wife's, we'd go in once a year, swap our phones to the kids and me and the wife would get new ones... well, they said no dice to this now. Sure, we give up unlimited data (sort of- TM is technically "unlimited" if you don't count throttling) but as it happens, that's a total worth it tradeoff.
After looking at all the options, I could have gotten away a little cheaper with Verizon (surprisingly!), and AT&T wasn't going to be much different than Verizon, but TM made it a deal we couldn't refuse: pay the Sprint ETF's, everyone got S5's financed, and we actually walked out of the store with the phones, Otter Boxes for three of them (I keep my phones "naked") and we actually had a $16 CREDIT on our first bill Yep, no money out-of-pocket whatsoever!
So far, we're loving it... had a minor snafu getting one phone switched over, but that was fixed quick and easy... the S5 itself is of course fantastic, which is no surprise... but so far, for the first time ever we actually get GREAT cell reception in our house even without IP calling (which we do use though), and it's 4G no less! (of course we're on wi-fi to save data, but still, we could barely get a Sprint signal before let alone a strong 4G signal like now). I also love that we get Hotspot for no extra charge, unlike Sprint... call quality thus far has been fine, though we frankly only use about 20 minutes a month COMBINED talk time so it's really not important anyway... coverage seems no different than Sprint so far overall... 4G speeds have been very good, about on-par with Sprint, maybe a hair better even. We only got the 1Gb plan because in looking at the past year with Sprint, only my son and I have ever gone over that line, twice each, and only once was more than a hundred Mb over... so 1Gb should be fine 99% of the time... we'll take the throttling after that if need be but no overage concerns is sweet.
And, of course, I rooted all four phones (screw the warranty, JUMP includes the handset insurance anyway and even though that costs something it makes the warranty a moot point to me) and I wouldn't give up that freedom for anything, so Verizon was a non-starter anyway (which is a shame really because we have FiOS and Verizon home phone and it would have been nice to have one provider for it all)... gotta have my root for Greenify and the mod to make the SD card writable!
Yeah, absolutely nothing to complain about at this point. I suppose things could go south at some point... until I see the ETFs paid off and the first bill to make sure nothing got screwed up I'm a little concerned... but assuming no surprises with either of those things I think this has been the best decision we've ever made WRT cell service (we had previously been on Verizon years ago, and AT&T before that, so we have some experience with all of them).
Verizon has never been a terribly bad deal for big families, but they hate single people with a vengeance
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So true! I just left Verizon yesterday and signed up for TMobile! SO happy so far. I just feel good
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So did I! But I made sure to get an iPhone 5s from Verizon the day before so that I could sell it and get reimbursed from T-Mo for breaking the 1 day old contract. :laugh: Also sold my S4 and bought a junk phone to use as my trade in to T-Mo. Now the money I made off the iPhone and the S4 will pay for the T-Mo S5. So got the S5 for next to nothing.
I am on ATT - but starting with my NOTE 3 and now my S5 - I don't buy ATT PHONES. I buy TMOBILE PHONES and use them on the ATT Network. They work beautifully well.
I actually signed up for TMobile for about 2 days - but I was so dissapointed with the speeds I got - compared to ATT they were horribly slow - ATT gives me phenomenal speeds around town and inside my house. The final straw was that I found the only way I could make calls from inside my house is if I used WIFI CALLING. I started thinking the reason that TMOBILE Came up with WIFI CALLING was because so many people had trouble getting signals in their house. I don't know if that is why they did it, but It sure seemed that way to me.
Anyway - I have never been happier - I get the best of both worlds - an ulocked device I can use - and a network that provides lightening fast speeds..
it works for me - and I hope whatever you guys are doing works for you as well...
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I am on ATT - but starting with my NOTE 3 and now my S5 - I don't buy ATT PHONES. I buy TMOBILE PHONES and use them on the ATT Network. They work beautifully well.
I actually signed up for TMobile for about 2 days - but I was so dissapointed with the speeds I got - compared to ATT they were horribly slow - ATT gives me phenomenal speeds around town and inside my house. The final straw was that I found the only way I could make calls from inside my house is if I used WIFI CALLING. I started thinking the reason that TMOBILE Came up with WIFI CALLING was because so many people had trouble getting signals in their house. I don't know if that is why they did it, but It sure seemed that way to me.
Anyway - I have never been happier - I get the best of both worlds - an ulocked device I can use - and a network that provides lightening fast speeds..
it works for me - and I hope whatever you guys are doing works for you as well...
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I do the same. Unlocked T-Mobile phone on ATT.
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So did I! But I made sure to get an iPhone 5s from Verizon the day before so that I could sell it and get reimbursed from T-Mo for breaking the 1 day old contract. :laugh: Also sold my S4 and bought a junk phone to use as my trade in to T-Mo. Now the money I made off the iPhone and teh S4 will pay for the T-Mo S5. So got the S5 for next to nothing.
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haha tha'ts messed up but a good idea.
This actually is the first time I had to buy a TMo version to use on ATT due to the locked BL in nature...If you can afford it, then its the best way to go in regards to the S5.
Guess I'm lucky, T-Mobile is awesome in my area. Slightly less coverage than AT&T, but the data connection is very stable and consistent.
Just took a look over there finding bounty thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051
I donated 20.00 to the cause , If anyone has extra $ they can throw their way please do.
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Just took a look over there finding bounty thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728051
I donated 20.00 to the cause , If anyone has extra $ they can throw their way please do.
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Here was my post over there cause I donated too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52145012&postcount=60 I have Verizon and T-Mobile so I grabbed the M8 on Verizon and the S5 on T-mobile. Best of both worlds, although the M8 is waaaay snappier in pretty much every task. I wish Samsung would slim this damn TouchWiz down. Look at your available ram and tell me that this baby don't NEED 3gb of ram like the Note 3. WoW! Anyways, the more devs we all have the better if you think about it. Look how many roms and mods get ported over from different carrier variants. Yes, I am a crack flasher for sure. Glad to see you donate too though. :good:
I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile the week before the S5 came out, I was paying $125 for a single phone on Verizon with 4GB data. Now on T-Mobile I get the same 4G coverage (in come cases better) as I did with Verizon, yet my girlfriend joined my account and together we get 3GB high speed data per month each, and its $100/month plus paying for the phones per month, I got the S5, she got the Note 3. Verizon is too expensive and controlling. I am very happy switching to T-Mobile.
Those who got the TMO S5, can you comment on performance? One guy on here feels it is not optimized for AT&T. He said it can be stubborn and prefer H+ in LTE areas.

What should be my next phone?

I'm sorry to have to ask this. I REALLY want to stick with my Note 2. But, unfortunately, there is no lollipop ROM where everything I need just works, and there is no kitkat rom that is both stable and debloated. I keep going back and forth from rom to rom to rom, but can't find one that I'm happy with for the long term.
I'd like my next phone to be unlockable, or at the very least rootable. And, I don't want to spend the insane amount of money on a dev version. So, any suggestions?
Same boat. I've been running Wilson's LP on my NOTE2 and probably still have to do a hard reboot at least once a day. Even the DEV solution isn't much for the newer phones because the development is driven by such a small audience the communities will never be as robust as unlocked bootloader phones. Seriously considering jumping ship to T-Mo but it is SO much more expensive compared to having 10 lines in a corporate plan and shared data. A T-Mo coverage is awful at my house.
Think I'm just going to ride the non-upgrade wave until I can't stand my Note2 anymore - maybe something will be different in the market 12 months from now.
X3 on that, I am not sure what to get if I were to do a VZW upgrade as well. I would love to be able to go with a GSM carrier, but VZW has the best service in my area as well.
Anything with an unlocked boot loader from HTC, Moto, or other brands?
I'm in the same boat as well. I try every lollipop rom out there but I just keep reverting back to Jedix20 since it's the most stable rom I've used.
I'm looking at the blackberry priv. But I'm waiting till Verizon to get them unless I get the att version since I have straight talk now.
I was thinking, since I am stuck with VZW, a Nexus?
I've been wanting to upgrade for a while now, really considering the nexus or LG's V10 with their 2560x1440 screens, but the note 3's a big draw too..... There's (apparently) no verizon phone that's rootable/romable AND has a 2560x1440 5.3"++ screen, micro SD slot, and removable battery? (quad/hex/octo core, 3++GB ram, 32GB++ internal, ideally, too!)
Finally giving up my Note 2 as well and going with this http://www.amazon.com/Honor-5X-Meta...=UTF8&qid=1454231963&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+5x
Very inexpensive, $199, for what you get. It should arrive Monday and they've already released the kernel to xda for rom development. Can't wait. This Note 2 has been a beast since I picked it up on release day. I don't think it ever really been off for an extended period of time since then. Love this phone. Now my 3 year old can love it, lol.
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That Honor looks like a nice phone.
You can even put in an external SD is a bonus, wonder how the battery life is?
I see it is dual sim, does it actually work on Verizon, if it does it would be the first one that ever did?
Keep us updated, I would love to have dual sim phone.
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That Honor looks like a nice phone.
You can even put in an external SD is a bonus, wonder how the battery life is?
I see it is dual sim, does it actually work on Verizon, if it does it would be the first one that ever did?
Keep us updated, I would love to have dual sim phone.
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I don't believe it will work on big red. I dropped big red a couple of months back. We were still grandfathered with our unlimited data and they were going to charge us $20 more a month per line. That would have put us over $400. That ain't happening. Switched us all to StraightTalk and pay $150 a month now. Since you cam use Verizon phonesvon StraightTalk now it made it easy. Bought this honor 5x since I'm not held down by red anymore and can use different sim cards like the rest of the world. You can put 2 sims in it and an SD card at the same time. I've heard that's pretty rare to have that capability. Love the phone so far, but I've only had it for about 6 hrs now.
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I don't believe it will work on big red. I dropped big red a couple of months back. We were still grandfathered with our unlimited data and they were going to charge us $20 more a month per line. That would have put us over $400. That ain't happening. Switched us all to StraightTalk and pay $150 a month now. Since you cam use Verizon phonesvon StraightTalk now it made it easy. Bought this honor 5x since I'm not held down by red anymore and can use different sim cards like the rest of the world. You can put 2 sims in it and an SD card at the same time. I've heard that's pretty rare to have that capability. Love the phone so far, but I've only had it for about 6 hrs now.
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After I posted I checked things a little closer, and found no mention of it working on VZW. I hear the customer service with StraightTalk is terrible? But can you get a StraightTalk sim, and be on the actual VZW CDMA Network, or at least use the same towers? I tried a Lenovo Zuk Z1 with AT&T pay as you go, and the service did not compare to the VZW in my area, otherwise, I would have switched all my phones to an AT&T contract plan. My ZUK was a dual sim as well, but I eventually sent it back to the seller for a full refund with no questions asked.
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After I posted I checked things a little closer, and found no mention of it working on VZW. I hear the customer service with StraightTalk is terrible? But can you get a StraightTalk sim, and be on the actual VZW CDMA Network, or at least use the same towers? I tried a Lenovo Zuk Z1 with AT&T pay as you go, and the service did not compare to the VZW in my area, otherwise, I would have switched all my phones to an AT&T contract plan. My ZUK was a dual sim as well, but I eventually sent it back to the seller for a full refund with no questions asked.
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Yes StraightTalk does have CDMA sim cards now. Months ago I switched over my Verizon Note 2 to a ST sim and it US d the same towers. It even showed Verizon as the network. And yes, their customer service is horrible. I'm not sure what country it is with, but its really lacking. As long as you don't have any issues ST is great. lol Unfortunately I've had to call them a few times and it was a very memorable event. Guess you can't expect much for unlimited everything for $45 a month. Only the first 5 GB is at 4g speed. I'm onvwifi for 90% of the time, so it doesn't really affect me.
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Yes StraightTalk does have CDMA sim cards now. Months ago I switched over my Verizon Note 2 to a ST sim and it US d the same towers. It even showed Verizon as the network. And yes, their customer service is horrible. I'm not sure what country it is with, but its really lacking. As long as you don't have any issues ST is great. lol Unfortunately I've had to call them a few times and it was a very memorable event. Guess you can't expect much for unlimited everything for $45 a month. Only the first 5 GB is at 4g speed. I'm onvwifi for 90% of the time, so it doesn't really affect me.
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I assume that Honor is a GSM phone anyways right? So is straight talk using the same towers as VZW to put out a GSM signal? What about 4G, are you able to get that with Straight Talk? I was never able to get that with my Zuk on the AT&T plan.
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Honor 5X is GSM and Straighttalk will default to AT&T towers, deal breaker for me, like every other dual sim phone.
Personally I'd go for the Nexus 5x. I don't personally own it yet. But it will be my next phone and I'm buying it straight from Google so vzw can't bend me over with a bill the size of china

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