Can either one of these be added to Verizon and still get LTE?..... I'm asking because they're on sale already
Do you refer to those variants that come with stock android, or what we call around here, vanilla versions of jelly bean? They should still get LTE, since it's more dependent on the hardware if a phone can get LTE. As far as I know, all HTC ones and GS4's will come with the hardware to support LTE.
the Google variants
The Google play editions AFAIK should be gsm only
I could be wrong, however
“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
According to the official Google Play page for the S4, it supports LTE
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=samsung_galaxy_s4
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Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)
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And for the HTC One...
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
NETWORK
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSDPA 21, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (700 MHz, AWS)
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FlyGurl said:
The Google play editions AFAIK should be gsm only
I could be wrong, however
“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
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Correct.
As far as the nexus line is concerned (which the i9505g is a nexus on the software side) it's always a GSM device.
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It does support the 700mhz band that Verizon uses...but AT&T uses that as well.
I'm assuming it's gsm only until proven otherwise
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FlyGurl said:
It does support the 700mhz band that Verizon uses...but AT&T uses that as well.
I'm assuming it's gsm only until proven otherwise
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It says on the Google Play store that it's 4G LTE...
yeah I read lte also but Verizon doesn't play well with others so I wouldn't want to buy one and get stuck on 3g u know for sure other carriers wont mind throwing some lte in to them but Verizon always makes a big deal about everything
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yeah I read lte also but Verizon doesn't play well with others so I wouldn't want to buy one and get stuck on 3g u know for sure other carriers wont mind throwing some lte in to them but Verizon always makes a big deal about everything
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Good news then, if you buy one and try to use on Verizon you definitely won't be stuck on 3g since you won't even get that.
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It says on the Google Play store that it's 4G LTE...
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AT&T has 4G LTE..
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FlyGurl said:
AT&T has 4G LTE..
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I'm on Verizon
deathnotice01 said:
Correct.
As far as the nexus line is concerned (which the i9505g is a nexus on the software side) it's always a GSM device.
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No it is not. A nexus is fully supported by aosp which these devices are not. A nexus is updated by google and again these are not.
To answer the OP. No these will not work on Verizon
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I would like to buy this phone but i am moving to the UK in the new year. on the Rogers website it lists the frequencies of the of the Razr as:
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
HSPA Bands: 850/900/1900/2100
I was wondering if this means that you can use the Razr with 3g in the UK?... or even if the frequencies listed on the Rogers page are true?
It should work since 900, 2100 bands are presented
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Would say yeah. But not HSPA, I think UK is still stucking with GSM.
Fealakwen said:
Would say yeah. But not HSPA, I think UK is still stucking with GSM.
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All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
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All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
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Okay, my mistake. Seems like France is alone in Middle Age :/
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All the major UK carriers support HSDPA/HSUPA, and one carrier (3) is currently rolling out HSPA+ this year. Coverage will be undoubtedly spotty though.
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Thank you, i just wanted to make sure. Would make it easier so i would not be stuck in a monthly plan when i get there.
The S3's bands
Product Features and Technical Details
Product Features
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network Region Based
Dimensions 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6mm
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Then T-Mobile's bands
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA 2G/3G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G 1994
1700/2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G[35] 2006
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G 1994
1700/2100 MHz LTE 4G 2006
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From this to me it looks like enough match up that The international S3 may have 3g/4g, The phone does not have the 1700 ban for 4g.
Has anyone tried the international unlocked S3 GSM on T-Mobile in the US?
I would love to hear someone's personal experience.
Found this on the Amazon reviews of the product, but people seem to be arguing about it in the comments.
This review is from: Samsung Galaxy S III/S3 GT-I9300 Factory Unlocked Phone - International Version (Ceramic White) (Unlocked Phone)
This International version works in the US as follows: AT&T No LTE, T-Mobile only EDGE No 3G, No 4G. Not compatible with Verizon or Sprint network.
edit: 2 users have claimed that their Intn'l version does produce on AT&T 4G range.
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Pretty sure you'll just end up with EDGE dude.
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Pretty sure you'll just end up with EDGE dude.
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Ouch...
I kinda want a new phone, been living with my Vibrant for some time, it's not a bad phone with Cyanogen 9 dailies. Just the intermittent GPS issues piss me off.
Think I might just wait for the next version of Nexus, I want quad core computing power and the stability of a "google phone" for upcoming software upgrades.
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Think I might just wait for the next version of Nexus, I want quad core computing power and the stability of a "google phone" for upcoming software upgrades.
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Stay with the nexus line if updates is your thing..
I can't promise hardware wise tho.. since Google seems to always forget about hardware when releasing a "Nexus" device..
idky t-mobile didn't get the quad-core version.. they don't have LTE anyway
I can gaurantee you that you only get edge on tmobile i have the i9300 and its only edge for me in the states (WA state). but i plopped my friends AT&T sim card into my phone and BAM had 3g.
All EDGE. I'm doing it right now.
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Is there an app or command to log the different frequency bands available in an area? I'm thinking of getting a Galaxy Note 2, but the Note 2 doesn't support the 1700MHz frequency band, and I'm on T-mobile. Any way to figure out if the new phone will get reception, other than just plonking down ~$650 and hoping for the best?
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Is there an app or command to log the different frequency bands available in an area? I'm thinking of getting a Galaxy Note 2, but the Note 2 doesn't support the 1700MHz frequency band, and I'm on T-mobile. Any way to figure out if the new phone will get reception, other than just plonking down ~$650 and hoping for the best?
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You will have EDGE coverage anywhere, but I wouldn't buy an expensive new phone that doesn't support 3G for your carrier.
Why aren't you buying via T-Mobile, that does support their speeds?
https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phone...ll-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Titanium-Gray
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You will have EDGE coverage anywhere, but I wouldn't buy an expensive new phone that doesn't support 3G for your carrier.
Why aren't you buying via T-Mobile, that does support their speeds?
https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phone...ll-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Titanium-Gray
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First, because the phone is at least $70 more expensive on T-mobile's store.
Second, even that version of the phone does not do HSPA+ over 1700 MHz (it's actually the same N7100 you see everywhere). The trick is, T-mobile is supposedly switching all of their 1700-band HSPA+ towers to 1900 band, partly in preparation for their LTE rollout and partly because that's the only way they'll be able to get the iPhone to work with their network, but they haven't gotten it done everywhere and I'm concerned that I'll plop down ~$600 on a phone that only gets 2G speeds at work.
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First, because the phone is at least $70 more expensive on T-mobile's store.
Second, even that version of the phone does not do HSPA+ over 1700 MHz (it's actually the same N7100 you see everywhere). The trick is, T-mobile is supposedly switching all of their 1700-band HSPA+ towers to 1900 band, partly in preparation for their LTE rollout and partly because that's the only way they'll be able to get the iPhone to work with their network, but they haven't gotten it done everywhere and I'm concerned that I'll plop down ~$600 on a phone that only gets 2G speeds at work.
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You had me worried so I looked it up. According to the news sources I found, T-Mobile is converting it's 1900 2g towers to support HSPA+. So for the present the current 3G network is not in danger. I suppose my Amaze will continue working for a while!
Where did you see a report that they are changing out the 1700 band HSPA+ towers?
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"In May, T-Mobile's chief technology officer Neville Ray said the company would be repurposing its existing 1900MHz 2G service with 4G HSPA+, in order to "provide customers with the ability to use a broader range of devices, including the iPhone, on T-Mobile's 4G network.""
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...nvert_its_4g_network_to_support_apples_iphone
stevedebi said:
You had me worried so I looked it up. According to the news sources I found, T-Mobile is converting it's 1900 2g towers to support HSPA+. So for the present the current 3G network is not in danger. I suppose my Amaze will continue working for a while!
Where did you see a report that they are changing out the 1700 band HSPA+ towers?
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"In May, T-Mobile's chief technology officer Neville Ray said the company would be repurposing its existing 1900MHz 2G service with 4G HSPA+, in order to "provide customers with the ability to use a broader range of devices, including the iPhone, on T-Mobile's 4G network.""
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...nvert_its_4g_network_to_support_apples_iphone
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Almost every tech news site that discusses the 1900 band refarming mentions that the reason is to re-deploy 1700 for LTE (that, and to get the iPhone running on T-mobile because Apple outright refuses to make the iPhone pentaband for some reason). It's a fairly easy Google away.
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Almost every tech news site that discusses the 1900 band refarming mentions that the reason is to re-deploy 1700 for LTE (that, and to get the iPhone running on T-mobile because Apple outright refuses to make the iPhone pentaband for some reason). It's a fairly easy Google away.
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The link I provided quoted a t-mobile representative. And I got it from a Google search...
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So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
Seems to be correct.. but im not a expert when it comes to network bands
Red5 said:
So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Ah, that clears it up for me. Thanks.
TRF-Inferno said:
The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
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Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
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Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
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T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
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Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
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Their device identifier code will certainly be different, so HTC will make sure you can't run the Developer Edition's RUU for the AT&T phone. As far as custom ROM is concerned, I don't see why you can't use the same ROM as long as it's not touching any other partition other than the /system.
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T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
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Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
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Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
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I had straight talk before I went to att. The difference is mind blowing. Even on just h+ it blows straight talk out of the water 3 fold. I don't regret leaving straight talk one bit
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https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/648919023158206464
This is a real disappointment. Granted it will eventually be added (hardware is already there, just isn't certified on T-Mo yet) but Band 12 support is the the biggest reason I want this phone. T-Mo inside of building is basically non-existent to the point I've considered changing carriers. My 6p doesn't arrive for a few weeks but I may cancel the pre-order before then because of this news.
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https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/648919023158206464
This is a real disappointment. Granted it will eventually be added (hardware is already there, just isn't certified on T-Mo yet) but Band 12 support is the the biggest reason I want this phone. T-Mo inside of building is basically non-existent to the point I've considered changing carriers. My 6p doesn't arrive for a few weeks but I may cancel the pre-order before then because of this news.
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That's not surprising, T-Mobile took forever last year to get wifi calling and it kind like B12 is their new toy to delay
I have tmobile..but what is band 12 support mean?
I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's a certification thing. The 6P is certainly capable. That means it's easily fixed via software update, which I'm sure will eventually happen. T-Mo seems to be reserving band 12 right now for the devices they directly sell, although they're able to list numerous reasons why that's just a coincidence. Eventually, the politics will pass, and this issue will quietly be resolved in the background.
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I have tmobile..but what is band 12 support mean?
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Band 12 means you get support for 700 MHz. It's nothing necessarily new but T-Mobile h as been pushing out 700 MHz spectrum. The significance is that 700 MHz penetrates through buildings/walls better so you'll have better service/reception assuming your phone is in 700 MHz / Band 12.
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I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's a certification thing. The 6P is certainly capable. That means it's easily fixed via software update, which I'm sure will eventually happen. T-Mo seems to be reserving band 12 right now for the devices they directly sell, although they're able to list numerous reasons why that's just a coincidence. Eventually, the politics will pass, and this issue will quietly be resolved in the background.
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Seems like T-Mobile is working with Google on this, I agree though.. it's more or less just certification and I'm sure it'll be approved as Google uses T-Mobile for Fi so they have a good relationship. Hopefully it'll be resolved before the launch.
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Band 12 means you get support for 700 MHz. It's nothing necessarily new but T-Mobile h as been pushing out 700 MHz spectrum. The significance is that 700 MHz penetrates through buildings/walls better so you'll have better service/reception assuming your phone is in 700 MHz / Band 12.
Seems like T-Mobile is working with Google on this, I agree though.. it's more or less just certification and I'm sure it'll be approved as Google uses T-Mobile for Fi so they have a good relationship. Hopefully it'll be resolved before the launch.
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Thanks. So I'll get even better reception once approved?
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Hmm.. they did something like this with the Nexus 4. It came with Band 4 capability but it was disabled. Hopefully we can find a workaround again in the event T-Mobile doesn't cooperate.
thanks for the information, now I finally get why people have been complaining about Band 12.
I'm not getting it now with my Moto X Pure(I hope), nor have I with other phones so it'll be cool once I get it.
Another updated article.
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/09/nexu...or-volte-but-google-said-to-be-working-on-it/
Google is working on getting band 12 by ship date: https://nr.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...hi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjiteb
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Google is working on getting band 12 by ship date: https://nr.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...hi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjiteb
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yup just saw that
I have yet to see and 12 on my Note 4. LA is supposed to have it, but many times when I'm in a building, I either get no reception or E, which is basically no reception. When I'm out and about, all I see is band 4, so as long as the 6P gets good band 4 reception, I'm good for the moment
I was wondering about WiFi calling since it's not sold direct through TMobile but looks like I won't have to worry
FYI to everyone, T-Mobile has a VERY legitimate reason for doing this. Since T-Mobile is working a transition to VoLTE, the new areas they expand Band12 to don't have traditional phone service. This means if your phone doesn't have VoLTE, you can have a signal but can't call 911 and there is no way to prioritize it to roaming to remedy that.
Consequently, its a safety issue. Since VoLTE is still early, there aren't enough standards and manufactures have to get certified through T-Mobile for it. As stated in the AMA, this shouldn't be an issue because google should get the nexus phones certified before the ship.
While we're on the topic of band 12, why does the 6P not have band 4 to band 12 carrier aggregation. The 5X has it, what the hell?
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While we're on the topic of band 12, why does the 6P not have band 4 to band 12 carrier aggregation. The 5X has it, what the hell?
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misprint?
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misprint?
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Nexus 6P:
CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Nexus 5X:
CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
As a t-mobile customer with band 4 and 12 coverage, and no band 2 coverage I really hope it's a misprint. T-Mobile holds the D, E, and F chunks of band 4 in north america so at least B4-B4 will probably provide a nice pile of bandwidth. It looks like Canadians on Bell/Rogers are going to get screwed by the lack of B4-B7 as well.
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In layman's terms, what actually is meant by band 4 to 12 aggregation?
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In layman's terms, what actually is meant by band 4 to 12 aggregation?
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phone uses more than one band or tower at the same time.
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Nexus 6P:
CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Nexus 5X:
CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
As a t-mobile customer with band 4 and 12 coverage, and no band 2 coverage I really hope it's a misprint. T-Mobile holds the D, E, and F chunks of band 4 in north america so at least B4-B4 will probably provide a nice pile of bandwidth. It looks like Canadians on Bell/Rogers are going to get screwed by the lack of B4-B7 as well.
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after hours with nexus and Fi support the specs are correct. 5x has superior network hardware. 6p t-mobile users (in band 12 areas) are screwed.
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after hours with nexus and Fi support the specs are correct. 5x has superior network hardware. 6p t-mobile users (in band 12 areas) are screwed.
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Thanks for that. Afraid I'm in the dark on this. I tried searching for Tmobile band integration and couldn't find anything. Can you suggest a different search term or perhaps a link that explains the technology?