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I spoke with a high level manager at Sandisk US today regarding a project I am involved with that utilizes micro sdhc cards. The project requires as much memory as possible and I asked them when the 8GB would be available for testing and for purchase.
I was told that testing units to qualified partners would be available in Q4 of this year with full production around the beginning of 2008.
Any other information you get from a possible seller is suspect and should be viewed as inaccurate.
Unfortunately this will keep the cost of the 4GB high until 2008.
Someones pulling your leg!
nicholasendean said:
Someones pulling your leg!
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I kind of doubt it since I was speaking with the OEM Marketing Manager and the Sales group for Sandisk USA in California. Maybe things are different in Europe but this is the company line in the states.
Also, keep in mind that I wasn't calling as a consumer, but rather as a potential OEM partner so I have no reason to doubt their word and they have no reason to screw with me.
I have been using an 8GB MICRO SD for about 2 weeks. A lady friend in Germany sent it to me to borrow. It works perfectly with the rom on my Hermes: HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108
I am not able to tell others what I dont know but what I do know is the company who produce the version I am messing about with produce internal components and similar to Nokia. The card simply has a code on it with the number 8 at the end. It also works in my Card reader through windows XP. It recognizes it on the laptop too.
Point is that it is 8GB.
I will be glad when I can get a hold of a released version as it may not be the fastest at copying to and from via the PC but it is great to be able to store more films and music.
I meant by pulling you leg, that there are several others from what I can gather who are about to release the 8GB and above over the coming weeks and it may pay you to look further than Sandisk is you are in a hurry.
I fully understood the angle you were trying to explain and realized you meant you were chatting to them as a non consumer.(a potential OEM partner)
UPDATED: The "8" is NOT an "8" it is a "symbol" that looks like half a "B" with a line protruding through it. It means nothing to me as I have no idea what it stands for. The code looks like "Be33-f" what ever that means. Maybe someone can add some light on it. I have a feeling it is simply a code and thats it.
nicholasendean said:
I have been using an 8GB MICRO SD for about 2 weeks. A lady friend in Germany sent it to me to borrow. It works perfectly with the rom on my Hermes: HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108
I am not able to tell others what I dont know but what I do know is the company who produce the version I am messing about with produce internal components and similar to Nokia. The card simply has a code on it with the number 8 at the end. It also works in my Card reader through windows XP. It recognizes it on the laptop too.
Point is that it is 8GB.
I will be glad when I can get a hold of a released version as it may not be the fastest at copying to and from via the PC but it is great to be able to store more films and music.
I meant by pulling you leg, that there are several others from what I can gather who are about to release the 8GB and above over the coming weeks and it may pay you to look further than Sandisk is you are in a hurry.
I fully understood the angle you were trying to explain and realized you meant you were chatting to them as a non consumer.(a potential OEM partner)
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Hmmmm, very interesting.
So it sounds like you have a pre-production piece from whomever. The poeople at Sandisk seemed to indicate that there were some in the hands of the phone OEM's already but they didn't offer any hope of me getting one. The quantity my program needs is in the hundreds, the phone people are talking in the 10's of thousands. I'm just a small **** to them...
Not a bad idea for me to look else where. Maybe Kingston, A-Data or PNY...
Enjoy your 8GB, the rest of us are green with envy...
alylea said:
Hmmmm, very interesting.
So it sounds like you have a pre-production piece from whomever. The poeople at Sandisk seemed to indicate that there were some in the hands of the phone OEM's already but they didn't offer any hope of me getting one. The quantity my program needs is in the hundreds, the phone people are talking in the 10's of thousands. I'm just a small **** to them...
Not a bad idea for me to look else where. Maybe Kingston, A-Data or PNY...
Enjoy your 8GB, the rest of us are green with envy...
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i know i am...and drooling...but am stuck right now whether to get an 8gb pro duo stick for my son's psp....
nicholasendean said:
The code looks like "Be33-f" what ever that means.
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Did you say Beef?!
I just hope the new 8Gb cards wont have a negative impact on the transfer rates.
While you're waiting for your 8GB chips, I've noticed a few online retailers taking pre-orders for 6GB microSDHCs -- at least one says they'll be available as of Aug. 23.
3waygeek said:
While you're waiting for your 8GB chips, I've noticed a few online retailers taking pre-orders for 6GB microSDHCs -- at least one says they'll be available as of Aug. 23.
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Hi 3waygeek,
Thanks for the info. Any idea who those retailers are?
I have a call scheduled with the N.E. rep for Sandisk later today. Maybe he can do something for me.
BLT and PCSuperStore both say they'll have them on the 23rd.
8gb Problems...!!!!
Update on 8GB Micro SD Card.
I have been using an 8GB Micro SD card for a while now and was more than happy with the results. Up until 17th (Fri) everything was fine. But I am adding this post to let others know that the card and phone no longer work together. The point is, I cannot access the card from my Hermes any longer. Its DOES however show up perfectly ok from the Card reader on the PC. Resco Explorer and the MS built in Explorer does NOT pick the card up. I have no idea what is going on. I have reformatted the card and also reinstalled after formating the Hermes the rom I have been using. Nothing has worked. My 4GB card works perfectly ok so it is definitely something to do with the Hermes not being able to work with the 8GB Card.
I'm in a rush so forgive the quick post to the thread. Just adding my notes to anyone who is thinking of going along the same route, as I have concerns now about the 8GB working reliably with the Hermes I have. It may well be the Rom I am using? I am not able to put another rom on my phone at the mo due to other commitments.
Hmmmm...
I too wonder what happened? What ROM are you using? Did you add/delete any apps prior to the problem? Crashes/lockups within 24 hours? Do you reboot every day or ?
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BLT and PCSuperStore both say they'll have them on the 23rd.
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BLT has pushed the date to 9/4.
My connection in the Sandisk OEM group is still talking about Q1 2008 for the 8GB. OEM says that it may become available to the retail channels before OEM gets them.
There is a sample order booked for me @ Sandisk but the ship date is open.
high level manager? - LOL
You spoke to a Rep that claims to be the manager - i know, im in the industry
refering back to my 8GB card problems: I hardly ever needed to reset my Hermes and at most I would say twice a week at the most did it need a kick start or reset.
This is what surprised me about the 8GB card suddenly refusing to work. I have since changed ROms and now have changed from the
1. previous::HERM_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_CustomRUU
2. new:: TNT_2.0_official_6mb
I have tried to use the 8GB with the new rom but alas it still not acknowledged. I have no idea what to make of this as the card DID work and for a good three weeks until it suddenly stopped being picked up by the PDA. However as before it IS working ok as my Dell latitude laptop picks the MicroSD card up every time I insert it into the reader.
Its one of the craziest situations I have come across to date/
Incidentally, on a more positive note: the new TNT rom is the fastest I have ever used. I opted for the official version to save on space and it is great. Still doesn't pick up the card but I give up.
Am sticking with my previous 4GB MicroSD.
I digress........
chingy213 said:
high level manager? - LOL
You spoke to a Rep that claims to be the manager - i know, im in the industry
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Hi Chingy,
Actually, I have been working with the Product Manager, Natl. OEM Sales Manager, and the Eastern Regional OEM Sales Manager for Sandisk in California in addition to the OEM rep company President and salesman for my area.
My emails and phone conversations have been with all of the above so yes, I feel my information is accurate at least from the OEM division standpoint. I was told that the Retail group is a separate entity from the OEM group so in fact they may hit retail sooner but they didn't know anything one way or the other.
Interesting that you are n the industry, drop me a PM and let me know what you do. I'm in IT Security big time, maybe there's synergy here.
Good News, there is a way to upgrade the HTC 7 Mozart and I have done it successfully .
I have attached an image of the zune screen showing the updated memory to 14.73GB
Cheers Andy
Now includes:
Video here
and
Photos here
Hi Andy,
just put the Link to your article in here and add a space between the firtst 2 characters of your link.
Should be something like that::
h ttp://mylink.com
Then we all know how to handle that ;-)
Greetz Ralf
I also did the same thing to my phone the other night and found that the original micro SD card was a class 4, so what I want to know is... What class of micro SD card did you use? I changed over my SD card the other night with a class 2 16GB and found that it showed up in the boot-loader as 'unknown' type SD card and that after the hard reset, when the phone was setting up and installing apps, it was taking 4 x longer then what it was when I had the original 8GB micro SD class 4 card in it.
Let me know if this has been the same for you or anyone else that has tried this. I have ordered a class 4 16GB SD card to try soon.
Cheers
Could you just copy/paste the procedure ?!...please
Ok Here is the link
Thanks Ralf
http://wp.me/p1azFB-J -try that
As you will see I just used an old class 2 16GB card that I had lying around, I think it is a Duracell brand !!. There were no problems with booting at all, just went straight to a message saying that the menu tiles were corrupt and asking for a reset. No noticable speed difference, but I will be getting a class 4 32Gb as soon as I can find one for a decent price.
Cheers
Andy
Good job...Thanks...!!
would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
Hello andyrham,
First, i would like to thank you for your aticle...It's AMAZING!
But i have a question: with what did you unscrew the screws? What are the tools needed?
Thanks a lot!
its too risky...probably i wont operate it like this...but a brilliant operation!!!
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Hello andyrham,
First, i would like to thank you for your aticle...It's AMAZING!
But i have a question: with what did you unscrew the screws? What are the tools needed?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi Pipolas
For 3 of the black screws you will need to use a torx screwdriver, they are sometimes sold as "security" screwdrivers . The size you need is T6 x50. There is also 2 phillips screws which I just used a very small star pointed screwdriver for.
Hope that helps and thanks for your comments
Cheers
Andy
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Hi Pipolas
For 3 of the black screws you will need to use a torx screwdriver, they are sometimes sold as "security" screwdrivers . The size you need is T6 x50. There is also 2 phillips screws which I just used a very small star pointed screwdriver for.
Hope that helps and thanks for your comments
Cheers
Andy
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Thank you!
Tomorow i'll buy a t6 torx screwdriver, and i'll follow your aticle!
Thanks again!
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would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
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I dont know yet about a class 6 32Gb replacement, but I am going to order one and try myself, as I beleive it will be fine. I will let you know once I get it delivered.
BYW, in terms of speed comparison, I have non-scientifically compared my 16GB class2 with my wife's standard 8GB Class 4 and the results look almost identical, in fact in some tests loading into IE etc the Class 2 phone was quicker. I need to run some games though to test properly, as they run mainly from the SD card and any real speed variance will be most apparent then.
There are no serial numbers needed, what WP7 is doing is formating the card in a special way, hence the need for the hard reset. This is shown by the fact that the 8GB card removed from the phone is not Fat32 formatted when connected to a PC and therefore does not show up. Equally when you plug your WP7 phone into the usb slot, it does not show up as a Removable Disk so you cannot simply transfer files to it like with WM6 and before. It remains to be seen if it can be reformatted to use elswhere.
Hope that helps
Cheers
Andy
andyrham said:
I dont know yet about a class 6 32Gb replacement, but I am going to order one and try myself, as I beleive it will be fine. I will let you know once I get it delivered.
BYW, in terms of speed comparison, I have non-scientifically compared my 16GB class2 with my wife's standard 8GB Class 4 and the results look almost identical, in fact in some tests loading into IE etc the Class 2 phone was quicker. I need to run some games though to test properly, as they run mainly from the SD card and any real speed variance will be most apparent then.
There are no serial numbers needed, what WP7 is doing is formating the card in a special way, hence the need for the hard reset. This is shown by the fact that the 8GB card removed from the phone is not Fat32 formatted when connected to a PC and therefore does not show up. Equally when you plug your WP7 phone into the usb slot, it does not show up as a Removable Disk so you cannot simply transfer files to it like with WM6 and before. It remains to be seen if it can be reformatted to use elswhere.
Hope that helps
Cheers
Andy
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big thanks to u dude,i'll try tomorrow(i have to buy torx)
tell us if with micro SD 32Go it works
hmmm...
Though this sounds really tempting I am sure I would not have the dare to do it myself...
I hope there might be people who can do it and give for a service charge...
Would wait with my 8 Gb till than...
shamreez said:
hmmm...
Though this sounds really tempting I am sure I would not have the dare to do it myself...
I hope there might be people who can do it and give for a service charge...
Would wait with my 8 Gb till than...
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I agree - sounds very tempting!!
Need to have a serious think about this. Thanks for the cracking guide tho.
You're a brave man, Andy. Thanks for taking the plunge and figuring this out for us. I might wait until the device is more than a few weeks old before attempting myself
thanks for sharing.
eh Andy i have a little problem :
how did you manage to put the power cord into the plug that is on the metal part? because I was handling, but the only thing that stuck is the mini usb port on this phone that is attached to the hull, I can not recharge the battery.
I suppose it is inserted incorrectly because at one point I tried to connect to PC USB port for a few seconds and he got "recognized" detected "then it went away.
thank you in advance for your help
Thanks Andy for sharing!
However i was wondering if this manipulation cancel the warrantly...?
Tsointsoin said:
Thanks Andy for sharing!
However i was wondering if this manipulation cancel the warrantly...?
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yes going to do this will void the warranty
QQ; does SD performance degrade over time? I've noticed big media files (~500MB) I save to my SD is taking longer and longer to transfer.
I might also need to reformat my PC, but I wanted to be sure.
Thanks,
Hobbes2099 said:
QQ; does SD performance degrade over time? I've noticed big media files (~500MB) I save to my SD is taking longer and longer to transfer.
I might also need to reformat my PC, but I wanted to be sure.
Thanks,
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SD cards allow a certain number of reads/writes before they start losing performance, it's only normal!
hehe what's up with degradation threads, what's next?
Clean it up.. as SD's fill they become slower.
A back up what you need and format
riginal said:
hehe what's up with degradation threads, what's next?
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hehehehehe!
It's natural, most of our X10s are now old enough to start showing symptoms
of old age! Geriatrics anyone?
I love it that some people have money to throw at new phones and can replace things at any time.
I have several of my old phones and electronic devices. if you take care of your technology it will take care of you.
It's true.. things do degrade but not after a single year unless you use it aggressively.
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I love it that some people have money to throw at new phones and can replace things at any time.
I have several of my old phones and electronic devices. if you take care of your technology it will take care of you.
It's true.. things do degrade but not after a single year unless you use it aggressively.
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Yeah, I agree.
But it all depends on build quality and especially as far as SD cards
are concerned, some are just faulty from the beginning.
I've noticed that some Transcend ones look like a cheap-knockoff of themselves
(even though I always buy from legitimate stores with physical presence, not from eBay for example)
and gave me problems very soon, had to format them pretty often
to work right. On the opposite side, Kingston seem to be durable and more reliable.
My_Immortal said:
Yeah, I agree.
But it all depends on build quality and especially as far as SD cards
are concerned, some are just faulty from the beginning.
I've noticed that some Transcend ones look like a cheap-knockoff of themselves
(even though I always buy from legitimate stores with physical presence, not from eBay for example)
and gave me problems very soon, had to format them pretty often
to work right. On the opposite side, Kingston seem to be durable and more reliable.
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So true.. you buy crap you get crap.
In the X10's case you payed for gold but you got silver.
I think the ideal thing to do, like OmegaRED said, is clean the SD up.
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If you cannot backup and format your card, you can move some big files elsewhere, increase the SD Cache amount and run the Windows Defrag (mounting your phone or card in a computer). I'm sure your card will be very faster!
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.... but a full SD is always a slow SD.
Are we sure there is no micro SD card slot on the tab 10? Has anyone taken apart the unit? There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version, maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
The fact that the tab 10 was SUPPOSED to come with a micro SD card slot and at the last minute having it left out leads me to GREATLY believe that the actual slot is on the system board just covered up by the plastic shell.
The slot is supposed to be just to the right of the volume buttons.
I cant take my unit apart until I get the stupid 3-prong security bits to unscrew the screws near the usb connector.
Mh interesting, my rotary tool is ready
5thElement said:
There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version,
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I didn't think there was??
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
Berner said:
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
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You obviously have no idea that all samsung pre-production models of the tab 10 (im not talking about the 10v model) had a micro sd card slot. There are plenty of pictures online. The sd card slot is there. Or at least there will be traces on the board. IMO the actual slot is soldered on the board as it was last min choice to have the option removed.
It'd be interesting to know if there is one or not......
I haven't taken mine apart yet, and have no interest in doing it. Never the less, I would also be interested in knowing what we have going on back there. I searched for a teardown by iSuppli or similar, but did not find anything. Too bad.
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
It's more than possible. Look at WP7 phones.
Berner said:
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
5thElement said:
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'm friends with Superman.
5thElement said:
... maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
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It seems just as likely, if not more, that the pre production unit had a slot in the case, but no functioning SD hardware behind it. Even if the hardware is there, getting it to work w/o Samsung's support could be difficult. Look how hard it's been for the zoom, while Motorola intended for it to work
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Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
hyann said:
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
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Advantage would be the ability to market the next product as "New and improved with expandable memory."
My professional opinion in concern to prototyping and designing, its much easier to modify and replace a plastic/aluminum enclosure than modifying a stockpile of motherboards
kragebein said:
I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
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Fantastic. Cant wait.
seems we have a winning entry to answer all questions on this topic and put it to rest, no x-ray needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15276646&postcount=13
I have taken the liberty of messaging the user for his input on this threads subject and have requested he shed some light on this mind boggling question
I think this line right here is what's confusing people.
"micro-SD card slot for up to 32GB memory through a USB adapter (have to buy separately)"
It's possible to extend it through the USB adapter, but IMO it's much easier to use a service like dropbox or sugarsync. Save a few playlists locally with iSyncr then have the rest of your library on google music. I use sugarsync. I use it all the time. It's a great way to get files onto your device, wireless.
Where's the pictures of the pre production tab having the SD slot? And BTW it's up to the person making a claim against the norm to prove it... not the other way around, that's ridiculous.
5thElement said:
What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
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I wonder if anyone's looked in to this? Could be huge - most of us have a dead simcard slot - I wonder if there's a way to hack in an sdcard reader to the hardware?
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
RojasTKD said:
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
coolhand83 said:
He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
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Yes, I misunderstood... my apologies.
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
Sent from my HP Touchpad using Tapatalk
tekowalsky said:
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
Sent from my HP Touchpad using Tapatalk
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you would probably need to create 5v first. the touchpad I think runs off something like 3v. while I seems like a good idea to hack in a card reader,my feeling is not to.worry until you in out of memory. a better idea might be a device stuck to the back containing a extra battery and a card.reader. It would make the tablet thicker but increase battery life and provide plenty of storageas well as providing the power needed for the reader.
PA49 said:
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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LateralOctober said:
This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
pa49 said:
Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Do you have a link?
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Do you have a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
pa49 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
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Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
RojasTKD said:
Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
pa49 said:
Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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I don't have a problem...
1. I didn't see where he asked about it... my apologies there.
2. Just pointing out the limited usefulness compared to the SD card solution.
I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Personally I think the best solution would have been if HP would of just included an SD or MicroSD card. It drive me nuts when manufacturers mimic the apple model and give you less option and features as if that will equal success (looking at you Touchpad and GalaxyTab 10.1).
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Technically a TouchPad without hardware damage is unbrickable, USB is connected to CPU so you could always push a boot image to RAM.
You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
Which brings us to the next question, can we have an application to access our Palm accounts from Android?
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You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
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But I like local storage. I rather have my music on my SD card. There are some picture I'd also like to have on my device locally. Same with documents and a variety of other thing. I don't have to have everything on there, but there are something I would like to have. Not to mention that being a WiFi device I can't always have access to cloud storage.
There is room for both in my opinion.
OK, I'm done... back to you regularly scheduled thread.
ive been curious about this since i got mine, but i have a 32gb, so its never really been a project in the front of my mind...imma take a look at the whitesheets and teardowns (cuz i dont wanna open mine if SD isnt possible ) and see if there are even pins for data available, but im pretty sure there isnt, which would also explain why devs are working on getting OTG running