Are we SURE there is no micro SD card slot??? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Are we sure there is no micro SD card slot on the tab 10? Has anyone taken apart the unit? There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version, maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
The fact that the tab 10 was SUPPOSED to come with a micro SD card slot and at the last minute having it left out leads me to GREATLY believe that the actual slot is on the system board just covered up by the plastic shell.
The slot is supposed to be just to the right of the volume buttons.
I cant take my unit apart until I get the stupid 3-prong security bits to unscrew the screws near the usb connector.

Mh interesting, my rotary tool is ready

5thElement said:
There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version,
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I didn't think there was??

There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.

Berner said:
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
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You obviously have no idea that all samsung pre-production models of the tab 10 (im not talking about the 10v model) had a micro sd card slot. There are plenty of pictures online. The sd card slot is there. Or at least there will be traces on the board. IMO the actual slot is soldered on the board as it was last min choice to have the option removed.

It'd be interesting to know if there is one or not......

I haven't taken mine apart yet, and have no interest in doing it. Never the less, I would also be interested in knowing what we have going on back there. I searched for a teardown by iSuppli or similar, but did not find anything. Too bad.

I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.

It's more than possible. Look at WP7 phones.

Berner said:
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?

Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?

5thElement said:
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'm friends with Superman.

5thElement said:
... maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
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It seems just as likely, if not more, that the pre production unit had a slot in the case, but no functioning SD hardware behind it. Even if the hardware is there, getting it to work w/o Samsung's support could be difficult. Look how hard it's been for the zoom, while Motorola intended for it to work

5thElement said:
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)

maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.

hyann said:
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
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Advantage would be the ability to market the next product as "New and improved with expandable memory."
My professional opinion in concern to prototyping and designing, its much easier to modify and replace a plastic/aluminum enclosure than modifying a stockpile of motherboards

kragebein said:
I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
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Fantastic. Cant wait.

seems we have a winning entry to answer all questions on this topic and put it to rest, no x-ray needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15276646&postcount=13
I have taken the liberty of messaging the user for his input on this threads subject and have requested he shed some light on this mind boggling question

I think this line right here is what's confusing people.
"micro-SD card slot for up to 32GB memory through a USB adapter (have to buy separately)"
It's possible to extend it through the USB adapter, but IMO it's much easier to use a service like dropbox or sugarsync. Save a few playlists locally with iSyncr then have the rest of your library on google music. I use sugarsync. I use it all the time. It's a great way to get files onto your device, wireless.

Where's the pictures of the pre production tab having the SD slot? And BTW it's up to the person making a claim against the norm to prove it... not the other way around, that's ridiculous.
5thElement said:
What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
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hd2 n00b questions

I am purchasing an hd2 that has a non-responsive touch screen (not cracked/broken) from someone off of craigslist. I'm willing to take a chance and hope i'm lucky enough that it's not a complete hardware issue 'cause I obviously won't have any warranty.
My question(s) are:
Can you navigate through the phone and within the apps itself using only the physical buttons?
If I try to replace a digitizer with the ones on ebay for 30-40, do these need soldering? Has anyone had any success trying these? I'm aware that may not completely resolve the issue.
Will t-mobile (my carrier) provide me with an unlock code?
If I flash it with android do all the features of the phone work? WiFi, sound, camera, etc?
khanvict85 said:
Can you navigate through the phone and within the apps itself using only the physical buttons?
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No.there are no up down left or right buttons.
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khanvict85 said:
I am purchasing an hd2 that has a non-responsive touch screen (not cracked/broken) from someone off of craigslist. I'm willing to take a chance and hope i'm lucky enough that it's not a complete hardware issue 'cause I obviously won't have any warranty.
My question(s) are:
Can you navigate through the phone and within the apps itself using only the physical buttons?
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As Samsamuel said no there is no navigation buttons on the HD2, you have to use the touch screen.
khanvict85 said:
If I try to replace a digitizer with the ones on ebay for 30-40, do these need soldering? Has anyone had any success trying these? I'm aware that may not completely resolve the issue.
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I have not checked out the digitizers you refered to on Ebay but I would suggest you buy a LCD digitizer assembly already together tbat requires no soldering. This will allow one much easier instalation and replace both major parts that have to work to solve your problem. So you should be assured you will fix the problem.
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Will t-mobile (my carrier) provide me with an unlock code?
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Yes if you are currently a T-Mobile costumer they will must likely give you the unlock code, but you have to contact them.
khanvict85 said:
If I flash it with android do all the features of the phone work? WiFi, sound, camera, etc?
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Yes on just about all NAND Andriod ROMs for the HD2 have everything functioning with only very minor things being buggy.
T-Macgnolia said:
As Samsamuel said no there is no navigation buttons on the HD2, you have to use the touch screen.
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i find this kind of odd. most electronics used to be configured where if you couldn't access the primary input there was always a secondary option...kind of like how if your mouse wasnt working, you can still do everything with a keyboard. granted, this isn't in the same category but engineering has definitely fallen off in the way of profits as opposed to proper functionality these days.
i came across this piece of software called 'mymobilizer' which lets you control and see the device and its screen from a computer. i installed but i can't connect because it requires an authentication on the device (press ok to allow or cancel to deny) and i was hoping the home, windows, or call key would act as an enter but unfortunately no. that would have at least given me some kind of flexibility to at least play around with it in it's current state and i was so close yet so far...
are there any other softwares just like this?
I have not checked out the digitizers you refered to on Ebay but I would suggest you buy a LCD digitizer assembly already together tbat requires no soldering. This will allow one much easier instalation and replace both major parts that have to work to solve your problem. So you should be assured you will fix the problem.
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http://www.dinodirect.com/ProductReviews/ProductID-408569.html
^ here's an example of what i'm referring to.
i dont think (or hope) that it needs a new lens since it looks to be in good shape and the t-mobile US HD2s digitizers don't require soldering from what i've been reading so is it a matter of simply unplugging it from the ribbon or what have you and inserting/plugging the replacement back in?
are there any good guides that focus just on the screen/digitizer disassembly and replacement? I saw that one video on youtube but it's not really a great step by step tutorial.
Yes on just about all NAND Andriod ROMs for the HD2 have everything functioning with only very minor things being buggy.
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i currently only have a 1gb sd card on me, is it possible to install android from a card with that little capacity? i was reading one where the minimum requirement was 4gb.
If you buy the one on craiglist I wouldn't worry about SD card size as with a dead screen you won't be doing much with it except for use as door wedge perhaps.
dead screens are normally a hardware issue stripping the HD2 is not the simplest plus eBay screen parts are cheap poor quality junk.
If buyining a used HD2 you need to buy a good one & preferably a revision moel with the yellow reset button.
khanvict85 said:
i find this kind of odd. most electronics used to be configured where if you couldn't access the primary input there was always a secondary option...kind of like how if your mouse wasnt working, you can still do everything with a keyboard. granted, this isn't in the same category but engineering has definitely fallen off in the way of profits as opposed to proper functionality these days.
i came across this piece of software called 'mymobilizer' which lets you control and see the device and its screen from a computer. i installed but i can't connect because it requires an authentication on the device (press ok to allow or cancel to deny) and i was hoping the home, windows, or call key would act as an enter but unfortunately no. that would have at least given me some kind of flexibility to at least play around with it in it's current state and i was so close yet so far...
are there any other softwares just like this?
http://www.dinodirect.com/ProductReviews/ProductID-408569.html
^ here's an example of what i'm referring to.
i dont think (or hope) that it needs a new lens since it looks to be in good shape and the t-mobile US HD2s digitizers don't require soldering from what i've been reading so is it a matter of simply unplugging it from the ribbon or what have you and inserting/plugging the replacement back in?
are there any good guides that focus just on the screen/digitizer disassembly and replacement? I saw that one video on youtube but it's not really a great step by step tutorial.
i currently only have a 1gb sd card on me, is it possible to install android from a card with that little capacity? i was reading one where the minimum requirement was 4gb.
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Yeah I agree have traded functionality for profits to a certain extent. And I agree not having any kind of control with any external buttons is a drag, bit it is a all touch screen device.The link you posted shows a LCD and digitizer wich is what I was talking about and yes this kind is the solderless kind that just plugs into the mainboard. I personally have not done it but I have read about people that have and watch a video or two.
As far as a spacific video to watch I really don't have one to suggest but seach YouTube really good you should find something that will help you out.
Now on the SD card I would get atleast a 2GB to 4GB.
The link is just the digitizer.

SD degradation

QQ; does SD performance degrade over time? I've noticed big media files (~500MB) I save to my SD is taking longer and longer to transfer.
I might also need to reformat my PC, but I wanted to be sure.
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Hobbes2099 said:
QQ; does SD performance degrade over time? I've noticed big media files (~500MB) I save to my SD is taking longer and longer to transfer.
I might also need to reformat my PC, but I wanted to be sure.
Thanks,
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SD cards allow a certain number of reads/writes before they start losing performance, it's only normal!
hehe what's up with degradation threads, what's next?
Clean it up.. as SD's fill they become slower.
A back up what you need and format
riginal said:
hehe what's up with degradation threads, what's next?
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hehehehehe!
It's natural, most of our X10s are now old enough to start showing symptoms
of old age! Geriatrics anyone?
I love it that some people have money to throw at new phones and can replace things at any time.
I have several of my old phones and electronic devices. if you take care of your technology it will take care of you.
It's true.. things do degrade but not after a single year unless you use it aggressively.
OmegaRED^ said:
I love it that some people have money to throw at new phones and can replace things at any time.
I have several of my old phones and electronic devices. if you take care of your technology it will take care of you.
It's true.. things do degrade but not after a single year unless you use it aggressively.
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Yeah, I agree.
But it all depends on build quality and especially as far as SD cards
are concerned, some are just faulty from the beginning.
I've noticed that some Transcend ones look like a cheap-knockoff of themselves
(even though I always buy from legitimate stores with physical presence, not from eBay for example)
and gave me problems very soon, had to format them pretty often
to work right. On the opposite side, Kingston seem to be durable and more reliable.
My_Immortal said:
Yeah, I agree.
But it all depends on build quality and especially as far as SD cards
are concerned, some are just faulty from the beginning.
I've noticed that some Transcend ones look like a cheap-knockoff of themselves
(even though I always buy from legitimate stores with physical presence, not from eBay for example)
and gave me problems very soon, had to format them pretty often
to work right. On the opposite side, Kingston seem to be durable and more reliable.
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So true.. you buy crap you get crap.
In the X10's case you payed for gold but you got silver.
I think the ideal thing to do, like OmegaRED said, is clean the SD up.
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If you cannot backup and format your card, you can move some big files elsewhere, increase the SD Cache amount and run the Windows Defrag (mounting your phone or card in a computer). I'm sure your card will be very faster!
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.... but a full SD is always a slow SD.

Hardware hack to add sdcard support?

I wonder if anyone's looked in to this? Could be huge - most of us have a dead simcard slot - I wonder if there's a way to hack in an sdcard reader to the hardware?
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
RojasTKD said:
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
coolhand83 said:
He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
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Yes, I misunderstood... my apologies.
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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tekowalsky said:
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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you would probably need to create 5v first. the touchpad I think runs off something like 3v. while I seems like a good idea to hack in a card reader,my feeling is not to.worry until you in out of memory. a better idea might be a device stuck to the back containing a extra battery and a card.reader. It would make the tablet thicker but increase battery life and provide plenty of storageas well as providing the power needed for the reader.
PA49 said:
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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LateralOctober said:
This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
pa49 said:
Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Do you have a link?
LateralOctober said:
Do you have a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
pa49 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
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Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
RojasTKD said:
Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
pa49 said:
Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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I don't have a problem...
1. I didn't see where he asked about it... my apologies there.
2. Just pointing out the limited usefulness compared to the SD card solution.
I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Personally I think the best solution would have been if HP would of just included an SD or MicroSD card. It drive me nuts when manufacturers mimic the apple model and give you less option and features as if that will equal success (looking at you Touchpad and GalaxyTab 10.1).
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
r00tb33r said:
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
RojasTKD said:
Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Technically a TouchPad without hardware damage is unbrickable, USB is connected to CPU so you could always push a boot image to RAM.
You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
Which brings us to the next question, can we have an application to access our Palm accounts from Android?
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You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
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But I like local storage. I rather have my music on my SD card. There are some picture I'd also like to have on my device locally. Same with documents and a variety of other thing. I don't have to have everything on there, but there are something I would like to have. Not to mention that being a WiFi device I can't always have access to cloud storage.
There is room for both in my opinion.
OK, I'm done... back to you regularly scheduled thread.
ive been curious about this since i got mine, but i have a 32gb, so its never really been a project in the front of my mind...imma take a look at the whitesheets and teardowns (cuz i dont wanna open mine if SD isnt possible ) and see if there are even pins for data available, but im pretty sure there isnt, which would also explain why devs are working on getting OTG running

micros SD card

Since the J Butterfly has a micro SD slot, I'm guessing the DNA has the internal connections for a slot. Can anyone verify this? Might someone be able to develop a hardware hack to add in an internal micro SD card?
I'm anxiously waiting for the tear-down of this phone
No the internals are different that's why the DNA isn't waterproof and it hasn't got a sd card slot it also supports wireless charging which I don't think the j butterfly has.
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aliHTCDHD said:
No the internals are different that's why the DNA isn't waterproof and it hasn't got a sd card slot it also supports wireless charging which I don't think the j butterfly has.
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According to the Enganet review it is:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/16/htc-droid-dna-review/
"We noticed another small quirk soon after unboxing the phone: the micro-USB / MHL port on the bottom is covered by a plastic flap that takes more effort to snap closed than it should. According to HTC, this was done to keep the phone splash-resistant, in exactly the same manner as the J Butterfly. As we've seen on the majority of Japanese phones in the past, carriers in that country have particularly high standards when it comes to protecting devices from water, so HTC and Verizon chose to adopt those standards for the DNA."
According to this the DNA is no less "waterproof" than the J Butterfly is.
How similar the internals are is anyon'e guess until the device is torn down.
Wot-75 said:
According to the Enganet review it is:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/16/htc-droid-dna-review/
"We noticed another small quirk soon after unboxing the phone: the micro-USB / MHL port on the bottom is covered by a plastic flap that takes more effort to snap closed than it should. According to HTC, this was done to keep the phone splash-resistant, in exactly the same manner as the J Butterfly. As we've seen on the majority of Japanese phones in the past, carriers in that country have particularly high standards when it comes to protecting devices from water, so HTC and Verizon chose to adopt those standards for the DNA."
According to this the DNA is no less "waterproof" than the J Butterfly is.
How similar the internals are is anyon'e guess until the device is torn down.
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the j butterfly has IPX5 rating for waterproofness, which the dna does not, or at least hasn't been listed/officially mentioned
It's likely the same board as the butterfly - meaning if the slot isn't there, the pins for it will be and it could be possible to solder one in. Not sure if the driver would be there etc but since the phone is already rooted, I wouldn't be surprised if people found a way to do this.
That said, I wouldn't buy the phone assuming this is true. And soldering on something like this isn't for everyone, and everything might be so compact there's no way you could do it by hand.
Bigandrewgold said:
the j butterfly has IPX5 rating for waterproofness, which the dna does not, or at least hasn't been listed/officially mentioned
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Lots of sites claiming it does... however not sure what they are using for source/reference materials. It would make sense that it does... but I guess we will know for sure soon enough.
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Lots of sites claiming it does... however not sure what they are using for source/reference materials. It would make sense that it does... but I guess we will know for sure soon enough.
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well considering neither htc's site or verizons says anything about it I'm gonna go with the fact that it doesnt have since being waterproof/resistant should be a pretty big feature, not something they dont mention
Most of the places that say it has ipx5 are basing it off the butterfly and assuming the phones are the exact same.
right
Exactly !
But the waterproof come from case not from PCB and for sure that there in is an hided micro sd slot, i can bet for that.
Bigandrewgold said:
well considering neither htc's site or verizons says anything about it I'm gonna go with the fact that it doesnt have since being waterproof/resistant should be a pretty big feature, not something they dont mention
Most of the places that say it has ipx5 are basing it off the butterfly and assuming the phones are the exact same.
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still waiting....
I still waiting for teardown of this phone here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/
Can anyone please test if the device can read from an all-in-one memory card reader over a micro usb OTG adapter?
I'm waiting for my phone to get here, trying to see if I can hook it up and see how it handles multiple devices when I get it.
Tear-down
Tear-down at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-droid-dna-general-discussion/230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
boushidosan said:
Can anyone please test if the device can read from an all-in-one memory card reader over a micro usb OTG adapter?
I'm waiting for my phone to get here, trying to see if I can hook it up and see how it handles multiple devices when I get it.
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I can confirm that it will accept card readers. I was able to plug in an eye-fi SD card reader and have it mount the card. However, it required power from an external source via a USB hub and Y-cable.
seedy oak said:
I can confirm that it will accept card readers. I was able to plug in an eye-fi SD card reader and have it mount the card. However, it required power from an external source via a USB hub and Y-cable.
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Has anyone hacked an otg cable for their dna to provide power to the dna while still working as otg?
Guys. the phones are nearly the same.
both phones are "waterproof" because they use the same source parts. the waterrproof factor comes from the case seal.
it is a silcone/rubber seal.
the parts difference is the simboard, which on the non-microSD we use MIcro-Sims,
and the other phones use Nano-sims, to fit the simcard AND mico SD in the same areas.
the SD slot on our phones CAN be used if you can do micro SMC soldering (think BGA)
but you will not be able to put the back on.
in case someone calls BS on me, I have this phone apart daily.
I used to do tear-downs phone soldering for a hobby, now i fix bricks.

[Q] Tablet Z SD card problem

Hi guys,
first thanks for your help with my previous problem.
Unfortunately another problem came up.
My SD card deleted one folder with videos. It was
pretty strange because I was watching one of them
and then I just went to homescreen and when I turned
the screen on again this folder with videos which was
on my sd card just disappeared. And even when I
connected the tablet with pc it wasnt there.
And also some spotify songs which were on it just
deleted themselves. I dont know if it is problem with
the sd card or with my device or it just can happen.
The format of those videos was mp4 and I was using
the MX player.
Do you know what it might be?
Could it be a virus?
Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
Djhg2000 said:
Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
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I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
Charll13 said:
I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
Charll13 said:
Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
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No it really won't technically be a good quality card unless its one of the big OEMs and even then there are bad quality cards from them.
If its a no name card then it doesn't matter what they said the specs are, it is most likely a cheaply made card that is going to run into significant issues. The upside of Sandisc or PNY is they have a replacement guarantee as long as its a manufacturers defect, most no name or off brand cards don't have any kind of warranty
And not trying to burst your bubble but just because you paid a certain price doesn't mean that it will make the card better, I have learned my lesson the hard way with such things.
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