I have an x10a, and I have for a while. But, its getting old, and boring. I wanted to spice it up with a custom ROM, namely Cyanogenmod. But going through the steps, xflashtool doesn't seem to want to play ball, informing me that "Your phone bootloader cannot be officially unlocked".
I've flashed it before, but only back to stock. This time I want something new.
Now, I've googled around and I've found a few pieces of information about this, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing very in-depth.
I need to know;
- Does this mean that my attempts at a custom ROM are just at a halt completely? Too bad for me, try a different phone?
- If not, can I force the bootloader to be unlocked, and will it remove my ability to use the radio capability in the phone? (as I have read in a few places now), because my phone isn't a lot of good without the ability to do phone things.
- If I can force it, how, and are there any downsides?
and bonus round;
- Why are there certain phones that just can't have the bootloader unlocked.
Cheers in advance guys, I'd really like to hear some good news about this, but anything is better than what I have at this point.
AzzaMan said:
I have an x10a, and I have for a while. But, its getting old, and boring. I wanted to spice it up with a custom ROM, namely Cyanogenmod. But going through the steps, xflashtool doesn't seem to want to play ball, informing me that "Your phone bootloader cannot be officially unlocked".
I've flashed it before, but only back to stock. This time I want something new.
Now, I've googled around and I've found a few pieces of information about this, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing very in-depth.
I need to know;
- Does this mean that my attempts at a custom ROM are just at a halt completely? Too bad for me, try a different phone?
- If not, can I force the bootloader to be unlocked, and will it remove my ability to use the radio capability in the phone? (as I have read in a few places now), because my phone isn't a lot of good without the ability to do phone things.
- If I can force it, how, and are there any downsides?
and bonus round;
- Why are there certain phones that just can't have the bootloader unlocked.
Cheers in advance guys, I'd really like to hear some good news about this, but anything is better than what I have at this point.
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1st: you still can flash custom rom, look for the one that have stated (for locked bootloader)
2nd: yes you can, there is testpoint method (correct me If I'm wrong)
3rd: no afaik
Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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TakuyaZ said:
1st: you still can flash custom rom, look for the one that have stated (for locked bootloader)
2nd: yes you can, there is testpoint method (correct me If I'm wrong)
3rd: no afaik
Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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Champion. Cheers for the lightning fast reply, didn't expect to hear back for a day or two. I'm gonna begin my search for a copy of cyanogenmod for x10's that are for locked bootloaders. This should be fun
AzzaMan said:
Champion. Cheers for the lightning fast reply, didn't expect to hear back for a day or two. I'm gonna begin my search for a copy of cyanogenmod for x10's that are for locked bootloaders. This should be fun
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Cyanogen mod cant be installed in locked bootloader, due to cm require an custom kernel
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TakuyaZ said:
Cyanogen mod cant be installed in locked bootloader, due to cm require an custom kernel
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Damn it... Any suggestions for a good alternative? I'd like something either really fancy, or really low RAM and Battery usage.
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Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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My X10i is carrirer locked, and I could unlock the boot loader without any problems.
The problem with those who lose their radio capability, is, as I suspect it to be, because they tried SIM-unlock their devices with third party methods in a way that are not supposed to be done. (A "bad" hack method of some kind). Once they unlock the boot loader, they lose that poor third party hack, and the device reverts back to a SIM-locked state. Since most of the people who do SIM-unlock their devices, uses a different carrier, will also lose the radio because of the carrier/SIM lock.
One can safely unlock the boot loader if:
* The device remains SIM-locked and haven't been touched by poor, unknown SIM-lock hacks.
* The device isn't SIM-locked in the first place. (Device was delivered in an unlocked state)
* The device is SIM-unlocked with the proper method, where one get proper unlock codes from their original carrier matched with the IMEI code.
SysGhost said:
One can safely unlock the boot loader if:
* The device remains SIM-locked and haven't been touched by poor, unknown SIM-lock hacks.
* The device isn't SIM-locked in the first place. (Device was delivered in an unlocked state)
* The device is SIM-unlocked with the proper method, where one get proper unlock codes from their original carrier matched with the IMEI code.
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My phone was delivered locked to... Vodaphone? I think. I unlocked it a long time ago. But, I unlocked it by given them my IMEI, and getting the unlock code from them. So, as legit as it gets really. I am still not allowed to just unlock my bootloader. Based on what I've seen in this thread, and a couple of other places, if I force the bootloader to unlock by "less sturdy" means, I should be fine with my sim-unlock, or be able to just contact them again and get a new unlock code.
So, this Testpoint method that TakuyaZ mentioned, anyone able to point me in the right direction for that or an alternative? I can't seem to find a decent tutorial anywhere.
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My phone was delivered locked to... Vodaphone? I think. I unlocked it a long time ago. But, I unlocked it by given them my IMEI, and getting the unlock code from them. So, as legit as it gets really. I am still not allowed to just unlock my bootloader. Based on what I've seen in this thread, and a couple of other places, if I force the bootloader to unlock by "less sturdy" means, I should be fine with my sim-unlock, or be able to just contact them again and get a new unlock code.
So, this Testpoint method that TakuyaZ mentioned, anyone able to point me in the right direction for that or an alternative? I can't seem to find a decent tutorial anywhere.
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What method did you try to unlock the bootloader with? As far as I know your SIM-unlocked status shouldn't be affected at all, as it is properly unlocked, with the radio accepting all carriers. (Radio part of the device is semi-isolated from the rest of the system)
Try this method, and you should be fine: (But I cannot promise anything. If you do try it, you're on your own.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
It's the method I used on a few X10i devices. Works on SIM-locked devices (They'll remain SIM-locked after, as it should be), as well as unlocked devices that previosly has been SIM-locked, but unlocked with the proper codes from the carrier. They remained SIM-unlocked after unlocking the boot loader. Good news that is.
So if you really know that your device has been properly SIM-unlocked with codes delivered from the carrier that locked the device in the first place, you should be fine. A.f.a.i.k, the only ones that lost their radio on their devices, are the ones who used improper third party hacking methods to SIM-unlock their devices.
Warning: If you are not 100% sure about what method that has been used to SIM-unlock your device. Stop. And turn back.
Alright, attempting the method posted above, I have hit a snag. I then proceeded to hit the same snag over and over again, trying minutely different methods.
My problem is with the qsd8250_semc tool.
The most I can get out of it is;
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Process requires standard 2.x android firmware.
Press any key to continue...
Getting ROOT rights.
error: protocol fault (no status)
error: device not found
error: device not found.
Waiting...
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Any suggestions? At this point I've tried the methods listed on the sites below, but nothing is working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
http://www.modaco.com/topic/346145-how-toguideunlock-x10-bootloader-permanently/
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Alright, attempting the method posted above, I have hit a snag. I then proceeded to hit the same snag over and over again, trying minutely different methods.
My problem is with the qsd8250_semc tool.
The most I can get out of it is;
"
Process requires standard 2.x android firmware.
Press any key to continue...
Getting ROOT rights.
error: protocol fault (no status)
error: device not found
error: device not found.
Waiting...
"
Any suggestions? At this point I've tried the methods listed on the sites below, but nothing is working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
http://www.modaco.com/topic/346145-how-toguideunlock-x10-bootloader-permanently/
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Did you try with Flashtool? Don't use the newest version, you need 0.9.10 release. From http://androxyde.github.io/ There is a thread on here some where ill inbox you the link if I find it.
But it is easy as to do. By memory I think you click the padlock in flashtool to root phone then click on the plugins and you have the option to unlock boot loader with a click. Not sure if you have to add recovery first? Get the older version of flashtool though.
I'm sure someone will remember and help :good:
Found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254087
Hey mate this is the thread I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821750
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Did you try with Flashtool? Don't use the newest version, you need 0.9.10 release. From http://androxyde.github.io/ There is a thread on here some where ill inbox you the link if I find it.
But it is easy as to do. By memory I think you click the padlock in flashtool to root phone then click on the plugins and you have the option to unlock boot loader with a click. Not sure if you have to add recovery first? Get the older version of flashtool though.
I'm sure someone will remember and help :good:
Found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254087
Hey mate this is the thread I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821750
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The only things needed on the X10 part is it to have original (Stock) firmware with Android 2.1 or 2.2, with the original 2.6.29 kernel.
Also one need to enable debugging over USB (Debug Bridge) in the developer settings. And lastly need the drivers installed if using Windows. (Which I assume is the case here)
Once that's done, it should all work.
I've written a Linux script if anyone needs it. Still need the other files from the original qsd8250.7z toolset from the_laser's thread. See attached files.
Place qsd8250_semc.bash in the same director as qsd8250_semc.cmd, then execute it.
One also need Linux-version of the adb command, and in the system PATH variable.
Related
We can no longer unlock your bootloader with codes. Please do not ask me or ash for bootloader unlock codes. We can not help you.
This thread is now here for historical purposes representing times when people were free to do what they wanted with their devices. Fsck yourself with a rake, Verizon.
The bootloader has been unlocked. Let's get our freaking root on.
Disclaimer: Read through these instructions in their entirety. If these don't make sense to you, you do not need to be rooting your phone. Nobody here has the time required to teach you how to use cmd in Windows. We will not baby step you through how to use ClockworkMod Recovery. Root is not a mythical land with fairies and unicorns where nothing ever goes bad. If you don't know how to properly install a driver in Windows, you probably don't need an Android device to begin with, let alone a rooted one.
These instructions are intentionally left vague. Do your research on these terms. Understand what you are doing before you do it.
tldr: if you fsck your phone up, it's on you and only you.
Easy Way (YRMV!)
This is by far the easiest method. You will have to read between the lines here. I will not detail all the steps. Please record your experiences in this thread and let me know how it all goes! We're all still learning. This is basically copied from Bin4ry's CWMR Thread so thanks go to him! The easy steps below assume a lot of basic knowledge steps. Like unlocking the bootloader. If you're unsure of what to do, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
Download the CWM recovery from multiupload
Boot off of that file (DO NOT FLASH): fastboot boot recoveryPLAY.img
Copy this to your memory card and flash it with the booted recovery
Reboot and test root
Second Method: Advanced User Instructions
Unlock your bootloader. Check out Ash's thread: thread
Download Doom's all in one kernel from here
Use fastboot to "hot boot" the kernel: fastboot boot boot.img
Your phone may or may not boot. It doesn't matter. Let it be for a while, then power it off.
Doom's kernel will have rooted your stock system.
If You're On A Mac...
Or maybe just need some general help with some more detailed insturctions than are labeled here, check out the awesome post that Cubsfan3493 made for everyone. He's even got a downloadable PDF with pictures. Go give him some thanks at his post!
Is the R800x running 2.3.2 or 2.3.3. There's reports that Gingerbreak and alternatives are no longer working in 2.3.3.
It's running 2.3.2 right now. OTA updates say its up to date. I'm trying to figure out if I'm just having a generic issue with the breaks (like memory cards for example) or if Verizon maybe patched the exploit in their 2.3.2 build.
I have tried pretty much everything as well, I really hope some dev's start to pop their noises in here as I am a bit sad about the activity so far
I've been trying to root mine as well. The discussion I've been having is in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097856
I'll keep an eye on both threads, but I have had no luck so far.
I'm guessing it's something they fixed in the final Verizon build before release. Curious... What's your build #? Mine is 3.0.A.2.184.
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axiomjunglist said:
I'm guessing it's something they fixed in the final Verizon build before release. Curious... What's your build #? Mine is 3.0.A.2.184.
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Yes i think verizon fixed the exploit gingerbreak uses before releasing the handset in the usa. When i was on build number 3.0.A.2.184 (uk xplay R800i) it rooted in like 30 seconds.
But in the new update 3.0.1.A.0.145 the exploit has been fixed. So all devices around the world have been left unrootable (for now ) the devs will figure away out.
I think the uk version 2.3.3 build 3.0.1.A.0.145 has been rooted (for unlocked bootladers) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098736 So if your bootloader is unlocked soon it maybe possible. If its locked your stuck waiting with the rest of us for a rooting method on locked devices.
I saw you updated from another post, did you lose root access after the update?
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axiomjunglist said:
I'm guessing it's something they fixed in the final Verizon build before release. Curious... What's your build #? Mine is 3.0.A.2.184.
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build number - 3.0.E.2.89
A shame they didn't let us all have unlocked bootloaders.
axiomjunglist said:
I saw you updated from another post, did you lose root access after the update?
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Yes i did. But the fixes added in the update are worth loosing root, for the time being . Being unable to root only applies to people with a locked bootloader. But im guessing devs from the arc and play forum are possibly looking for ways to root with a locked bootloader
Yeah I have the option to unlock my bootloader but don't want to just yet. I'll hold off on the update until a new version of gingerbreak arrives
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For the record, it seems like the bootloader is unlockable on the R800x. Fastboot is totally accessible by the same means and the oem unlock command is recognized, the phone is responsive, it's just looking for a key, the same as the GSM counterpart. The only difference is that the Verizon version doesn't have an IMEI (or does it.... since it does have a sim card slot....), just an ESN. So obviously you can't obtain an unlock key from this number.
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For the record, it seems like the bootloader is unlockable on the R800x. Fastboot is totally accessible by the same means and the oem unlock command is recognized, the phone is responsive, it's just looking for a key, the same as the GSM counterpart. The only difference is that the Verizon version doesn't have an IMEI (or does it.... since it does have a sim card slot....), just an ESN. So obviously you can't obtain an unlock key from this number.
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Wonder if you pop a pre-paid SIM in the slot (or try a friend's AT&T/T-Mobile SIM) and disabled the CDMA radio if you could get an IMEI to pop up on the keypad using *#06#. Might work? I have no clue... and you'd still have to send it to SE and hope they clear it.
I have a few SIMs here that I could try. Ill see what I come up with in a little bit. My gut is telling me that Verizon probably has the SIM slot firmware disabled. Thats only because they havn't officially mentioned it anywhere. In fact, the slot itself is actually hidden by a piece of plastic that you have to remove. One wouldnt have any idea it was there unless you were looking for it and even then you feel like you're breaking your phone to access it.
I also considered hooking it up to QPST to see if it would grab some serial numbers out of the device. Can anyone confirm if this is a qualcomm chip inside the phone?
I just tried a T-mo and an AT&T SIM, neither give me any sort of insertion notification or acknowledgement that they are present. So I'd say the slot is firmware disabled. But it should still have an IMEI, right? That would be programmed by Qualcomm out of the factory before Ericsson would have even installed it. Or am I taking crazy pills?
do a ADB devices on your phone it gives what I think is a IMEI number and if you put the first 14 in on sony's site it gives you a unlock code, i am to much of a wussy to try it tho lol.
b00sted said:
do a ADB devices on your phone it gives what I think is a IMEI number and if you put the first 14 in on sony's site it gives you a unlock code, i am to much of a wussy to try it tho lol.
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more than willing to be take a chance on mine. i ran adb devices. got code. first 14 digits (minus the b) sent to sony and got an unlock code.
next steps i'm confused on. how do i boot to fastboot mode? i tried holding menu key and inserting usb... didnt' seem to do anything...
ran
9. In the cmd windows type in fastboot.exe -i 0x0fce getvar version
and it did nothing just sat there (waiting for device).
Is there an indication you are in fastboot mode? should 0fce be different on our phones? any ideas?
EDIT: its hold search, not menu, got it to fastboot mode and got response.. trying now. will post results
EDIT 2 : and fail.
ace518 said:
more than willing to be take a chance on mine. i ran adb devices. got code. first 14 digits (minus the b) sent to sony and got an unlock code.
next steps i'm confused on. how do i boot to fastboot mode? i tried holding menu key and inserting usb... didnt' seem to do anything...
ran
9. In the cmd windows type in fastboot.exe -i 0x0fce getvar version
and it did nothing just sat there (waiting for device).
Is there an indication you are in fastboot mode? should 0fce be different on our phones? any ideas?
EDIT: its hold search, not menu, got it to fastboot mode and got response.. trying now. will post results
EDIT 2 : and fail.
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ya I just tried too and fail :/ #sadpanda
Neither the adb devices nor the fastboot devices codes have anything to do with the IMEI number.
Enviado desde mi R800i usando Tapatalk
I am willing to donate towards the first person that can get root and CWM on this!
I recently unlocked my phone and rooted, I tried to flash CM7 Beta everything went well except when i rebooted it got stuck at the dual core screen. After trying everything, I decided to flash back to stock since cm7 wouldn't boot. My question is now that I flashed back to stock do I need to re-unlock my device? Does it stay unlocked? Can I just root it and retry CM7 again?
it happens to me too im reading on the forum but i dont think the bootloaders remain unlock cuz when u do the process it say that in the warnings
No one knows?
I read that once you unlocked you are unlocked forever because when you unlock it kills a fuse but you can cover up the 'unlocked' message so the average joe (such as ATT or Best Buy employee) wouldn't know you unlocked for insurance purposes.
I've also read posts though, like you, that state that it does re-lock the bootloader, so I am confused! I dont want to try flashing again though and end up with a hard-brick!
only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
before installing any custom roms you need to do a backup. after that, do a full wipe/factory reset, wipe cache & wipe dalvik cache. then install your custom rom, reboot, wait anything up to 10 minutes, and voila!
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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konna280 said:
only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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Might want to do some reading and research. This has all been discussed previously in a couple of threads with links supporting a hardware unlock. Nobody has provided any proof of a software only unlock as of yet. Would appreciate if you posted where you got your information.
Cheers!
konna280 said:
only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
before installing any custom roms you need to do a backup. after that, do a full wipe/factory reset, wipe cache & wipe dalvik cache. then install your custom rom, reboot, wait anything up to 10 minutes, and voila!
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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Can you provide a link that this is indeed a software lock?...
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CaelanT said:
Might want to do some reading and research. This has all been discussed previously in a couple of threads with links supporting a hardware unlock. Nobody has provided any proof of a software only unlock as of yet. Would appreciate if you posted where you got your information.
Cheers!
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Sorry, when i say software based i mean the use of software (using programs to flash files) to modify hardware. hardware based unlocking would mean having to modify hardware, such as soldering or other means of modifying/replacing components.
konna280 said:
Sorry, when i say software based i mean the use of software (using programs to flash files) to modify hardware. hardware based unlocking would mean having to modify hardware, such as soldering or other means of modifying/replacing components.
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Soo..
You start a new thread about a topic that already has 17 threads dedicated to it.
You clearly dont understand how the current unlocking process works.
You claim to know of a new sw unlock, but even after being asked a few times will not elaborate or give a link or other info about it.
And your making up your own terms depending on what makes sence to you.
That settles it. You win the lolthread of the day, and were not laughing with you.
let's simplify:
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader
This unlocks the bootloader through the use of software, does it not?
http://tinyurl.com/6gwycaq (explains what a bootloader is)
Plus... I didn't start the thread. You might need to do a little reading on that.
I've clearly unlocked, rooted, and installed a new ROM on my atrix (i initially used the gingerbreak app to root it, but decided to change the ROM at a later date, so unlocked it fully)
I don't claim to know of a sw unlock. I merely stated that software is used (RSD lite, drivers etc) to carry out the unlocking procedure.
Oh, by the way, it's "WE'RE not laughing with you" (not very nice ) and "YOU'RE making up your own terms". Little bit of research for you, if you want
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theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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I think you're mistaken, it's a hardware lock. There has not been a software only solution shown. Since I have gone through the steps you described, and then re-unlocked my bootloader, the two processes were different (unlocking vs. re-unlocking), meaning that something changed when I unlocked the bootloader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifuse#Antifuses_in_integrated_circuits
Trust me, this stuff is in all the ICs that you use.
Ok then, i apologize for not doing my research
I just ASS-U-MEd that if it can be re-locked then there is no modification taking place to the hardware itself (such as blown fuses - I'll admit though I only recently heard about eFuse's/Antifuse's as I've never dealt with them before, and therefore didn't know that the Atrix had them)
Thanks for the info.
lockety lock lock lock Lmfao
Im still laughing. No apostraphes needed.
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Im still laughing. No apostraphes needed.
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nvm lol
10char
reunlocking is the same presedure which you did before. just you dont need to do the fastboot unlock oem.i did it and reunlock 2.3.4 telstra
i have a rooted Xperia mini Pro, make it unlocked bootloader to install roms?
and which is the best ICS rom available now,
service info show, BOOTLOADER CAN BE UNLOCKED:YES
wat does that mean ?
it means you can actually unlock your bootloader (unlocking bootloader allows you to install non-official roms)
i use fxp v.105, but it still need some fixes (hw kb and 3g data doesnt work, some wifi issues etc)
bokrug said:
it means you can actually unlock your bootloader (unlocking bootloader allows you to install non-official roms)
i use fxp v.105, but it still need some fixes (hw kb and 3g data doesnt work, some wifi issues etc)
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how to do unlock, and i read that TRACK ID goes if i unlock, or is there any other way to keep it and the DRM so that i could have official ICS when SE releases it
theres some nice howto on cyanogenmod wiki: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_Mini_Pro:_Full_Update_Guide
but i really dont know what Will happen with track Id (whats that btw?) and if you'd be able to upgrade official way thereafter
you wont be able to update offically. trackID is a se service used to identify playing music tracks.
i see... you could use shazam instead of track id, i think its more widely used; for me, update wont be a problem, i believe in community and will continue to use cyanogenmod
try to unlock bootloader using test point method..i think test point metod is best..u can find more about test point method here.
http://androidflip.com/test-points-...ia-arc-active-mini-mini-pro-neo-play-pro-ray/
sorry, but i really don't think it's the best method as he can easily brick his device if not done correctly
if i brick i'll b able to flash to stock , right ?
and thanks to others
If you're asking about testpoint method, i would rather avoid it - you could short-circuit something and won't be able to turn it on again, but maybe i'm just too cautious (and I never tried it). If I were you, stick to the howto on cyanogenmod wiki and you should be fine (just use cm version 7.1.0.1, the newest one didn't worked for me).
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If you're asking about testpoint method, i would rather avoid it - you could short-circuit something and won't be able to turn it on again, but maybe i'm just too cautious (and I never tried it). If I were you, stick to the howto on cyanogenmod wiki and you should be fine (just use cm version 7.1.0.1, the newest one didn't worked for me).
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my device is rooted, still didnt unlock bootloader, how can i install cyanagenmod ?
if you want to install cyanogenmod, you HAVE TO unlock bootloader; just choose the method of doing it (fastboot, testpoint or whatever else)
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if you want to install cyanogenmod, you HAVE TO unlock bootloader; just choose the method of doing it (fastboot, testpoint or whatever else)
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if i brick, i can do flash to a stock kernal isnt it ?
how to know my XMP bootloader can unlock or not? and what the advantage of unlocking bootloader?
faru123:
to brick means to make an expensive brick out of your working phone: it gets broken - it's definitely not you would like to do but it could happen, especially when following bad advices like shortcircuiting some pins.. you have to know what you want to do with your phone
about flashing to stock kernel, someone else have to answer, I'm not even sure where to get one
StereO_:
according to instructions on sony ericsson pages:
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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StereO_:
according to instructions on sony ericsson pages:
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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ok thx for da info, btw what the advantage of unlocking bootloader? and what should i do that?
with unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to run ROMs, which aren't digitally signed by sony ericsson (basically any rom downloadable here, like cyanogenmod)
by the last sentence you mean HOW to do that, or WHY? if you want to know how, just follow this (to only unlock, stick to the middle section, but do the backup also)
bokrug said:
with unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to run ROMs, which aren't digitally signed by sony ericsson (basically any rom downloadable here, like cyanogenmod)
by the last sentence you mean HOW to do that, or WHY? if you want to know how, just follow this (to only unlock, stick to the middle section, but do the backup also)
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ok thx for the info
no prob, if anything, just ask again; and if i helped you, please hit thanks button on my post!
ok, buddy, wat if i unloack normally, if something goes wrong , i can flash it to normal ROM isnt it ?
n tanx for everything till now
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
Maxxd01 said:
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
manilu001 said:
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
Maxxd01 said:
So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
Maxxd01 said:
So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Hi all,
I've read a couple of stickies, and been through quite a bit of threads here at XDA, and I still can't find my answer. I hope that this is the right place for questions, if not, please excuse my ignorance and move it to the correct forum.
Here's my problem:
I have an Xperia Mini Pro (SK17a), locked to Rogers. It's one of the phone models that don't have the ICS upgrade. Perhaps I can blame that on Rogers, but then again, I can blame a lot of things on Rogers. I've been waiting for the ICS upgrade for quite a while, and now I'm just going to take this into my own hands and install a custom rom.
My understanding of this is that unlocking the bootloader will make my life much easier, and it's what I intend to do. The thing is, I'm SIM-locked to that god-awful company Rogers. From my 'research', I've read a bunch of stories and stuff, but nothing that gives me a definite answer. Do I have to have my phone SIM-unlocked to unlock my bootloader? (For either the official SE unlocking service and Test Point method). Will SIM-Unlocking also sever any bonds that connect my phone to Rogers? If that's the case, then I might just be able to update via PC Companion, which I can settle for if it takes less work than unlocking the bootloader.
My efforts in trying to update via FlashTool (and the official ICS .ftf) were futile, resulting in Flashtool giving me an unsatisfactory "ERROR- Error flashing. Aborted", which I think may be because my bootloader is locked, or I'm SIM-locked to Rogers.
(Using the latest version of flashtool)
Currently, my phone is running the latest stock Gingerbread, with root and CWM.
This ties in nicely to my next question, regarding Recoverys.
When I read the thread pertaining to CWM on the Mini Pro, it said that it should only be installed on a stock rom. Would this mean that CWM isn't used with custom roms? I find this to be stupid, as then you wouldn't be able to access the Recovery menu when **** actually turns bad, and you've got to flash a stable rom in a pinch.
That's all for now, thanks in advance.
-Dillon
P.S.
I'm not too much of a noob, so I can understand all of this crazy Android lingo; I've rooted/installed custom roms on my fair share of devices. On the other hand, I'm no pro either.
I know that bumping is generally frowned upon, but I'm doing it in hopes that perhaps somebody that could answer my questions just missed my thread.
Again, my apologies.
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Same problem
Man I have the exacttt same problem and doubt as you do, specially about the SIM LOCK, I want ICS on my phone too, I have the same model. Have you gotten any answers?
well you can unlock your boot loader and install custom rom and after unlock you will unable to update through seus or pc companion until you relock the bl. i suggest u to use test point in this way you will not lose drm keys. and if there is a problem in network try different baseband.
Before unlocking bootloader you must remove sim-lock. Basically it comes down on buying sim unlock code.
DillonBladez said:
I know that bumping is generally frowned upon, but I'm doing it in hopes that perhaps somebody that could answer my questions just missed my thread.
Again, my apologies.
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I had no problems flashing ICS via flash tool on my then locked bootloader, sim locked device, so I'm thinking that's not the problem here.
Make sure you have installed the right drivers for your device, that it has usb debugging activated and that it is configured to msc (usb storage) when flashing.
Also, when I unlocked my bootloader via paid method (alejandrissimo) it also eliminated the sim lock :beer: I think it's part of the process. Anyway, maybe you could explain a little further about the error log you get on flash tool.
Don't forget to click thanks if I helped.
Edit: about cwm, of course you can use it on custom roms, some kernel even have that included. . First you install it on your stock ics and then you get to flash other roms.
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unforgiven1311 said:
I had no problems flashing ICS via flash tool on my then locked bootloader, sim locked device, so I'm thinking that's not the problem here.
Make sure you have installed the right drivers for your device, that it has usb debugging activated and that it is configured to msc (usb storage) when flashing.
Also, when I unlocked my bootloader via paid method (alejandrissimo) it also eliminated the sim lock :beer: I think it's part of the process. Anyway, maybe you could explain a little further about the error log you get on flash tool.
Don't forget to click thanks if I helped.
Edit: about cwm, of course you can use it on custom roms, some kernel even have that included. . First you install it on your stock ics and then you get to flash other roms.
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I have a sim locked phone and the bootloader can't be unlocked because my phone was made in 12w22. No test point and no sony options because the status of the bootloader says Bootloader status: no.
The question is: if i by a sim-unlock code the bootloader status turns to yes?
i really need to unlock bootloader because my battery is causing me nightmares!! thanks for the help. sorry for the bad english(or not) .I'm portuguese