I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
Maxxd01 said:
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
Maxxd01 said:
Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
manilu001 said:
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
Maxxd01 said:
So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Guys after working hundreds of hour , i have posted a guide to unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing DRM data.
it is 100% tested and working fine , i also tried cyanogenmod , MIUI and all working well
you can follow this guide :-
unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing drm data
This method is also applicable for other xperia devices , if you are using other xperia phone then find your phone's test point here :
Test Points for Xperia Devices – Xperia Arc / Active / Mini / Mini Pro / Neo / Play / Pro / Ray
if you like my work then hit thanks , i also appeal developers to post more info about it , as i am n00b
Yeah if you want to 100% void your warranty then do this. If you mess with the TA then you WILL void your warranty. Ok I did it with my ray ages ago and just did it with my play but SE have now made trackID that needed DRM keys to work now not need them. Head over to the play themes and apps section and it's there.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
veimus said:
Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
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You had to pay for it? . See I like the idea and if you know you won't break or brick the device then do it. But if you do hard flashing and drop your phone a lot then don't do it as it does void your warranty this way. Where we modify the TA area it is against the warranty and voids it. This is why I don't advise doing it if you are likely to need the warranty. But I will say now. If anyone has the play and wants to try this then it is actually quite tricky as it is underneath the battery and the battery need to be inserted. Also when removing the test point you can't remove the battery so..... Just pick the device up and hold the back button when removing the test point wire.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Blackwatch89 said:
You had to pay for it?
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to unlock bootloader you need fastboot - in branded/locked phone fastboot needs to be enabled via PAID hardware/software.
using this method, i was aware of the void the warranty
during the whole process i did not pulled out the battery
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
for custom kernel /overclocking / CM7 / MIUI etc
Bazonga said:
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
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for installing custom roms like - cyanogenmod and MIUI
and for installing custom kernels
O allrightt I thought that was also possible with locked bootloaders
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
[vertigo] said:
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
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yes you can unlock it usual way , infact peoples are using normal way to unlock bootloaders of Xperia phones
but if you don't want to lose track id like apps then use above posted method
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
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is not possible to unlock the bootloader without working fastboot mode
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
xperia ray said:
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
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but You can not unlock the bootloader without running fastboot mode in s1tool!
BL unlocked in program "s1tool" = he must have working fastboot mode so why he wrote: "I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot" ??
r33p said:
For all :
Hold volume up. Connect usb. Blue light? If yes bt unlock possible with s1tool.
If no you need to go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417
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And we have 2 programs in testpoint metod:
s1tool - free for unlock BL with working fastboot (Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes/ blue LED)
SETool2 - paid for locked phone for full unlock fastboot/bootloader/sim-lock!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
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i think its bull**** because "FlashTool" does the same thing (flash orginal 2.3.4 ROM) without unlocking the bootloader goodbye warranty
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
blue4you said:
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
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If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
veimus said:
If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
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veimus bro , is SEUS working fine for you ?
Actually i haven't tested it yet , But theoretically it should work
yes it works
followed the instructions and everyting works just fine. Thanks a lot.
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
Thorstenk said:
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
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First, this is ray forum
Second, try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126358
Third, remember if you are doing it with official method, you will never able to receive FOTA or SEUS update, you can, but only by flashing from xda.
So since we did the unofficial method, After we update through SEUS the bootloader is still unlocked?
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
hansip87 said:
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
yujin_11 said:
when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
hansip87 said:
You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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Veimus from original thread confirm that seus do works and he can reflash the gingerbread from seus. Sm gt should be ok with ics, And with Sony confirms mo changes hm kernel. I think it will be Rom update only.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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That's why you connect it to ground, silly! (The first two battery pins)
hansip87 said:
You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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yes i do, apparently i forgot to mention your last sentence. you've just beat me to it )
To reiterate for anybody's notice:
Bootloader unlock allowed: true
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means that you can unlock the bootloader, BUT it does not say if the bootloader is locked/unlocked already
i have a rooted Xperia mini Pro, make it unlocked bootloader to install roms?
and which is the best ICS rom available now,
service info show, BOOTLOADER CAN BE UNLOCKED:YES
wat does that mean ?
it means you can actually unlock your bootloader (unlocking bootloader allows you to install non-official roms)
i use fxp v.105, but it still need some fixes (hw kb and 3g data doesnt work, some wifi issues etc)
bokrug said:
it means you can actually unlock your bootloader (unlocking bootloader allows you to install non-official roms)
i use fxp v.105, but it still need some fixes (hw kb and 3g data doesnt work, some wifi issues etc)
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how to do unlock, and i read that TRACK ID goes if i unlock, or is there any other way to keep it and the DRM so that i could have official ICS when SE releases it
theres some nice howto on cyanogenmod wiki: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_Mini_Pro:_Full_Update_Guide
but i really dont know what Will happen with track Id (whats that btw?) and if you'd be able to upgrade official way thereafter
you wont be able to update offically. trackID is a se service used to identify playing music tracks.
i see... you could use shazam instead of track id, i think its more widely used; for me, update wont be a problem, i believe in community and will continue to use cyanogenmod
try to unlock bootloader using test point method..i think test point metod is best..u can find more about test point method here.
http://androidflip.com/test-points-...ia-arc-active-mini-mini-pro-neo-play-pro-ray/
sorry, but i really don't think it's the best method as he can easily brick his device if not done correctly
if i brick i'll b able to flash to stock , right ?
and thanks to others
If you're asking about testpoint method, i would rather avoid it - you could short-circuit something and won't be able to turn it on again, but maybe i'm just too cautious (and I never tried it). If I were you, stick to the howto on cyanogenmod wiki and you should be fine (just use cm version 7.1.0.1, the newest one didn't worked for me).
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If you're asking about testpoint method, i would rather avoid it - you could short-circuit something and won't be able to turn it on again, but maybe i'm just too cautious (and I never tried it). If I were you, stick to the howto on cyanogenmod wiki and you should be fine (just use cm version 7.1.0.1, the newest one didn't worked for me).
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my device is rooted, still didnt unlock bootloader, how can i install cyanagenmod ?
if you want to install cyanogenmod, you HAVE TO unlock bootloader; just choose the method of doing it (fastboot, testpoint or whatever else)
bokrug said:
if you want to install cyanogenmod, you HAVE TO unlock bootloader; just choose the method of doing it (fastboot, testpoint or whatever else)
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if i brick, i can do flash to a stock kernal isnt it ?
how to know my XMP bootloader can unlock or not? and what the advantage of unlocking bootloader?
faru123:
to brick means to make an expensive brick out of your working phone: it gets broken - it's definitely not you would like to do but it could happen, especially when following bad advices like shortcircuiting some pins.. you have to know what you want to do with your phone
about flashing to stock kernel, someone else have to answer, I'm not even sure where to get one
StereO_:
according to instructions on sony ericsson pages:
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
bokrug said:
StereO_:
according to instructions on sony ericsson pages:
First, you should confirm that it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your phone by checking the service menu. In your phone, open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
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ok thx for da info, btw what the advantage of unlocking bootloader? and what should i do that?
with unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to run ROMs, which aren't digitally signed by sony ericsson (basically any rom downloadable here, like cyanogenmod)
by the last sentence you mean HOW to do that, or WHY? if you want to know how, just follow this (to only unlock, stick to the middle section, but do the backup also)
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with unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to run ROMs, which aren't digitally signed by sony ericsson (basically any rom downloadable here, like cyanogenmod)
by the last sentence you mean HOW to do that, or WHY? if you want to know how, just follow this (to only unlock, stick to the middle section, but do the backup also)
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ok thx for the info
no prob, if anything, just ask again; and if i helped you, please hit thanks button on my post!
ok, buddy, wat if i unloack normally, if something goes wrong , i can flash it to normal ROM isnt it ?
n tanx for everything till now
I have read around but found no answer..
Some say its impossible some say its possible can some one tell me for sure if its possible and if it is how would I do it?
And in the service menu it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: No"
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
Lasy said:
used the GENERIC rom 042
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
and use omnius
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And how do i do that..
To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
Someguyfromhell said:
To flash other ROM, you can try WotanServer or Flashtool, last one requires correct files, WotanServer needs, that you only pick, which version of firmware you want(and free account).
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And i can do all that on stock mini?
Halv said:
And i can do all that on stock mini?
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Yes you can do it in stock with Wotan server but take into account that this process only changes the firmware version you are on for a generic one from se maybe a newer one but nothing more after this you still won't be able to flash custom kernels or roms unless you unlock your bootloader and fast boot.
You can try the unofficial way for the bootloader and it might work I cannot warranty it but it will not be that good as most of the roms need they own kernels and you will need access to fastboot mode to do that, unfortunately you need to completely unlock your phone either with omnius or setool to gain access to fastboot and this will cost you some money.
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
Seansmit17 said:
How can flashing that 042rom allow bootloader unlocking??
Just for the hell of it, i flashed my mini pro with that rom and it has not let me unlock the bootloader at all so im a little confused here
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Man that is why I hate when people just write for the like of it!!! @ seansmit17 this is not with you I hope you know what I mean.
If you have the message unlock bootloader allowed: no; then it means your phone is sim locked this will lock the fastboot mode too so you will not be able to flash a custom kernel unless you unlock the sim and fastboot mode (connecting the phone turned off and holding the volume up key to the computer = blue notification led with turned off screen and phone), the only means that I know off to unlock is either omnius or setool, this is for the sim and fastboot and it is not free.
For the bootloader you can use the test point method found in the development section, of course I can't guarantee it will work and of course this will NOT UNLOCK YOUR SIM OR FASTBOOT MODE BUT ONLY YOUR BOOTLOADER.
When you install a generic firm with Wotan server it is like a seus upgrade and nothing else well it will allow you to get the last upgrades when they come out due to a change in product code but that's it. The same with flashtool but without the change in product code.
Hope it helps.
I have an x10a, and I have for a while. But, its getting old, and boring. I wanted to spice it up with a custom ROM, namely Cyanogenmod. But going through the steps, xflashtool doesn't seem to want to play ball, informing me that "Your phone bootloader cannot be officially unlocked".
I've flashed it before, but only back to stock. This time I want something new.
Now, I've googled around and I've found a few pieces of information about this, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing very in-depth.
I need to know;
- Does this mean that my attempts at a custom ROM are just at a halt completely? Too bad for me, try a different phone?
- If not, can I force the bootloader to be unlocked, and will it remove my ability to use the radio capability in the phone? (as I have read in a few places now), because my phone isn't a lot of good without the ability to do phone things.
- If I can force it, how, and are there any downsides?
and bonus round;
- Why are there certain phones that just can't have the bootloader unlocked.
Cheers in advance guys, I'd really like to hear some good news about this, but anything is better than what I have at this point.
AzzaMan said:
I have an x10a, and I have for a while. But, its getting old, and boring. I wanted to spice it up with a custom ROM, namely Cyanogenmod. But going through the steps, xflashtool doesn't seem to want to play ball, informing me that "Your phone bootloader cannot be officially unlocked".
I've flashed it before, but only back to stock. This time I want something new.
Now, I've googled around and I've found a few pieces of information about this, but nothing concrete, and certainly nothing very in-depth.
I need to know;
- Does this mean that my attempts at a custom ROM are just at a halt completely? Too bad for me, try a different phone?
- If not, can I force the bootloader to be unlocked, and will it remove my ability to use the radio capability in the phone? (as I have read in a few places now), because my phone isn't a lot of good without the ability to do phone things.
- If I can force it, how, and are there any downsides?
and bonus round;
- Why are there certain phones that just can't have the bootloader unlocked.
Cheers in advance guys, I'd really like to hear some good news about this, but anything is better than what I have at this point.
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1st: you still can flash custom rom, look for the one that have stated (for locked bootloader)
2nd: yes you can, there is testpoint method (correct me If I'm wrong)
3rd: no afaik
Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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TakuyaZ said:
1st: you still can flash custom rom, look for the one that have stated (for locked bootloader)
2nd: yes you can, there is testpoint method (correct me If I'm wrong)
3rd: no afaik
Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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Champion. Cheers for the lightning fast reply, didn't expect to hear back for a day or two. I'm gonna begin my search for a copy of cyanogenmod for x10's that are for locked bootloaders. This should be fun
AzzaMan said:
Champion. Cheers for the lightning fast reply, didn't expect to hear back for a day or two. I'm gonna begin my search for a copy of cyanogenmod for x10's that are for locked bootloaders. This should be fun
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Cyanogen mod cant be installed in locked bootloader, due to cm require an custom kernel
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TakuyaZ said:
Cyanogen mod cant be installed in locked bootloader, due to cm require an custom kernel
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Damn it... Any suggestions for a good alternative? I'd like something either really fancy, or really low RAM and Battery usage.
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Bonus: because there are carrier locked, or just plain damn unlucky
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My X10i is carrirer locked, and I could unlock the boot loader without any problems.
The problem with those who lose their radio capability, is, as I suspect it to be, because they tried SIM-unlock their devices with third party methods in a way that are not supposed to be done. (A "bad" hack method of some kind). Once they unlock the boot loader, they lose that poor third party hack, and the device reverts back to a SIM-locked state. Since most of the people who do SIM-unlock their devices, uses a different carrier, will also lose the radio because of the carrier/SIM lock.
One can safely unlock the boot loader if:
* The device remains SIM-locked and haven't been touched by poor, unknown SIM-lock hacks.
* The device isn't SIM-locked in the first place. (Device was delivered in an unlocked state)
* The device is SIM-unlocked with the proper method, where one get proper unlock codes from their original carrier matched with the IMEI code.
SysGhost said:
One can safely unlock the boot loader if:
* The device remains SIM-locked and haven't been touched by poor, unknown SIM-lock hacks.
* The device isn't SIM-locked in the first place. (Device was delivered in an unlocked state)
* The device is SIM-unlocked with the proper method, where one get proper unlock codes from their original carrier matched with the IMEI code.
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My phone was delivered locked to... Vodaphone? I think. I unlocked it a long time ago. But, I unlocked it by given them my IMEI, and getting the unlock code from them. So, as legit as it gets really. I am still not allowed to just unlock my bootloader. Based on what I've seen in this thread, and a couple of other places, if I force the bootloader to unlock by "less sturdy" means, I should be fine with my sim-unlock, or be able to just contact them again and get a new unlock code.
So, this Testpoint method that TakuyaZ mentioned, anyone able to point me in the right direction for that or an alternative? I can't seem to find a decent tutorial anywhere.
AzzaMan said:
My phone was delivered locked to... Vodaphone? I think. I unlocked it a long time ago. But, I unlocked it by given them my IMEI, and getting the unlock code from them. So, as legit as it gets really. I am still not allowed to just unlock my bootloader. Based on what I've seen in this thread, and a couple of other places, if I force the bootloader to unlock by "less sturdy" means, I should be fine with my sim-unlock, or be able to just contact them again and get a new unlock code.
So, this Testpoint method that TakuyaZ mentioned, anyone able to point me in the right direction for that or an alternative? I can't seem to find a decent tutorial anywhere.
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What method did you try to unlock the bootloader with? As far as I know your SIM-unlocked status shouldn't be affected at all, as it is properly unlocked, with the radio accepting all carriers. (Radio part of the device is semi-isolated from the rest of the system)
Try this method, and you should be fine: (But I cannot promise anything. If you do try it, you're on your own.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
It's the method I used on a few X10i devices. Works on SIM-locked devices (They'll remain SIM-locked after, as it should be), as well as unlocked devices that previosly has been SIM-locked, but unlocked with the proper codes from the carrier. They remained SIM-unlocked after unlocking the boot loader. Good news that is.
So if you really know that your device has been properly SIM-unlocked with codes delivered from the carrier that locked the device in the first place, you should be fine. A.f.a.i.k, the only ones that lost their radio on their devices, are the ones who used improper third party hacking methods to SIM-unlock their devices.
Warning: If you are not 100% sure about what method that has been used to SIM-unlock your device. Stop. And turn back.
Alright, attempting the method posted above, I have hit a snag. I then proceeded to hit the same snag over and over again, trying minutely different methods.
My problem is with the qsd8250_semc tool.
The most I can get out of it is;
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Process requires standard 2.x android firmware.
Press any key to continue...
Getting ROOT rights.
error: protocol fault (no status)
error: device not found
error: device not found.
Waiting...
"
Any suggestions? At this point I've tried the methods listed on the sites below, but nothing is working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
http://www.modaco.com/topic/346145-how-toguideunlock-x10-bootloader-permanently/
AzzaMan said:
Alright, attempting the method posted above, I have hit a snag. I then proceeded to hit the same snag over and over again, trying minutely different methods.
My problem is with the qsd8250_semc tool.
The most I can get out of it is;
"
Process requires standard 2.x android firmware.
Press any key to continue...
Getting ROOT rights.
error: protocol fault (no status)
error: device not found
error: device not found.
Waiting...
"
Any suggestions? At this point I've tried the methods listed on the sites below, but nothing is working.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253277
http://www.modaco.com/topic/346145-how-toguideunlock-x10-bootloader-permanently/
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Did you try with Flashtool? Don't use the newest version, you need 0.9.10 release. From http://androxyde.github.io/ There is a thread on here some where ill inbox you the link if I find it.
But it is easy as to do. By memory I think you click the padlock in flashtool to root phone then click on the plugins and you have the option to unlock boot loader with a click. Not sure if you have to add recovery first? Get the older version of flashtool though.
I'm sure someone will remember and help :good:
Found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254087
Hey mate this is the thread I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821750
doodownunda said:
Did you try with Flashtool? Don't use the newest version, you need 0.9.10 release. From http://androxyde.github.io/ There is a thread on here some where ill inbox you the link if I find it.
But it is easy as to do. By memory I think you click the padlock in flashtool to root phone then click on the plugins and you have the option to unlock boot loader with a click. Not sure if you have to add recovery first? Get the older version of flashtool though.
I'm sure someone will remember and help :good:
Found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254087
Hey mate this is the thread I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821750
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The only things needed on the X10 part is it to have original (Stock) firmware with Android 2.1 or 2.2, with the original 2.6.29 kernel.
Also one need to enable debugging over USB (Debug Bridge) in the developer settings. And lastly need the drivers installed if using Windows. (Which I assume is the case here)
Once that's done, it should all work.
I've written a Linux script if anyone needs it. Still need the other files from the original qsd8250.7z toolset from the_laser's thread. See attached files.
Place qsd8250_semc.bash in the same director as qsd8250_semc.cmd, then execute it.
One also need Linux-version of the adb command, and in the system PATH variable.