XPERIA Z Ultra in da house - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

The XPERIA Z Ultra launched in India today and managed to grab one for an unboxing. Will have a unit with me for a couple of days, so let me know if you have questions about the device.
Here is the Z Ultra in my hands.
Super big but surely awesome design by Sony. metallic frame i think but plastic/glass back Display is not having viewing angle issues like on the Z
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Here is a comparison for fun
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Sic! Its huge as for a phone.
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Could you post the system dump?
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God this guy is more interested in the box on the video. Just wanna grab him and give him a good slap.
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Does x-reality engine works?
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Anyone know if this will work on t mobile in the us,and any idea of the cost?
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All versions of the Z Ultra works on T-Mobile since they have pentaband. The C6806 and C6833 should have LTE in the US as well but they are not in the market yet. The device in the video is the C6802 HSPA+. The price seems to be around $699-799 for now.
I am choosing between the C6833 or the C6903 (Honami) with LTE for US and EU.

E90 Commie said:
All versions of the Z Ultra works on T-Mobile since they have pentaband. The C6806 and C6833 should have LTE in the US as well but they are not in the market yet. The device in the video is the C6802 HSPA+. The price seems to be around $699-799 for now.
I am choosing between the C6833 or the C6903 (Honami) with LTE for US and EU.
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Thanks what's the difference between the 6806 and the 6833?
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Damented said:
Thanks what's the difference between the 6806 and the 6833?
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The C6806 has the LTE 700 while the C6833 has LTE 800. Both should work on T-Mobile, they have a lot of bands. They work in both US and Europe. I am thinking about the C6833 since I want the 800 band when I am in Europe, otherwise both should work fine. The C6806 should be a better choice for AT&T LTE because of the 700 band.

Okay thanks.
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You can slap me lol

X-Reality engine is not there in his software version . Sony has promised to release an update which enables this feature.
Check out the processor info. This is the first phone with the Snapdragon 800 processor(MSM8974) This is indeed the C6802 like someone pointed out .Have digged out some info regarding the 3 variants
C6802
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
C6806
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands I, II, IV, V, VII, VIII, XVII) / LTE 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
C6833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands I, II, III, IV, V, VII, VIII, XX) / LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600

so C6833 basically works with every carrier?

It looks interesting that it supports T-Mobile LTE 1700/2100, AT&T 1700 but no 700. But supports 800,1800,2600 which is widely used in Europe ! Asia too in Singapore, HK, Malaysia !

sytem dump maybe?

varunkrish said:
You can slap me lol
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Hey Varun, whatever happened to the free case the display talked about? Didn't see it in the review. Do you know if/when the accessories are due in the Indian market? Did you play some games on it? Does it get as hot as the XZ did pre-update?

Nice im after the Euro LTE variant myself when its released.
I know it not a fair comparison because you've only just got the device and will be playing with it a lot, however I would be interested in how you find the battery life, both with and without stamina mode enabled. :good:
Also I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?

varunkrish said:
The XPERIA Z Ultra launched in India today and managed to grab one for an unboxing. Will have a unit with me for a couple of days, so let me know if you have questions about the device.
Here is the Z Ultra in my hands.
Super big but surely awesome design by Sony. metallic frame i think but plastic/glass back Display is not having viewing angle issues like on the Z
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Here is a comparison for fun
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Its out and in need of a new Thread dedicated to the Xperia Z Ultra only

baileyjr said:
Nice im after the Euro LTE variant myself when its released.
I know it not a fair comparison because you've only just got the device and will be playing with it a lot, however I would be interested in how you find the battery life, both with and without stamina mode enabled. :good:
Also I'd be interested to know if the stylus support works through a screen protector. Do you plan on installing one?
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I've watched every video online and read every thread and not a word has been said about battery life. I'm starting to think users are feeling buyer's remorse and store-owners are afraid to lose sales.:crying:

audio loudness compared to xperia z?

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3G/4G on US T-Mobile using ST18a or ST18i

I would love to be able to use this amazing phone in on T-Mobile in the US without crippled data speeds as well as seamlessly on voice. Anybody here have experience with this new phone on this network?
ST18a is supposed to be for AT&T, but I speculate that ST18i might be better for T-Mobile US due to 900/2100MHz. 1700MHz is missing though. I also don't know how accurate this is:
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
Just today a T-Mobile Tier2 told me all I needed was 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz for 3G, and 1700 and 2100 for 4G.... so I am left very confused.
Note even access to 3G via roaming on this phone would be acceptable.
just to relieve you from misunderstanding, the ray is not 4G, and the bandwidth 2100 is 3G, and is used mostly in europe and asia pacific, which ever version you get, the umts is available in 5 bandwidth and are all 3G
Hi kms108,
What's your experience with the ST18i? Are you using it in the US? Possibly on T-Mobile?
Thanks!
i have the hong kong version, which is unbranded and using it in hong kong.
i'm liking it very well, just the right size to hold, not a android phone on the market to match it in quality, specs and size wise.
Xperia ray DOES NOT support 3G from Tmobile.
I own the device and I learned it the hard way.
Although ray supports 2100 MHz, the only device that can access Tmobile 3G is the one with BOTH 1700/2100 MHz. It is because Tmobile split both frequencies: one for download and the other for upload.
While for other carriers your phone will work in 3G if it supports either one of the frequencies, however, Tmobile is different.
Having said that, almost ALL of the unlocked phones in the market won't be capable of accessing Tmobile 3G.
If you wish to access 3G, the only carrier that will work is AT&T.
Jon-
Which version, ST18a or ST18i, did you buy? See following:
hxxp://androidforums.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-ray/443709-3g-4g-us-t-mobile-using-st18a-st18i.html
Mine is the ST18i.
Well, neither version will support Tmobile 3G.
ST18i UMTS HSPA 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
ST18a UMTS HSPA 800(Band VI), 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Here's the specs from the manual.
Since both are missing 1700, neither will be capable of receiving 3G from Tmobile.
AT&T
What irony -- maybe the AT&T acquisition of T-Mobile will have some benefits after all, especially those who buy the ST18a...
This wikipedia link confirms your experience: hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#3G_upgrade
The Xperia X10 had 1700, too bad Sony eliminated it.
jon12315 said:
Mine is the ST18i.
Well, neither version will support Tmobile 3G.
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Since both are missing 1700, neither will be capable of receiving 3G from Tmobile.
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can i flash lt26i firmware on a lt26 xperia s?

as titled, i recently updated my friend's lt26 to ICS switzerland's firmware , and now he's bugging me about freezses and wif issues.
so it seems a new firmware is out but it's for lt26i,,so can i flash it?!
Mazensahlieh said:
as titled, i recently updated my friend's lt26 to ICS switzerland's firmware , and now he's bugging me about freezses and wif issues.
so it seems a new firmware is out but it's for lt26i,,so can i flash it?!
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I don't know if there are really different models of the Xperia S. usually with Sony ericsson phones there were a, c, i models but i'm not sure if the Xperia S also has different models. LT26(?) could be just the same as LT26i with this phone.
If these two models really do exist then the difference would be in the network coverage/support? i think.
The white paper from LT26i (i don't think there is another whitepaper) shows:
UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Link: http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/lt26/whitepaper_EN_lt26_xperia_s_2.pdf
PTCRB shows LT26i and LT26w as the only models (LT26w is not Xperia S) with both:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band V/Band VIII
Link: http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/complete_request.cfm?tab=Certified (shows also the firmware names)
so i don't think it will be a problem at all, and even if there where different models you could always try and go back it will not break you phone
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1636774
LT26 == LT26i
kaizokan said:
I don't know if there are really different models of the Xperia S. usually with Sony ericsson phones there were a, c, i models but i'm not sure if the Xperia S also has different models. LT26(?) could be just the same as LT26i with this phone.
If these two models really do exist then the difference would be in the network coverage/support? i think.
The white paper from LT26i (i don't think there is another whitepaper) shows:
UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Link: http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/lt26/whitepaper_EN_lt26_xperia_s_2.pdf
PTCRB shows LT26i and LT26w as the only models (LT26w is not Xperia S) with both:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900, UMTS FDD: Band I/Band II/Band V/Band VIII
Link: http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/complete_request.cfm?tab=Certified (shows also the firmware names)
so i don't think it will be a problem at all, and even if there where different models you could always try and go back it will not break you phone
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1636774
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Tnx man . I wanna buy a Xperia s' so u clearly suggested for what model I'll buy
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cdaarif said:
Tnx man . I wanna buy a Xperia s' so u clearly suggested for what model I'll buy
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Yes there is only that type of Xperia S LT26i, in this case I'm from Mexico, and always they release here the "a" versions because the frequency the operator use, but in this case the Xperia S have it all in the same model

international lumia 920 to work on ATT LTE?

I want to know if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
lovenokia said:
I want to if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
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I'm curious too. I refuse to buy the Lumia in black off of Rogers and the AT&T model is likely to be unlockable like the 900 was.
Add one more request to that. I'm not eligible for an upgrade until next year, so I'll be paying full price for my Lumia 920. I'd rather get the unbranded version if I go that route, since I won't have AT&T blocking any updates that they're notorious for doing.
Hopefully someone will answer this, that att logo looks ugly, and they block updates, so I need to know this, and two others too.
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It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
herzzreh said:
It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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Unless Nokia did something extraordinary, I really do not believe they will release the phone with 9 LTE bands.
The original specs was PentaBand LTE and the AT&T LTE Bands were missing. Meaning the international version will NOT work on AT&T's 4G LTE.
Please see my post here for more information.
Here's an interesting article about unlocked/international phones. I found it pretty informative.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57527428-85/how-phones-are-optimized-and-why-you-should-care-smartphones-unlocked/
I may just resign myself the AT&T version.
Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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lovenokia said:
Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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Yes. According to the current specs both have LTE at 2100Mhz.

[Q] Z2 Frequency bands

As we all know, every device has 2 variants based on regions. The Xperia Z2 has it as well.
- the D6503 I believe is the Rest of the world
- the D6543 I believe is the NA version
- D6502 could be the Non-LTE
So as I was researching about specs I found this in GSMArena website.
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - D6502, D6503, D6543
3G Network
HSDPA 850/ 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - D6502, D6503, D6543
4G Network
LTE 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - D6503
LTE 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - D6543
I live in Asia and fly to Canada every year and I find it a hassle bringing 2 phones. The frequency bands of Z2 intrigue me.
My asian network uses 1900/2100 FOR 3G and LTE 850/1800/2100
My Canadian network (Wind) uses 1700/2100 , they have no LTE network yet
So does this mean both D6503 AND D6543 versions are compatible either networks? It sucks using 2 phones when 1 is not working with the network. (I use the S4 to take pictures. Nexus 5 camera is not so good in my opinion)
It looks like they are compatible.
You find the specs in the whitepaper
D6503 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6502 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
D6543 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8)
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It seems weird to me that the 6543 would be missing some LTE bands and yet add none. I wonder why/how that would be. Do they actually have a different modem chip with fewer radios in it? It seems like that would be more work than just supporting the same bands on both even if some went unused on the 6543. If there's not a huge price difference it seems like you'd definitely want the 6503 just for the increased band support.
Hmm interesting. D6503 is 99% similar to D6543 except it has more frequency bands. Would definitely get the first one. I wonder why Samsung doesnt make phones with multi-bands, especially for "international i9505" version.
Thanks for the replies! Ive hit thanks! Hopefully my seller knows what version he has.
Im from Canada...I would just switch to rogers or bell when your here..then you only need to bring one device since mhz is the same as in asia I believe (im in manila right now ...and loving it...with a rogers device and have no issues on smart...LTE included..slow as hell but working lol).
Besides..wind sucks anyways lol!
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And Im back to Canada once again, sorry to necro the thread. I just called Wind, and they confirmed my phone Xperia Z2 (model D6503) works with their network. So now, i just have to unlock my phone, just $20.

Why the 3g variant (d6502) exists?

Have a look at this:
D6503 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6502 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
D6543 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8)
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Think about it, why should the d6502 and d6543 exist? Why doesn't Sony just solely make a d6503?
eragonshurtugal said:
Have a look at this:
Think about it, why should the d6502 and d6543 exist? Why doesn't Sony just solely make a d6503?
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D6543 is a branded Brazilian version (with digital TV hardware)
I'm guessing there's a demand for D6502 with no LTE (cheaper to manufacture/test), so Sony created it
A lot of stuff doesn't make sense to consumers... and sometimes doesn't make sense to the manufacturers either
EG:
Z1 C6906 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 2, 4, 17 (along with other LTE bands)
Z1s C6916 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 4, 17. This version is T-mobile branded, yet it is missing band 2 (T-mobile uses this band too)
why doesn't Sony just re-use C6906, slap a T-mobile logo and skin on it + wifi calling, call it a day?
eragonshurtugal said:
Have a look at this:
Think about it, why should the d6502 and d6543 exist? Why doesn't Sony just solely make a d6503?
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some countries have some odd law conflictions hence sony cant make d6503 globaly. you can import d6503 but sony may not legsly be able to sell d6503 in your region
paperWastage said:
EG:
Z1 C6906 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 2, 4, 17 (along with other LTE bands)
Z1s C6916 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 4, 17. This version is T-mobile branded, yet it is missing band 2 (T-mobile uses this band too)
why doesn't Sony just re-use C6906, slap a T-mobile logo and skin on it + wifi calling, call it a day?
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The Z1S has a different body and carries some minor improvements over the Z1.
paperWastage said:
D6543 is a branded Brazilian version (with digital TV hardware)
I'm guessing there's a demand for D6502 with no LTE (cheaper to manufacture/test), so Sony created it
A lot of stuff doesn't make sense to consumers... and sometimes doesn't make sense to the manufacturers either
EG:
Z1 C6906 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 2, 4, 17 (along with other LTE bands)
Z1s C6916 supports penta HSDPA, LTE 4, 17. This version is T-mobile branded, yet it is missing band 2 (T-mobile uses this band too)
why doesn't Sony just re-use C6906, slap a T-mobile logo and skin on it + wifi calling, call it a day?
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Brazilian here. I bought version D6503 in order to receive faster updates and to be able to use 4G in the USA.

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