Hi all.
Bought a 2nd hand Nexus 10 last Friday. Anyway, while getting round to rooting my device today I used a number of browsers over the weekend. I used Chrome, Dolphin and Firefox.
First off Firefox seemed to have rendering issues on web pages and scrolling was juddery. Dolphin had blank spaces with web pages and also had juddery scrolling. Chrome crashed my device
I have just installed AOSP browser and web browsing is now super fast. I am a long time fan of AOSP browser and so glad to have it on my device now. Pages load up in milliseconds. Rendering is perfect. Scrolling is silky smooth. I can now feel the power of the A15 cpu's.
Why Google persist with Chrome I will never now.
Long live AOSP browser!
Warren_Orange said:
Hi all.
Bought a 2nd hand Nexus 10 last Friday. Anyway, while getting round to rooting my device today I used a number of browsers over the weekend. I used Chrome, Dolphin and Firefox.
First off Firefox seemed to have rendering issues on web pages and scrolling was juddery. Dolphin had blank spaces with web pages and also had juddery scrolling. Chrome crashed my device
I have just installed AOSP browser and web browsing is now super fast. I am a long time fan of AOSP browser and so glad to have it on my device now. Pages load up in milliseconds. Rendering is perfect. Scrolling is silky smooth. I can now feel the power of the A15 cpu's.
Why Google persist with Chrome I will never now.
Long live AOSP browser!
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Well chrome is a lot more improved in 4.3 update. No crashes and faster loading but i also still prefer aosp browser. It seems smoother still.
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abdel12345 said:
Well chrome is a lot more improved in 4.3 update. No crashes and faster loading but i also still prefer aosp browser. It seems smoother still.
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I still feel AOSP better than chrome in 4.3, not sure about chrome beta.
TBH I was using Chrome Beta when I had the reset. But I have read that Chrome can also cause this on the N10.
I did like Chrome originally but it just seems to have got progressively worse. Performance was bad on my Nexus 7 and that's what caused me to try AOSP again and I loved it. I also put it on my Nexus S because Chrome was just unusable on that phone.
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Never had quite as much trouble as everyone else with Chrome, but it certainly is no speed king. The big reason people would use Chrome is for the value-add features, such as tab syncing.
Tab syncing? I rarely used that but it's a neat feature. I certainly wouldn't sacrifice everything that AOSP brings to the table just for that one feature.
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Warren_Orange said:
Tab syncing? I rarely used that but it's a neat feature. I certainly wouldn't sacrifice everything that AOSP brings to the table just for that one feature.
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For me, it's a make-or-break. Password syncing would have been nice too before I switched over to Dashlane, but it's why I'm somewhat eyeing a switch to Firefox as desktop Chrome has started behaving erratically for me. I try to use one piece of software whenever I can, so Chrome having much of what I wanted built in ruled out the AOSP browser as my default.
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For me, it's a make-or-break. Password syncing would have been nice too before I switched over to Dashlane, but it's why I'm somewhat eyeing a switch to Firefox as desktop Chrome has started behaving erratically for me. I try to use one piece of software whenever I can, so Chrome having much of what I wanted built in ruled out the AOSP browser as my default.
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Do you mean bookmark syncing or tab syncing?
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Do you mean bookmark syncing or tab syncing?
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I think he means the ability to see what was just open on the tablet from say a phone or PC and continue browsing.. heck even back button history is there to use as well... very handy when swapping out devices like I do. I'll deal with the minor annoyances for that feature.
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Do you mean bookmark syncing or tab syncing?
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As above, I mean tab syncing. I don't use bookmarks anymore (haven't for a long time), so that feature is sadly useless to me on any browser that offers it. Being able to pick up my browsing session roving from device is important when you have around seven.
Yeah I understand. Chrome to phone. To me that is a feature I rarely use.
Dude why do you need 7 devices on the go at the same time ?
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I use Dophin. Everything working fine. No problems at all.
You may also want to try Boat Browser.
Aosp is the best. However when I want to use a site like rapidshare etc I use opera as in the other browsers it doesn't download.
Second for dolphin.
The only thing that really keeps me on dolphin is the startup screen. All my favorite websites a touch away.
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Dolphin, Boat, and pretty much any browser in the Play Store are just skins over the AOSP rendering engine. Performance is either going to be the same or slightly slower than AOSP because they add a little bloat on top. The only exceptions are Chrome, Firefox, and Opera - those three use their own custom rendering engines and show significant performance differences. But at the moment, they all seem to be much slower than AOSP.
I'm kind of torn on the issue.
I prefer Chrome's UI and features. The smoothness advantage of AOSP browser isn't big enough to make up for that for me.
I find scrolling is handled better by Chrome as well. If you scroll quickly, AOSP browser can't keep up rendering the page and just starts showing the page background. Chrome can keep up better and will generally render it, although at a lower quality until you stop scrolling. I find that preferable as well.
It's a shame Chrome isn't as smooth, especially when zooming. It can really diminish the experience.
I used Naked Browser myself. Though installed I rarely use Chrome and Ocean Browser.
I was a long time user of dolphin until about 2 months ago. Memory leak issues, FC's... I then transitioned to boat, but for some reason that had issues rendering pages that would lead to FC's. I've been using AOSP for about 1 week and it's been hassle free so far.
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Yeah I understand. Chrome to phone. To me that is a feature I rarely use.
Dude why do you need 7 devices on the go at the same time ?
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Chrome to phone involves another add-on and it's not quite as useful as tab syncing for my uses.
And who said anything about needing? Some people spend discretionary income on beer or cars; I choose to collect shiny electronics instead and tinker around with them. It also comes in handy for when a friend breaks something and I can supply a lending unit for a while until their warranties catch up.
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Hi everyone,
I'm generally very satisfied with my new toy. I'm noticing however e general lag in the UI, no matter what app. Also the browser at times is very unresponsive with a general lag when scrolling up or down a webpage.
But not only is the browser sluggish when scrolling, also webpage take ages to load....
Anyone else having this experience?
Cheers,
Frank
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Use Browser+ or one of many browsers in the market.
Try Xscope, Dolphin or Opera.
Thumbs up for xscope!
Shouldn't have to get a browser from market with the specs the prime comes with. I have also noticed the lag while browsing and have settings up on high.
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Well the sepcs are irrelevant if the software isn't optimized.
I'm not sure how true that is. Friend has Samsung tab and Acer and browser loaded pages quicker. You saying the browser was optimized for them and not us?
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dilfatx said:
I'm not sure how true that is. Friend has Samsung tab and Acer and browser loaded pages quicker. You saying the browser was optimized for them and not us?
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There are so many uncontrolled variables in this sentence it's hard to give it any real response.
I have a solid increase over my xoom in page rendering with default browser.
I must admit, the stock browser hangs a lot more often on my Prime than on my Galaxy Nexus. Not sure why.
Yes that's my point. My galaxy s2 runs fast on browser on same sites. I find myself back on the phone sometimes.
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i use browser plus on my Gnex and my prime...it does hang/load slower on the prime then the nexus and it does pis me of a bit. also i have lag/hanging in the android market on the prime
I found the stock browser pretty bad and Dolphin, Opera and Boat browser still poor. Pages load much better on my old HTC desire. The stock browser should be 'optimised' on a high end device like the Prime.
I think the Javascript engine in the stock browser needs some work.
I'll be using the proper Chrome release when it comes out anyway
Also, make sure Flash is not always on, but set to "on demand".
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I'll be using the proper Chrome release when it comes out anyway
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I've been hoping for a chrome browser... Any idea when it will be released?
One reason I haven't tried other browsers is that I love how the stock browser syncs my bookmarks from chrome on my laptop. I should probably check... Do the other browsers sync bookmarks too?
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I did have slow, buggy flash after the ICS update that required an uninstall/re-install of flash...but beyond that and the force close on the stock browser happening more than i'd like, the browsing experience seems to be good.
GernBlanston said:
I did have slow, buggy flash after the ICS update that required an uninstall/re-install of flash...but beyond that and the force close on the stock browser happening more than i'd like, the browsing experience seems to be good.
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I get a force close at least once a day. That seems pretty excessive compared to the stock browser on my G Nexus. I'm going to see if Dolphin fares better on the Prime.
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I get a force close at least once a day. That seems pretty excessive compared to the stock browser on my G Nexus. I'm going to see if Dolphin fares better on the Prime.
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I have used many browsers and so far I get the same results from all of them, lag and frequent force closes. Dolphin and the ICS+ browsers are what I use most.
The stock browser is the best to me not even going to download anything else
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Use Browser+ or one of many browsers in the market.
Try Xscope, Dolphin or Opera.
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Thanks for your advice, but I would really prefer that the stock ICS browser is actually performing like on no other android version and device before. Instead the eperience is really mediocre....
Reading all the comments it looks like it's a general thing and not only my device. If it was only my device I actually wouldn't be worried so much. But on my device this is not only the browser behaving like this, it's a general UI problem. All apps have a significant, noticeable lag when scrolling....
Mine right now is dolphin and Google chrome. Dolphin because 1# Im used to it. I am getting sick of it because it freezes and make wait sometimes. Chrome is very nice but flash does not work.
Tried Dolphin but there is no option to always show the tabs.
Currently I'm using Xscope, it always shows tabs, uses GPU acceleration and supports flash.
Overskreen
It works faster than stock/Chrome and the only thing it is missing is Find On Page. Give me that feature and I'll forever forget the other 2 browsers.
Opera, because its the only one without "wait" issues. if I need flash, I'll open the android default browser.
garbagedump481 said:
Overskreen
It works faster than stock/Chrome and the only thing it is missing is Find On Page. Give me that feature and I'll forever forget the other 2 browsers.
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This guy knows whatsup
Opera Mobile primarily with Chrome a close second. Opera Mini when I don't need flash. Opera is my primary browser on my laptop, sooooo I am use to it OKs it syncs all my bookmarks. I also feel that Opera Mobile is quicker and works better in a few situations than Chrome.
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OverSkreen for multi-tasking, I just pretty much use this lately and Opera Mobile for fast surfing due to it's speed. Tried Chrome but somehow became slow over time.
Is there anyway to turn off auto rotate in overskreen?
I find the HTC browser crashes a lot and loses all my tabs. Mainly using chrome atm
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Opera mobile for now.
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I'm using Dolphin now, used to be Boat but that just crashes WAY too much.
I can't seem to import bookmarks from my desktop with the other browsers so I can't use them.
Using Xscope and with no problem so far. Used dolphing but sometimes crashes when trying to open flash content, and facebook.com in desktop view is buggy.
I've been using ICS Browser+, although I will say that I do get the "wait" issue from time to time... it's still a very smooth browser and I like the gestures ability. On top of that (literally), I use Overskreen when I want to wikipedia something I'm reading, or if I want to do a translation.
Boat is smooth for me, but only when the page is fully loaded. Opera Mobile is fast at rendering, but panning around the page gets that weird ghosting looking that hurts my eyes.
goulies said:
Is there anyway to turn off auto rotate in overskreen?
I find the HTC browser crashes a lot and loses all my tabs. Mainly using chrome atm
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Look on the market for rotation locker, it's a pink icon in the shape of an L. When you launch it, it will give you a menu, long press landscape or portrait, and you shouldn't have issues.
It also has a tasker plugin which I use on my phone for FPSE to keep it landscape, then set back to auto when I exit FPSE.
I kinda liked Maxthon before
I kinda liked Maxthon before but this was really cool to let you customize a browser.
http://custom.maxthon.com/
Using Opera Mobile Labs now. Think someone linked it on another thread in this sub forum. You can't get it in Play Store but if you do a Google search you should find the apk easily. It is in testing and by far the best mobile browsing experience ever. Using it on my Prime and my Evo 3D
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garbagedump481 said:
Overskreen
It works faster than stock/Chrome and the only thing it is missing is Find On Page. Give me that feature and I'll forever forget the other 2 browsers.
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Is there a way to make overskreen open full screen?
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Is there a way to make overskreen open full screen?
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As in no tool Bar? I don't think so.
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Well, I have used the overskreen browser since yesterday afternoon. Got it set to full screen when it opens. I am very happy with it. It is fast and feel state of the art.
Chrome Beta i have zero issues with lag it syncs wiht my phone and desktop bookmarks and im pretty much signed in on all my fav spots. Can't wait for it to loose the beta tag
I'm pretty satisfied with the stock browser, in my testing chrome was sometimes much slower, I believe when browsing asus website about firmware updates.
also IIRC it doesn't have the cool "slider button" on the right side of the screen as the stock browser has, which allows to scrolly the whole page quickly.
I've tried all major browsers for Android 4(ICS), Chrome, Android default, DolphinHD, Mozilla Firefox (worst look for a browser ever) and all of them have same problem, while browsing the internet, browsers crashes, or like DolphinHD reports popup window sayin you wanna wait or close...
And most common issue is that when you want to scroll, move around the website, it doesn't move instantly but lags... or even don't move at all, waits for few seconds and then starts to move...
I have processor always on mid-level, although have tried Performance as best/faster option but always the same.
Internet connection is fast and Wi-Fi signal is perfect.
Does anyone else have this problem?
I would say that everyone has had this problem at one time or another. Please see this thread which is usually on the first page but has worked its way down a bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597615
Check out that link. Many people have this problem. Some people have had luck with an app called browser2ram.
From my experience, the stock browser is garage. DolphinHD works well for me.
This is one of the areas that my ipad blows my TFP out of the water.
The stock browser on the ipad is snappy and smooth. Just no flash. Can't have everything I guess.
Clarification. The stock browser is garbage on the Prime because the Prime itself is garbage. Stock browser has been perfectly smooth and stable on my Galaxy Nexus since it launched.
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nyijedi said:
Clarification. The stock browser is garbage on the Prime because the Prime itself is garbage. Stock browser has been perfectly smooth and stable on my Galaxy Nexus since it launched.
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Further (dissenting) clarification - stock browser can be smooth and stable. It is on my ATP. I prefer Dolphin, though, 'cos of the way the top address bar disappears when scrolling icreasing page space.
Firefox (beta)!
I used Dolphin for a while but Firefox is now the best. Reasons why it's number one for me are:
-it's fast
-handles flash well
-syncs anything you want with Firefox on other devices (bookmarks on Dolphin are horrible)
-Ad-block add-on
-option to restore tabs from last time
-ablity to switch to desktop view
It's great for a beta release, only crashed once in a few days of use.
You should check Aurora, the Mozilla test browser. Download it directly from Mozilla website, not in Play.
haven't really tried all that much, but chrome has been pretty good to me ;o
If you're on ICS, Boat Browser has been my favorite. So fast, even with multiple tabs. If you're on JB then Chrome has been incredible. No hiccups or problems (minus having to select desktop mode every time before clicking on a bookmark).
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Firefox (beta)!
I used Dolphin for a while but Firefox is now the best. Reasons why it's number one for me are:
-it's fast
-handles flash well
-syncs anything you want with Firefox on other devices (bookmarks on Dolphin are horrible)
-Ad-block add-on
-option to restore tabs from last time
-ablity to switch to desktop view
It's great for a beta release, only crashed once in a few days of use.
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I am very impressed with the Firefox Beta at this point. I get less tiling than with ICS+ browser, and the interface is less cumbersome than boat browser imo. They did some very good work, I can't wait to get the finished product.
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If you're on ICS, Boat Browser has been my favorite. So fast, even with multiple tabs. If you're on JB then Chrome has been incredible. No hiccups or problems (minus having to select desktop mode every time before clicking on a bookmark).
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Agreed, I have been running Boat since I found it. It is the fastest IMO. The only thing I've noticed with Boat is when you scroll up or down there is a slight lag before the page starts moving. Not that big of a deal though.
I'll give Firefox a try, I like it on my desktop.
Boat was my main browser a few months ago but it crashed way too often. Switched to Dolphin because of that.
Really? I never had issues with boat until JB.
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Firefox,Love it!
The new Firefox beta is awesome for all the reasons that the OP gave. It also anr's far less than chrome with multiple tabs open.
For those that like Chrome (I still do) but miss flash, here is a plugin that does help sidestep that problem:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nightshadelabs.anotherbrowser
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Really? I never had issues with boat until JB.
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Yup, Boat was my favourite but it kept crashing. Couldn't handle it
Firefox was terrible back then, laggy as hell, unstable. Complete 180, it's great now. Makes browsing on my Prime much better.
Maxton ftw
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Firefox beta looked nice, but not one of the keyboards works with it?? I have Thumb and the built ins, and they wouldn't type one letter.
I use dolphin with flash on request only. It runs smooth, few hang ups. like it because the search/tab bars disappear giving more space to the web page - do any other browsers offer that?
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I use dolphin with flash on request only. It runs smooth, few hang ups. like it because the search/tab bars disappear giving more space to the web page - do any other browsers offer that?
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Yeah Boat does that. You can customize it to display or not display tabs/toolbars.
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Folks,
Be sure to grab the new Chrome Beta in the play store that fixes many of the issues we've had with Chrome on the Nexus 10.
Don't expect UI or UX changes in this beta. This is the first build available now that the Chrome for Android team has most everything upstreamed to the open source Chromium project. This build should feel faster due to optimizations for touch and bug fixes. There's still quite a bit of work to improve fluidity of the UI as seen here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/i...r+Summary&x=mstone&y=releaseblock&cells=tiles
I suspect Chrome will improve a good deal faster than it has in the past now that it has been open sourced and the Chrome for Android team can focus on things other than upstreaming the project.
cant find it when i search the play store
chronniff said:
cant find it when i search the play store
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Yeah, you'll have to search for it in your browser
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chronniff said:
cant find it when i search the play store
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Here you go: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
I made a thread about it a while ago, but the current version of Chrome Beta out-performs AOSP browser on Sunspider
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I made a thread about it a while ago, but the current version of Chrome Beta out-performs AOSP browser on Sunspider
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Yeah its still really choppy though. Hopefully that gets fixed soon since they finally look like they are resuming development
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Thanks for the link
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I installed it, but whenever I opened the settings it would crash (from a null pointer exception). OK, so it has some bugs still, that's to be expected. However, now when I open the settings for the stable chrome app, it crashes with the same problem. I sent crash reports to Google for both cases, but does anyone know if the two versions interfere with each other and if there might be something I have to delete from the drive to make it work? I'm rooted, so doing that should be pretty simple.
Edit: sorry, this was on my nexus 4. But if anyone has any ideas, that would be great.
Edit 2: nvm, looks like it was a ROM issue.
How does it compare to stock s3 browser? Only had 5 minutes with it and about to sleep so can't test it but noticed within seconds it's amillion times faster and smoother than the last stable chrome which is s brilliant sign. Would love chrome to be Good enough to be my default browser on the s3 (and ipad) again ASAP.
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I'd say it loads/renders pages noticeably faster, but it seems a little choppier with scrolling - a worthwhile tradeoff imo.
Very, very fast.
But for me, the main issue now Is NO FULL SCREEN mode.
Come on Google.
Anyone using the new beta have it freeze up - requiring a reboot of your N10? Sadly, this happens to me 2-3 times per day, especially if I'm browsing Chrome while listening to music (Google or Pandora). I'm going to give it a try regardless, just curious as to what others are experiencing.
I loaded up theverge.com on the new Chrome Beta then on Ocean browser,
Ocean browser is still MUCH faster to load and scroll,
Chrome beta still redraws all graphics when scrolling like my old xoom, YUCK!
Some sites is still clunky, but others is not a problem.
Video review + benchmarks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azNB4QKm8Ag&feature=youtu.be
Page load times are indeed faster but scrolling is much slower than building chromium yourself. My guess is there are a few things still disabled in the beta build that are enabled in the chromium source.
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some problems with typing in websites like facebook or forums.
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Doesn't kill battery as much as the other one. However zooming doesn't adjust text size so kind of useless from that point of view.
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Chrome needs so much work to be competitive with other offerings its sad.
I ran the Chrome beta a bit yesterday, but it only took about 25 minutes for it to freeze up and force me to reboot my Nexus 10. I don't know how prevalent this is with the beta, but it appears to still be an issue. I've gone back to using AOSP browser.