Hello,
I sold my Xperia after some time and I can tell you the Bravia Engine and little customisation from Sony is great. The feel of phone in your hand is also good. Also, the xperia U/P/Go/Sola/ other devices are very good gadgets and they have enough support from developers.The LED bar in Xperia U is truely awesome and it could change colours just made it epic. If you are go for looks and beauty, certainly these devices are for you. Performance is good usually but not good enough in some case. (the price is not too high)
What are the factors that disappoint you ?
I will tell you mine what I can think of:
*Usually no expandable memory and in some case, battery is fixed.
*Bugs in ICS with no real support from Sony on these devices
*Bad battery life although I turned off the LED bar and used it with zero brightness. Still couldnot last more than a day on average use.
*My charger started to take long time to charge and it was quicker to charge via USB cable. In the beginning the charge time was epic. Just about an hour to charge it fully.
*NO SUPPORT FROM SONY AND UPDATES COME VERY VERY LATE AND DEVICES ARE ONLY SUPPORTED FOR MONTHS.
*NOT REAL LOUD SOUND
UPDATE :
I bought another Xperia
You forgot Xperia sola
Because of ICS laggy update, no support of Sony, no jelly bean update for Sony xperia u and poor service
im currently using xperia sola for about a year. ive tried a couple other xperia phones '12 like u, p, s, j and sony didnt good that much of a work. this mid price range devices dont have great potential (using sony's stock os). that unfortunate thing is that if you want to make your devices OK you have to do lots of stuff(root unlock bl etc etc you get the idea). but most of the people dont know about xda-flashing rom etc.they just stay at gb or stock ics and complain,or choose to buy a more mainstream devices and this results to not jave that great potential from xperia mid price range device community.
Sorry for my bad english. :angel:
No, I have all my phones still
Ericsson T68m
2x Sony Ericsson T68i (one brand new in box)
2x Sony Ericsson T230
Sony Ericsson T610
Sony Ericsson T630
Sony Ericsson K510
2x Sony Ericsson W810 (Black + White)
Sony Ericsson C905
Sony Ericsson Elm (J10i2).
Did have another T230 and two K550's but lost track of them).
I hate my Xperia U, performance sucks (on stock and CM9), if I see a good deal I'll replace it, but still wouldn't sell the U.
I would sell Xperia U because of inadequate RAM and unavailability of separate recovery partition.
I'd be lucky to get anything for an Xperia P, after having this device a year I hate it, looking forward to a new phone at the end of this month, probably won't be a Sony due to my Xperia p experience
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I am so regretful for having sold my xperia active. Now I have an Xperia Go, is not as powerful as I wish but it is ok. I change my rom once in a while and I am so happy with it.
I was so scared to unlock the bootloader of my X.Active and never did. I guess if I had, I still would have my old phone and never bought another one. Bricking and unbricking your phone and change roms from XDA devs is so funny that you will forget about all the new phones coming out every day.
as for myself, maybe i'd only sell my X-Sola if it's decommissioned, forced to retire, or got a rival phone in my pocket.. it's quite great actually, after tampering with it a lot of customization..
overall, i'm lucky to choose this one..
sgmini said:
You forgot Xperia sola
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I was talking about midrange phones, Sola is surely covered
IAmNice said:
I would prolly only sell it for money. Pretty happy with my XP now.
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In a way I regret selling it as i didnot want to spend too much on a phone now so I bought HTC Incredible S which I changed to HTC chacha. I am not happy with both either but atleast the small screen on my HTC chacha doesnot distract me too much from playing games, reading forums, news etc. The main reason I sold it was that I couldnot concentrate much on anything really. Just me and my phone. I am not sure what will happen when I get the New nexus 7
gattlin said:
Because of ICS laggy update, no support of Sony, no jelly bean update for Sony xperia u and poor service
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TRUE, I just hate that they didnot update it to JB when they could. They talked about the hardware support on NovaThor but I guess they could have ported JB easily on all devices which were only few months old.
IAmNice said:
Who the heck cares! THIS IS XDA. Flash custom roms, kernels, scripts, etc everyday and feel the performace. Like other companies provide better support for their budget phones...
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I agree. Xda is amazing. Really I have found so many helpful developers who are working on it without really getting paid. You should always be thankful to developers and those who are helping you out. Trust me, I find almost everything here. I usually do not need to programme at all to do whatever I want to do with my device. Thanks Xda
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im currently using xperia sola for about a year. ive tried a couple other xperia phones '12 like u, p, s, j and sony didnt good that much of a work. this mid price range devices dont have great potential (using sony's stock os). that unfortunate thing is that if you want to make your devices OK you have to do lots of stuff(root unlock bl etc etc you get the idea). but most of the people dont know about xda-flashing rom etc.they just stay at gb or stock ics and complain,or choose to buy a more mainstream devices and this results to not jave that great potential from xperia mid price range device community.
Sorry for my bad english. :angel:
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To be honest really, the devices are monsters. Many of the apps that are written wouldnot work with your device in google play, I have managed to play them really smooth. However, I have noticed that some games/apps won't work on ICS latest build but run very smoothly on GB and Custom roms. I guess ICS was complete failure in terms of its potential.
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I would sell Xperia U because of inadequate RAM and unavailability of separate recovery partition.
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Well, ram is an issue. If Xperia U had 1 Gb ram and Sd card, this device would be epic but manufacturers always keep something to themselves so a person changes his phone often and they get more profit
GojiTronix said:
I'd be lucky to get anything for an Xperia P, after having this device a year I hate it, looking forward to a new phone at the end of this month, probably won't be a Sony due to my Xperia p experience
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I agree, I am also thinking of not going for Sony for atleast next 3 to 5 years looking at my experience. I prefer Nexus more with more freedom. HTC on the other hand is more complicated to unlock, Root, Get S off etc before you can flash roms. Plus, it is a pain to flash official Stock Rom for HTC which was much easier with Sony. So for the moment, these both companies are out of my league!
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I am so regretful for having sold my xperia active. Now I have an Xperia Go, is not as powerful as I wish but it is ok. I change my rom once in a while and I am so happy with it.
I was so scared to unlock the bootloader of my X.Active and never did. I guess if I had, I still would have my old phone and never bought another one. Bricking and unbricking your phone and change roms from XDA devs is so funny that you will forget about all the new phones coming out every day.
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I remember rooting and unlocking my first device. I was scared and only think I had in my mind were thoughts of it getting bricked, damaged, burnt, short circuited and what not. Tell you from experience, for all the years I am doing it, I had so many bricks and every device came back to life in the end. However, I am yet to see a hardware issue!
Yeah definitely thinking of an android vanilla device, HTC comes with way to much crap and is not fun to root.
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i would sell my Xperia Device in order to buy an other one! :good:
Would sell my Xperia sola soon and buy Xperia SP...
Also planning to get Xperia SP and sell of my pee only because of ST Ericsson Chipset and a big size screen..
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To be honest really, the devices are monsters. Many of the apps that are written wouldnot work with your device in google play, I have managed to play them really smooth. However, I have noticed that some games/apps won't work on ICS latest build but run very smoothly on GB and Custom roms. I guess ICS was complete failure in terms of its potential.
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well i think that everyone would get a better devices for a little small amount of money.for instance i bought sola for 280 euros and that price was the same month that it came on market.now xperia sola cost 160-180 tops and with 300 euros now i would get htc dezire x. which is a pretty good phone.my point is that sony is awful and maybe ill never get a sony phone again:angel:
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well i think that everyone would get a better devices for a little small amount of money.for instance i bought sola for 280 euros and that price was the same month that it came on market.now xperia sola cost 160-180 tops and with 300 euros now i would get htc dezire x. which is a pretty good phone.my point is that sony is awful and maybe ill never get a sony phone again:angel:
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Well, if you wait a bit more and you will get nexus 4 for around 320 Euros or less or maybe even Galaxy S3.
It is always like that. Once the technology gets older, its price drops really quickly. Just think how much Nokia E72 costs now ?
when my dad contracts end or mine i will get his s4
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Well, if you wait a bit more and you will get nexus 4 for around 320 Euros or less or maybe even Galaxy S3.
It is always like that. Once the technology gets older, its price drops really quickly. Just think how much Nokia E72 costs now ?
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nexus 4 already is 320 euros.my point is that if u wait a little bit longer and still use an old device you can get a better one.and also you may get caught like me and think that the device you pick was the best casue.companies first release mid range devices and not the biggest ones..and i was a fool to believe that sola, u, p with the exeption of acro s that they where good...
you forgot to write down sola ?
To less RAM
I would sell it because the Sola has to less Ram for smooth using, and the Display is to small for me :/
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I wonder if it is a good idea to wait for Xperia P than to buy huge Xperia S.
Used Galaxy Ace for over 7 months and now I sold it. Thought to buy an S2 but I just hate that shape. No more samsung!!!
Always wanted to get my hands on Xperia Arc but many other good phones are out there now in the market. Like HTC Sensation XE, Galaxy S2, etc. People will laugh if I buy an arc now. But still arc is taking over my mind because its cost is very low now compared to other phones.
I already have 630$ in my amazon.com account (as gift card balance), but I have to add some $ 80 to it to buy Xperia S and ship it to India.
I prefer Xperia P over Xperia S coz:
Smaller in size (just 4.5mm width difference but I think it matters)
8MP is enough for me
HD screen is not a must (540X960 pixels is fine)
I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
But S is better over P because of 32GB storage, 1.5GHz. Well at least I have to say myself that P costs less.
What I want to do now is buy an arc, use it for 4 or 5 months, then sell it and buy the Xperia P. By the end of april sure P will be released. And after another 2 months its price will also be reduced much, like all sony phones does.
What say, friends? Now should I buy Xperia S or Arc?
The S supports USB OTG as well, it's in another thread
it's your money, I like the S because of the speed, camera, size, and looks.
Ultimately it's what you think about the two, the P has the looks, but the rest isn't doing it for me
Jazz Like That said:
I wonder if it is a good idea to wait for Xperia P than to buy huge Xperia S.
Used Galaxy Ace for over 7 months and now I sold it. Thought to buy an S2 but I just hate that shape. No more samsung!!!
Always wanted to get my hands on Xperia Arc but many other good phones are out there now in the market. Like HTC Sensation XE, Galaxy S2, etc. People will laugh if I buy an arc now. But still arc is taking over my mind because its cost is very low now compared to other phones.
I already have 630$ in my amazon.com account (as gift card balance), but I have to add some $ 80 to it to buy Xperia S and ship it to India.
I prefer Xperia P over Xperia S coz:
Smaller in size (just 4.5mm width difference but I think it matters)
8MP is enough for me
HD screen is not a must (540X960 pixels is fine)
I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
But S is better over P because of 32GB storage, 1.5GHz. Well at least I have to say myself that P costs less.
What I want to do now is buy an arc, use it for 4 or 5 months, then sell it and buy the Xperia P. By the end of april sure P will be released. And after another 2 months its price will also be reduced much, like all sony phones does.
What say, friends? Now should I buy Xperia S or Arc?
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IMO it will be stupid to buy a Arc now only to sell it again in a few months. But that just me. If you have S2 now you have big screen. And after my experince once you got a big screen you never go back. Same with televisions. And besides the arc has nearly the same size screen as the S. So i don't see your logic? Games and pictures and video is so much better on a high resolution big screen. And if you wait for the P alot other mobiles will be released by then, and then you can't decide again.
Your argument about front faced camera, well i don't realy undestand it. I doubt i'll ever use my front faced camera other than taking pictures of my self. So nobody says you have to use it and you barley notice it on the S.
Buy the S. It's a great phone just like the Arc was. The Arc was also the flagship and the followers was Neo, Pro and play. The Sony Xperia S is also the flagship the U and P are just limited editions followers.
Buy the flagship.
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I don't want a HD front Camera (I don't want a front camera at all for another one or two years).
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Face unlock in ice cream sandwich only works with front facing camera.
So you think the Xperia S is too big but you are thinking of an S II?
I like handsets that i can operate with 1 hand. Its the main reason i walked away from the Galaxy Nexus Prime.
I had the X10 and the Xperia S is 5-10mm taller and a couple of mm wider.
I have no problem driving this animal with 1 hand.
Sony's policy (until now it seems) was to release a flagship model 2010 was the X10, 2011 was the Arc and this year is the 'S' until August anyway. Then they released a mid and lower range handset.
I know that if i got the lesser models i would always wishing i got the flagship instead.
Just my personal feelings and obviously you do as you please.
Just don't make a decision on what you think.
Get down to a mobile phone shop and get your choices in your hands. Your choice would be at least then justified and not on guess work.
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I posted some early impression of the Xperia S HERE with some pics of Xperia S against arc.
- If you had any screen bigger than 4.0, Xperia P will be small
- Dual Core 1GHz should be enough but 1.5GHz could help you with some apps later
-There are differences between the two and Xperia S tops it out. I felt in love with Xperia P aluminum unibody and the fact doesn't have flaps for USB connection but once I got the Xperia S I forgot all of those fact.
Xperia S is good built quality phone to the extends that Xperia ARC feels like a little toy in front of it. Flap doesn't bother me at all and made the whole phone experience even better (as far as look)
You could always buy the Xperia S and then sell it whenever you want.
Good luck mate,
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I posted some early impression of the Xperia S HERE with some pics of Xperia S against arc.
- If you had any screen bigger than 4.0, Xperia P will be small
- Dual Core 1GHz should be enough but 1.5GHz could help you with some apps later
-There are differences between the two and Xperia S tops it out. I felt in love with Xperia P aluminum unibody and the fact doesn't have flaps for USB connection but once I got the Xperia S I forgot all of those fact.
Xperia S is good built quality phone to the extends that Xperia ARC feels like a little toy in front of it. Flap doesn't bother me at all and made the whole phone experience even better (as far as look)
You could always buy the Xperia S and then sell it whenever you want.
Good luck mate,
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Flaps don't bother me also, when I'm thinking about using them.
What really bothers me is that, because the Xperia S has these flaps, this probably means that the Smart Dock Acessory that's available for both Xperia P and Xperia Ion does not work or is not supposed to work on Xperia S, which is supposed to be the company's flagship...
ErichSan said:
Flaps don't bother me also, when I'm thinking about using them.
What really bothers me is that, because the Xperia S has these flaps, this probably means that the Smart Dock Acessory that's available for both Xperia P and Xperia Ion does not work or is not supposed to work on Xperia S, which is supposed to be the company's flagship...
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Yeah i'm slightly confused that Sony haven't made a dock for the S either. What with Ubuntu coming to Android this would have been an awesome accessory. Come home from work, dock the phone in and fire up a full fledged OS and carry on with work on a bigger screen. Obviously we can still do this with the HDMI out and the USB but seems a missed oppertunity.
i read somewhere that xperia s would work with livedock.. which is a lot better deal considering it won't go irrelevant once u upgrade your phone..
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i read somewhere that xperia s would work with livedock.. which is a lot better deal considering it won't go irrelevant once u upgrade your phone..
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It does work.. I bought it for Arc long ago and now using it for Xperia S..
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have you checked out the sony sola.
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have you checked out the sony sola.
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The sola is a whole other device with the floating touch thing and not really in the same ballpark even as the S and the P.
It's got only a 5MP camera
1Ghz Dual Core
3.7"
512MB RAM
No secondary camera
Apparently from what i'm reading: No Bravia engine
It does have the Novathor u8500 chipset though?
Sola vs S specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4369
Sola vs P specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4436
I think it's just meant to be a sort of a flagship floating touch phone with that being the main focus.
S is the mobile at the moment.
I have ordered it already and may get it in my hands by tomorrow.
Thank you guys for the suggestions.
Sola white paper http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/mt27/whitepaper_EN_mt27_xperia_sola.pdf
p white paper http://www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/lt22/whitepaper_EN_lt22_xperia_p.pdf
RiotRick said:
Face unlock in ice cream sandwich only works with front facing camera.
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Another Siri style featires -_-
Who really need this?
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shmoejoe said:
The sola is a whole other device with the floating touch thing and not really in the same ballpark even as the S and the P.
It's got only a 5MP camera
1Ghz Dual Core
3.7"
512MB RAM
No secondary camera
Apparently from what i'm reading: No Bravia engine
It does have the Novathor u8500 chipset though?
Sola vs S specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4369
Sola vs P specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=4436
I think it's just meant to be a sort of a flagship floating touch phone with that being the main focus.
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On Smartphone sensor probably 5MP make better photo then 8+
I just don't know what to get. Help me!
Hello!
What's up? *insert ceiling joke here*
I'm going to tell you a funny story.
In January, I ordered the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S but it took so long to arrive and I fell in love with the SXS, so I cancelled!
I was sure to get the SXS but then I saw the P and asked myself 'do I really need a high-end model? As long as it has 1Gb ram it's cool for me. Right?' I got no answer.
The SXP looks very appealing... Not only for the dock, but for it's built and size...and in red is just stunning
I'm getting tired of waiting...and being confuse. I really want to try android... So many cool stuff to do.
I want to hear your opinions.
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Hello!
What's up? *insert ceiling joke here*
I'm going to tell you a funny story.
In January, I ordered the Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S but it took so long to arrive and I fell in love with the SXS, so I cancelled!
I was sure to get the SXS but then I saw the P and asked myself 'do I really need a high-end model? As long as it has 1Gb ram it's cool for me. Right?' I got no answer.
The SXP looks very appealing... Not only for the dock, but for it's built and size...and in red is just stunning
I'm getting tired of waiting...and being confuse. I really want to try android... So many cool stuff to do.
I want to hear your opinions.
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Dude.. Its not at all funny. It completely makes sense.
Frankly I felt the same thing as you. Arc S is a great phone and I always wanted to get it in my hands. But when SXS and SXP were announced I felt it is worth waiting for them.
Also I felt like 'Do I really need a high-end mobile?' (just like you felt). That is why I opened this thread.
SXP is a good one but its not yet launched.
Now if you can't wait to get an android mobile and if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then it is completely worth buying an SXS. Previously I used 'Galaxy Ace' and now am having a great time after getting the SXS. The mobile is simply amazing.
Also do check 'HTC One X'. It is also a high end model and it comes with ICS. But personally I love Sony. Also One X is longer and wider compared to SXS. Hence I went for SXS.
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Dude.. Its not at all funny. It completely makes sense.
Frankly I felt the same thing as you. Arc S is a great phone and I always wanted to get it in my hands. But when SXS and SXP were announced I felt it is worth waiting for them.
Also I felt like 'Do I really need a high-end mobile?' (just like you felt). That is why I opened this thread.
SXP is a good one but its not yet launched.
Now if you can't wait to get an android mobile and if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then it is completely worth buying an SXS. Previously I used 'Galaxy Ace' and now am having a great time after getting the SXS. The mobile is simply amazing.
Also do check 'HTC One X'. It is also a high end model and it comes with ICS. But personally I love Sony. Also One X is longer and wider compared to SXS. Hence I went for SXS.
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Lol in this case it's dudette.
I checked out the HTC One X and the One S but, HTC fans please forgive, it's not as beautiful as the SXS. Sony adds that mojo that makes you fall in love. Plus, I know SenseUI is pretty and has lots of tweaks however Sony's simplicity is pure win.
I'm going to wait a bit for the P, to hear about it from people who use it daily. Then I'll decide which to buy. I have to choose wisely, I'll be with one of them for 2 years
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I checked out the HTC One X and the One S but, HTC fans please forgive, it's not as beautiful as the SXS. Sony adds that mojo that makes you fall in love. Plus, I know SenseUI is pretty and has lots of tweaks however Sony's simplicity is pure win.
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I'm going to wait a bit for the P, to hear about it from people who use it daily. Then I'll decide which to buy. I have to choose wisely, I'll be with one of them for 2 years
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Hey! If you are going to wait for P to launch then there is nothing big to decide. Like I said previously, if you can afford to buy a high end mobile then SXS would be ideal option to choose. If you feel like high end mobile is not necessary then surely SXP would be the one for you. The point is both are quality mobiles in their range.
Even after the launch of P you cannot get proper opinions comparing them. Both come under different range. I am sure both users will say S is good (its sony's flagship afterall, isn't it?). Like I said, it all comes down to whether you can afford for it or not.
And it would be silly if you buy the S after the release of P because you like S more. I mean the wait would be meaningless, right?
Keep reading the reviews of SXS. I am sure you are doing it now. Also what do you feel about SGSIII?
I would say that the Xperia P is the smallest brother to Xperia S.
I was also thinking about Xperia P, but I wanted a little bit bigger screen, but with bigger screen, it means bigger phone. It's not very comfy to control the Xperia S with only one hand. I'm a teenager so I don't have big man hands.
And Xperia P was not available in my country at that time, and I desperatly needed a phone, so there was no other choice then Xperia S.
But I think I get used to this big Xperia S phone. It would be even more perfect if it wasn't that tall (tricky to control the phone with only the thumb over the big area of screen).
But if I went for the Xperia P, it would be like my old Xperia X10, with 1GHz processor, 8MP and same screen size, so upgrading wouldnt be that big of a deal, so I just went for something good when I already was buying a new phone in 2012!
Good luck chosing your phone!
Samsung Galaxy S III is a mighty beast? Agreed. Does it have the meanest specs? It does. Can it be upgraded to Android's latest when it comes? Might not be.
S III reviews are coming out and here's a quote from The Verge's review-
"One thing that goes consistently overlooked with respect to Samsung’s phones is the company’s ignominious track record with Android software updates. There may be worse offenders out there, but Samsung’s chronic failure to update its devices on time (or at all) is a significant black mark for a brand looking to lead the way in almost every other respect. Thus, as much as I may enjoy the Galaxy S III today, I have to temper that enthusiasm with the knowledge that its long-term future may not be as rosy as that of a stock Android device"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review
The Galaxy S II ICS update hasn't come to India yet where Sony is almost ready to release ICS updates for their low-end range in a week, despite S II being a flagship. People in this forum are constantly doubting Sony's commitment to their customers. I don't know why but they should never. For a company which is willing to support the developer community for the greater good, nothing speaks more trust than that. So if you worried about the ICS update or future updates about your XPERIA S, never worry. Just wait for a couple of weeks more and you will get it.
So will you trust Sony?
i owned an xperia x10->ray and now xperia s.
the xps is a very good phone i can say is fantastic, i played some howers a go a game made by qualcomm it self (snapdragon) the game is Desert wind still in very very alpha and not even completed and i can say that game completly destroys all tegra 3 games i ever seen!
but lets be honest the galaxy s3 is a better phone in many aspects, is a newer high end phone is normal to be better, not only for the futures he comes with but for the hardware to, if i should buy a new phone right now i'll wait for the galaxy s 3!
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Even my X10 MP could run ICS. But that's marketing. It has been like that and always will be.
Xperia for life..
Sony simply love the aftermarket developers, users need.
They are social company, not some kind of competitor like apple or samsung, they aiming only for money..
Sony aim also on money, but taking in mind care of users, satisfaction of user, being reliable, accepting if they mistake in something (arc case, xperia s screen) and wiling to repair it for free...
what do you need more?
great phone poor support
i cant think of many reasons, and i have the xperia s,
it has a better screen (ppi) and i prefer the look of the xperia s, when ics comes to the xperia s i might be able to find more however with the s3 having a much larger battery, current reviews(benchmarks) say it has twice the standby time of the htc one x,
although samsung have fallen in the update area, sony have been far from good with theres with something as small as firmware and ics, three, tmobile and orange have all released there version of the .73 firmware to fix the battery drain issue and there is no generic version released as yet and wont be for some weeks, i developed the yellow tint on my first xperia s and had to wait 6 weeks for my phone to be returned, not sure what samsung are like at this but from my point of view i paid £400 for as phone that went dead after 42 days !!!! i should have had a replacement set to me not a repair
then there is ics which has a big stamp on the box saying its upgradable, the one x comes out with it, the 2011 range get it and still another month or two wait for there so called flagship to recieve the update when samsung s2 recieved the upgrade before sony got it to the 2011 range aswell,
sony were once the best in the market but now there one of the worst for it,
as much as i love the phone to pieces and wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market at the moment the support from sony and the timely updates are appalling,
i even had a chat with sony support and asked when the 73 firmware update will be released for generic uk users and his response was "do you mean ics" further training needed too i think,
plus on the xperia s
screen
camera
playstation certified
panorama 3d photos,
hdmi support
styling (see thru cap at bottom is a very good touch esp in a dark room/club)
plus on the samsung
processor
lte version to be released
additional micro sd slot ( i know 32gb is enough but what about when you want to print photos direct from the phone in store) micro sd does come in handy
ics already pre installed,
better browsing due to ics
better multitaksing due to ics the list can go on
when xperia s gets ics i still think the xperia s will be the better phone as you dont need a quad core nowadays but it has to be listed as a pro for the s3, i doubt you will get the use of it for another year or so until some advanced apps come out,
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No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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The Samasung track record for updating is much much worse than Sony. Sony is one of the best when it comes to updating for Android. Also I would rather have them wait and release an almost perfect version than push out a crummy one. Go test the HTC One series which have lag issues in ICS and you will see what I mean.
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No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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You should try owning a Motorola if you think Sony have done you a disservice.
Fanboi threads are fail. Sony lost alot of good will with the fiasco that was the x10. Samsung ran rings around them and to be fair, and speaking as an S user, they still do. Updates? Sony vs Samsung? It's a no brainer. The S2 didn't get to where it is by shoddy after market support, quite the contrary. If it wasn't for the vast number of pissed off customers the x10 would still be running 2.1. Sony lovers devs? The lols just keep coming. All the aftermarket devs have done has been to show just how incompetent Sony are, how they try to hoodwink their less tech savvy customers by spinning utter bull**** about hardware limitations etc... And the list goes on. 3 months down the line im still waiting to be able to have some fun with my S. Silly me, should have held on to my brilliant S2 and waited for a proper phone by a manufacturer that knows how to please the masses.
Well, I would never, ever consider the Xperia S over the S3. Never. Xperia S in my opinion is a competitor of the GNex. S3? No.
The Hayabusa will be that phone.
And about the updates, remember that Carriers are the biggest problem, specially in these cases of "not in my country!"
And didn't Sony just said they won't update the Xperia Play? I mean, seriously?
lol where is the update for the original flagship arc? They updated the mid end neo V and ray but not the arc how wonderful!! And did you hear they cancelled the update for the xperia play despite "promising" it?
Wait wait where is the update for the xperia S for that matter? Are you even serious making this topic? So what if the S2 update hasnt reached india yet? It's pretty simple to put another country firmware, you really dont need indian firmware just because one lives in india. There is hardly any difference.
Samsung has bad support for their mid end and low end phones yes thats true but it doesnt apply in the slightest bit to their flagship. The galaxy S was one of the first phones after nexus S to get gingerbread. Galaxy S wasnt updated to ICS but neither was any other phone from it's time.
It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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If you cut down the SGSII variants that are a problem of the carriers, the number of devices goes down.
Plus, they should be working in the update of the Xperia S even before it's release. I dunno why they did this the way they did. They screwed up big time IMO.
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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HTC is updating most of it's phones as well, even the desire HD which was launched in 2010!! You cant expect them to update something like the wildfire S with a 600mhz CPU and 512MB ROM. The minimum xperia phone getting updated is 1Ghz CPU and 1GB ROM.
Samsung did mess up yes but not on their flagship, do you even know the S2 has started shipping with ICS out of the box? The verge reviewer has no idea what he is talking about.
I never recommend the cheaper samsung phones to anyone but to try to put the S3 in a negative spot because of how samsung treats it's cheaper phones is ridiculous.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_in_india_is_now_shipping_with_android_40_ics-news-4273.php
The reviewer of The Verge is the guy who got his heart broken by Samsung in the release of the S3.
I'm just pleased to see that he did gave a 0 to the phone.
Another plus for the S3, the dev support it will have will likely be unprecedent. It's already the most preordered gadget in history (sure, the number is much higher than the real purchases because some people have pre ordered different collors and memory amount just to be safe).
Motorola sucks. I hope that with it's new CEO things will change there and they get back on the right track of producing great phones. My Motorola Milestone (2009) is able to run CM9 with it's OMAP3 550mhz (overclocked at 1ghz) and 256mb of RAM, pretty impressive for a device with a locked bootloader, IMO.
I agree with you that Xperia S is better, but your reason isn't right. The thing is everyone's impressed with the s3's specs like qead-core processor although it is something you definitely don't need these days. You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
Long story short, Samsung is putting a lot of effort on over mighty specifications you don't need, maybe just for the once who compare it to the S by specs only. The ICS delay is annoying I must say, but it is not that terrible.. Another month is not THAT much.
Xperia S is sexy, awesome display and camera, and very fast. Sony is my choice.
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You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
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They said the same thing about 1Ghz single core CPU's, they always say xyz will always be enough forever but it is never the case. The biggest limitation of xperia S is actually the GPU which really could have been better for 720p resolution. 1.5Ghz dual core CPU and 1GB ram would not cause any issues for a long time.
Xperia S camera is not better just because it has more megapixels. I would think the camera is just about equal on both, the great feature the xperia S has is camera button.
And xperia has faster processor? lol wut?
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Did Samsung Galaxy S get ICS? And mind u, Samsung sold a butt load of those.
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To a few people here, easy guys. Let's have a constructive discussion and not a bashing one. I for one am not a Sony representative and am quite an objective gadget lover - have many devices including an iPod touch (because I love Apple's OS fluidoty), a Galaxy S2, the Xperia S and the Ray. It makes sense to love everything
Now to the point I wanted to make. Companies should sometimes care about customers too. The fact that X10 got 2.3 is huge. Do you remember Samsung's first galaxy having anything more than 1.6? Do you remember the HTC Hero with more than 2.1? Sony never left these customers in the lurch. Asking for ICS when you bought the X10 is like wishing for lifetime ice-cream supply.
I will tell you another case which I think everybody should know. Samsung quietly replaced the S2 I9100 with I9100G a couple of months ago in the Indian market. What do you say is all the fuss eh? The chipset inside is not a dual-core Exynos or Mali GFX chipset. It's replaced by Cortex A9 and PowerVR SGX540. The processor was underclocked. The GPU was inferior. Asked Samsung on Twitter and they said that chipsets have been replaced but they have similar performance. Benchmarks around the world suggested otherwise. So is Samsung being very clever? Would you like to buy something that is a lie and a false promise in the first place? They just released this model in developing markets because there was a Exynos shortage for European markets so they realised why not fool the mindless buyers of lowly markets!
And I have one question at the end of this - WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED SUCH MANIPULATIVE MARKET PRACTICES?
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Hardware debate again. The only valid argument for GSIII is its hardware.
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I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
Go with the XPS. We're not getting the GX (confirmed-ish), and you can maybe hope for the Ion. But not much else from Sony really.
If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
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I understand that. But for example, I wouldn't want to get a Galaxy S II a month ago just to have the S III be released this month. Trying to avoid that happening.
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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Is this supposed to be positive or negative?
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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BS!
SXS battery won't be worse than Desire's!
I bought SXS less than a month ago, switched from Galaxy Nexus and I don't regret it. You shouldn't focus only on hardware. User Experience is the most important thing. It's UX what makes you pleased when you use your phone and Sony (SE) knows how to make good UX. Aaaand it will get 4.0.4 soon, so you will have latest and greatest with better copy,cut,paste and way better google apps.
Hardware-wise this phone is gorgeous. It's got that "it", that cool-factor which makes everybody look twice on it and it's transparent bar on he bottom is just wow!
One more thing. It's got one of the best auto brightness I've ever seen on Android device. You don't hear something like this very often, but I think it is a detail which makes using YOUR phone pleasant. You don't have to fight with it. Finally it just works and you can forget about it
Just my 2 cents ^^
The XS is Sony's most powerful phone for this year (at least concerning Europe...)!
If you like it, I can absolutely recommend it.
Coming from a SGSII, there are TONS of reasons why I like Sony a lot more then Samsung... (Including the auto brightness, which IS brilliant!)
The Xperia S is great, and it recently dropped in price too (at least in Belgium). From €499 to €449 RRP. You can find it for around €400 easily. Which is a steal for this phone!
Get the store attendant to open the box and show you the build code before you buy, make sure you dont get an early one that will likely have the tint.
buy it....
kekkle said:
I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
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well, xperia S is international version of xperia ion ( well not exactly the same but you can say so). so as long as I know there is no ion for europe. and believe me if there is a place that xperia S is worth buying in, is europe. I wish I lived in europe so I could use any phone I liked. right now Im using xperia play r800i and its not working well here since its international version and not U.S version. so yea bro buy it. if u listen to me, dont buy it the same day it comes, let it b for a month then buy it, because at first they boost the price to jump the selling. i did this mistake with tablet s and bought it for 400 and now they sell it for 300 to students.. i bought it the very first day it came out.
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
kekkle said:
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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You can change it, but there arent any available YET. Its not simple either, so its not like you'd carry a spare, but if say in 18 months you wanted to replace the pack it'd be straight forward enough as long as you have the write screw bits for getting into a phone.
kekkle said:
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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I understand that it may be a issue for you, but seriously why would you want to replace it? It's a integral part of the phone so it's covered by the same 2 year warranty. If it will brake you will have it replaced
I have decided. I will be ordering my black Xperia S tomorrow morning.
I'm very happy
If you answered "yes", then which phone do you wish you had bought/waited and bought instead?
Honestly I've never have to mess around/repair a phone so much and still, 4 months after buying, not at all being happy with it. Mostly it's the battery life, but the software support/bugs got me wishing I had bought another phone instead. Maybe an Xperia V w/extended battery or just an HTC.
It's 70% no and 30% yes.
I really dig this design, seriously, it's gorgeous! And the build materials...LOVE IT!
However...the camera isn't as impressive as I was expecting (my Xperia Pro took pretty damn good photos and sometimes, it was even better than my XP), the dual-core processor didn't blew me away and I'm kinda worried that we won't get an update past 4.1 (which kinda sucks, since I bought the phone 3 months ago).
When I bought XP, I was considering LG L9 (which I still kinda want, save for the ugly design of course) or Galaxy Advance (which was uglier and more expensive). If I get the chance I do would trade my XP for an L9.
But still, I love Sony's UI and apps, so I really never get tired of the phone, and the design will never feel old, nor outdated for me. It can be said that I'm quite happy with the phone, but I still would like to try that L9 phone.
Also, I kinda would like to return to a Galaxy Note (1), while the design is kinda bland, I really would like to experience having a big screen with some few tweaks, besides, I can just install Sony's apps on it.
i am using an xperia sola. i dont really bother about the build design and all but having the latest software means the most to me. its not that sola cant run the latest OS but its the bad chipset with virtually no developer support. So yes 80% i regret buying it. Everytime you buy a new gadget you learn something new. So next time i buy a phone ill ensure the chipset is only from qualcomm.
AW: Do you regret buying your Xperia P?
A clear no
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no ! waiting for JB hehe to be honest just dont like the batter 4hours screen on time with wifi,games but not so heavy , overall performance i like the XP but i want to try xperia Z
Absolutly not, it's my first Androdi Phone but when I compare it with my friends phone, I really prefer mine.
Im already satisfied with my device, but im also worried we wont have an update past 4.1,...i guess this will be the last firmware we'll receive.
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Yes and No, its a sweet phone but i'am not happy with the battery life =\ The screen is god but the reception is not as good as on my HTC One V work phone...
I have rooted it to get rid of all the crapy Sony stuff... next time I think I will buy a Nexus device
Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
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Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
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+1. maybe a little more RnD on our part and we should have gone for a snapdragon powered phone.
I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
Yes.. Poor front camera, few custom roms (didnt release source code) .. I should get samsung s2..
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No 'cause it's better than my former Atrix, it's more smother, more efficient than Moto and is so well build. Imho i will choose once again P. Of course there are better phones but also more expensive than P.
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I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
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I dont know about you, but about the time I bought my Xperia U, there was no dual core CPU in the market for the price of the xperia U. I was told the battery lasted about 10 hours and as of now, I'm not disappointed with that claim. Sure, as of now, you have plenty of alternatives for a dual core with those mediatek ones even pumping out quad-core ones [which aren't as far off in benchmarks than our novathor chips].
And to be honest, the only problem I have is not having jelly bean. Then again, if we're being realistic, unless someone bought this phone purely for development [which in that case would be pretty damn dumb and they should have done more research] the phone doesn't falter back. My U satisfies whatever I throw at it at a day to basis [Regular Browser use, music, radio when on stock rom, calling and normal moderate-graphic-intensive-games] I don't see why anybody is complaining. considering the GUI is vitrtually the same as ICS save for project butter [which if you've seen on the xperia J is absolute rubbish]
Just my 2 cents.
EDIT:- Oh and like people have already said before at the price of an Xperia P you will not find the class of build quality observed on any other non-Sony device.
totally regret my xperia p, i live in Canada so i cant really get much for the device over here, plus battery sucks, and yeah kind of sick of messing with my device just so that it will work..its laggy and i should have waited for xperia z or nexus 4, which im probably gonna go get one or the other anyway....so sick of it lol
I dont regret...
I have Lumia 820 and Xperia P.
I bought the XP for 280 USD which is by far cheaper to another phones with the same specs.
Clearly i dont like the battery or the camera (is fine, not great as L820 but who cares)
+1 to that mate i have absolutely no regrets over this phone
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Could have been better, could have been worse
For almost the same price o could have gotten the S2, so a little regret but not too much... it is a good phone
If nexus 4 was out I would've got that, and if I understood the limitations of Novathor might've looked elsewhere. But this is a decent phone for sure, best mid range imo
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I know Sony has said there are no plans for a Tablet S upgrade, but I was wondering on your thoughts about if they might change their mind. Really hoping on it, personally. I'll keep my fingers crossed; all this tab needs is JB.
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There wont be JB update for Tablet S. Sony are so lazy, it took them almost a year to release 4.1.1, i doubt they will work on JB for the S (although its generally the same)...
As ubichon said, I highly doubt there'll be a JB update for Tablet S. Not only did it take almost a year for the Xperia Tab S, but the fact that TS was a 2011 device makes it even less feasible. No Xperia device from 2011 got JB
If they would open up the dang bootloader then devs would prob do it. I mean there's ICS and JB roms for the xplay even though Sony never updated anything since GB
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Someone know why sony dont unleash the s1 ?
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Someone know why sony dont unleash the s1 ?
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Too much effort. Porting JB to S1 can be seen as 'waste of time and resources' when the xperia tablet z is almost out, and maintenance of an old tablet by VAIO isn't high on the priority list for their department (and understandably so, since VAIO doesn't specialise in tabs but rather computers, and S1 is 2 years old)
Simply business
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Too much effort. Porting JB to S1 can be seen as 'waste of time and resources' when the xperia tablet z is almost out, and maintenance of an old tablet by VAIO isn't high on the priority list for their department (and understandably so, since VAIO doesn't specialise in tabs but rather computers, and S1 is 2 years old)
Simply business
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Unlocking the bootloader would surely not take much effort...would be a proper sendoff for the original Tablet S anyways. Not really a sendoff because it would only be the beginning...
I'm not buying another Sony phone or tablet ever again!
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I'm not buying another Sony phone or tablet ever again!
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You sir, are an imbecile, if this is simply based off of your experience with either of the Tablet S's. No offense.
Sony phones have always been made by the Ericsson/Sony Mobile team, which has been very speedy with updates (as of last year and this year) and has always supported the Android community wholeheartedly. In fact, Sony was named OEM of the year by this very site. The reason the Tablet S's have had horrible support is due to the fact that they are managed by an understaffed VAIO team that never was focusing on Android products in the first place.
But wait! There is good news! The Xperia Tablet Z, which is set to be Sony's next flagship tablet, is being developed by the Mobile team! So we can expect awesome support, unlocked bootloaders, etc.
Don't hate on Sony on the Android front; they've been quite amazing at supporting the community since last year-ish (maybe longer).
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You sir, are an imbecile, if this is simply based off of your experience with either of the Tablet S's. No offense.
Sony phones have always been made by the Ericsson/Sony Mobile team, which has been very speedy with updates (as of last year and this year) and has always supported the Android community wholeheartedly. In fact, Sony was named OEM of the year by this very site. The reason the Tablet S's have had horrible support is due to the fact that they are managed by an understaffed VAIO team that never was focusing on Android products in the first place.
But wait! There is good news! The Xperia Tablet Z, which is set to be Sony's next flagship tablet, is being developed by the Mobile team! So we can expect awesome support, unlocked bootloaders, etc.
Don't hate on Sony on the Android front; they've been quite amazing at supporting the community since last year-ish (maybe longer).
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It's a shame people are too daft to realize this, especially with the whole Xperia S JB update drama. Sony is kind enough to create a update, they could just not update it at all.
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I disagree with you! I'm entitled to my opinion! if i spend my hard-earned cash on a product, should i not expect the makers of that product to put any issues right? you are talking as if money grows on trees! Sony should take some responsibilities and stop making excuses!
You can have an opinion, but you shouldn't expect a company to do what you want. They are at least doing something to get the updates to the consumer, why would they want to spend money developing updates for a device you already paid for. You have to remember too that Sony is going under a huge financial crisis, the mobile division has a budget and limited people.
Excluding the tablets, Sony easily allows you to flash different roms and root, you could easily have a custom JB build on the Xperia S right now hell I just checked there's a 4.2.2 rom.
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Asiansniper911 said:
You can have an opinion, but you shouldn't expect a company to do what you want. They are at least doing something to get the updates to the consumer, why would they want to spend money developing updates for a device you already paid for. You have to remember too that Sony is going under a huge financial crisis, the mobile division has a budget and limited people.
Excluding the tablets, Sony easily allows you to flash different roms and root, you could easily have a custom JB build on the Xperia S right now hell I just checked there's a 4.2.2 rom.
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Sony mobile allow us to do stuff to xperia phones. It's Sony VAIO that don't Allow us for the sts and xts
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Sony mobile allow us to do stuff to xperia phones. It's Sony VAIO that don't Allow us for the sts and xts
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Exactly. Sony Mobile is full of open minden people, who even release their own flash tools, their own instructions how to unlock bootloader, they release kernel sources etc. etc. etc.
If you look at the Xperia Z - there are already Custom Roms for it, including AOSP and CM. Phones like Xperia S or the Xperia ARC S also have tons of mods and roms....
ty for the answers !
i really really really regrets my purchase when i see my girlfriend's touchpad Cm 10.1 !
i have many stuff by sony, but my last smartphone is not sony,
too afraid they will not unlock the phone.
edit : customers dont have to give a f** if its sony mobile or sony vaio or what u want, they just see SONY
hyrk said:
edit : customers dont have to give a f** if its sony mobile or sony vaio or what u want, they just see SONY
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Yeah, totally agree on that. I was just making a point, that the Sony phones have nothing in common with the tablets
It don't matter which department makes what it's all part of the same company and it's SONY's LOGO on the products, therefore its the SONY Brand which is getting the stick, and consumers will feel let down by this, it's not a point of updating to JB it's about fixing the issues with the Tablet, and as a whole SONY have let some customers down badly, we don't really care which department made the dame thing,
If you went to Mac D's and your burger was raw and you took it back to the counter and the person said to you sorry there's nothing i can do because i don't normaly make burgers i normaly fry chips you would say thats stupid i just want what i ordered, well the same applies here i just want a fully working product. I don't care who's job it is. I paid £359 only 14 months ago for a product with flaws.
See what i'm saying the fries have nothing to do with the burgers but it's still Mac D's
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It don't matter which department makes what it's all part of the same company and it's SONY's LOGO on the products, therefore its the SONY Brand which is getting the stick, and consumers will feel let down by this, it's not a point of updating to JB it's about fixing the issues with the Tablet, and as a whole SONY have let some customers down badly, we don't really care which department made the dame thing,
If you went to Mac D's and your burger was raw and you took it back to the counter and the person said to you sorry there's nothing i can do because i don't normaly make burgers i normaly fry chips you would say thats stupid i just want what i ordered, well the same applies here i just want a fully working product. I don't care who's job it is. I paid £359 only 14 months ago for a product with flaws.
See what i'm saying the fries have nothing to do with the burgers but it's still Mac D's
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Does that mean you wouldn't buy a Sony tv or camera?
No it doesn't I was just making the point of it doesn't matter which department made it, the support should be there to fix problems that affect functionality and stop the device from not doing what it was intended to do.
What it does mean though is I prefer Burger King to Mac D's
Well said! Its not too much to ask sony to fix the issues, if not unlock the bootloader and let the devs solve the issues.
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