Does anyone have the FM radio working post amber firmware update on AT&T? If so do you have Data Sense as well? I have neither.
Never mind. I have OS version 8.0.10211.204 Portico, even after updating. Looks like the new AT&T version isn't out yet.
Interesting that I can download the "Amber Only" apps now.
kkrull said:
Does anyone have the FM radio working post amber firmware update on AT&T? If so do you have Data Sense as well? I have neither.
Never mind. I have OS version 8.0.10211.204 Portico, even after updating. Looks like the new AT&T version isn't out yet.
Interesting that I can download the "Amber Only" apps now.
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To my knowledge there is no FM tuner/receiver in the L920. So even with a ROM that has the tuner app. you will still not get radio becuase there is no hardware to support it.
Solarenemy68 said:
To my knowledge there is no FM tuner/receiver in the L920. So even with a ROM that has the tuner app. you will still not get radio becuase there is no hardware to support it.
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you are wrong on this. IIRC, only Lumia 620 doesn't come with FM radio hardware.
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To my knowledge there is no FM tuner/receiver in the L920. So even with a ROM that has the tuner app. you will still not get radio becuase there is no hardware to support it.
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LOL
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To my knowledge there is no FM tuner/receiver in the L920. So even with a ROM that has the tuner app. you will still not get radio becuase there is no hardware to support it.
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Not correct. FM Radio is built into the Snapdragon SoC.
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Not correct. FM Radio is built into the Snapdragon SoC.
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being built in and being functional are two different things. Video cards have many more data pipelines on them then are used on lower models. They are disabled and require circuit board mods to enable them on lower models.
Also I suggest you do a Google search on "does the lumia 920 have an FM receiver?" and see what you get. The answers all say no.
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being built in and being functional are two different things. Video cards have many more data pipelines on them then are used on lower models. They are disabled and require circuit board mods to enable them on lower models.
Also I suggest you do a Google search on "does the lumia 920 have an FM receiver?" and see what you get. The answers all say no.
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Then they are wrong as well.
Just because you use a nice analogy doesn't make you correct.
My L920 has it with the Amber update. It was one of the touted features, that being, to enable the fm radio of the SoC.
This is my phone. Cropped to take out mac addresses. FM radio is there for Amber updated Lumia 920s.
And to the OP, yes, Data Sense is there too. I use that as well.
I see that you are running the T-Mobile version ... so it is still not clear till the AT&T OTA version gets delivered if we can be certain that the data sense is supported by AT&T ...
The FM radio has never been in doubt in my mind ...
I played with my wife's 1020, and don't remember seeing data sense, so my guess is that it is not supported, but wait till the OTA comes to my 920 to see ...
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I see that you are running the T-Mobile version ... so it is still not clear till the AT&T OTA version gets delivered if we can be certain that the data sense is supported by AT&T ...
The FM radio has never been in doubt in my mind ...
I played with my wife's 1020, and don't remember seeing data sense, so my guess is that it is not supported, but wait till the OTA comes to my 920 to see ...
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I'm running on T-Mobile, but with the unbranded RM-821 software. The phone is an original AT&T Lumia 920 that was unlocked. I recently switched to T-Mobile and installed Amber. Everything works.
And yes, I agree with your doubts that AT&T will allow FM Radio or Data Sense.
If that's the case, then you can always flash with the unbranded RM-821 to get it working.
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I'm running on T-Mobile, but with the unbranded RM-821 software. The phone is an original AT&T Lumia 920 that was unlocked. I recently switched to T-Mobile and installed Amber. Everything works.
And yes, I agree with your doubts that AT&T will allow FM Radio or Data Sense.
If that's the case, then you can always flash with the unbranded RM-821 to get it working.
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Does the lte radio work for you on tmo after the rebrand? only thing holding me back on my 920 as tmo just refarmed my area
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Does the lte radio work for you on tmo after the rebrand? only thing holding me back on my 920 as tmo just refarmed my area
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Yes, the LTE radio worked fine for T-Mobile once I initially swapped out my AT&T sim with the T-Mobile one. I didn't even have to change any of the APN settings to get data or MMS to work.
Now, once I flashed my phone with the international Amber version, I could not get LTE to show up in the dropdown no matter what APN settings I tried. No worries, since I'm getting on average 10+Mbps down. I only need about 3Mbps to stream my music everyday for my commute.
Here's a screenshot to what I'm talking about. 2G, 3G, and 4G. No LTE like I had before.
This thread is not about the radio you can get over your cell/data connection. Any phone can do that.. We are talking about the FM radio that picks up the same channels as your car using the headphone wire as an antenna. That is the part that is in question here as most reports say it is disabled at the hardware level on the ATT model.
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This thread is not about the radio you can get over your cell/data connection. Any phone can do that.. We are talking about the FM radio that picks up the same channels as your car using the headphone wire as an antenna. That is the part that is in question here as most reports say it is disabled at the hardware level on the ATT model.
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Of course. I thought I answered that question too.
AT&T version of HTC 8X GDR2 update comes with FM radio but no data sense. AT&T 1020 comes with Amber and GDR2 and it does not come with data sense (not sure about radio). So, we can say for sure that AT&T L920 Amber update will not come with Data Sense. FM radio is a maybe.
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AT&T version of HTC 8X GDR2 update comes with FM radio but no data sense. AT&T 1020 comes with Amber and GDR2 and it does not come with data sense (not sure about radio). So, we can say for sure that AT&T L920 Amber update will not come with Data Sense. FM radio is a maybe.
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AT&T DEV 920 Amber update come with Data Sense & Radio in Music & Videos HUB
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AT&T DEV 920 Amber update come with Data Sense & Radio in Music & Videos HUB
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I can confirm this. ATT 920, flashed Rogers pre-portico, then portico then back to ATT Dev. Radio does indeed exist in the Music Hub and function on the ATT 920. It worked right after the flash before I updated any of the nokia amber app updates so it seems like it's part of the ROM. You may have an issues with your flash if it's not working for you.
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I can confirm this. ATT 920, flashed Rogers pre-portico, then portico then back to ATT Dev. Radio does indeed exist in the Music Hub and function on the ATT 920. It worked right after the flash before I updated any of the nokia amber app updates so it seems like it's part of the ROM. You may have an issues with your flash if it's not working for you.
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I just want to confirm that by radio in the hub we are not referring to ATT radio or Metro Radio? If we are, those are not FM radio. They are streamed over your data connection.
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I just want to confirm that by radio in the hub we are not referring to ATT radio or Metro Radio? If we are, those are not FM radio. They are streamed over your data connection.
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I'm not sure why you think it's a hard concept to grasp seeing as how it's in the title and someone has already posted a screen cap, but just incase, here are a few more.
My 920 running 1314 firm wares has radio software version 1.0.20209MT.3 installed as well but no radio listed in the hub. So if that is the case all they did is added a software tuner to the ROM which is already available on the store. No real event to write about then.
Related
For those wanting to upgrade only their radio I have uploaded the following RUU packages:
Radio 1.02.25.31 (Cingular)
Radio 1.02.25.19 (HTC)
Radio 1.02.25.11 (HTC)
Radio 1.01.25.16 (Cingular)
Each of the packages already contains an ROM updater which does not erase your phone, so your operating system and settings will remain intact.
Note: You need to have HardSPL before attempting to flash these!
Remember that flashing anything on your phone is always at your own risk.
I have updated my HTC Touch Pro to from Radio 1.02.25.19 to Radio 1.02.25.31 without any problems.
Update 1: Added Cingular Radio 1.01.25.16
THANK YOU now i try in my diamond
Do these radios work also on Diamond ?
They will not flash in your Diamond if your Diamond radio is security locked.
I would advise against flashing Raphael radio's in your Diamond, there is no reason to.
It could work because the chipset is the same, but why take the chance to brick your phone by flashing a radio which is not meant for it.
Do you see any improvement with .31 radio?
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
What about the Cingular one..? Anyone try this in the US to see if the 3g is now present..?
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
as with the roms thread, the info is in the wiki pages already.
Although do keep discussion on the radio performance open
3g radio work in North America?
I bought the Diamond in the UK and haven't gotten anything but EDGE. Will any of the RADIO updates address this or is it a hardware problem ?
mallman said:
i flashed my touch pro with .31 and it went perfectly. In fact my US AT&T shows G. Not sure if that is the same as 3G but i am also at work where i have bad reception so that may play into it
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I believe it should be showing and H icon..
darkvoid said:
Tested it for about an hour or so now.
Can't say I noticed any difference, but I only tested it around the house. Reception around here is generally very bad and it seems to hold up nicely, so its definitely not worse then the previous radio.
GPRS, EDGE and HSPDA seem to work fine.
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Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
gatordent said:
Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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That's something I would like to know as well...
gatordent said:
Are you in the USA??? on ATT???
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Nope, I'm in Europe (The Netherlands).
BoldFace said:
I believe it should be showing and H icon..
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not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
i've tried to flash radio and it went 100% in 5 seconds. phone started but no radi was updated. any thoughts?
H is in fact in US...
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not in USA i dont think. my last 3g phone only showed 3g
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My TyTN II would show 3G most of the time in the Chicago area. It would switch to H whenever it was downloading. That's the ONLY THING I miss having now that I got the TP...Edge is too terribly slow to do anything but update the weather and my RSS feeds off hours (like at 3AM).
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Can canadians use these 3g radio updates? I have a UK phone and i'm only getting EDGE right now
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
Hey mixmaven, go read the other raphael radio thread, this was answered already!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568960&postcount=35
-me
mixmaven said:
So what was decided about Diamond radios? I know the discussion was started but was there a conclusion? I like the radio on my diamond much better than .19 on the Pro.
TIA
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In case anyone's interested...
http://content.modaco.net/EPE54BvsERE36B.html
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Can anyone tell us little people what this means?
i think the blue highlighted lines are the changed files
Yeah, do tell in layman terms to us "smallies" ;-)
//Å
White = matching, green = changed.
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Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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paulobrien said:
Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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Wonder what that addition does.
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Wonder what that addition does.
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maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
Nobody seem to have noticed that EPE54B is signed with test-keys and ERE36B with release keys...
Are the apk's also not throwing a lot of useless debug output ?
Not running it!
In my experience most of android throws out useless debug crap.
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hjlow said:
maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
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Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
tokyomonster said:
Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
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Couldn't this just be resolved with a radio update from Google. I mean GSM is GSM, it's about receiving the right bandwidth which is controlled by the radio. Unless I am missing something, I believe google could push out an update for the radio that supported both TMO and ATT's 3G bandwidth.
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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That's too bad...
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
SiNJiN76 said:
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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I'm sure he was just pulling your leg... no one's stupid enough to ask that question when it's been answered repeatedly, most recently two posts above his own.
Hey there,
been having frequent signal cuts lately after flashing ATT radios on my international Atrix.
However, I did not find any hint about which radios can be used on international phones and which should not.
So, what radio should one use with an international Atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
look here
or google search
xda fruitcake for international atrix
ltdanno360 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
look here
or google search
xda fruitcake for international atrix
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Yeees...actually I did look there, but there is no information given about international devices. Each time someone brings a question regarding international phones, the discussion seems to overhear it.
There is just ATT (USA) and Bell (Canada) radios. It might be true, there exists an older Orange (UK) radio in the unlock thread. However, I started to wonder why there is no update on any other radio but overseas.
You know, either ATT/Bell really suck, making frequent radio updates neccessary, or Orange/O2/*insert any european carreer here* are plain lazy.
Edit: Ahh, right, the signal loss. Yes, I lost my mobile signal several times on Gingermod#4. Well, but everyone there insists on the signal loss being my fault for whatever I dont know reason at all.
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Yeees...actually I did look there, but there is no information given about international devices. Each time someone brings a question regarding international phones, the discussion seems to overhear it.
There is just ATT (USA) and Bell (Canada) radios. It might be true, there exists an older Orange (UK) radio in the unlock thread. However, I started to wonder why there is no update on any other radio but overseas.
You know, either ATT/Bell really suck, making frequent radio updates neccessary, or Orange/O2/*insert any european carreer here* are plain lazy.
Edit: Ahh, right, the signal loss. Yes, I lost my mobile signal several times on Gingermod#4. Well, but everyone there insists on the signal loss being my fault for whatever I dont know reason at all.
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which specifc international device are ya referring to sir? french german china
zimbobway(if they even had atrix there)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222757
check this out!
ltdanno360 said:
which specifc international device are ya referring to sir? french german china
zimbobway(if they even had atrix there)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222757
check this out!
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Ah, thanks, it is a german atrix btw.
I restored my darkside prefinal backup with faux kernel + ATT .30p radio and everything works fine.
The signal cut issue might be related to using ATT radios and international stock kernels which I used in gingermod#4.
Will test and report
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Seems like the issue was not kernel related from the start. Freezing "data manger service" and "home"-launcher is not save on every ROM.
For those that have been lucky enough to have received the i747 model, are you able to determine if there is an FM Radio tuner on it? I checked out the LTE i747 yesterday at the Samsung launch party in Toronto but I beleive they were pre-production models and firmware and did NOT have the FM app. Now whether the tuner exists but the app was removed or not added is a different story.
As many of you know, the international model has the FM tuner. In the past, the international model i9000 and i9100 also had it but the North American variants did not. I am not sure if the fm hardware tuner is located on the CPU itself and does not come onboard the s4 chip, or if AT&T and other carriers have decided to remove it.
In the specs for the i747, most sites list the Fm Radio as TBD for this model. I don't use the radio a lot, but it is nice sometimes. Also, it uses barely any battery and no data to use. So I am very curious if the FM app is there. And if not, I wonder if we could just extract the app from i9300 and move it to this model - which would require the i747 to have the hardware tuner of course.
There doesn't seem to be a FM app - So no direct access that I could see. Doesn't mean its not there though.
Not sure if it will work, but here is the apk from the international version.
Matrioux said:
There doesn't seem to be a FM app - So no direct access that I could see. Doesn't mean its not there though.
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Not sure if it will work, but here is the apk from the international version.
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Thanks for posting the apk. It may require root as it is a system app but will defintiely try it when I get mine next week. I am fairly certain the HTC One X had the same thing where the FM Radio exists but the apk was not added to the AT&T firmware. People can grab the APK from the Rogers firmware and install it to their AT&T One X. So now that I think about it, if HTC One X has the hardware tuner and using an S4 chip, its completely possible that the hardware will be there on the i747 as well. Some carriers may have it removed so that you'll use data to listen to the radio instead.
Won't install - but after root we may be able to
.... Surely AT&T didn't screw the hardware of of FM AGAIN
I also couldnt get that file to install, so instead i went to the market and downloaded just about every one i could find, and none of them worked. Many of them appeared to be working but not a single bit of sound out of the speakers/headset.
I believe they removed the FM Tuner hardware and instead, gave us the tunein app.
Yea so you use more data streaming data over their network
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Yea so you use more data streaming data over their network
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I doubt that was their goal. AT&T didnt give us the 50GB of dropbox because they were afraid of everyone eating bandwidth and causing a network catastrophe like when the first iPhone came out. So i think its safe to assume that this was Samsungs move. They didnt give us the quad core because of incompatibilities with the LTE networks, so instead they gave us the Snapdragon S4 and compensated with an extra gig of ram.
They also removed the FM Radio, so i think they compensated by giving us the TuneIn Radio.... kinda lame....
I used the i9100 prior to picking up my new SGH-747M from Rogers yesterday. The i9100 had FM radio. The antenna was built into the headphones and there was an application on the phone. I noticed the SGH-747 headphones looked slightly different and wasn't sure if they would work.
I downloaded the international FM APK but it won't install even after my device has been rooted.. My guess is that the headphones that come with the i747 probably won't have an FM antenna built in though.
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I used the i9100 prior to picking up my new SGH-747M from Rogers yesterday. The i9100 had FM radio. The antenna was built into the headphones and there was an application on the phone. I noticed the SGH-747 headphones looked slightly different and wasn't sure if they would work.
I downloaded the international FM APK but it won't install even after my device has been rooted.. My guess is that the headphones that come with the i747 probably won't have an FM antenna built in though.
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Any headphones will work as the antenna.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
I downloaded the Next Radio app and it works.
I even disabled data and WiFi to make sure it was only using FM radio and it worked, unlike my Axon 7 where it seem FM receiver locked and only works with Data or WiFi.
Just in case anyone else didn't know this was a possibility, as I didn't initially.
for how long did you leave wifi and cell data off for?
I can confirm this works. Disabled WiFi, data, cleared cache and data of next radio, plugged headphones in and it works! N950W (Canada version with Snapdragon)
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I can confirm this works. Disabled WiFi, data, cleared cache and data of next radio, plugged headphones in and it works! N950W (Canada version with Snapdragon)
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Not long. I turns off days and wifi then tested the radio and changed through several radio stations with no issues. My Axon 7 would not play local station s with WiFi and data disabled. So it appears to be working.
Maybe I'll test again tonight when I get home.
BTW I'm on the AT&T Note 8, though that shouldn't make I difference.
Which Versions are using Snapdragon? Also i heard those can not be rooted. Is that true? Thanks
jotade said:
Which Versions are using Snapdragon? Also i heard those can not be rooted. Is that true? Thanks
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Yes, Snapdragon version. I believe only the Snapdragon version has the FM tuner so the exynos version won't work with FM radio.
And yes I believe the Snapdragon version is locked down and not rootable so far. But that's not a big deal to me.
The easiest way to check if the phone uses FM radio or wifi/cell network is to disconnect headphones, FM radio needs headphones wire as antenna and it won't work without it unless maybe if you live right under FM tower, also if you're far away from the station you may hear FM interference. BTW working FM radio was confirmed way back, couple days after first sets reached customers, before 9/10 I think.
I am on Verizon and i can confirm it works and it is relying on the antenna unless I click the stream button.i also bunched up the headphones in my hand and put it on output to speaker and there is static on the weaker stations.
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The easiest way to check if the phone uses FM radio or wifi/cell network is to disconnect headphones, FM radio needs headphones wire as antenna and it won't work without it unless maybe if you live right under FM tower, also if you're far away from the station you may hear FM interference. BTW working FM radio was confirmed way back, couple days after first sets reached customers, before 9/10 I think.
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Ok Thanks. But can you write the exact model please? I read jus N950W but which one else. Thans
jotade said:
Ok Thanks. But can you write the exact model please? I read jus N950W but which one else. Thans
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I think all Snapdragon powered phones should work, unless specifically blocked in software by some network provides, but haven't heard of any.
As far as I know Exynos don't have the radio.
Any good tuner app? Next radio have tuner something else?
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Any good tuner app? Next radio have tuner something else?
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All the other FM radio apps seem to use data instead of the tuner chip in the Snapdragon SOC.
I like the simple tuner app on my LG V20. It allows my to long press or hit a time button to get the next in time station. NextRadio seem to your your location and data to give you a list of stations and info.
I'm going to see if I can find an APK for the V20 tuner and try it on my Note 8.
I am also interested in a real simple tuner app. Let me know if you come across any good ones
Was looking on h-droid and app stored and next rádio only one i have found up to now. The LG V20 apk would be great if work in note8.
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I am also interested in a real simple tuner app. Let me know if you come across any good ones
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Was looking on h-droid and app stored and next rádio only one i have found up to now. The LG V20 apk would be great if work in note8.
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I found and tried the FM Radio app from LG, Sony and Samsung with the following results:
- LG app would not install
- Samsung app would not install
- Sony app installed but would not run/open.
So far it seems NextRadio is the only option for now.
Thank for trying
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I think all Snapdragon powered phones should work, unless specifically blocked in software by some network provides, but haven't heard of any.
As far as I know Exynos don't have the radio.
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Well my brother has S8 Plus G955U (Snapdragon) and nextradio dosent work. Thats why i want to know which version of Note 8 are really working. I need to listen FM Radio because of my job. I read N955W does it, but which one else? Thanks
SM-N950U works, bought directly from Samsung for t-mobile
Also have the SM-N950U but mine is an AT&T device. I would imagine the FM Radio works on all Snapdragon Note 8, but that's just an assumption.
Not sure why your brother S8 Plus. Did he have headphones attached? I don't really know much about the S8 line move looked into that model.
My s8 from t-mobile worked fine, so is N8 from t-mo. I think all US models are N950U and Snapdragon, so all should work, but as I already mentioned it could be blocked by particular service provider, BUT as far as I know, even if you have phone from T-mo or Verizon, you could flash it with different software and probably unlock it, even if it is locked. So the answer to your question may not be as simple as it seems. Also, which service your brothers S8+ came from? Is it Verizon? Because in the past they liked to make life of their customers miserable, like not allowing any non Verizon phone on their network, just to give an example.