I have a Kindle Fire HD 7" and an iPhone 4. I wanted to use the KFHD as a larger moving map for the car, but as I found out, the KFHD has no real GPS. I managed to use my iPhone as a bluetooth provider for GPS information that could be routed to the KFHD. I know that many people have gotten their KFHD to work with GPS, but I haven't seen anyone list an iPhone, specifically, as the provider. I can't go into great detail here, but suffice to say, all of the techniques and apps mentioned here can be found on this forum. What a great resource!
1.) Jailbreak the iPhone. I have a 6.1.3 semi-tethered jailbreak.
2.) Set up a personal hotspot on the iPhone, to provide the KFHD with map information.
3.) Download TryGPSOut from Cydia on the iPhone. It's $1, I believe. This routes the internal iPhone GPS through bluetooth.
4.) Root the KFHD.
5.) Install Bluetooth GPS Provider. The one I use is NOT the one by movilej.de, but the one by Michael Chourdakis (Google Play).
6.) Enable Mock Locations. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362472)
Open TryGPSOut, turn it on, enable personal hotspot, connect to the hotspot on the KFHD through wireless, pair the iPhone and the KFHD with bluetooth (note: the KFHD cannot connect to the iPhone. This is fine; it just needs to pair up with it). Open Bluetooth GPS Provider and select the iPhone. You should see Bluetooth GPS Provider registering the coordinates from the iPhone.
Although, with some trouble, Google Maps seems to register the GPS location, Navigation does not work; it still searches for the GPS. However, Waze, OruxMaps, and a few others work perfectly with this system. I've switched over to Waze for my driving navigation, and it tracks my position quite well.
Update:
To insure that you can download the latest version from the Google Play store of some of the aforementioned Android apps, install Market Helper (http://codekiem.com/2013/02/13/market-helper/), which allows the Play store to think that the KFHD is another device such as a phone. Otherwise, some programs, like the GPS Provider software, are prohibited from being downloaded to the Kindle.
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Will TetherGPS (Lite or Full) work with any ROMs on the GTab. Would love to have a 10inch GPS.
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Will TetherGPS (Lite or Full) work with any ROMs on the GTab. Would love to have a 10inch GPS.
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Dont see why not, but the only reason that came out was because the nook color had no bluetooth (at the time), which the gtab has.
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Dont see why not, but the only reason that came out was because the nook color had no bluetooth (at the time), which the gtab has.
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how does bluetooth help with GPS? I guess im missing something
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how does bluetooth help with GPS? I guess im missing something
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Bluetooth tether to get gps from your phone or from bluetooth gps receiver.
Tethergps is a client/server app which sends gps data over 2 wifi tethered android devices. For example, I wifi tether my droid x to my nook color, and send gps info from droid x to nook color.
TetherGPS does not wok on VEGAn 5.1.1 on the Gtablet. If I remember correctly, someone tried it on one of the TnT-lite variants as well with no success.
ShareGPS (on an android phone) and BluetoothGPS on the tablet will work for GPS data from the phone to the tablet over a bluetooth connection. Then WiFi tether for data.
An alternative would be to get a cheap Bluetooth GPS receiver and pair it with the gtab, and use one of several utilities in the market to feed the data to a mapping application of your choice. Kinda how we used to do it in the ppc PDA days.
Thanks I can pair the 2 but, I can not get the phone and GTab to talk to each other. I do have a BT GPS and it pairs it to the GTab. What utility would you suggest to start with to get the GPS to match with the navigation software.
For Turn-by-Turn, why do you still need WiFi?
I bought the external GPS receiver, and Google Maps work, but to get turn-by-turn, I have to WiFi tether to my Droid phone. Why?
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I bought the external GPS receiver, and Google Maps work, but to get turn-by-turn, I have to WiFi tether to my Droid phone. Why?
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Navigation needs connectivity to setup the route. Once the route is setup and 'cached' you can drop your connection, so long as you don't vary from the route. Any re-calculation needs connectivity.
for off-line navigation try Co-Pilot. It's pretty cheap (I Think $5.00 for USA). It stores the map files on your SDcard so no connectivity is needed.
Also, I'm pretty sure the latest google maps starts storing maps tiles locally as you drive around. Thus, the more you use it, the less dependent you are on a live connection.
+1 for bluetooth gps receiver, bluegps to interface, and co-pilot for nav.
I put up a new version of TetherGPS this morning which might solve certain crashing issues. If it still isn't working, and someone wants to help me test fixes (I don't have a g-tab), shoot me an e-mail at [email protected]
going to try out tehter gps since I can't seem to find blue gps to put on my tab. I found sharegps for my phone.
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Tether GPS Client FC's on me on my gTab running TNT lite.
I believe I've tracked down the FC problem. Give this APK a try. You will only need to install it on your tablet. The server on the phone is unchanged.
This is the lite version, but it includes a full client. If this works I'll push an update to the market for both versions.
http://comptonsoft.com/tethergps/RC/TGPS_Lite.apk
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
Ok, the last version might not have fixed it, but I'm pretty sure this one does.
If you downloaded the last one, try again, same link.
http://comptonsoft.com/tethergps/RC/TGPS_Lite.apk
I've got TetherGPS working on my Viewsonic g tablet running Brilliant Corners 1.2! The trick, you have to disable "Automatic Broadcast IP" and specify the servers (phones) ip address instead. I have a feeling this will work on other roms too!
1. Enable "use gps satellites" on both devices and enable "allow mock locations" on the tablet.
2. Download and install the latest version of TetherGPS on both devices and Wireless Tether on the phone.
3. Create a network using Wireless Tether. After tethering, the IP address you need can be found in Wireless Tether under menu>access control
4. Run TetherGPS on the phone and uncheck "Automatic Broadcast IP" and enter the IP address from step three into "Broadcast IP" and click Start Server.
5. Run TetherGPS on tablet and select Start Client.
6. Once you have it up and running put the widgets on both devices
Now that (hopefully) everything is working all you have to do next time you want to use this is
1. Start Wireless Tether and establish a connection from tablet.
2. Click TetherGPS server widget on phone.
3. Click TetherGPS client widget on tablet.
Hope this works for you too,
Sandman
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TetherGPS does not wok on VEGAn 5.1.1 on the Gtablet. If I remember correctly, someone tried it on one of the TnT-lite variants as well with no success.
ShareGPS (on an android phone) and BluetoothGPS on the tablet will work for GPS data from the phone to the tablet over a bluetooth connection. Then WiFi tether for data.
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+1 Share GPS on my HTC Inspire 4G. BluetoothGPS4Droid on my GTab running TNT Lite 4.4. Works like a charm!
Make sure Bluetooth is on on both devices. Make sure you have WiFi on your GTab (to load maps). I use the WiFi Tether program on my HTC Inspire 4G. Start ShareGPS on phone it will be "listening" and watch for the GPS coordinates to show up. Start BluetoothGPS4Droid on GTab, choose the phone device listed on top of settings, select check mark on SiRF GPS, set retrys to 5 and then select Start/Stop GPS. Phone should then recognize the GTab name and show connected. If not, select menu on ShareGPS and connect to. (You should see your device listed but you also have the option to pair if not listed)
Give it up to 1 min to acquire satellites and launch whatever mapping program you use... Enjoy~
Ok I'm reading to pick up one of these bluetooth GPS receivers and get my nook performing GPS duties. What software package is best? As I understand it, there is also some other little piece of software that I need to get the bluetooth info to port into the GPS software. Any ideas?
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Ok I'm reading to pick up one of these bluetooth GPS receivers and get my nook performing GPS duties. What software package is best? As I understand it, there is also some other little piece of software that I need to get the bluetooth info to port into the GPS software. Any ideas?
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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Does CoPilot Live require a data connection, or can one download all the mapsets to SD and run completely offline?
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Does CoPilot Live require a data connection, or can one download all the mapsets to SD and run completely offline?
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Once you download the maps, you're done. No data connection needed. However, I'm not sure how one would pull GPS location from a device with no GPS onboard?
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Once you download the maps, you're done. No data connection needed. However, I'm not sure how one would pull GPS location from a device with no GPS onboard?
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Read original post, he bought an external GPS blue tooth unit which he connects to the nook.
I just use my phone hooked up through an audio jack. I'm lucky enough to live where I don't have to worry about not having a data signal.
Disregard my previous lack of common sense. I can't see the forest for the trees sometimes. I need to look into this Bluetooth adapter. Sounds convenient.
I also have heard there is an additional bit of software needed for this to work as eluded to in my first post. Anyone know what I'm referring to? I will have to check out that CoPilot software.
You need the Bluetooth gps provider app. It's free in the market.
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I have had success running CM7 on internal memory with CoPilot Live USA ($4.99 from the market) in conjunction with the free Bluetooth GPS Provider app also in the market. You can't beat that--$4.99 for a 7 inch GPS. I've taken it on a 500 mile trip and it performed perfectly. Stay away from Sygic Aura--it doesn't allow for mock locations.
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I was just about to buy this app, but the reviews don't look great. You've had good success? Will Google maps store maps? I thought they had implemented an "offline" feature. Are there any other apps that store maps so you don't need to use data?
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Copilot is usable - but it does have a bug that requires a wifi connection when you first enter a street address and it does not call out street names while navigating
Google maps works but u need a wifi connection to download maps while driving
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I was just about to buy this app, but the reviews don't look great. You've had good success? Will Google maps store maps? I thought they had implemented an "offline" feature. Are there any other apps that store maps so you don't need to use data?
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Copilot is usable - but it does have a bug that requires a wifi connection when you first enter a street address and it does not call out street names while navigating
Google maps works but u need a wifi connection to download maps while driving
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I haven't experienced the bug of having to have the wifi connection on when entering a street address. And as far as not calling out the street names, it does tell you when to take a right (take the next turn right in .3 miles) or left or exit, etc. The street name is displayed on the Nook, so it is quite sufficient. If it called out even the street names what need for the beautiful Nook display?
I use Google Navigator on my phone, same would apply to the NC of course.. Online maps are great until you need to route somewhere when you have no signal.
A few weeks ago I routed to a back-country location, got there no problem. Leaving however, I had no idea how to get back out as I had no cell signal. Had to bust out the old TomTom One from in the trunk.
I haven't looked into CoPilot, but I've heard various bad things about it.. Price is right though, if it's usable. On WM6 I paid lots of money for TomTom + NA maps.
OK, so I bought the CoPilot app, but it just tells my device IMEI number is invalid and won't let me proceed. Any ideas how to get around this?
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OK, so I bought the CoPilot app, but it just tells my device IMEI number is invalid and won't let me proceed. Any ideas how to get around this?
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Well that sucks.. Piracy measure I suspect, and our IMEI is of course fake since it's not a phone.
I've seen others claiming that it's working for them, so I'm not ready to give up just yet.
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I've seen others claiming that it's working for them, so I'm not ready to give up just yet.
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Calla969,
What were the installation steps you took after you purchased CoPilot live? Was it the CoPilot Live USA version?
What ROM are you using?
Mine installed fine and is working as we speak. I originally installed CoPilot USA on the SD card with experimental bluetooth rom. Then when I switched over to CM7 on internal memory I restored app and data through titanium backup. I'm currently running it on CM7 tablet tweaks RC1. I'm using a Garmin 10x receiver, bluetooth, mock locations, and satellites enabled, GPS bluetooth provider apk.
*** Edit: Found the problem. It is the most recent update from the market. I got the same IMEI number error. Just restoring now with the previous version (8.2.504). Yes, that's it. Works with this version. Maybe there is a way you can get this version of the apk? PM? ***
Pm sent.
I'm running the latest tablet tweaks version of cm7.
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Bump. Any suggestions for the best bluetooth receiver to use with the NC? Maybe its time for a NC GPS sub-forum. Just a suggestion?
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Bump. Any suggestions for the best bluetooth receiver to use with the NC? Maybe its time for a NC GPS sub-forum. Just a suggestion?
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I doubt any of them would differ... I get the same range on both of mine on phone and NC.... Both of them mere inches on the NC, where I get 3-4 feet using my phone.
Personally I like my two GPSes for different reasons... My Holux 236 for its accuracy and robustness. And my Columbus V900 for its built-in datalogger, albiet it being about 4 meters consistently off from its real location and -80 meters in actual Altitude.
CoPilot USA
I sent a trouble ticket into CoPilot USA when I got the IMEI error. They dropped a new version about 3 days ago that fixed that problem. New version is 8.2.0.590. When I can get Bluetooth talking to my GPS receiver, CoPilot USA does work. (I strongly prefer TomTom but the price is right for CoPilot USA!) My ROM PhireMod 6.0
BLUETOOTH QUESTION: What Bluetooth application do you use? I’ve tried BlueGPS for Android (1.2.1) -Error msg “Too amy connection problems”; Bluetooth GPS (Googoo Android V 0.5.5p1) -Error msg “Service Discovery Failed”; and Bluetooth GPS Provider (Works most of the time – but seems unpredictable). I’m interfacing a Bluetooth GPS receiver.
So, is "Bluetooth GPS Receiver" from Market the best Bluetooth App?
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Hi all im trying to use my GPS on navigation and it doesnt seem to be working one bit i even downloaded a gps app and that wasnt picking it up also any idea's what's wrong?
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Hi all im trying to use my GPS on navigation and it doesnt seem to be working one bit i even downloaded a gps app and that wasnt picking it up also any idea's what's wrong?
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EDIT: the only real GPS dead zones are underground and on a very rare occurence when your time and date aren't synchronized with that of the GPS sattelite. Other then that, have you tried to enable GPS in settings (would be weird if it was disabled by default). It also matters if you have a data connection when using some apps (I have never gotten google maps to show me where I am when I have no data).
Hope some of this is useful to you
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EDIT: the only real GPS dead zones are underground and on a very rare occurence when your time and date aren't synchronized with that of the GPS sattelite. Other then that, have you tried to enable GPS in settings (would be weird if it was disabled by default). It also matters if you have a data connection when using some apps (I have never gotten google maps to show me where I am when I have no data).
Hope some of this is useful to you
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Thank's for the reply the GPS is enabled still no luck,you cant get data on the Galaxy Player anyway i think.
Other people must be having this problem too the thread has had about 200 view's does anyone know anything about this problem?
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Thank's for the reply the GPS is enabled still no luck,you cant get data on the Galaxy Player anyway i think.
Other people must be having this problem too the thread has had about 200 view's does anyone know anything about this problem?
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By data connection he means a wifi connection.
GPS uses data always. So it needs a data stream to get and use location services and maps.
On a phone it uses cellular or wifi but on an ipod style device or the galaxy player it needs wifi.
Without wifi it will never work unless your gps config files are modified; which is something i learned when trying to get the Acer Iconia GPS to work. And even then its probably not going to work.
Turn on wifi. I bet it works.
You now may be thinking "then what good is gps when i do not have a data connection!!?" - and my answer is exactly!!!
Gps on these devices is a gimmick and really only works when wifi is available.
True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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The Galaxy Player works fine as a standalone GPS without need of a wifi connection if you have the right kind of app. I use Sygic but there are several others. You download maps from Sygic to your player so they are available on your device. Works fine on my 5" Galaxy Player. Also there are apps like speedometers which use the GPS and work fine without a wifi connection.
I use Sygic. And also use pre recorded areas in Google Maps when I need it. No need to WI-FI, etc..
It is a good GPS 5 ".
In fact, very good.
Until now no problems experienced with GPS. If you do not connect may be related to your area.
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By data connection he means a wifi connection.
GPS uses data always. So it needs a data stream to get and use location services and maps.
On a phone it uses cellular or wifi but on an ipod style device or the galaxy player it needs wifi.
Without wifi it will never work unless your gps config files are modified; which is something i learned when trying to get the Acer Iconia GPS to work. And even then its probably not going to work.
Turn on wifi. I bet it works.
You now may be thinking "then what good is gps when i do not have a data connection!!?" - and my answer is exactly!!!
Gps on these devices is a gimmick and really only works when wifi is available.
True gps like a tom tom device doesnt need a wifi connection because it uses the gps link iyself for the limited data it needs plus the maps are built in.
On the galaxy player and phones the maps are downloaded at needed because they are hundreds of megs .
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The GPS technology works perfectly fine without data connection. To speed up the first fix, aGPS was developped and uses a data connection when available, but data connection is not mandatory. It's what is used in most if not all smartphones (search for "assisted gps" in wikipedia).
Data connection are required by some navigation software because they need to download the maps or for some obscure reasons. It's the case with google navigation for example.
But you can use a software that doesn't require data connection and store all its map on the device and only uses the GPS signal to do the fix, as gotok pointed out correctly. An android device with a good navigation software is no different than what you call a "true gps like tomtom".
I think you just don't make the difference between GPS (the technology) and navigation software.
I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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The software is definitely an issue. The SGP i got for christmas couldn't utilize its GPS at all. Regardless of what app tried to use GPS location services, i always got a location error (E.G. Location unavailable at this time.) After doing a little searching, i found that someone had an app that fixed a similar problem. I downloaded "GPS Status & Toolbox" and let it run. Its primary use is a compass and getting information about location, but after i opened it and let it download GPS configuration information, everything worked perfectly. Maps showed where i was, Facebook gave me nearby locations and so on.
Dont know if everyone figured this out already or not, but after reading over most of the thread, i didn't see a definitive solution. Just thought I'd share what i had found.
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The GPS technology works perfectly fine without data connection. To speed up the first fix, aGPS was developped and uses a data connection when available, but data connection is not mandatory. It's what is used in most if not all smartphones (search for "assisted gps" in wikipedia).
Data connection are required by some navigation software because they need to download the maps or for some obscure reasons. It's the case with google navigation for example.
But you can use a software that doesn't require data connection and store all its map on the device and only uses the GPS signal to do the fix, as gotok pointed out correctly. An android device with a good navigation software is no different than what you call a "true gps like tomtom".
I think you just don't make the difference between GPS (the technology) and navigation software.
I agree that the samsung S wifi's GPS capabilities are not very useful "out of the box" with the limitations of google navigation, but it can work perfectly fine with a good software. Don't blame this device (or any other one) for the shortcomings of google navigation and some other software.
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Data connection is never "mandatory" but with some GPS chipsets, it effectively is.
Some chipsets are so crippled they are almost never able to get a lock without assistance.
See the original GalaxyS phones as one example.
The Infuse is improved but not much better.
The Galaxy S II is VERY good at standalone operation.
Galaxy Players - ???, no clue
The GPS works fine, without wifi, on the Galaxy Player 5.0. To test it, get GPS Test (free). Of all the devices I have ever had with GPS (including Nokia phones, LG Android and HTC phones, Garmin) the GPS is the fastest I have experienced. Locks indoors and on moving trains very fast.
I use CoPilot mapping and navigation program and it works great.
I use "Mapdroid" (Free) and "Navdroid" (purchased) and both work great as stand-alone apps. The maps are open source maps and can be had for pretty much anywhere in the world.
Just like a real stand-alone GPSr the accuracy and speed of start up depends on a clear view of the sky, enough time to builds it's almanac of Sats and how far you are from the location you last accessed the app ( moving great distances between uses is almost the same as being turned on for the first time). The same can be said if too much time has gone by between use (such as months).
The Sat almanac gets built when your gpsr is turned on for the first time and is used as a predictive way identifying which Sats should be overhead at the current time you turn your GPSr on. Four or more Sataltites locked in gives you a higher degree of accuracy.
John
Cycling through numerous apps I came to one that actually allows functionality for USB tether. Could not get the WiFi tether to function yet though WiFi alone does work. USB tether may be of no use to many, but I who have no home WiFi ( thanks to an abomination called cox) rely on it for all my laptop usage needs. The lite version has limitations so I went pro. The cost was worth it to myself who came from stock ICS now on the glorious cm11 thanks to sport. I must donate to sport for this ROM in the near future, its my permanent pal temporarily (oxymoron intended). Anticipating the camera fix, but as far as the app, look for it on the play store. "Easy Tether"
Hi,
I currently have the problem, that since a couple months now I apparently have a new neighbor that brought his router with him. Apparently this router was previously located in another country, because since that time the Google geolocation places me somewhere in Germany (instead of Austria, where I live) - and this slowly drives me mad because it makes every app relying on geolocation more or less unusable while I am at home. Google Maps support ignored several reports sent via the Google Maps app, Google Enterprise support not gives a **** because they don't care about Google Maps and want a json call which reproduces the issue (and I cannot find the according MAC causing the problem)
Appart from that the internet suggests to get a GPS signal as often and as good as possible to fix such an issue. Unfortunately that doesn't work for the areas in my apartment where I have this problem. Therefore I bought a bluetooth GPS receiver. The idea was to put it outside onto the terrace, while my phone connects to the receiver from inside of the apartment (near the wifi ap). This way - so I thought - I would be able to bombard Google with the f*ink data, that I don't live at this f*ing place in Germany. Turns out, that the bluetooth range was too small for that and that I have to use "mock location" in the dev options to do that, which also seems to make Google make ignore its data.
That is also my problem with the various 'Fake GPS' apps. They use the mock location option and therefore get ignored. So now my question: What is the best way to fake the location, which also cannot be detected by Google? So that I can use that on the inside of my apartment to provide Google with the data needed to finally correct this wrong data. Currently I am trying out this xposed module https://repo.xposed.info/module/com.fakemygps.android Does anyone know about a better way?
So no secret druid knowledge of faking gps present in this forum?