Why OIS is so huge! - G2 General

OIS on the G2 kills the competition check this out http://www.tinhte.vn/threads/so-sanh-camera-galaxy-s4-lg-g2-va-sky-a880.2160586/ only go for the low light shots!

night shots look good, but damn.. some of those gs4 daytime shots look better. bah!
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jayochs said:
night shots look good, but damn.. some of those gs4 daytime shots look better. bah!
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I'd say they split the daytime shots. some better on the G2 and vis versa. But let's be honest. The camera is fantastic on the G2. That combined with everything else makes it a no-brainer. Just wish it was waterproof like the Z1 :laugh:

mhm. I'm def getting it. I'm hearing people say verizon stores don't know if they'll have it Thursday.. i'm pissed.
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I have to take example pics like those with a grain of salt. Most of my pics are indoors and I always take more than one shot because the settings seem to change a bit with almost every shot. There is always one that looks better than another. But overall it does seem like the G2 (by way of image stabilization) can take better low light pics when used as a point and click.
My S4 has a Auto Detect Night Mode that works pretty good and I would probably use it for some of those shots. I wonder how the comparison would have looked if it was used.

I must get one.I'll sell my phone for it.Great battery life,great camera,great one hand use(at least for me),great display.What else does someone want in a phone?

The OIS on Android phones are pathetic (HTC One, LG G2, Note 3) because they try to do the bare minimum and keep the size small. Sony is even worse. They don't have OIS at all, to keep that 8.5mm body flat with no camera bulge. OIS is only as good as the size. The bigger the springs and ball bearings, the better the OIS. That's why the Lumia 920/925/1020 have such smooth OIS and great night shots. The HTC One also has great night shots because of its gigantic pixels, but the resolution and OIS sucks. If only there was an 8MP version of the HTC Ultrapixel camera with Nokia's OIS. That would be the best low-light shooter around.

hackarchive said:
I must get one.I'll sell my phone for it.Great battery life,great camera,great one hand use(at least for me),great display.What else does someone want in a phone?
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Nothing. Considering my last 2 devices have been the orginal Incredible and the Gnex, I'm beyond due for some friggen battery life. Cam, display and SD800 are just a bonus. This will be my first ever LG, looking forward to trying something different.

it looks Brutal in low light... the poicture comes out gold lol.... the A880 was much better with acuracy in low light.... left is lg g2 and right is the A880

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Camera sucks?

Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
hatyrei said:
Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Welcome to mobile cameras, they all throw pixel count at you when what they really need are better sensors. I have NEVER had a phone camera take pictures that didn't have tons of noise and look like complete **** on a decent monitor. In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
Agree^^
charlatan01 said:
In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
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Can you compare to Maxx HD?
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Great minds think alike.
Disagree.. maybe its your laptop... The pics from my rezound look awesome on my laptop
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Nokia has killer cameras. Even the old models, wish others would follw them
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Have been playing with the camera all day today. Compared to iphone5 this shows lot of noise especially in low light. When cmpared to gs3, noise is marginally higher in low light photos. Under good light conditions, this seems to produce most faithful color reproduction.
Just my observation
Yea, I just compared gsiii and DNA cameras, I think gsiii is better most of the time, but not in color reproduction. But honestly, they are both awful. :thumbdown:
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
tdetroit said:
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
Well, what do you expect from a phone's camera? Whatever the camera's hardware is, if 90% of its settings are controlled automatically, the result is most probably going to suck. In a darker scene, this phone's software may want to bump the ISO higher than another phone's software, hence this noise and lack of detail. But anyway, a different camera app and you knowing how to use it will most probably show better results.
For me, a cellphone's camera is not much more than a barcode scanner.
Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
Some comparisons
Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
ilogik said:
Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
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Don't forget-I was NOT really holding the camera steady (Tipsy), but my spouse had my S3 and the DNA's pics actually look better in those low-light shots than on the S3. I need to go to the Conservatory and take some daylight shots of all the tropical plants. THAT'S where I usually take my dSLR and even when I took the S3 there, the pics came out great,popping colors, etc.... Let's see how the DNA can handle those.
The difference is amazing!!!
WilliamStern said:
I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
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I just downloaded the Camera 360 Ultimate from the Play Store and the difference is very, VERY noticeable. EVERY DNA owner needs to switch immediately. It's COMPLETELY a software issue. I'll be testing other camera apps right now, but this was a drastic improvement!!!
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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On my monitor those pictures look absolutely horrible, grainy and pixely. Are you using a stock camera or a 3rd party one?
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Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Well no camera will ever be like buying a nikon but getting normal point&shoot quality pics isn't much to ask for, nokias are able to achieve it, seems to be just a part of the phone being skimped on. Nothing to stop me frfom buyin though, they are "good enough"
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Dude, something is definitely wrong with your lens. Half those pictures look flat out BLURRY. There are a bevy of example shots from the DNA, just google some and take a look. I'd upload some of my own if it werent for the fact they're already out there. Those pictures you took look like something my 2001 blackberry pearl took.

Night Camera Shots DNA vs Note 2

These phones both have great cameras in daylight. There doesn't seem to be enough of a difference to be a reason for wanting one over the other. I had read in reviews that the Note 2 performed better in low lighting, but never found comparison shots. Well, my brother-in-law and I just took some for anyone who may wonder. These were taken at the same time, so the lighting was the same. We also had all our settings at auto, besides the flash being off. The Penguin has a 100 watt equivalent cool white bulb in it so it was very bright, the polar bear is very dim.
The Note 2 definitely handled the bright penguin better. The DNA won in the last picture in color of the light, etc. In the polar bear picture, if you combined the fence coloring of both images, you'd get what I see with my eyes.
First, the DNA
Note 2
Happy to see that the Note 2 is just as good if not better.
The left most picture looks better on the Note to me while the right most looks better with the DNA IMO. Hard to tell which is better without comparing it to the reality I guess.
Just updated the first post describing how we felt. Unfortunately, we don't have a good camera as a third comparison.
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Happy to see that the Note 2 is just as good if not better.
The left most picture looks better on the Note to me while the right most looks better with the DNA IMO. Hard to tell which is better without comparing it to the reality I guess.
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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I don't know about that. With bright lights that are directed toward the camera, the Note 2 does a better job. The penguin looks much better with the Note 2. Maybe we'll do a shot or two with car headlights on tomorrow.
This was taken at the zoo at night. It's light projected onto a rock wall. Was completely dark outside. I was the only person to get it with my phone easily. Everyone one else out there was struggling or using dslr camera
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is it just me or are this attachments not showing up?
Edit: nvm they loaded after i posted this.
looks to me that the note beats the dna on all of them but the 4th pic
Wickedares said:
is it just me or are this attachments not showing up?
Edit: nvm they loaded after i posted this.
looks to me that the note beats the dna on all of them but the 4th pic
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this is what I see aswell!
I'll call it a draw overall
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I agree that the last pic DNA dealt with the light better.
I had both....gn2 was much better indoors, but the DNA was much better outdoors.
need 100% crops and better controls
I have had both in the past month and can say that camera is one if the reasons I returned DNA. It was good bit not equal. IMO as I take a huge amount of pics if my 2 lil girls. Everything is subjective and settings are a huge variable but both are amazing devices. Other reasons - expandable memory and exchangable battery - were the deal breakers but I did feel slighted by DNA cam. That being said... both were heavy hitters
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The last pictures look relatively equal to me, though the Note 2 could have been affected by the light coming in from the left side a little bit, which isn't visible in the DNA pic. From the looks of it, the Note 2 does better in low light with a single bright source, but in very low lighting, the DNA is better. In reality, I wouldn't use any smartphone to take dark or low-light shots, and would even avoid it if possible on a standard point and shoot.
TechSavvy2 said:
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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dont quit your day job for photography please. lol

[FIX] Remove the lag and low FPS in the camera...

I think i might have found a fix for the slow FPS and lag in the camera in low light condition.
Try installing the new google camera app, from android 4.4 kitkat, and use your camera at night with both apps, you will see a difference.
But there's a little compatibility issue with the app, it doesnt scale with the phone resolution.
hxxp:// w w w.mediafire.com/?g3i3i9skdh8s6xl
I find the LG's one too over exposed. I think the app is trying to increase the exposure too much in night shot, thus the lag slower fps. What do you guys think??
Good ol' HDB flats! Hola fellow Singaporean!
Yea the Google cam works fine but the resolution is capped at 8mp unfortunately.
Singapore +1 Haha
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Is this just a standard apk or do you need to be rooted?
yea but look how much brighter the LG one is. although the colors seem to be a little off, i don't mind it. especially in low light situations where i want to take a pic and not use flash. i don't mind that its slower because it has to compensate for the low light. and it does low light pics amazingly btw. if it was slow in bright light conditions, then thats an issue. now to work on the focusing and overall blurriness of pics...
I mean, that's not a fix lol its just using another app. every other app works in low light with higher fps, it's just lgs camera that doesn't. this title is misleading.
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I downloaded and installed and will report back with my findings
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Google's camera is still a little laggy... Plus, I've noticed that the navigation bar is not hiding, I don't know if is just with me.
I also noticed that the G2 is not fast to focus when we are at low light conditions.... Very poor. I wish LG could make this better, because even the front camera is laggy.
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Google's camera is still a little laggy... Plus, I've noticed that the navigation bar is not hiding, I don't know if is just with me.
I also noticed that the G2 is not fast to focus when we are at low light conditions.... Very poor. I wish LG could make this better, because even the front camera is laggy.
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Laggy compared to what? Compared to bright light conditions?
souleman said:
Laggy compared to what? Compared to bright light conditions?
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I used to have a SIII.
So, I'm comparing with my SG SIII camera.
With low light.... it is very laggy, even the Google camera apk, it is not as good as I would expect.
I bought this phone because of the quality of the camera; sure it is amazing with bright conditions, but, it is very poor with low lights...
Even the flash is laggy.
I compared mine in low light next to my evo. There was slightly more lag (less then a second more), but the image quality was thousands times better. Could barely make out anything with the evo, other then the fact there were things in the room. With the g2, you could actually see what was in the room. And with the mod's from this site, got a clear picture that looked almost the same as actually being in the room.
The image quality is good. OK, I accepted that. But, in my case, for example, I have a 5 months old child, I Love taking pictures of her. With low light it got so laggy that is really hard to take one without blurring, 'cause she is moving all the time, so, I was expecting a little bit of improvement on the camera's speed.
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ploquets said:
The image quality is good. OK, I accepted that. But, in my case, for example, I have a 5 months old child, I Love taking pictures of her. With low light it got so laggy that is really hard to take one without blurring, 'cause she is moving all the time, so, I was expecting a little bit of improvement on the camera's speed.
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Try to set the iso at 800.
OK let's just all spazzzzzzz about meeting Singaporeans on XDA. Heyo fella, happy CNY in advance
Anyway, coming from a Lumia 920 with crazy lowlight shots, I've given up on using the G2 camera in the night time totally. Tried LG-based camera apps on different ROMs and AOSP ones, they all suck. Takes super long to focus and picture turns out blur. OIS is just but a gimmick (or maybe I have extra-shaky hands, idk?).
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ploquets said:
I used to have a SIII.
So, I'm comparing with my SG SIII camera.
With low light.... it is very laggy, even the Google camera apk, it is not as good as I would expect.
I bought this phone because of the quality of the camera; sure it is amazing with bright conditions, but, it is very poor with low lights...
Even the flash is laggy.
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I recently switched to the G2 from a Nexus 5 and since we are talking about camera I find that the Nexus 5 Front facing camera takes better pix, sharper and more vibrant, the G2 is shadowy and not as sharp am I the only one experiencing this?
Izz14 said:
I recently switched to the G2 from a Nexus 5 and since we are talking about camera I find that the Nexus 5 Front facing camera takes better pix, sharper and more vibrant, the G2 is shadowy and not as sharp am I the only one experiencing this?
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I'll be switching from Nexus 5 too. Which do you think has a better camera? I don't really use the front too much but the nexus 5 does good with it though the g2 has 2,3 mp front while Nexus 5 only has 1.3 but apparently these days mega pixels don't mean as much
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abdel12345 said:
I'll be switching from Nexus 5 too. Which do you think has a better camera? I don't really use the front too much but the nexus 5 does good with it though the g2 has 2,3 mp front while Nexus 5 only has 1.3 but apparently these days mega pixels don't mean as much
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I have both in hand right now and I'm torn I did some adjustements in the G2 so I think it will suffice I dont use the front camera as much also , it just erked me that it sucked in comparison to the G2 if you end up getting one you will see what I'm talking about exactly in regards to the front camera, it's just more vibrant and sharp on the Nexus 5 ( front) the back I think G2 does a tad better but sometimes I feel like it's overexposed
I do like the G2 Display and battery life I hated the Stock UI so I flashed PA 4.4.2 so it's pretty much a carbon copy of what a nexus 5 would look like, flashed G2 on 4.4.2 is a better battery/display Nexus 5, factoring in the fact that it costs more than the Nexus 5 , Nexus 5 comes out a solid solid phone I'm really confused ........
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I have both in hand right now and I'm torn I did some adjustements in the G2 so I think it will suffice I dont use the front camera as much also , it just erked me that it sucked in comparison to the G2 if you end up getting one you will see what I'm talking about exactly in regards to the front camera, it's just more vibrant and sharp on the Nexus 5 ( front) the back I think G2 does a tad better but sometimes I feel like it's overexposed
I do like the G2 Display and battery life I hated the Stock UI so I flashed PA 4.4.2 so it's pretty much a carbon copy of what a nexus 5 would look like, flashed G2 on 4.4.2 is a better battery/display Nexus 5, factoring in the fact that it costs more than the Nexus 5 , Nexus 5 comes out a solid solid phone I'm really confused ........
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I'm getting the g2 for same price as nexus 5 since I'm doing a complicated trade on craigslist. I'll be selling my phone to one guy and buying from another for same price. Now the issue with this is if one doesnt show up it ruins it for the other two. So hopefully it goes well. I'm sure it would be easy to sell the g2 and get a nexus 5 again if I don't like it but I feel like I'll like the g2 better just for the battery alone
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abdel12345 said:
I'm getting the g2 for same price as nexus 5 since I'm doing a complicated trade on craigslist. I'll be selling my phone to one guy and buying from another for same price. Now the issue with this is if one doesnt show up it ruins it for the other two. So hopefully it goes well. I'm sure it would be easy to sell the g2 and get a nexus 5 again if I don't like it but I feel like I'll like the g2 better just for the battery alone
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That's the only reason i bought the G2 I found it for a steal price , I could sell it and make a few extra bucks and just keep my N5 because it's essentially the same - Display and Battery I could live with that for the right price I'm going to keep using it for a few days and decide now I'm leaning towards the G2 lol
This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
Solved my camera's problem.
Now I'm a little bit happier.
Thanks to @xdabbeb
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HTC one mini 2 with 13MP camera.... WTF????

Thanks HTC for bring a bigger mp camera to a phone that's suppose to be the little brother of the m8.........
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/5/...tes-the-companys-flagship-phone-in-a-trimmed
...because we're ALWAYS complaining about the MP on our camera when we just upload the photos to instagram and fb..
You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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I'll agree that what smartphone camera is "better" depends on how you in particular use the camera. But just because a camera has more MP, does not make it "better" either. We'll have to wait and see if the camera on the One Mini 2 actually yields better quality images than the M8.
Unless you are blowing up or cropping photos a lot, 13 MP is too much and a joke for a camera phone. High MP smartphone cameras really struggle in low light. And unless you are taking pictures outdoors in broad daylight, its often low light.
I'll agree that HTC probably should not have opted for the dual camera on the M8. Kinda cool at times, but also pretty gimmicky. The money probably would have been better spent improving image quality on the single rear camera (even if not to increase the MP).
It's kinda a slap in the face to a certain degree. Here is the new m8 with the same camera with a secondary camera which is mostly gimmicky while nice at the same time. Then they decide to make the new HTC one mini from a 5 mp camera to a 13MP camera...........
Now will it have better pics? Probably not or probably so. For most people it don't matter, but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8. While the m8 blows the mini in other specs that 13MP camera looks a lot better to somebody who doesn't care to have the latest and greatest specs.
While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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903tex said:
but after being in retail when trying to sell a customer the one the camera is its downside cause on PAPER the 4mp camera doesn't sound good at all compared to the other smartphones out in the market. People will buy the mini 2 because of it has higher mp count than the m8.
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Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
903tex said:
While a higher mp count doesn't make a camera phone any better yes, but why bring the same thing to the table for your flagship but have a mid range phone with a better spec camera on paper WHEN it comes to mp count. .
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That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
redpoint73 said:
Unfortunately, Average Joe is always going to fall for that marketing gimmick of chasing big numbers, without having any real understanding of what they mean. How many times have you seen someone with a fancy, big screen 1080p TV; and the owner just has a standard definition program on it; and not even in the right aspect ratio (so the picture is all stretched out to fill the screen). That kinda crap drives me crazy!
I for one applaud HTC for turning their nose up at the megapixel arms race. Its gotten absurd. I mean seriously, do we really need a smartphone with a 41 MP camera? Of course not (I understand its actually a really good camera, but not because its 41 MP).
That is a really good point. Why push a certain marketing strategy (and one that particularly bucks the trend) for one device, then do nearly the exact opposite for another device.
In any case, I don't think that the Mini 2 will really compete directly with the M8. Price point alone, even the Average Joe Blow is going to know its a flagship versus a "budget" phone. Don't know about the One Mini in particular, but for the most part, any HTC phone aside from the "flagship" tends to sell in extremely low numbers. At least here in the US (don't know about other regions).
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The same reason we need 4k Tv's and 2k screen on smartphones. To keep making them money lol! Exactly why say your not going to follow the trend but all your other phones are right in the trend? Lol but HTC could have tried a little harder for the m8 speaking of the camera of course. The phone is rock solid but don't have these commercials making fun of these mp trends and being different when your other devices join right in with today's trends.
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Some of my favorite shots have come from the camera on my M8. In terms of higher quality, I'm actually looking at the Sony G Lens, since it is supposed to take really nice shots, and is $200 at my local best buy.
Some people such as my self want a phone with camera and some prefer cameras that can be used as a phone.
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You can't say that for ALL users. A lot of people don't need a expensive camera to take pics. Especially if you want to use that pic past Facebook etc. All I'm saying is instead of adding a second camera. HTC could have added more to the m8 to help keep it from being the same camera with a second camera. End of the day 4mp camera is a 4mp camera
When I want to use my pics past loading onto social apps. I use my note 3. But if I want to use this pic to upload then yes either my m8 or note 3 will do the job just fine
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If I want to use my pics for something worthwhile, I use my Canon EOS.. otherwise I use a crappy phone camera.
lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
daddioj said:
lets all cut the crap. the camera is nice on the M8 and i do agree. to a certain degree. mega pixels don't make the camera. but it sucks for details when blowing up pictures or zooming we dont need 20 mp. but i think we should have something alittle higher
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reviews for the one mini 2 have started surfacing. in ideal conditions it is resolving a lot more detail, by a huge margin. but anything other than ideal and the m8 takes it.
i think the 2.0 pixel size is great and all, but i think we couldve benefited a lot for 1.8 sized pixels and an extra megapixel. that configuration shouldn't lead to a large camera hump.
i'm happy with what i got either way, i do miss the old OIS from my old m7. but whatever, the m8 has proven to be a capable shooter. and my nx300 is always on stand by in case i need a real camera
Any advice on rooting the Mini 2. I receive it tomorrow from carphone warehouse (379sterling.) Has the original Mini gained from official CM11 support thus far?
Any insight on how to root my forthcoming mini 2 and gaining cwm and porting roms would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know what phone o could potentially port from for the Mini 2.
How difficult to root and install a custom cwm recovery?
Hello community!
I have just bought the new HTC One Mini 2, it is locked with EE network. It looks like I am unable to get the unlock code anywhere. Do you have any suggestion or advice?
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
So what if it has a camera with higher MPs. That doesn't make it a better phone than m8. Unless HTC comes up with a device having the same internals as the m8 but a better camera resolution, I don't see what is there to fuss about.
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what sucks is having a super light sensitive camera.. while living in Florida. It's always bright unless you paint your windows black.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I'm not so sure that having a more sensitive sensor (while better for low light situations) necessarily means that there will be too much light in bright situations. The camera controls the sensitivity (ISO based on the old "film speed" terminology) as well as the aperture (f-stop). It might be that the automatic exposure that the camera is trying to achieve (balance between ISO, aperture and shutter time) is too bright for your local conditions. In which case, you can manually lower the exposure by tapping the 3-top menu button in the camera app, tap EV and lower the exposure value.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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I've messed with all the settings. I appreciate the feedback though...
Unfortunately, if i have any picture with a bright spot from the sun the whole picture gets washed out. Full indoor is fine and full outdoor is fine. But daytime pictures indoors with sun coming in the window- washed out. Granted- if i still lived in Philly (or most parts of the country) i doubt it would be an issue.
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Any camera will have issues if there are areas in the frame which are very bright, or spotty lighting (mix of bright and darker spots). Or does it seem worse with the phone? Often forcing the focus to a different spot by tapping the screen helps a lot.

Z2 Camera ability to capture fast moving objects

As the title indicates I am interested to see what people who own the Z2 feel about shutter speed in auto 8mp wide mode and also the cameras ability to Freeze motion both indoor and outdoor shots.
I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has a G3 as I have one on pre-order and also how the camera speed compares to the M8 super speedy camera.
I have watched loads of reviews and the time it takes from pressing shutter to the camera animation / taking seems a little slow but not many reviews talk about this subject.
The reason I ask is I have fast moving kids
Thanks in advance.
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Ive found that superiour auto doesnt always work but when it does the snapspeed is very rapid with minimal bluring
Z2 can record at 120fps maximum so there is video recording (slow motion edits are fun to play with)
3200 max iso (higher =faster snap)
Z2 does get a little warm when using the camera
I dont own the other two devices so my reivews/info is from 20 mins of experiance
The M8 has a alittle better due to the dedicated HW however pictured dont look as sharp and vibrant
The G3 i havnt seen much of aside hearing that focusing hardly ever fails and the sharpness of the camera is perfect
Id say look for camera shootouts
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Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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Thanks for reply. I like camera shootouts but they never focus (lol) on the fast moving subjects and concentrate on low light and daylight shots.
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I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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I've taken a few photos from moving cars and they almost always turned out extremely clear. I was very impressed
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Impressive. What about running kids or pets ?
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Took some pics of my son running around and kicking a football about and they all came out clear even shots with ball in the air and him running.
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Wow. That's pretty good to hear. Could anyone please post samples of fast moving stuff. Would love to see a dog running being frozen or if someone could bounce a tennis ball and try to capture it whilst it's in fast motion ...not at the top of the bounce where it stops in mid air. Still trying to make a decision between this phone and g3 which I preordered. Not very confident that the g3 camera is going to be better than the Z2 ... Still deciding. Thanks for all the help.
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Will see what I can do
ipmanwck said:
Really helpful. Thanks very much. What is the time from when you press the shutter from it actually taking a pic. HTC and g3 are super fast but z2 appears to have a small delay ?
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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The delay is probably because it re-focuses before it takes the picture. Fortunately the dedicated camera button comes in handy here because you have the ability to half-press the shutter button which will focus and lock the focus until you do a full-press. Means that you can be much more certain that what you see when you press is what you get when the photo is processed.
You can actually acheive the same result with the on-screen buttonby first pressing it (which locks focus) and then unpressing it, which will fire the shutter.
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Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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guide144 said:
I try to shooting the puppies while they playing with auto mode. It look ok for me.
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Thanks for pic. Taken through glass too ! Nice. A little blurred around the foot of the moving white dog but really appreciate the pic.
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Thanks. I went and had a good test of the camera in 3 UK today. I found that half holding the hardware shutter key then fully pressing it was effective. I tested it instore but found that when I waved my hand back and forward and tried to capture it in a still image of struggled a little. If I didn't half hold the shutter to lock focus I found auto focus was not that quick compared to m8 and s5. Not bad but not as quick. Timeshift is excellent and overall I think camera was quite good. I always buy phones SIM free but I would only pay 450 for one. It's currently £550 which is steep when the other handsets are around 400 now. Waiting for a good deal.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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For me the focus speed is much, much less important than the shutter speed. It could take a second to focus (it doesn't, obviously) and I still wouldn't care that much as long as it was able to freeze the action.
I bought mine about a month ago in store from 3 UK for £459. Price must have gone up since then. £550 is definitely quite steep.
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I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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ipmanwck said:
I hear what your saying. What phone did you come from. Yes the price has shot up. 549 is a joke. Apparently ee were selling then at 429 but missed it .... Booooo.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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Came from a G2. Really liked it but i just couldn't live with the camera. Such a disappointment. Before that I had a Note 2, which was very good. Excellent camera. I find the pictures with the samsungs are a bit sharper which I have to admit I preferred. Z2 pics have a bit less sharpness to them. I'd take the Z2 camera all day long though as it's better in low light than the note 2.
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G2 camera was pretty bad. Sammy has poor low light shots. Good to hear z2 is better.
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If anyone can post more samples that would be great. Thanks.
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le_lutin said:
I find that camera shootouts are hopeless for reflecting real world use (if I see another macro shot of a pink flower i'm gonna explode!).
I bought the G2 a few months ago based on the positive reviews of the camera (all landscapes and flowers of course) and boy did I end up regretting that! G2 shutter speed was woeful - it was impossible to take a good picture of my kids when the lighting was anything less than absolutely perfect. Also, the G2's noise reduction algorithm meant that even if your kids do stay still for a second, they'll end up looking like an oil painting (in less than good light).
Also the video on the G2 was shocking too - really contrasty in good light and very bad in low light - audio wasn't good either
I ended up selling the G2 and going for a Z2, and I have to say I'm very happy indeed - camera is much better than the G2 - shutter speed for capturing kids is about as good as you'll get on a phone. Video is brilliant too (its digital stabilisation is the best I've seen). In low light, the Z2 does very well indeed. There's a bit of noise, but I'd much prefer that to my kids looking like they have plastic faces!
Anyway, the G3 camera *looks* better than the G2 , but I was so disappointed by the G2 that I don't know if i can even trust the reviews as they aren't really focussed on my (and your) typical use-cases.
Anyway, that's my tuppence. I know how important it is to capture memories of the kids and I have to say the Z2 hasn't let me down.
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This is exactly my case. Have a g2 to and can't capture nothing moving. Is a bit better after a few camera mods but is not ideal. I will buy z2, was a bit worried about camera overheat but I think I will try it anyway.

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