Hate to say it but looks like some Note 2 TW devs are leaving the phone. Seems they are vanishing weekly. Too bad because there were some great ROMs out there and I hate to see some of them go for the VZW variant. Really sad that VZW and Samsung are making things so difficult for devs these days. Makes me wonder if they left it open just long enough to steal hard working dev ideas for themselves without having to pay an R&D department to test the OS. Looks like AOSP 4.3 ROMs are starting to take off though, and with the addition of the App Bar, Halo and a host of other mods by great devs we still have a few options. That coupled with great mod apps in the Play Store you can almost get the TW experience with AOSP now.
Or maybe they are moving on to other projects until we get the 4.3 TW update. Then, hopefully some of them will return and develop for one of the top devices still on the market. The Note 3 will most likely be locked down like the S4 so I am thinking the Note 2 may be the last great Samsung device open to rooting and having the ability to flash custom ROMs.
To all the devs that made (or still making) great TW ROMs for our VZW Note 2, thanks for all your hard work. I know I have enjoyed being able to try different ROMs and tinkering with them. You all deserve donations and our gratitude. You guys and gals make the Android experience enjoyable for all of us.
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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Hopefully thats the case. Or it may be time to switch carriers. Kinda tired of VZW and their procedures anyway.
If I could I'd leave for an att mnvo but I can't
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BennyJr said:
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
Also keep in mind that the xposed framework has removed a lot of the necessity for a true custom rom as it does just about everything that previously had to be hardcoded in. Most custom roms anymore are really just themes with xposed installed by default.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
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The S4 wont be unlocked...however Im sure something like Kexec or Safestrap will be used to work around the Locked Bootloader. If you read into the details of Qualcomm processors and qfuses, you will quickly learn its pretty much impossible.
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Agreed. I actually missed my GS3 for about 2 months until the N2 ROMs started picking up. Now I'm digging PAC Man 4.3 and can't wait to see what happens with TW 4.3. Just hope the devs migrate back eventually. The N2 is a great device.
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JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
We have patches to run roms from other carriers, as well as rock solid roms that work flawlessly. X posed has opened up almost endless possibilities, and active themers(<is this even a word?) )help the look of a lot of the roms we do have. One of the best things we have is a bunch of good natured members willing to help, and learn. This goes a long way. New developers are born every day. Some will leave, some will stay. Heck Deckoz just started. Trans nebula is his first rom. This phone is a nice piece of kit, and unless I can get a xperia xl super cheap, and working flawless on Verizon, then I am staying put for awhile. You guys are stuck with me.
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
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Honestly it's a gorgeous device. Almost pure android on it, some nice moto features. I would get it if I didn't have a note. It's honestly still in the back of my mind to get one. It's smaller yeah but it's got a really nice feel in the hand. Very smooth running device
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Feel the same as the op but remaining hopeful and patient. Really sad to see cleanrom go and nothing really along those lines. I like beans also and not sure how much more he can do with it until there's a 4.3 to work off of. I've been messing with nova themes and other mods to keep me busy. That and just enjoying the phone with what we have.
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Nova and the host of goodies and apps has made the TW experience more enjoyable until 4.3 drops. I realize the TW devs are limited until the next update. Heck I flashed back to Beans just to mess with X Posed since I really never have in TW roms.
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SSLauncher is pretty cool as well. Looking forward to trying all kinds of possibilities.
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kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Looks like it is mostly CM 10.1 support but found these : http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Exfat on cM
Updates are great, but since TW has its own limitations and we've had 4.1.2 for how long now? Tweaks can only be so tweaky! 4.3 will breathe alot of new life into our phone. I am not upgrading to the N3 lest something makes it more desirable. But seeing that we get the same update it will have, I am willing to wait a month to see what happens.
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Just curious to know if developers think the note is that bad? I am surprised that at this time with a totally unlocked Note there is only 4 give or take ROMs available for us, which in reality only 2 are kept up to date.
Yet, i browsed the T-mobile section and there are more than a handful with constant updating....
I know one of the main reasons is the price of the Note, developers do this for free and to obtain a note it obviously cost money...but is that the only reason?
What are your thoughts?
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My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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I thought the same when I bought my s3 and it picked up. I just upgraded to the note2 and like that scottsroms and beans are available. They are solid builds and there are plenty of mods that are available to accent those. There are more coming from what I understand so be patient. I think the biggest problem for us is verizon messing with our bootloader all the time.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
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My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
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I fully understand, i was just curious to know as i had the S3 since release, and as soon as the bootloader got unlocked the Development of it went higher.
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Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
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If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
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This
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kintwofan said:
Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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Liquid too!
As long as I have Eclipse I have no need to flash anything else. Not putting the other roms down I have ran clean rom and beans and they are good roms. But Eclipse is all I need
As long as I have Beans & my favorite red/black theme, I don't need anything else myself.....
I think this device has the perfect amount of development...I like the fact there is not 100 versions of the same thing cluttering up the dev section.
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My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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Yes I meant baked bean. Didn't want to type it out. I'm running beans
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37374134
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Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
The Note 2 just received official CM 10.1 nightlies, so once some of the kinks are ironed out (which may not be until Samsung releases a 4.2 update), we'll probably see a lot more development coming. CM 10.1 is the base for pretty much every rom except AOKP and PA. And again, we only have official nightly builds so far, not official "stable" builds and that may deter a few devs until we see full blown support.
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What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
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Boy I was full of typos I meant 4.1.2
And just since my typing was horrible, this is the one I meant
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37284311
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Please? Ill love you forever and ever
dreallday said:
Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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This is real...just used the pure version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I should've been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. I'm really tired of the radio issues with yours. I've tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact I'm pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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I should been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. Im really tired of the radio issues with your's. Ive tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact Im pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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no its not
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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You know what I meant, i just used a bit of hyperbole. Its AOSP with TW elements underneath. The AOSP may go a little bit deeper than the skin, but its still pretty much AOSP outside and TW inside. TW inside was the OP's issue, and its inextricable from an S4 GE ROM. If you take all the TW elements away, its not really a GE ROM anymore. Unless Dubsy misinformed us, which I doubt.
And the OP's other issue, the radio, is pretty much always the main issue when porting from another device.
GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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Got to say I am with you on getting a good GE ROM. I have not tried Dubsy's latest, but nitro's 1.5 is pretty dang smooth. I had a few data drops yesterday, but I didn't notice any today (didn't use the phone as much, though), so if the data drops, it must come back. Going to be on radio all weekend, so I will get more experience with it. I think its stable enough for a DD.
Both Nitro's and Dubby's run fantastically with no data drops!
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I am really hopeful for Nitros. I was using his yesterday and liked it, but I still would like the radio to be ironed out.
Dubsys had many little issues that made it impossible to use on a daily basis. One problem I continue to have is that any phone number starting with "+1" must be redialed without the +1... half my contacts are like that and it is incredibly annoying.
For the amount of time Dubsy has had to work on it, I feel like this issues should've been addressed by now. I think I speak for a lot of the community here when I ask for a more experienced developers help on this GE port.
There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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Especially considering devs on XDA share their work for free.
Tortuga said:
I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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Id love sbreen long time if he spent one night on this... that guys a wizard
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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I really don't care if you're upset to be honest. Don't follow my threads, and don't use my roms... Pretty simple really.
From the beginning I posted a proof of concept to prove data alone, nothing else. I said for devs to contact me and I'd send the files for them to maintain. When it was clear no one was going to pick up and run with it I started modifying the framework to be at least a bit more stable. With the open offer still out there to share a fully decompiled GE working folder in a shared cloud.
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[Q] What ROM do you guys use as your Daily Driver?
Provide the hyperlink to the explanation/download page of the listed ROM.
Give your reasons.
List length of time on current ROM.
This Poll is created from the list of ROMS in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297370 [GUIDE] Official List of Roms, Mods, Kernels, Root, etc. All credit for the list goes to theidoctor and all Devs of ROMS!
I've been on liquidsmooth for about 1-2 weeks.
I chose it because it seemed like it was stable, smooth and awesome.
It ended up being stable, smooth and awesome.
No complaints so far.
It's the only ROM I've tried so far and I'm going to keep it for a while.
I'm interested in trying others, though, but for now I'm cool with liquidsmooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324742
I'm on Eclipse 1.5 for about 2 weeks now. I like it because of the blackout apps. Its still mdk but Im sure he's working on porting it to me7. Its a very stable ROM and he's in the process of another great build now. His ROM along with Team Blackout updater is awesome. I've tried me7 Roms and other aosp Roms and I like how his provides bits of TW and aosp features together. This is his TW ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351840
Harleydroid said:
I'm on Eclipse 1.5 for about 2 weeks now. I like it because of the blackout apps. Its still mdk but Im sure he's working on porting it to me7. Its a very stable ROM and he's in the process of another great build now. His ROM along with Team Blackout updater is awesome. I've tried me7 Roms and other aosp Roms and I like how his provides bits of TW and aosp features together. This is his TW ROM.
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No BoneStock by AndyBones? You are missing out on an amazing one.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384362&page=77
Reason: Smooth, problem free, great on battery, nice extras.
Usage Time: a few days
TCM55 said:
No BoneStock by AndyBones? You are missing out on an amazing one.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384362&page=77
Reason: Smooth, problem free, great on battery, nice extras.
Usage Time: a few days
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I am on Bone stock 1.13 as well. It runs very nice. I would like to get PIP working and smart view. Yet kernels are were I get confused cause theu cause so many problems
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TCM55 said:
No BoneStock by AndyBones? You are missing out on an amazing one.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384362&page=77
Reason: Smooth, problem free, great on battery, nice extras.
Usage Time: a few days
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Ask theidoctor to add it to his List. I just made this POLL off of his comprehensive list of what is available and stable...
I live and die by jellybeans. Buttery smooth and have had zero lag or bug issues.
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I use Korky69's Xtra-Chromosome 2.1 nightlies, with Aspy tweaks. Runs pretty well with BrickmyphoneMod Kernel but I wouldn't recommend it in a million years.
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I use Google Edition Pure by Dubbsy and hlxanthus.
I started with the modified version for a month or so, then I played around with PAC-Man ROM RC1 by Papa Smurf151 for a few days to test out a ton of custom features in one go. Some of them were quite good, but I got tired of all the options and customisations and just wanted stock Google again . So now I am on Google Edition Pure.
Being able to go to HALO and Pie to hardware buttons to the soft navbar (mod by hlxanthus) and all around again has really helped my form my UI tastes. Turns out I prefer Google's on-screen buttons, and one of the reasons why I bought the S4 was because of its hardware buttons!
I sold my iPhone and got the S4 on the weekend that the new update rolled out. I was able to get it home and root it and flash the GE ROM all on the first day. The only bugs have I've noticed have been the missing 4G bars (fixed), garbled carrier name (unimportant), and a few recent build glitches that I think are fixed now as well (MTP botched and random reboots). On the other had, I tried installing Google Wallet before, but I ended up having to reflash the ROM. Now this latest version has Wallet working out of the box.
Stock ME7 unrooted. Not by choice obviously, but to be honest with force gpu rendering it's incredibly fast and smooth for a stock experience. Great battery too.
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bdv11 said:
I live and die by jellybeans. Buttery smooth and have had zero lag or bug issues.
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Vote please. The POLL is the what this thread is all about.
Its best if everyone would do both thanks.
thejulianath20 said:
Vote please. The POLL is the what this thread is all about.
Its best if everyone would do both thanks.
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Is my ROM not good enough for this list?
Kind of odd considering my ROM is the ONLY VZW ROM to feature Blocking Mode and the first customized ME7 ROM, not too mention seem to be one of the most active DEVs..
andybones said:
Is my ROM not good enough for this list?
Kind of odd considering my ROM is the ONLY VZW ROM to feature Blocking Mode and the first customized ME7 ROM, not too mention seem to be one of the most active DEVs..
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I have to say I love your rom and I dont even think about changing roms. btw hows the blue theme coming along?
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Flashed over to Official PAC RC1 yesterday, and it's pretty awesome. I have yet to experience an issue, and it runs like a dream. I ran an older PAC on my Incredible2, and this just further cements my enjoyment of it. I'm sure I'll miss the TW camera soon, but that's what AndyBones BoneStock is for :good:
Also, forcing people to vote is probably going to get the thread locked as a "best ROM" thread. Not to mention the list is missing quite a few options, even those found on XDA - PAC has been around since we first got root.
Tortuga said:
Flashed over to Official PAC RC1 yesterday, and it's pretty awesome. I have yet to experience an issue, and it runs like a dream. I ran an older PAC on my Incredible2, and this just further cements my enjoyment of it. I'm sure I'll miss the TW camera soon, but that's what AndyBones BoneStock is for :good:
Also, forcing people to vote is probably going to get the thread locked as a "best ROM" thread. Not to mention the list is missing quite a few options, even those found on XDA - PAC has been around since we first got root.
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I specifically stated that this poll is using the list that theidoctor listed in his thread...
Show me a more full comprehensive list and I will update. Its hard enough to find the roms as a newbie but when someone makes a list you should ask to get yours added...
thejulianath20 said:
I specifically stated that this poll is using the list that theidoctor listed in his thread...
Show me a more full comprehensive list and I will update. Its hard enough to find the roms as a newbie but when someone makes a list you should ask to get yours added...
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I saw that in your op. I commented on that ROM/Mod/Kernel list thread, as I didn't realize it was still being updated.
"Daily Driver" is a term people throw around way too loosely, and it means different things to different people. For me, a daily driver is a ROM I can use for my normal activities without major bugs adversely affecting it. Longevity, to me, is irrelevant because there are quite a few ROMs that meet my criteria. I don't think I'm a "crack-flasher" so nightlies aren't my thing, but I've gotten pretty fast at setting up on a new ROM. So even though a ROM may run great for me, I like to change it up every now and then. I loved Beans' and DarkSlide - and would consider those daily drivers. I am now on PAC, and so far it meets all of my requirements. I'll probably switch to BoneStock in the next couple weeks, since ME7 is very smooth and the TW camera is a nice improvement over AOSP.
Im using HellsRom and its great. Pure stock and that's the way I like it for now. I havent found any bugs yet. Everything works great and very fast.
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Why isn't Timbo32's Buttersquirtz rom on here? Or KnightMan12's Gloryhole DaRk-TheMe-DrEaM Rom? Biased much?
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No Omega, Pacman, or Revolt?
I'm currently using Hyperdrive but it's my first custom ROM and I'm not too thrilled with it. Battery life seems a little worse than stock and TouchWiz just feels bloated naturally-- all the S4 stuff doesn't seem to work at all? Smart scroll, smart stay, etc?
Hyperdrive for me has been quirkier and actually a tad slower than stock. I don't mean to blame it but it's my observation based on the options I chose upon install, etc. Don't get me wrong, it's a solid ROM for sure, however I'm definitely not tied to it yet.
I have the gs3 now, but I'm thinking about buying the note 2, and I was looking through the roms section for this phone. there are not many roms for this phone. Why is this? Is it because the spen? I don't know. I was just wondering. Thanks
wily5150 said:
I have the gs3 now, but I'm thinking about buying the note 2, and I was looking through the roms section for this phone. there are not many roms for this phone. Why is this? Is it because the spen? I don't know. I was just wondering. Thanks
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Xposed makes custom roms unnecessary in general.
wily5150 said:
I have the gs3 now, but I'm thinking about buying the note 2, and I was looking through the roms section for this phone. there are not many roms for this phone. Why is this? Is it because the spen? I don't know. I was just wondering. Thanks
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Probably for one, the locked bootloader and because the N3 is already out. There are a lot of custom ROMs though, at least enough to find one you really like. Most people just choose to run Beans or an AOSP rom. You can easily replace a lot of TW functionality through different apps with AOSP roms, though.
akellar said:
Xposed makes custom roms unnecessary in general.
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I would say that this is definitely true for some, but for others, no, Xposed doesn't make custom roms unnecessary.
There may not be the plethora you were hoping for, but the roms are top notch. Every one I've tired is a solid daily driver and still sports great features.
Thanks for the reply's guys
To take a stab at the spen question. The international note 2 has spen but more roms so I think it has more to do with Verizon as our carrier. And maybe for those of us here we have all been really happy with what we've got to play with... I dunno some just want a good debloated and customized TW rom in order to have full functionality of the spen.
also if you look at the amount of thread reads you can see which ones are more popular than others. I will say that Touchwiz based ROMs are easier to deal with (in my opinion) than AOSP/CM ROMs. The main differences between them is in the name, you maintain the Touchwiz S-Pen and other touchwiz functionality.
I went from the S3 to the N2. I miss all of the diversity of the S3 community but I do not regret switching at all. I love the phone and everything that goes with it.
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I got the N3 home last night
So far this phone is pretty awesome. I'm still going through all the setting. I will be rooted this weekend for sure. The phone is pretty quick to
First and foremost, I absolutely don't want anyone to think I'm complaining about developers or anything like that. I certainly appreciate everyone's hard work when they are putting together roms for any phone.
That being said, I am just curious why there are so few roms for the T-mobile Galaxy S5. I had the S1-S4 for Sprint and all of them had tons and tons of roms. All those roms had lots of theme work and unique items. I am not seeing any of that on the T-mobile side. Is this variant preventing that or is there just not enough love for it?
Just as an example.. check out these rom for the sprint S5....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s5/development/rom-team-nocturnalunofficalcm-11-0-t2883072
There is not too much of a difference between two touchwiz Roms. Its pointless to have same thing packadged with different names. I love the couple of options that are available in T-Mobile.
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In order for the rom to work with wifi calling it has to retain the touchwiz base, and like ceo.mtcl said theres only so much you can change. There is a CM rom available for the device, i gave it a test run on my G900T. It ran great but without wifi calling its almost useless to me
ok so am i missing something in these roms? none of them look any different than a stock rom. All of the icons are the same, the fonts are the same the notification panel is the same, there isn't any theming (sp? lol). Everyone defaults to use some wanam (which didnt work at all for me), but that's pretty limited. I'm sad in my pants right now lol....
goblue30093 said:
ok so am i missing something in these roms? none of them look any different than a stock rom. All of the icons are the same, the fonts are the same the notification panel is the same, there isn't any theming (sp? lol). Everyone defaults to use some wanam (which didnt work at all for me), but that's pretty limited. I'm sad in my pants right now lol....
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Have you checked the Unified Development section? And yes, since the arrival of Xposed, members can now do a lot to their phones rather than the developer spend 100's of hours themeing all the elements of a ROM and have a post every other day saying "it is too blue". It is comments like that that have pushed developers into saying "why bother". You cannot make everyone happy with how you theme something and members forget that these ROMs are made for the developers, and they decided to share...it is not their jobs and they are not getting paid for those ROMs. But NOW the power is in your hands thanks to Wanam and everyone working on toolboxes to allow you to do more. Not enough? There a several icon changing apps on Play. There is also Themer. Add that to all the awesome flagship phones released almost every 9 months by many manufacturers. A lot of developers have wanted a challenge so tried something new and changed manufacturers. So yeah...you won't see 30 TW ROMs anymore.
Also add Verizon and AT&T with locked bootloaders discouraging developers.
KennyG123 said:
Have you checked the Unified Development section? And yes, since the arrival of Xposed, members can now do a lot to their phones rather than the developer spend 100's of hours themeing all the elements of a ROM and have a post every other day saying "it is too blue". It is comments like that that have pushed developers into saying "why bother". You cannot make everyone happy with how you theme something and members forget that these ROMs are made for the developers, and they decided to share...it is not their jobs and they are not getting paid for those ROMs. But NOW the power is in your hands thanks to Wanam and everyone working on toolboxes to allow you to do more. Not enough? There a several icon changing apps on Play. There is also Themer. Add that to all the awesome flagship phones released almost every 9 months by many manufacturers. A lot of developers have wanted a challenge so tried something new and changed manufacturers. So yeah...you won't see 30 TW ROMs anymore.
Also add Verizon and AT&T with locked bootloaders discouraging developers.
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my thoughts exactly, well said Kenny!
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While I agree with Kenny on his viewpoint, I see go blues point as well. I, personally, prefer a more pure aosp rom myself. There is a lack of aosp development/releases for our device. I'm still running srock/unrooted, until a solid aosp rom drops, which I believe hasn't happened yet due to kernel development? Icons are themed and running ADW launcher to change icons and themes to keep things clean, but themes are still limited. Don't get me wrong, love the s5, mad respect and thanks to all the devs doing their work, but I see his point. Cheers!
chazel3 said:
While I agree with Kenny on his viewpoint, I see go blues point as well. I, personally, prefer a more pure aosp rom myself. There is a lack of aosp development/releases for our device. I'm still running srock/unrooted, until a solid aosp rom drops, which I believe hasn't happened yet due to kernel development? Icons are themed and running ADW launcher to change icons and themes to keep things clean, but themes are still limited. Don't get me wrong, love the s5, mad respect and thanks to all the devs doing their work, but I see his point. Cheers!
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Looks like a lot of the "flavors" of AOSP are covered: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development
My guess is there would be a lot more if the bigger 2 carriers AT&T and Verizon hadn't made AOSP impossible with their locked bootloaders. That would seem to be the main reason for lower development after the S3s.
Reason also is the S5 is not as popular as thought, many were sold, but to users that could care less about doing custom roms, and the age group is probably the younger crowd. The OS is simply awful.
Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
TheArtiszan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
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yes you can as long as you dont care about tripping knox.
But be warned, Make sure you only flash something that is designed for the s5 and something that has been tested and works on the s5.. You can still brick the phone if you make some stupid mistakes or decisions.
Remember that Flashing the phone is your responsibilty. So if you screw up and brick, dont blame anyone for your mistakes. Reading and searching is your best friend, before you flash anything to your phone.
Yeah to flash anything from there you would have needed a custom recovery this tripping the Knox counter.
Even if there were aosp roms for our specific device, I doubt that would be different. Since aosp roms all have custom kernels that would trip Knox anyway
TheArtiszan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, we can probably flash the ones from unified development no?
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Look 2 posts above yours. I already linked to that section...the answer is yes.
I live in a area where I need wifi calling, so.. I've never had the option to be free with ROMs, really sucks .. what I want, is a Nexus... or a One Plus phone, but I'm stuck.. what can ya do lol
I know how OP feels, i personally will be getting the Nexus 6 when it releases or the Z3 and retiring the galaxy s5
I appreciate the hard work the few devs we have working on our phone have been doing but this is like the galaxy note 2 community imho, i got the phone with the hopes that the community will be like the galaxy s4
in addition to the unified ROM's i have been able to get a ton of these TW roms to work on my tmobile s5 simply by flashing a t mobile kernal right after the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
eh, custom roms
tensux said:
in addition to the unified ROM's i have been able to get a ton of these TW roms to work on my tmobile s5 simply by flashing a t mobile kernal right after the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development
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I use the Omega rom with TMO modem and it's great. Although iB4STiD's roms are great as well.
Flash Internation ROMs then?
Only thing you'll lose is Wifi Calling.
Hang tight cause its about to pour on the S5 forum...The Sicness is coming...
@The Sickness