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I've got a US Galaxy Player 5.0, and it's my daily driver. I mostly use it as a PDA (got it to replace a really aging Palm...), but love playing games on it, using it as a camera, and browsing the web as well. I saw a Nexus 7 today, and realized I want a performance upgrade for my Player, but I don't know what ROMs are in what state. I know some have certain bugs, others don't, and I want to make an informed decision based on what other people have tried.
I think I want to try something like a stock 4.0/4.1, but I could be open to customized versions as well.
I've looked a bit at EtheralRom 2.4, but being a noob I can't post there to ask questions. I know I've seen some other ROM's in previous visits to the site, and I've always started my search with the All-In-One thread.
Absolute must-haves:
-Working Cameras
-Working GPS
-Working Bluetooth/Wifi
Don't care so much about:
-Audio quality/supported formats
I am also using my Player to debug an Android App I have on Play, so if there's anything I should know about that connection I'd appreciate it.
If you absolutely need the camera then no ICS for you, it is currently work in progress.
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Dr. Cyanide said:
I've got a US Galaxy Player 5.0, and it's my daily driver. I mostly use it as a PDA (got it to replace a really aging Palm...), but love playing games on it, using it as a camera, and browsing the web as well. I saw a Nexus 7 today, and realized I want a performance upgrade for my Player, but I don't know what ROMs are in what state. I know some have certain bugs, others don't, and I want to make an informed decision based on what other people have tried.
I think I want to try something like a stock 4.0/4.1, but I could be open to customized versions as well.
I've looked a bit at EtheralRom 2.4, but being a noob I can't post there to ask questions. I know I've seen some other ROM's in previous visits to the site, and I've always started my search with the All-In-One thread.
Absolute must-haves:
-Working Cameras
-Working GPS
-Working Bluetooth/Wifi
Don't care so much about:
-Audio quality/supported formats
I am also using my Player to debug an Android App I have on Play, so if there's anything I should know about that connection I'd appreciate it.
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If the cameras is a must-have, then the ICS roms isn't for you. Also etheral is a rom for the SGP 4.0 and not the 5.0. As for ADB, (debugging) it is working normally.
Ok, good to know. Are there any ideas on when cameras might get integrated into the ICS builds?
If I give up on ICS, what gingerbread ROM would give the most noticeable performance boost?
Chip 1.5 rom
Dr. Cyanide said:
Ok, good to know. Are there any ideas on when cameras might get integrated into the ICS builds?
If I give up on ICS, what gingerbread ROM would give the most noticeable performance boost?
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I don't have any idea of when this could be integrated (it involves quite a long programming port). As for the roms, I don't know as I don't own a 5.0 but people says that chip is one of the best GB roms available for the moment.
Chip Rom ..ADW launcher Ex and its flying try screens and menus faster then GS3..on mine international is perfect but read that on US could have few bugs ..maybe one with US could tell you.
Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Pedro80 said:
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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Really frustratring to have a Verizon Note 2 and a Nexus 10 and can't enjoy FULL USB Audio Support. I have two DACs that work with USB Audio Recoder PRO, but I'd like to use that DACs with other apps, not just that app which isn't meant for music playback.
I asked this in the Nexus 10 forum and they said that the rom devs there just aren't interested in this feature (this is really frustrating considering there is a Nexus 7 rom/kernel [Timur?] that supports this, but not Nexus 10). I really don't want to root, unlock and go to the custom rom route with the Verizon Note 2, but the frustration is getting to me.
Any Verizon Note 2 ROMS and/or kernels provide full USB audio support such that I can take my dacs, plug them in via USB OTG, and enjoy audio not just from the USB Audio Recorder Pro App?
My dacs are Fiio E07k and Hifimediy Sabre, if it matters.
Thanks!!
pappy97 said:
Really frustratring to have a Verizon Note 2 and a Nexus 10 and can't enjoy FULL USB Audio Support. I have two DACs that work with USB Audio Recoder PRO, but I'd like to use that DACs with other apps, not just that app which isn't meant for music playback.
I asked this in the Nexus 10 forum and they said that the rom devs there just aren't interested in this feature (this is really frustrating considering there is a Nexus 7 rom/kernel [Timur?] that supports this, but not Nexus 10). I really don't want to root, unlock and go to the custom rom route with the Verizon Note 2, but the frustration is getting to me.
Any Verizon Note 2 ROMS and/or kernels provide full USB audio support such that I can take my dacs, plug them in via USB OTG, and enjoy audio not just from the USB Audio Recorder Pro App?
My dacs are Fiio E07k and Hifimediy Sabre, if it matters.
Thanks!!
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Well USB OTG works fine for me on stock and all stock based roms and it also works perfectly for me on Vanilla Rootbox, CM, and all AOSP Roms with Plasma Kernel instead of the stock AOSP kernel.
As for if it supports USB audio, I would think it might but as I don't have a pair of USB headphones I honestly cannot tell you. I have seen threads where people connected their Note 2 to their vehicle through USB OTG and had full audio but I don't know what they were running.
Something else that may be useful to you just in case none of our kernels have USB audio support, there have been quite a few reports that the N7105, AT&T Note 2, and T-Mobile Note 2 kernels work perfectly on our phone. The N7100 kernels don't of course and the Sprint kernels don't because they write to a different block. Using a Sprint kernel can cause soft, and possibly hard, bricks but using kernels from the variants listed should work just fine.
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There are quite a few posts on HeadFi about Android devices (Note2 included) and using direct output to the DAC. I don't have mine at the office to try, but here is the thread.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1710#post_9161612
jcollier said:
There are quite a few posts on HeadFi about Android devices (Note2 included) and using direct output to the DAC. I don't have mine at the office to try, but here is the thread.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/1710#post_9161612
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Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
pappy97 said:
Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
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The reason you don't see the VZW version of the Note 2 mentioned is because not many of us bother with setting up and using DACs on out phones. All the Note 2s have the exact same internals, except for the N7100 which has different radios, the only real difference is the software and what VZW chose to block.
I would suggest you try these kernels, and Roms like CleanROm ACE since it is based on the internationals stock ROM, out for yourself and see if they have the features you are looking for instead of being rude to people who try to help you.
For instance, and I don't know if this will help or not, I have DAC oversampling and DAC Direct in Plasma kernel.
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The reason you don't see the VZW version of the Note 2 mentioned is because not many of us bother with setting up and using DACs on out phones. All the Note 2s have the exact same internals, except for the N7100 which has different radios, the only real difference is the software and what VZW chose to block.
I would suggest you try these kernels, and Roms like CleanROm ACE since it is based on the internationals stock ROM, out for yourself and see if they have the features you are looking for instead of being rude to people who try to help you.
For instance, and I don't know if this will help or not, I have DAC oversampling and DAC Direct in Plasma kernel.
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I wasn't trying to be rude (my apologies if it sounded like that), but like I said, the frustration level of having Nexus 10 and Verizon Note 2 and not being able to properly use my DACs outside of USB Audio Recorder Pro App is frustrating. Doubly frustrating that nobody can point me to a kernel and/rom for the Nexus 10. And head-fi has been no help, and I did place my query there in that thread. No response.
I was hoping that I might get a first hand account of someone with a Verizon Note 2 who has a custom rom and/or kernel and is able to make this work (so I know which one to use) rather than experimenting with various combos, especially since my Verizon Note 2 is paid for by my work.
Nonetheless, your suggestion of using a ROM based on the int'l version makes sense. Plasma Kernel + CleanROM Ace sounds like it might be worth trying.
Thank you. Again, if anyone has any first hand experiences of making this work, please let me (us) know.
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I wasn't trying to be rude (my apologies if it sounded like that), but like I said, the frustration level of having Nexus 10 and Verizon Note 2 and not being able to properly use my DACs outside of USB Audio Recorder Pro App is frustrating. Doubly frustrating that nobody can point me to a kernel and/rom for the Nexus 10. And head-fi has been no help, and I did place my query there in that thread. No response.
I was hoping that I might get a first hand account of someone with a Verizon Note 2 who has a custom rom and/or kernel and is able to make this work (so I know which one to use) rather than experimenting with various combos, especially since my Verizon Note 2 is paid for by my work.
Nonetheless, your suggestion of using a ROM based on the int'l version makes sense. Plasma Kernel + CleanROM Ace sounds like it might be worth trying.
Thank you. Again, if anyone has any first hand experiences of making this work, please let me (us) know.
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I'm sorry I don't have any DAC's so I can't help you but just so you know the plasma kernel is only for aosp based roms, cleanrom ace is a touchwiz rom so you can't use them together. I find it odd though that he's basically saying you can do it on an aosp kernel for the n2 when you can't find one for a nexus device, which of course has a ton of more aosp development, but Shangrila knows what he's talking about more than I do.
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I'm sorry I don't have any DAC's so I can't help you but just so you know the plasma kernel is only for aosp based roms, cleanrom ace is a touchwiz rom so you can't use them together. I find it odd though that he's basically saying you can do it on an aosp kernel for the n2 when you can't find one for a nexus device, which of course has a ton of more aosp development, but Shangrila knows what he's talking about more than I do.
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I'm not saying you can do it for sure as I do not have a pair, all I am saying is that is what options are present in the kernel. Just because the kernel devs for the Nexus haven't built the features in don't mean they can't be built in, a lot of kernel devs only include stuff they want or use. I still haven't found an AOSP kernel with ext4 support built in, I know it can be done because KT747 has/had it but I have yet to see it on the Note 2 (and I mean all the variants).
As for Cleanrom ACE the only reason I mentioned that is because he said it works fine on the international N2, if that is true then the only difference would be the rom ( meaning VZW took that feature away like they did with so many others).
Here is a screenshot of the settings in STweaks, as I said I don't know if it will work or help but the settings are present.
And OP, joshm is right. You can't use Plasma and Cleanrom together. I had assumed you would know that seeing as how you were talking a lot about kernels I assumed you had flashed quite a few for the N2 and tested it already. If you haven't you need to, the only way to find out for sure is to test it yourself.
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pappy97 said:
Thanks, but I am well aware and participate in that thread. The problem with that is I don't see anything in there about VERIZON Note 2 and most DACs like the ones I have, nor do I see anything about roms/kernels for Verizon Note 2 that make most, if not all, DACs work with Verizon Note 2.
For example, apparently Fiio E07k is recognized and works with International Note 2, but not Verizon Note 2. Like I said, it is really frustrating to have a Verizon Note 2 and Nexus 10 and not be able to simply connect any (like the ones i have) DACs to USB OTG to the phone and use them without that USB Audio Recorder Pro app.
After getting shot down in the Nexus 10 forum, I was (Still am) hoping that someone might be able to say, "Oh yeah, so and so rom that you can get here makes most, if not all, DACs compatible without having to use USB Audio Recorder Pro."
But if that isn't the case, that isn't the case.
Thanks anyways (or in advance if anyone can help out)
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Completely forgot to check back. I am, as I type this, using a DAC with my Note 2 without using an special software. Setup: Note 2, Beans 19, Latest Perseus Kernel(didn't change any of the options; In fact, I flashed it just to test this). Phone -> OTG -> Hifimediy Sabre DAC (new tiny version) -> Sennheiser HD-650's. I have tested several albums with PowerAmp and everything works as expected. I also tested this with the lastest Sabre kernel and everything worked as well. Since, you have an N10, I'll try to test that later as well.
Hey guys,
I've recently bought a Pioneer Appradio 2 and I am looking for the least bloated rom that still supports HDMI via MHL out.
I do like the KK roms, but unfortuanately, the phone.apk (Dialer) doens't like the landscape format and will not display properly on the head unit. So I guess I'm stuck with 4.3 or lower..
What the slimest, least bloated rom that will fulfill my requirements?
This is only an answer you can determine based on your own research and testing.
Head over to the development threads and give them all a run. :good:
As these type thread almost always become arguments over which rom is best, and as XDA is not a support site. Members are expected to read and do their own research into matters such as these.
I have a Galaxy SII (international) and I love to use the MHL to connect to a big screen. I have read several forums and it is not clear to me if there is a Mod with this capability other than the ones from manufacturer/authorized carriers. I presently have Android 4.1.2 (the last one from Samsung) and would like to move to newer one preferably 4.4.2 Which one?
I have tried CyanogenMod, AOSp, Beanstalk with no luck. Your help will be greatly appreciated
I heard only AOSP and Stock support 5 pin MHL.
Mostly MHL cables I find are 11pin, don't know if it will work s2's 5 pin usb port.
Im also interested so
Roms are based on different things like CM11 or it can be a ROM based on rom which is based on and so on.If the orginal rom not based on anything doesn't mhl it probably is true that anything based on that will fail to mhl too