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HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
As previous One X great Devs found a way to move on development, sure X+ will have a lot of dev!
It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Simple google search solved the problem.
http://m.intomobile.com/2012/10/05/lg-optimus-nexus-announcement-pegged-late-october/
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
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That's a shame. I would've loved this phone.
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Source, please?
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-droid-incredible-x-rumored-to-be-googles-nexus-5-20120925/
http://www.pc-tablet.com/7693-andro...on-center-project-roadrunner-enhanced-google/
Wtf is happening with htc? Eclipze and me have htc amazes, and you can ask anyone that owns that phone, development is a pain
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Well the profits speak volumes. They're simply not retaining userbase.
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It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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LG is not that good name over on xda, as the support and software was crap. But most off times the hardware in Lg phones is damn nice and new tech so with google behind and no locked crap it might be a intressting phone.
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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Lame.
lazarat said:
Lame.
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So is your thanks meter....
Just giving my 2 cents on the matter
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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This could be possible but we are never sure, either way getting something like CM booting is only half the work, the real test is getting wifi, Bluetooth, GPS etc working without HTC releasing anything. The only way to get them working is work arounds. If you are a flashaholic that likes roms that are not based off stock then stay away.
If you like Sense then by all means get it
Yes totally screwed. Sammy can kiss my ***
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As someone who has an HTC flyer I must say, It saddens my to hear that HTC hardware isn't an option.
HTC has some aesthetically pleasing hardware and sense itself can be pretty nice. The tablet just feels great in your hands, and has a nice screen..
It absolutely sucks that HTC lets themselves get held back by poor sources.. I'm "ok" with my tablet not having the most up to date version constantly.. I didn't sign a contract for it.. but, I really don't want a phone that I'm locked into having for 2 years to be left out for no real good reason.
Still, I'd kill to see a smooth running JB rom that is factory quality on my flyer.
Thanks for the warning.
I have a Sensation and if it wasn't for CM this thing would have been in the garbage. I'm hoping to pick up one of these and I'm sure development work for it will eventually come around. It needs some time.
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I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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Exynos source is bring released so the s3 is obviously the best option in terms of romming and with exynos sources due to be released they can only get better
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Are there any major problems I should know about. I know I probably sound silly but it's a lot of money for a phone
EDIT: Specifically: Camera (Video and picture), FM radio(does spirit fm work).
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Are there any major problems I should know about. I know I probably sound silly but it's a lot of money for a phone
EDIT: Specifically: Camera (Video and picture), FM radio(does spirit fm work).
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Read the OP of some roms to find out i myself am on paranoid android and it runs perfectly
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I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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If roms are very important to you get the new Lgnex. There's no phone like a Nex. If you like Aosp, go Nex. I have a Gnex, GS3 and a N7 and I will be selling my S3 to grab LGnex soon as its available! If you like tw or sense then go w/ others but they will never have the amount of aosp roms that a Nex has. (Kernels too) You ever own a Nexus you will get confused as to what to flash. You also have a device compatible w/ the Android Sdk , fastboot, adb which are not available on any other device and make things much easier and 100% safe. I like my S3 but im Nexus all the way!!:thumbup:
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http://androidheadlines.com/2012/10/google-and-lg-officially-announce-the-lg-nexus-4.html
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Hi, Tech Guys here!
I don't know if I'm posting in the correct category but I thought it would be the best way to decide here which device to buy. Yes, I've looked on various sites and reviews for the best mobile device out there. Surely, most of them would suggest any one of the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One and Xperia Z. Well, I've not found any review considering the development of the devices and I don't think I'd. Thus, I decided to post a thread here on XDA where I can easily get recommendation for it and can have my priorities considered by the techies here. At the moment, I own a Samsung Galaxy S II. The only reason I still love it is the continuous development for it. So, my kind request to all of you here is to help me decide the best phone out there - the budget is INR 40,000 ($ 800). Here are the priorities (decreasing order):
Obviously, Android! I don't want restrictions for using my own device. I want the possibility to tweak the settings. I want Custom ROMS, Apps or you can say everything what this site is made for.
The best development support - I think Samsung and Google are the best for it, no?
Battery Backup. It's fine if I can improve it noticeably with tweaks.
Storage
Hell outta performance. I was very disappointed for the reviews that said though having the best performance, S4 noticeably lags a much.
Screen with good contrast and colors. Size also matters.
I don't want to pay much for bloat.
I don't know why my heart is not letting me go against the S4. But I can make the same understand if I've your points here.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone.
I've also added a poll to vote for your choice.
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
balajithegreat said:
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
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One doesn't have a memory card slot and removable back.
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try SIII
I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
Paras Lehana said:
If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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True, i'm just pissed at AT&T for my locked-bootloader-s4
That problem will sort itself out soon though...
zelendel said:
Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Paras Lehana said:
Not released in India yet. :/
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Yeah, I mean the device should've nice development support but the other stuff I've mentioned in the list also matters. I'll be comparing Nexus 4 with S4 (i.e. Researching...)
After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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Exactly what I came to this forum for. If they do release it, can I port it over to my T-Mobile HTC One.
Since the only device announced at I/O was the S4 vanilla edition, I decided waiting around for a Nexus wasn't worthy it. I have the Galaxy Nexus, but I never liked the plastic feel of it and the S4 feels the same way, just with way better specs.
I've always liked HTC devices going back to the Windows Mobile days.
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After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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I think it is true
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
I cant wait I had the nexus 4 and the. Got the I5 for like a week then got the s4
And boy lagged I use my phone's intenively multi taking between navigation texting and browsing and calling all with in seconds of each other while working and both the I5 and s4 could handle it but the One handles it beautifully it's amazing and the building is so mmm
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Sorry lost train of thought I can wait to flash stock and see how much more smoothly it runs with 4.2 lol
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and we will never fully experience this because of S being ON
U can flash already as long as u unlock and flash recovery s on will stay on but ucan still flash roms
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yeah but its not the same thing thought
Hmm.....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...tion-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/?ttag=fbwp
it would be nice to be back on stock but i cant go with out the awesome camera features....
xtkxhom3r said:
it would be nice to be back on stock but i cant go with out the awesome camera features....
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Yeah, I worry about Google's direction to slap AOSP on pre-existing devices (S4/One so far). Sure they don't need to design, engineer and product their own phone (Nexus 4) so from an infrastructure standpoint it makes sense. But once you start porting AOSP to multiple models, it will inevitably slow software releases because Google will have to ensure compatibility with varying hardware. Also, features will be missing that will make people upset (custom camera software, beats, multi-screen, etc).
Sure they will run pure AOSP, but at what cost (feature-wise)? That has me concerned.
Unless HTC/Sammy/Moto? release their highly configured software apps (camera, etc) independently, the AOSP experience on these currently produced devices will leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
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Yeah, I worry about Google's direction to slap AOSP on pre-existing devices (S4/One so far). Sure they don't need to design, engineer and product their own phone (Nexus 4) so from an infrastructure standpoint it makes sense. But once you start porting AOSP to multiple models, it will inevitably slow software releases because Google will have to ensure compatibility with varying hardware. Also, features will be missing that will make people upset (custom camera software, beats, multi-screen, etc).
Sure they will run pure AOSP, but at what cost (feature-wise)? That has me concerned.
Unless HTC/Sammy/Moto? release their highly configured software apps (camera, etc) independently, the AOSP experience on these currently produced devices will leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
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Then don't buy one. More options are always better. IMO
I miss AOSP, but for once I feel there's features on the Sense ROM I don't want to give up. I think they did a really good job and for once I'm not pulling my hair out and needing to root the phone. (That's saying something!)
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57586864/htc-one-nexus-user-experience-confirmed/
It's a reality guys... Really hope that devs can port this for us Tmobile users...
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I miss AOSP, but for once I feel there's features on the Sense ROM I don't want to give up. I think they did a really good job and for once I'm not pulling my hair out and needing to root the phone. (That's saying something!)
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Same goes for me. I could live without the gallery (although nice), beats (there are plenty of EQ apps out there), blink feed, and many others. the one piece i could not go without is the camera software! Sequence shot alone is stellar, and some of the other zoe features are great as well.
That said i am keeping my fingers crossed that the fine devs here will be able to port the camera software to the stock rom when it hits. If that happens this phone would be absolutely perfect in my eyes!
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57586864/htc-one-nexus-user-experience-confirmed/
It's a reality guys... Really hope that devs can port this for us Tmobile users...
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Yes, especially since the announcement did not say it would have TMO radios. I think this is basically an ATT device, similar to the 32 Gb unlocked version.
We may not have to port....
obiaquino said:
After Sammy announced the S4 is coming out with the "vanilla" experience, the rumor mill started going crazy expecting htc to do the same, specially after one of their execs teweeted "wait".
Those rumors where quickly scuashed when another high up in the company tweeted that no htc was not planing a "vanilla" edition... However now the same guy (geek.com) that leaked that sammy was coming out with their has said that indeed htc is coming out with one as well.
So what do you guys think? And the big question would be, if they do come out with it, would we (T-mobile) guys be able to port it over and get OTA's directly from Google?
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Check this article out! Im really starting to like HTC after reading stuff like this, I really hope they deliver soon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/3...-owners-to-remove-sense-ui-from-their-device/
I just want a camera that's a camera. Zoe seems stupid to me as do filters.
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shabazz18 said:
I just want a camera that's a camera. Zoe seems stupid to me as do filters.
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Zoe isn't on by default.
However, I found some pretty good uses for it. It's better than using the "action" shot setting. It's literally like taking freeze frames from high definition video. I've finally been able to get decent pictures of my dog. It's hard to get her to stand still.
The camera was the main reason that I stayed on stock but the aokp camera is actually really good
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If you use vanilla before it boring but functional
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I want to know for how long will the HTC One be officially supported by Cyanogenmod (an estimate). I want to get this phone but I also want to make sure cyanogenmod is at least supported for the 2 years of my contract. I have not had the best experience when it comes to HTC phones and variety of available stock android ROMs.
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I want to know for how long will the HTC One be officially supported by Cyanogenmod (an estimate). I want to get this phone but I also want to make sure cyanogenmod is at least supported for the 2 years of my contract. I have not had the best experience when it comes to HTC phones and variety of available stock android ROMs.
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Well the phone itself will be officially support by google for at least that long so I would say Cyanogen mod is a good bet.
Until devs get new devices and don't want to work on the One anymore, it could be a year, it could be 3, it's anyone's guess
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Honestly, how are any if us supposed to know the answer to this question?
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Honestly, how are any if us supposed to know the answer to this question?
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Yep it's all speculation ... they could all get Free S4's and drop us tomorrow (Cough:cleanrom:Cough)
you just never know
i dont know how long they will support it but without integrating the software to fully use the camera and other software specific features i feel its a step down from the htc one experience.
skinsfanbdh said:
i dont know how long they will support it but without integrating the software to fully use the camera and other software specific features i feel its a step down from the htc one experience.
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If we can take advantage of the ge One source then it will be able to take full advantage of it
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