moto photon replacement? - Motorola Photon 4G

was just wondering, i ran my phone over the other day, seeming to be having several issues.. sprint wants 100 to replace even thought they buy em from ya for 40.00
anyways friend has one for 25 bucks, is there a way to flash it instead of taking it to sprint. iknow the replacement is stock not worried about root, its nice i also know that unless 2.3,4 you cant unlock the bootloader and all pertaining that
flashed a few other phones but want to be sure before i make a 2 year decision lol.
thanX in advance.

barelynotlegal said:
was just wondering, i ran my phone over the other day, seeming to be having several issues.. sprint wants 100 to replace even thought they buy em from ya for 40.00
anyways friend has one for 25 bucks, is there a way to flash it instead of taking it to sprint. iknow the replacement is stock not worried about root, its nice i also know that unless 2.3,4 you cant unlock the bootloader and all pertaining that
flashed a few other phones but want to be sure before i make a 2 year decision lol.
thanX in advance.
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you mean like is there a way to not pay the activation fee?

If you just want to activate it and it is a Sprint phone with a clean esn, you can do that from the website. I bought a used phone from swappa and activated it without taking it in.

barelynotlegal said:
was just wondering, i ran my phone over the other day, seeming to be having several issues.. sprint wants 100 to replace even thought they buy em from ya for 40.00
anyways friend has one for 25 bucks, is there a way to flash it instead of taking it to sprint. iknow the replacement is stock not worried about root, its nice i also know that unless 2.3,4 you cant unlock the bootloader and all pertaining that
flashed a few other phones but want to be sure before i make a 2 year decision lol.
thanX in advance.
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If your friend just kept it stock the whole time, chances are that it is 2.3.5 which means you cannot flash to CM 10.1. But either way you need to contact Sprint so that they can update the MEID of your friends device to be tied to your account. You can do this over the phone but to me the bigger concern is whether you can flash it or not. At this point, the Photon 4G is at end of life support. Personally I am so sick of Gingerbread and I can't wait until my LG G2 comes hopefully by the end of this week or early next week so I can get some triband LTE and ditch Wimax forever.

Are you asking if you can use it with some other provider? If that's the question, the answer is yes by flashing the Japanese (KDDI) radio it will unlock the GSM capability then it can be used with AT&T/T-Mobile/etc, any carrier that uses a SIM card. No need to keep using Sprint with the Photon, basically, there are options available.
As for using something newer like Jelly Bean or even Kit Kat, I doubt we'll see any more development than has already been done over the past 2+ years now. The Photon is a nice device for its time but, it's long past its prime. If you can get another one for $25 I'd say go for it since you already know the limitations of owning one as long as the replacement one is in good condition, etc.
If you like the Photon, stick with it, if not spend the money towards something more current.

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As for using something newer like Jelly Bean or even Kit Kat, I doubt we'll see any more development than has already been done over the past 2+ years now. The Photon is a nice device for its time but, it's long past its prime. If you can get another one for $25 I'd say go for it since you already know the limitations of owning one as long as the replacement one is in good condition, etc..
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Th3Bill is back and is gonna try to get 4.3 and 4.4 working on our Photons. So it's not quite dead yet!

Yah, I know, and it's capable to a degree especially Kit Kat which should run well on lower spec devices. Thing is, people need to realize when Google says "lower spec devices" they mean BRAND NEW lower spec devices which are way more powerful than lower spec devices that are 2+ years old so...
While the Photon certainly has some life left in it, the (still) locked bootloader for most people is still going to be too problematic to do anything serious with the device unfortunately. I just had a chance to get one in great shape earlier for $50 and passed on it, I'm not interested in doing this whole older hardware thing anymore.
I had a Galaxy S4 Active recently and ended up selling it, it's the best smartphone I've ever owned (of over 40 in the past decade or so) and now I'm missing it something fierce.

out of curiosity since the photon has been gone for a while and not produced. if i was to do the insurance replacement for $100 what phone would i get back?
would they send me a used/refurbed photon back? or upgrade me to a different phone?
I've heard of people doing insurance claims and they get a choice of phones to pick from (not a top of the line though).
What would you suggest i say at the sprint store to find out if theres a different phone option?

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Root & bootloader/custom ROM access?

I've been using custom ROMs on my Touch Pro (GSM) for quite a while. It's my understanding that GSM and CDMA phones have different crack/root methods. The international Galaxy S phones are all GSM right now until Verizon and Sprint release theirs, correct? Does this mean that the root process and the ROMs in the Galaxy S forum that are already there will not work on the CDMA Galaxy S phones that are launching shortly? (in other words, the CDMA version hasn't been rooted and the bootloader is uncracked still, right?)
Anyone following the current instructions for rooting a Galaxy S with the CDMA version about to come out could permanently brick their phone, I presume?
Only time will tell. Looked at the galaxy s root method and its simply a root kernel flashed. I don't know if it will have to be modded for the fascinates software and hardware change but I hope not. as far as the euro version the boot loader is open. Lets hope it stays that way. Or I'm off to HTC
As I understand it will have to be modded becuase kernels for CDMA & GSM are very different, but I think that Samsung is going to be releasing these phones with unlocked bootloaders, so they should be very easy to root, which is a really good thing because that touchwiz UI is just horrible.
Honestly I would rather have touchwiz and Bing than a locked down phone. You can always install adw or launcherpro and maps to replace Bing
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Honestly I would rather have touchwiz and Bing than a locked down phone. You can always install adw or launcherpro and maps to replace Bing
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Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
i feel the same way wont buy another motorola phone even if it comes out with a 12mp camera prints money and has the omap4430. dont want my phones locked down
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Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
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There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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Aye, exactly what I'll be doing. I only hope the Fascinate comes out within 30 days of the Droid X.
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Aye, exactly what I'll be doing. I only hope the Fascinate comes out within 30 days of the Droid X.
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Yep hopefully, it will make my decision a lot easier. The one only reason I would go with the Fascinate is because of it being unlocked. I love the hardware on the droid x, but I want to be able to run Ubuntu and other OS's off of it. I plan on using my phone like a laptop basically.
ritkit said:
There is no way verizon is going to say the release date before the droid x comes out, because it would hurt sales for the Droid X. What I am going to do is purchase the droid x and use it. There is a very good chance they will tell the release date between now and 30 days from now. If the release date is within a reasonable time frame then I will return the droid x at the 30 day mark and hold out for the fascinate. If not, I will be sticking with the droid x. Yes you have to pay a $35 restocking fee, which in itself is absolutely ridiculous, but I would much rather have a phone that I am happy to have for 2 years than a phone that I would want to get rid of within the year.
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Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
givmedew said:
Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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I would have considered returning the Droid X simply because something better is coming out and I decided I would rather have it than the Droid X. I thought that was the point. I can see your point though, if you know for a fact that you will want this other phone and are "renting" the DX that is pretty low.
At the same time, so what. Verizon ultimately has to remain competitive with the other carriers, and I have a hard time imagining that the very small percentage of the overall market who "rents" phones that have to be sold as refurbished are artificially increasing your price that much. I could be wrong.
jack_isidore said:
I would have considered returning the Droid X simply because something better is coming out and I decided I would rather have it than the Droid X.
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Oh, also I am going to return the Droid X within 30 days and wait for the Fascinate. I was hoping to like the Droid X and didn't even consider the Fascinate, but I've had problems with the Droid X hardware and software so far and have buyer's remorse pretty bad right now.
givmedew said:
Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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You make some good points, and it irritates me when people return a product because it didn't overclock as much as they'd thought, or that they flashed an unofficial update that bricked it, or something else. But, with a phone, there's no way you're going to put that device through its paces to know if its right for you after playing with it for 10 minutes at the store. I don't think an All Sales are Final policy would be a good idea, personally. Can't speak for everyone, but if I knew I couldn't return a phone, I'd wait weeks before purchasing it for reviews and user experiences to proliferate.
You hit the nail on the head with staggered launches though. I'd rather see high end phones launch every 6 months or so so that I've always got something to look forward too when my contracts run short.
givmedew said:
Is this guy serious!!! Does no one at all have a clue as to why they have a restocking fee? First off the exchange policy used to be 14 or 15 days or something like that. Now that its 30 a lot more people probably return phones and now that phones cost so much more than they used to it is likely Verizon did this just to put a slight reduction in the amount of returns.
Do you think they resale that phone you return? Do you think Motorola just gives them the money back for it? How about Definitely not for answer 1 and probably not for answer 2 I used to work for a company that sold pioneer elite products they had a no refund policy to us meaning even if it was defective. So what happens to a phone when you blatantly misuse the refund exchange system? Well I would guess that every single plastic/metal exterior part is replaces and it is used for a refurbished unit when someone thinks there perfectly fine phone is broken.
Soooo.... what is the end result? I pay more for my phone and my service because Verizon's cost is artificially raised by someone who just lacks either understanding or ethics. If you are one of these people which one are you? After reading this and you still do it you are the later.
Do not think that renting a phone is your right. What right do you have to ruining a $500 phone? Are you engadget are you writting a big review? Why don't you just save $35 save Verizon and its customers $500 and wait for the Samsung to come out.
I bought the X yesterday before finding out that it is super locked down when I receive it in the mail today I will choose one of 2 options. ... I will return it without activating it or I will use it until the samsung comes out then I will give it to my girlfriend since she doesn't care about rooting except that it makes everything on her phone pink (she will live without).
If you want the samsung get the samsung just wait for it. Also the correct game plan for Verizon would be to put the phone about 45 days outside the droid x launch. It would stager their sales and reduce the chance exchanges for the droid x. We will see what happens but who knows.
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+1
I'm so glad to see this. Way too many people return phone for phone knowing they will never keep phone #1. That is wrong - there is no other way of looking at it. Verizon will let you sit there and play all day on a phone to try it out - there is no necessary reason for someone to have to go home to try your possible new phone. If you make a purchase and come to realize that there is something you just can't live with... then you have a viable reason to make an exchange. If not... maybe try to live with a little honor and respect in your life?
Don't be that guy... that guy is a loser.
- AdamZ
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I'm so glad to see this. Way too many people return phone for phone knowing they will never keep phone #1. That is wrong - there is no other way of looking at it. Verizon will let you sit there and play all day on a phone to try it out - there is no necessary reason for someone to have to go home to try your possible new phone. If you make a purchase and come to realize that there is something you just can't live with... then you have a viable reason to make an exchange. If not... maybe try to live with a little honor and respect in your life?
Don't be that guy... that guy is a loser.
- AdamZ
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AdamZ.... I miss you ( Smoked Glass used to be my favorite ROM. Where you been man? How ya been? haha. Are you gonna pick up a Fascinate?
jack_isidore said:
Oh, also I am going to return the Droid X within 30 days and wait for the Fascinate. I was hoping to like the Droid X and didn't even consider the Fascinate, but I've had problems with the Droid X hardware and software so far and have buyer's remorse pretty bad right now.
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Funny to look back at some of these old posts...
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Roland Deschain said:
Yeah. If there is still no release date announced for the Fascinate by Thursday evening, I am cancelling my Droid X pre-order at Best Buy. I'm only picking up a Droid X if I can use it and then change to the Fascinate when it comes out, assuming the date is less than 30 days from the X launch
I'm going to buy, and stick with, the Fascinate either way. Screw Motorola and their Apple-like "locking down" mantra.
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They can get away with that with the majority of the sheeple - who think apple is the greatest.

I bricked my phone

So, I was playing around trying to build a ROM in the HTC Kitchen available in Chef Central, and when i flashed the completed ROM it gave me and error about Busybox. i checked their FAQ and read that to fix this error you need to flash this certain SPL.
I flashed the SPL, and now my phone is in a state that i believe is called "Bricked." I can plug it in, and the charging LED comes on. try to boot (Normal, Amon-Ra, or hboot) and the light goes off, screen stays dark, and nothing happens. pull the battery, unplug/replug, boot, same results.
how frakked am i?
Yeah you probably are bricked :/ maybe someone can help you, best of luck!
[Q] question bout bricking
just a question but if you brick your phone does anyone know if you get a diff phone for a replacement or do they just send you a refurbed eris?? any insight is appreciated
most of the time they will send you a replacement of same model if they do replace it. bricking it is against the warranty so it depends of the vzw reps decide to replace it for you.
well truthfully im just tired of the phone and i want something different. and from what ive read on the verizon forum everyones haveing problems with the 2.1 OTA (even tho im on froyo =D) but i didnt know if they would give you a incredible or droid as a replacement if you tell them it did it while installing one of their " OTA upgrades" since the eris has been discontinued? but thank you for the feedback
Do you have any sort of warranty with verizon?
If so just call and say that you lost it. You can get a new one shipped to you for like $80, if you were at an upgrade I would say that you should just go get an incredible. It feels like an eris but at least twice as fast. I have both an eris and incredible and love both Bricked the Incredible at least 8 times... lol.
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Do you have any sort of warranty with verizon?
If so just call and say that you lost it. You can get a new one shipped to you for like $80, if you were at an upgrade I would say that you should just go get an incredible. It feels like an eris but at least twice as fast. I have both an eris and incredible and love both Bricked the Incredible at least 8 times... lol.
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is there anyway you can go in and pay extra money for an early upgrade?
Not unless you want to pay full retail price. I got my eris in the first week of March and 37 days later the incredible came out. The VZW reps said I was 7 days past my 30 day return period and if I wanted to switch models I would have to pay full retail price. I said EFF that and decided to root my eris. After 12 months, I will have the option to early upgrade without my $100 credit at upgrade price. Read your contract, you signed it. I'm going to just wait because by the time my upgrade rolls around the LTE network will be up and running and since I already have an unlimited plan, I will be grandfathered in with no data caps on the 4g network.

[Q] Buying an Atrix

Hey guys,
Looking to buy an Atrix. A couple quick and noob questions.
1) Where should I buy it from? I have an upgrade on AT&T in August, but from all indications it seems the Atrix is pretty underpriced versus things like the SGII and stuff. Go ebay? Any better choices online for a barely used Atrix?
2) Bootloader. I know it is about to be unlocked, and I saw something about maybe an international unlock already available. You guys think there will be plenty of devs for the phone once we get around to getting it unlocked? I don't want a phone as big as the SGII anyways.
From there, do you guys think its a smart idea to get an Atrix when I have an upgrade available soon? My thinking is getting the Atrix off contract, selling my Captivate, then around November or so when a new batch of phones come out on 4G LTE possibly getting one of those. Maybe the Nexus Prime or something by then? What do you guys think?
I can try and opinate on 2 and 3
2 - There already seems to be a lot of devs involved. Not only cyanogen mod is being ported, there are already a list of ROMs on development. And the bootloader is already unlockeable here on this forum
3 - The Atrix may take some time to take off and reach its full potential, it's one of those phones that needs that extra effort from buyers to make it shine. If you're aiming for a buy in november, it's probably best to just wait for the next batch of phones. I bought the atrix cause I plan to keep it for around 2 yrs.
I'm about to buy an atrix too, and I'm getting it from Craigslist for 280 dollars. I'm saving my upgrade for later.
That's the best way to go.
Viamonte said:
I can try and opinate on 2 and 3
2 - There already seems to be a lot of devs involved. Not only cyanogen mod is being ported, there are already a list of ROMs on development. And the bootloader is already unlockeable here on this forum
3 - The Atrix may take some time to take off and reach its full potential, it's one of those phones that needs that extra effort from buyers to make it shine. If you're aiming for a buy in november, it's probably best to just wait for the next batch of phones. I bought the atrix cause I plan to keep it for around 2 yrs.
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Well here is what I'm thinking:
I can sell the Captivate for ~200, what its going for on Ebay. That puts my Atrix cost down to $100 total pretty much. Then come November, I'm hoping I could resell it for like $200 maybe? Basically would put me at $-100 total cost for the phone, and I'll put the $100 towards my upgrade. So I definitely don't think its a problem to buy it now if its the phone I decided on, because the value seems so low that it isn't going to depreciate as fast as say the SGII from now until it becomes available and such
Anyone else say Craigslist > Ebay for buying the phone? I'm thinking that may be the case as well if prices are that cheap usually
Well I'm going Craigslist because you meet in person, in public, and pop in your sim card to test the device. If it works right then make the transaction.
EBay just seems way to risky to me.
The dev list is growing as we speak! There have been two roms released in the passed two days, both from new devs. Im optimistic. Plus, on cm7 stats, there are 15 devs running cm7 on ATRIX, which makes me optimistic for a future cm7 release. Hope this helps! Tis a great phone.
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[Q] Worth the upgrade from thunderbolt or wait?

I'm able to upgrade from my Thunderbolt to the Rezound for $99 (I can't seem to stomach the 2-yr contract even at that price!). I like my Thunderbolt but I have the itch to upgrade.... I can probably even sell my Thunderbolt on Ebay and make $100 lol. Anybody coming from a Thunderbolt wishing they stuck with the Thunderbolt and waited for a quad-core?
It's head and shoulders better than the Thunderbolt, but you may as well wait. With only two-year contracts these days it's worth the wait.
I've owned both, and I love my Rezound, but I got it as a replacement. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
tekhna said:
It's head and shoulders better than the Thunderbolt, but you may as well wait. With only two-year contracts these days it's worth the wait.
I've owned both, and I love my Rezound, but I got it as a replacement. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
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How did you manage to get it as a replacement?! I am on my 3rd replacement for the thunderbolt and they absolutely refuse to give me anything else.
anothen said:
How did you manage to get it as a replacement?! I am on my 3rd replacement for the thunderbolt and they absolutely refuse to give me anything else.
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It was kind of a mess, and it took a week of ****ing up customer service, executive customer service, and some nasty emails. I don't recommend it.
Did you get your TBolt on a one-year contract? That's probably the problem. They told me they pretty much wouldn't give someone who was about to be off-contract a new phone. They eventually did, but it was awful.
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It was kind of a mess, and it took a week of ****ing up customer service, executive customer service, and some nasty emails. I don't recommend it.
Did you get your TBolt on a one-year contract? That's probably the problem. They told me they pretty much wouldn't give someone who was about to be off-contract a new phone. They eventually did, but it was awful.
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Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol
Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.
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Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.
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There will be an HTC One on Verizon soon enough. The MSM8960 SOC supports CDMA and LTE.
MrSmith317 said:
Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.
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rumored HTC fireball is CDMA and modeled ADR6410 which would be a successor to the Thunderbolt. If it's quad-core and coming in the next 4-6 months it may be the way to go...
anothen said:
Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol
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I was only able to because a CS agent ****ed up. Or, rather, did their job, and Verizon claimed they ****ed up, and so I appealed to a higher power.
A Verizon CS promised me a Rezound as a replacement, said it was in the mail, blah blah blah. I called a few hours later when I realized I wasn't sure if had included a battery and back in the package. The nice lady I talked to saw the order for the Rezound and no order for a battery and a backplate. So she ordered that and sent it to me.
Two days later I get two packages. One with the Rezound battery backplate and battery, and one with a Thunderbolt. One of those wtf moments. So I called in, asked what happened, and after hours on the phone they finally determined that the original CS agent was not authorized to give me a Rezound, and so the order had been cancelled, and they just sent me another Thunderbolt, all without telling me. All the while they gave me at least three or four different reasons, the first being that they had never ordered me a Rezound in the first place. So I asked the obvious question of, so why did I get a Rezound battery and backplate?
In the end they wouldn't budge. Only a Thunderbolt for me. No Rezound possible, despite them promising one to me.
I was kinda pissed, so I wrote executive CS an email detailing the situation. They called me, sorted the story out, and shipped me a Rezound.
I think the only reason I got a Rezound was because of their enormous series of ****ups. Without that they probably would have given me the same brush off they gave you. Well, they tried to give it to me. I'm not sure you'll have any luck--my situation was pretty particular.
Ironically I have a very similar issue. The customer service rep lied to me and said there is no other 4G HTC that is any better than mine so my option was to downgrade to a 3G HTC or take another Thunderbolt. I said "what about the rezound?". He told me the screen size was bigger on the Rezound so that is not possible. I responded by correcting him about the size. He said, "Ok fine, I will try to ship you the Rezound and you may have it by Tuesday but it will probably get denied. I will call you tomorrow if that happens". Sure enough, I was on the phone with his supervisor the next day because he never called me (shocker). They basically told me to pound sand in nice words. Eh whatever...
anothen said:
Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol
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That's weird to me. Because if you're able to upgrade then your contract is coming close to being up and you would be free to go to another carrier. A long time ago on Sprint or Cingular my phone broke when my contract was over and they said they didn't want to give me one for free (I had no insurance or anything) but at the same time they were unable to diagnose what the problem was since it couldn't turn on. So I told them if you can't tell me what's wrong with it and you won't replace it I'll just go get a free phone from another carrier. Within 5 minutes they were giving me a phone. They offered me a particular one and I asked about a different one that was the same price and they let me have that. This was in flip phone days, still it was $100 price on phone.
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That's weird to me. Because if you're able to upgrade then your contract is coming close to being up and you would be free to go to another carrier. A long time ago on Sprint or Cingular my phone broke when my contract was over and they said they didn't want to give me one for free (I had no insurance or anything) but at the same time they were unable to diagnose what the problem was since it couldn't turn on. So I told them if you can't tell me what's wrong with it and you won't replace it I'll just go get a free phone from another carrier. Within 5 minutes they were giving me a phone. They offered me a particular one and I asked about a different one that was the same price and they let me have that. This was in flip phone days, still it was $100 price on phone.
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I'm able to cancel in June... Verizon allows you to upgrade 4 months ahead of contract renewal.
It probably depends on your usage habits. My wife has a year left with the TB, but it's a great phone for her. The Rezound screen and camera are leaps and bounds better, but the battery life and overheating issues make me hesitant to say its a substantially better device.
If you are a power user who will really appreciate the screen and speed, upgrade. Otherwise wait for the next batch of phones that we're sure to see late summer or so. May as well stay on the cutting edge if you have the option!
tekhna said:
There will be an HTC One on Verizon soon enough. The MSM8960 SOC supports CDMA and LTE.
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Don't take this as a wiseass commnent or anything but...Doesn't the Rezound have GSM hardware? When (other than the iPhone) has a manufacturer retrofitted a phone to work on Verizon?
From my experience and other's, they will pretty much only bulge ONLY if you are still a year or so ahead from the contract being done. People where able to upgrade from a Droid Charge to other 4G devices, same with the Bionic. Im getting my wife her 3rd Droid Charge replacement, it keeps dropping 4G like there's no tomorrow whereas my Rezound is perfectly fine. One more complaint and they guranteed me a different 4G phone.
From reading a bunch of other similar posts like mine, I think I'm gonna make the jump. @ $99 for such a powerful device, I'd probably be crazy for passing it up when it very recently came out
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anothen said:
From reading a bunch of other similar posts like mine, I think I'm gonna make the jump. @ $99 for such a powerful device, I'd probably be crazy for passing it up when it very recently came out
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I agree, I do have a feeling the Rezound will stay the best HTC phone on Verizon until the summer and even then still stay relevant.
Don't tell that to Verizon, they did a piss poor job of marketing the phone.
EmerikL said:
Don't tell that to Verizon, they did a piss poor job of marketing the phone.
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Agreed! But I don't mind the price drop! Lol
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anothen said:
I'm able to upgrade from my Thunderbolt to the Rezound for $99 (I can't seem to stomach the 2-yr contract even at that price!). I like my Thunderbolt but I have the itch to upgrade.... I can probably even sell my Thunderbolt on Ebay and make $100 lol. Anybody coming from a Thunderbolt wishing they stuck with the Thunderbolt and waited for a quad-core?
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Dual core = not necessary Quad core = derp derp derp derp derp.

Is rooting going to end?

I love my LG G3. Love that I have it rooted with custom ROM. It is being kept alive because of this. I recently looked into upgrading (I am with Sprint) and looking at newer models of phones, but I am finding that there are no root solutions/ unlocking bootloaders for the newer models. Now I know all the international phones have some way to root them, but I live in the US and use Sprint. Does anyone think that rooting may become a thing of the past? I read that it is getting way more difficult to root. What does everyone else think?
Get a Nexus. I had the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 then figured I'd give the LG G3 a try and am disappointed. All I do is end up flashing an AOSP ROM anyway.
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How do the newer Nexus phones work with Sprint? Are there specific models you need to get to work with Sprint? Does Sprint WiFi calling work with them?
Currently under family contract with Sprint, so keep buying phones under contract since we are paying for it anyway. I think that is going away even for those of us grandfathered in with older contracts. I will definitely consider Nexus to replace my G3 if I can't get cheap G5 or HTC 10 when I go in.
Best Buy has the G5 for $1 with a 2-year extension. Sale ended, disregard. The same drama surrounding root and BL unlock as we went through with the G3 launch is currently playing out again with people offering bounties and getting in fights and taking their balls and going home. Gave me a lot of bad flashbacks. There are partial methods that have been released and then recalled, for valid reasons, but there are lots of jerks that are trying to bait the devs into releasing something... It's a clusterjam.
The HTC 10 is already BL unlocked via Sunshine (paid app) and if it wasn't $200 I'd already have one. If the G5 gets rooted and I can still get it for $1 I'll go that way. Now that it's back up to $149 I see no benefit to the G5. I got one for my wife and it's nice but if there's no public root method by the time I'm shopping I won't give it a second glance. I know this is off-topic, so sorry.
Rooting is a whole new game now with MM and the encryption on different partitions, and phone makers are less likely to make easy BL unlocks now that Android Pay is a thing.
So, rooting is not necessarily ending, but custom ROMs and recoveries (requires BL unlock) are more likely to fall by the wayside. Time will tell. It's a tenuous game with devs on edge, lay users demanding immediate results, and tempers and egos running hot on all sides. Maybe Pangu will open an Android division and shift the conversation.
SilverZero said:
Best Buy has the G5 for $1 with a 2-year extension. Sale ended, disregard. The same drama surrounding root and BL unlock as we went through with the G3 launch is currently playing out again with people offering bounties and getting in fights and taking their balls and going home. Gave me a lot of bad flashbacks. There are partial methods that have been released and then recalled, for valid reasons, but there are lots of jerks that are trying to bait the devs into releasing something... It's a clusterjam.
The HTC 10 is already BL unlocked via Sunshine (paid app) and if it wasn't $200 I'd already have one. If the G5 gets rooted and I can still get it for $1 I'll go that way. Now that it's back up to $149 I see no benefit to the G5. I got one for my wife and it's nice but if there's no public root method by the time I'm shopping I won't give it a second glance. I know this is off-topic, so sorry.
Rooting is a whole new game now with MM and the encryption on different partitions, and phone makers are less likely to make easy BL unlocks now that Android Pay is a thing.
So, rooting is not necessarily ending, but custom ROMs and recoveries (requires BL unlock) are more likely to fall by the wayside. Time will tell. It's a tenuous game with devs on edge, lay users demanding immediate results, and tempers and egos running hot on all sides. Maybe Pangu will open an Android division and shift the conversation.
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Would the HTC 10 work with sprint?
texasjmzmd said:
Would the HTC 10 work with sprint?
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Yes, if you get a Sprint variant. They're $199 w/ 2-year extension. Hoping a deal pops up sometime to cover low sales like that last one for the G5 did at BB. Unlocked phone should also work.
SilverZero said:
Yes, if you get a Sprint variant. They're $199 w/ 2-year extension. Hoping a deal pops up sometime to cover low sales like that last one for the G5 did at BB. Unlocked phone should also work.
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I've been a customer since 1993 with sprint, and I am NOT eligible for the "$199 w/ 2-year extension." Nice....
texasjmzmd said:
I've been a customer since 1993 with sprint, and I am NOT eligible for the "$199 w/ 2-year extension." Nice....
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Why not? I thought that was always an option unless you were not through your last 2-year extension. But I also know they do crazy things with customers, even long-term.
i'm hoping Sprint give Boost better phones .-. till then i'm staying with my G3

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