The original post for the easy instructions to root the NT are a mess. The original instructions for doing it on Windows aren't even complete. I started building the files by following the Linux version of the instructions since they actually made sense and had the files you were to get.
If I'm not mistaken though I ended up using this to root the nook although it wasn't really what I was looking for considering I had CM7 and I would get a boot choice to go nook or android. That all stopped when the sd card I was using freaked itself and failed leaving me stuck at the N screen unless I pulled the SD card. My intentions were to leave the NT stock and not mess with it and run Cyanogen on the sd card. What it appears I'm left with though (without installing a rom) is a co-mingling Nook OS and Android OS since I'm now able to choose a launcher and I have Android screens with those launchers in the Nook itself. Which this is kinda cool because I don't have to reboot the system to switch to the reader anymore.
I installed Launcher 8 to give it some WIN8 love and easy access for my fiancee whom uses a mouth stick to get around in android easier. My problem I'm having is the android system doesn't seem complete. I'm assuming there are gaps missing or something because things are slow and some things aren't working when the icon is selected. Which simulates the program isn't actually there or the files to make it work.
Obviously there wouldn't be a phone but there are other things that used to work with the dual booting CM7 installed on the old SD card that aren't working now.
Since I'm not exactly sure if the above is how I ended up rooting the device I don't even know where to go from here to adding anything to it.
I'm not a developer and loaded this thing up about this time last year. The scenery has changed over the year and I'm kinda lost with all this again. Spent most of the day yesterday trying to figure out where I was and really got no where. So hopefully someone get's what I'm talking about and can give me the push in the right direction.
Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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*The non working sd card*
It was running as a dual boot before with cyogen or something like that and it would be selectable to go to Nook or the CM7 Android. That card somehow just died and can't even be seen in Windows anymore (have an rma filed with Patriot).
I rooted the nook and now I have what appears to be a partial android OS running inside the BN Nook OS but things aren't functioning. (I prefer it like this vs the dual boot way) So it's like I need a gapps file or something. All settings links lead to the Nook OS settings page and nothing get's me to the Android settings which is why I state it appears to be a partial Android OS. I don't even know what OS version it is because nothing fully functions with the Android side of things. (Take the Launcher8 Loader I installed. No icons actually open what they should. Selecting an icon leads to that icons settings and not what it should be opening. I have the same loader on my Skyrocket so I know how it SHOULD function and selecting an icon to get options for it is not correct. You have to press and hold to get the button to set the icon options.)
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apparently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
asawi said:
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apprently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1488035
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
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404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
scgt1 said:
404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Brian's method looks a hell of a lot familiar like that may have been what I did instead but the listing of apps with his doesn't match what I have on the nook now: (only thing I didn't put in the list was what I installed off google play which is launcher8)
android reader
car home
chess
contacts
crossword
downloads
email
es file explorer
flash player settings
getjar
google search
home
home manager
home catcher
hulu plus
music player
my media
netflix
news and weather
nook friends
nook video
nookhwtest
nookviewer
nt hidden settings
pandora
play store
sound recorder
spare parts
splashtop remote
sudoku
superuser
talk
testcenterservice
twitter
That is all the installed apps that pull up under the Nook OS with using Launcher8 and swipping the homescreen to the left it pulls up a list of installed apps just like windows phone.
It must be brians anyway because I just opened the nook hidden settings and under the about Nook Tablet Hidden Settings it shows:
Contact information: [email protected]
Version 0.5.0
I'm just going to move this over here:
asawi said:
This is the development section. Not meant for Q&A. I've already told you how you can return the Tablet to out of the box condition over in that section.
Sent from my Nook HD+ using Tapatalk 4
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It is the development section I am aware of that and can read. I'm in the 10.2 thread which is actually what I want running on the NT. So what better place to get the help for it then in the thread for it like everyone else has.
Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box. Must have been someone else your thinking of. I don't want it to be out of the box though. The nook OS was already setup with apps and books etc. I just want to reverse the rooting I guess to remove the stock android from it so I can then use the links you provided to create a correct root and dual boot using wait for it.....
CM 10.2
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Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box.
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Ok I stand corrected on that matter, but stock out of the box isn't what I want.
I'm not sure you can undo what you've done without loosing content. But as long as you backup your sideloaded stuff, your BN books and apps can be dowloaded at any time.
I suppose you can stay rooted and just disable your alternative launcher and what have you, but you said something about your system being slowed up, and I susoect fixing that without a wipe of some sort would be difficult. Could be wrong though snce I haven't dealt with that myself. Let's hope someone that knows better might come along with advice more to your liking.
While waiting for that you can always make one of the CM 10.x sd card images and run it.It will work completely independent from your trublesome stock OS.
System isn't slow at all also anything side loaded came from B&N so could also be redownloaded like the books. I was just hoping to keep all that intact as it was. There just aren't certain things working that should is all. I'm sure if I was a dev and understood all this stuff more clear I could fix it. I would rather take the easy cheesy way out and just redo it. lol Too much stuff around the house falling behind while messing with this thing.
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Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Yea haven't heard back from anyone on the returning to stock without the complete reset so It looks like I will be moving books over in the near future.
So I'm getting back onto this thing and finishing it up either tonight or tomorrow.
Resetting the Nook to stock can all be done via the nook settings correct? IE no sd card needed.
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I just purchases a Nook Tablet 8 GB with software version 1.4.2 I would like to load the Adobe Reader android app onto it. Since this is all I want to do, I imagine I would only have to root it, right? I have a linux box running adb so I would simply download the .apk and push it onto the rooted Nook, right? Is it this simple? Sorry for the noob question, I have a Droid X so I'm not new to Android, however, I've never worked with the Nook Tablet before.
EDIT:
I did some reading and found this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553 It looks like it is the only method available currently, right? The video example shows the OP using Go launcher ex as the launcher. The thing is, my wife likes the standard Nook interface so I'm hoping this can be kept. Also, this Nook is registered to my wifes Barnes and Nobel account. Will rooting deregister it? Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826 load cm7 on an sd card and go that route
edit: lemme explain a bit more.. you get the android system with no changes to your actual device so no warranty issues.. wanna go back to stock nook.. take out SD card and bam back to stock
For stock you will need to root to have access to Google play a.k.a "android market" and for sideload apps once you're rooted you need to download NT hidden settings (download from Google Play)and go to hack settings and hit Unknown Sources after that you will be able to open apps you download in your Nook Tablet or apps you have copied to your sdcard.
~ Veronica
Thanks for the replies. Please excuse my delay in responding. I actually followed jichuan89 post in the link in my OP. It worked very well. It installed the market/google play and I was able to load apps. I kept the stock nook interface since my wife prefers it. The only downside I've noticed is that the apps installed from google play don't show up in the stock apps menu. You have to search for them. It's really no big deal, just thought I'd mention it. Anyway it's working great now.
@ lavero.burgos
I did not download the NT hidden settings that I noticed and I did not see any option for Unknown Sources. Maybe they installed with jichuan89's root method? I will check as soon as I can get the NT back from my wife . Also, I'm concerned about OTA updated from Barnes & Nobel. How can I disable this? Is that in the NT hidden settings somewhere? Thanks.
Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
Rooting and applying a custom rom like cm7 or cm9 do not necessarily go together, an unfortunate assumption many new android users make. The former allows you root access and thus you can do things with the device you otherwise would not have been able to do. Flashing a custom rom will literally change the operating system entirely. Both are also completely reversible. So the question is, what do you want? Root access or a new OS entirely (note that custom roms almost always have root access).
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ooojnrooo said:
Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
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I'm fairly new at this also, got my 16G NT (1.4.1) a couple days ago, and I'll tell you what I did. At first, I rooted it because I wanted (at least) access to the Kindle reader, but the google market/play is not available so B&N could control it. Rooting AND installing google apps (aka gapps) give you the market and more. From there you can install the go launcher and have a pretty nice overlay that looks ICS-like. Here's what I used and it seemed to go pretty smooth:
Part 1:
This thread by the developer Indirect shows how to do the root along with gaaps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583
And here is an invaluable video from albertwertz that goes along with it. This helped me get the confidence to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I403bagL9rw
He has an update to this show at the beginning of the video, but I did not use that.
The secret sauce is in making a bootable SD card with both the image that gives you CWM (clockworks mod), which is basically a loader that allow you to then load the .zip file which contains the root and gapps files.
After I went through the process, nothing seemed to have changed at all on the NT, but after some head scratching I realized that gapps is the key and it had in fact been loaded. So hit the home button and then search and type in market. Voila, the google market is now there and you can download anything that is compatible with the NT (like kindle and the go launcher).
Part 2.
The go launcher is great, but everytime I hit home, I had to navigate to the go launcher and launch the nicer ics-like skin, so I decided to go for CM9. I'm not at all disappointed that I did. Netflix does not work, but seemingly everything else does and does nicely. Here's how:
Basically, you just need to get the CM9.003 file, and "flash" that just as you flashed the root and google apps zip. I'm sure you have figured out by now that flashing just means loading the new program into "flash" memory, which is just a read/write memory that is non-volatile. (does not erase at power down).
What I wound up up doing is placing the CM9 zip file on a separate SD card, then used the one I originally used for rooting to get into the CWM recovery program. Once there, pop it out and insert the CM9 zip and run that one from CWM. Reboot and you're running Android 4.0.4.
Here's the link for the CM9 install, courtesy of developer chrmhoffmann:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534192
Here's a link to the CM9 zip:
http://goo.im/devs/chrmhoffmann/cm9/update-cm9-acclaim-alpha0.03-fullofbugs.zip
One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1. Here's the link to that file:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
It's the app for CM9, and just in case, here's the download link:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
So now you have 2 zips on the 2nd SD card. Run them both, first the CM9 zip and then the gapps zip, reboot.
Sorry that's so long, but that's what I did and it worked out well for me once I figured it out...
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One more thing. When you get into the CWM recovery program (the one you'll see when you boot from the 1st SD card, don't forget to run a backup of the original ROM, IE the factory version in case you want to go back.
I'm not an expert on the backup and recover process, and there apparently other ways to restore to the original NT 1.4.0 or 1.4.1, but I would do that anyway...
I wanted to say "very good" ! . and a note that i think should be added... is the importance of wiping the dalvik and the data cache within the flash process. . lots of people get clobbered by this ommission.
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One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1.
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Allow me to explain. Gapps, or google apps are a seperate package of apps created by google. They are not apps that are included with "pure" Android and thus Google does not want them included with roms for whatever legal reasons. They were included in the step 1 you gave because that is simply rooting. Rooting and throwing apps onto a rom like the stock version is not flashing a custom ROM. In fact its no different than if a developer were to release a custom rom that didnt have root access, but someone wrote a script that gave you root access and installed those google apps.
tl;dr gapps are legally required to be a separate package from custom roms.
Hi, I'm expecting my nook tablet 16GB delivery in 2 more days and would like to prepare the files needed to install Gingerbread. I got a few qns before jumping into the pool.
Note:
1) I have 16GB microsd for the device
2) I am using Win7
3) I have yet to know what version is mine running. Worse case scenario, lets say it's 1.4.3 is it still possible?
Purpose of buying the nook:
1) Read + Purchase books from B&N store
2) Read ebooks of different file formats not from B&N store
3) Get a fully working + stable Gingerbread OS
4) Able to dl apps (google or amazon)
Questions:
1) Is it possible to dualboot the stock nook rom with Gingerbread?
2) If not, lets say after I make Gingerbread my main OS, can I revert back to the stock nook rom just so it will be like the first time I turned on the device?
3) What is the latest and safest method for installing Gingerbread?
4) What are the files required.
Thats all my Qns. I tried looking ard the forums but I keep getting confused as there are alot of versions and most of them dont mention 1.4.3. I was actually planning to install ICS but I came to an understanding that it is not such a stable OS for daily use (as the above). I will also be helping to mod my friend so I decided to settle on Gingerbread as he wont be able to fix any problems that might surface if I were to usse ICS.
Thank you in advance!!
lets see
most likely it'll be on 1.4.3 so you just need to do an sd card rooting solution. see the dev section
grab another microsd card for "rooting purposes" only needs to be 2-4 gig card.
this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583 should have everything to get CWM installed put the recovery.zip acclaim.zip you want to flash on the card as well
gingerbread..
see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826 for instructions
PERSONALLY i have the SD version on a 16gig microsd card just follow the directions in that post, pop sd card out of computer reader, pop into tablet, turn on tablet, sm7(gingerbread 2.3.7) comes on and runs COMPLETELY from the sd card. no need to ROOT or alter the internal. AT ALL, you just "lose" the internal flash memory the sd version does not have access to the internal memory. just make sure you use something like easus partition master to make sure you have all the flash ram accessible.
we currently have cm9 and cm10 versions avail for both sd and internal use, i am using this one currently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824499 and its been very stable since the mic fix went in. i see you want stability, cm7 is more stable and more things run well on it- so far on mine i cannot get netflix to work(read play videos) and mxvideo player is a bit wonky on streaming files from my computer- still works great though.
as for making sure it can go back-if you are going to be using the internal cm7 version....
using the sd card you make for rooting-BEFORE you change to CM7, boot into CWM make sure your sd card is mounted, then backup your system to the sd card.
then to return to "stock" just reflash the backup you just made. done.
if you just do ROOT for the stock 1.4.3 you should have access to:
google market, amazon market, amazon video player, etc... it's the nook tablet rom, with enhancements.
cm7 i cannot get the amazon video player working, which will work on "stock rooted"- if you have voodoo's rootkeeper on and temporarily unroot the tablet.
Woots! Just recieved my tablet. Look like its a version 1.4.1 So is it advisable to upgrade to 1.4.3 since I can just root my nook to get the library of apps I want.
Btw you've been a great help Lenardo! Your reply is very clear. This is good for new Nook Tablet users.
Thanks!
Anw, I rooted my tablet while still on 1.4.1
So far so good, but I realise my google market only have free apps.
What will make the restrictions go away? Is it depending on the APP or the google account that's logged into? Currently I am not using a US gmail account (from what I know...) and unfortunately I'm not residing in US.
Is it possible to remove the restriction? I would like to have full access to the store.
Found a Market Enabler 1.6 Is it safe to use?
iapktop.com/market-enabler-1-6.html
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Lion City said:
Anw, I rooted my tablet while still on 1.4.1
So far so good, but I realise my google market only have free apps.
What will make the restrictions go away? Is it depending on the APP or the google account that's logged into? Currently I am not using a US gmail account (from what I know...) and unfortunately I'm not residing in US.
Is it possible to remove the restriction? I would like to have full access to the store.
Found a Market Enabler 1.6 Is it safe to use?
Thank You!
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I recently bought my second NT, the first one went to my son. On the first one, I installed CM7 and it works fine, my son mainly reads kindle books. I rooted the second one and blocked OTAs.
I do not live in the US either, but a gmail account can be established from anywhere in the world.
If you do not want to use the original B&N reader software, install another memory, CM7 or whatever you like or boot it from an SD card with another memory on it and leave the Nook as it is, but root it and block OTAs. If you continue to use the original reader software, simply establish a gmail account and download google play.
For me, this means, I can download B&N books whenever I am in the US and here in Europe, I use the kindle.
For starters. I am a Nook noob and I am not affraid to admit it.
I have read, read, read, and then read some more about rooting, roms, CWM, CM, and so on and I did puzzle most of the pieces together, but not all.
If I got it right there basically are 3 different roms one can choose for the NT:
Stock rom (the original state)
Stock rom Rooted
Alternate roms: CM (7,8,9), MIUI or any other variation of Android firmware distribution
The usage distribution of the roms can be found in a poll here.
Stock (original) limits you in using full potential of the NT, which typically means that you can not use Google Drive, install/use any apps other then the ones Nook market provides. You can not put apps on the home screen, use any widgets and you are very limited in what you can alterate on the system.
Stock Rooted is the state in which that you are still using the original firmware, however you now have root acces. This means that you have acces to Google Drive and are able to install/use most of the apps on Google Drive on your NT. You can use various launchers to access these apps and can set a launcher as default instead of the original launcher.
The easiest way to get here is by rooting your NT through an SD card. You only need the SD card for the rooting process. The (rooted) firmware remains on the internal memory of the NT.
In this, you:
Still have acces to all the original Nook apps and features (you are still using the original Nook system)
You have the possibility to UNroot the device and turn it fully back to it's original state
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
When going for an alternate rom, you have a diversity of choices, but all are fully seperate roms, that either replaces the original firmware or complements it (dual boot). What you get in return is a fully functional, tweakable Android system, on which the version depends on the rom that you choose. You can access Google Drive, install/use most apps, place widgets, use different launchers, etc.
The easiest way to get here is by using a SD card. I can not find the specific topic that explains the procedure though. It seems that you can choose to maintain the original firmware and place the rom on the (external) SD, which leaves you with a dual boot system, or you can replace the stock rom with the custom rom.
In this, you:
Loose usage of all of the NT's orininal apps and features (when using the custom rom)
What I am not sure about is:
Where in the process you can choose to either place the custom rom on the (external) SD or install in the internal memory.
Are there any other important differences between Stock Rooted and custom rom?
My main question is: Can you confirm my findings and help me answer the questions/uncertainties?
I can imagine this thread would be of help to others who spent a lot of time reading, but are left with some basic questions. That is why I took my time writing it.
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
Thread moved. While I appreciate the effort you've put into this post by reading up and finding out about all the different ROM's, you need to also look to make sure you post in the correct sections of the forum and this is also stated in the sticky in the General section, not to post questions in General. If your thread is a question/multiple questions and you even tick the "Is this a question box" when creating the thread then you must post it in the relevant Q&A section.
Thanks
AvRS
hd2joel said:
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
@AvRS: I did read the section about no questions in the General Forum's policy. I actually thought I posted in the Q&A but appearantly I didn't. I probably started the thread just before I read that part. Thanks for moving it to the proper section.
chris996 said:
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
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For the first point: Not on firmware 1.4.3, but on lower firmwares you can download an app called Nook Color App Manager (you have to side-load it as it is not in the Play store) that will allow you to do just that.
For the second point: You cannot place widgets on the Stock launcher. You have to install an alternate launcher for widgets.
Also, I think you mean Google Play, not Google Drive.
chris996 said:
Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
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Unless you re-partition your Nook, you never have access to the full 8/16GB. You only have access to the 1GB MyNook partition. You have to re-partition (or have a B&N store do it for you) to get more space for user apps.
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
chris996 said:
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
Number 3 update
Just one update on part of the question, answer to 3); Magicjack app works on it.
ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
"Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?" Nope, rooted not rooted on any version will not support direct Skype or Video conferencing app that I know of on NT. This may change once OTG is implemented in future development.
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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for your first question, there is an SD version but it has not been confirmed to work with NT 8GB
You can however make your own internal sd card version using the internal version provided here and instructions that are listed over a succulent's blog: www.iamafanof.wordpress.com
if you aren't all too tech savvy, I would advise against making your own bootable SD, but if want to experiment and learn a thing or two, go for it!
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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There are instructions on how to install/create your own SD Card version of any ROM, you just have to try it out.
Skype isn't supported at all. It will install (according to the Play Store online) on my JB (AOKP) NT16, but I don't think it will run. For one thing, there's no camera or camera support.
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
BadKid3011 said:
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
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Why not use Magicjack for voip, it free unless you want to get the dongle for less than $30. With video conferencing app like skype, you can only text but what the point of that.
The official guide for installing cm12?
Hi everyone,
I have no idea if this is the place to post my question and I am really sorry if this is not.
Umm..
I would very much like to install CM 12 on the Nook Tablet from download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=acclaim&type= but I have no clue how to do it.
I tried the link wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim which seemed a good place to start for a newbie until I saw this sentence "Bear in mind that the boot.img included with the Clockwork Mod Recovery does not support CM > 10.1.3" and belatedly realised that it wouldn't work for CM 12. *facepalm*
Now I am back to square 1 of ignoranceville and it's pretty lonely over here.
If someone would be gracious enough to help me out, it would be hugely, ginormously appreciated with ALL of my heart! :fingers-crossed:
If you installed cm10 and you have custom recovery just boot to fastboot (hold the 'n' button during start) and install the recovery from cm12 thread. After this install cm12.
It's worth noting that you have to convert userdata partition to f2fs for optimal performance. There are two tutorials how to do it in the cm12 thread.
As I understand it.
It is indeed lonely out there in the stix, fellow noob. When I first came to XDA looking for rooting instructions, I was told to read read read, and I have indeed been doing that. But even then my knowledge has a few gaps.
First, I have a factory resetted stock BNTV250 tablet that is at version 1.4.3. I want to get to the CM12 Lollipop 'acclaim' nightlies on github.
As far as I can understand, these are the current instructions as a general overview;
1) Go from BN stock (what I currently have) to CM10. There are a couple of threads around that have enough information to get someone to this point. You format the (micro) SD card on your computer for fat32.
2) Then use the TWRP 2.8.5.2 from that thread on a properly formatted SD card (now ext4?) card to use the desired image (in my case CM12). Reboot and install CM12 using TWRP.
3) Then, to increase the performance (highly suggested) go to the "CMxx [sdcard as Emulated] {Walkthrough} Guide." So you can merge partitions into one 'single' large partition. But I am not sure if this can include the external SD card that I want to use or not (i.e. in that same partition). Also, I am not clear what is the largest size of SD card I can use on the nook?
I am also unclear if I could use an external USB keyboard or not with that (with a micro USB to standard female USB adapter)?
Ok. That's scenario #1. I *could* get eventually through all that and end up with CM12 installed.
But the *much* preferred scenario #2 that I do not know if it exists or not (indications are that exists for some versions CMXX) is to;
1) format an SD card, transfer the proper files onto it, put it in the nook, reboot,
2) the nook boots and automagically installs the desired CM12 image (or prompts a couple of times).
3) Then you shut down, remove the SD card, reformat it (ext 4?) , and install on device to expand usable memory for all those movies/music someone might want to watch.
I really do not know if scenario 2 exists exactly. I do know that #1 can be done.
As I said, I'm a noob like OP, and if anyone can fill in a couple of the gaps while I wait on the memory card to be delivered, I would appreciate it!
Edit: I don't understand why it's not possible to "sideload" TWRP (or something similar) onto 1.4.3 stock nook, then install an CM12 image from there.
The XDA forums can be like a maze sometimes! :laugh:
I also am having trouble with anything higher than cm-10.1 . I have jelly bean working on my nook tablet (bntv250a) right now. With the usual bugs
These are the files I have working now. cm-10.1-20130117-19-acclaim-HD.zip and gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip I have tried many other combinations of 10.1 and 10.2 and 11.1 always seem to end in boot loop. But I can seemingly ALWAYS boot those two files and bring jelly bean back. So I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with my install technique. Probably WRONG though !!!
I did finally try the latest cm12 and it amazingly did boot and not loop. BUT...... It immediately said android updating. Went through about 95 updating and then finally got to the welcome screen. Others have seem a million popups saying goo apps not working or something to that effect.
Anyway I was able to connect to wifi and start the registration. Unfortunately it was running VERY VERY SLOW !!! The keyboard kept disappearing and was so SLOW that I never made it through.
I am taking note of what kodjo said in a post above about f2fs. I'm going research that and see if I can figure it out. Kind of a last ditch effort.
Keep up the good work folks
latest snapshot for my B&N NOOK acclaim boot loops for me
latest snapshot for my B&N NOOK acclaim boot loops for me
latest snapshot for my B&N NOOK acclaim boot loops for me
This is what I tried the latest snapshot: cm-12.1-20151117-SNAPSHOT-YOG7DAO1K6-acclaim.zip
Constantly boot loops.
Had to revert back to this: cm-12.1-20151007-SNAPSHOT-YOG4PAO331-acclaim.zip
This is the gapps I'm using. Works fine with the 20151007 rom : open_gapps-arm-5.1-pico-20150923
What am I doing wrong ?
Any major changes in the recovery's ?
What is the recommended gapps ?
Had to revert back to this: cm-12.1-20151007-SNAPSHOT-YOG4PAO331-acclaim.zip
This is the gapps I'm using. Works fine with the 20151007 rom : open_gapps-arm-5.1-pico-20150923
Is there anyone using these old nooks anymore ?
Would it be possible for someone to post links to ROM's and GAPPS that are working on their 16gb B&N acclaim nook ?
That would be really appreciated. Then I can determine if it's my hardware or just my install.