Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Check out the dev sections, already tons of ROM's out for it including several AOSP ROM's. It's a great phone, welcome to the G2 world!
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Coming from the galaxy nexus this phone is really nice. Super fast, nice screen, and overall a great feel. The factory interface isn't too bad, but I do still prefer vanilla android. I'm on T-Mobile and there is a lot of bloatware on here. Does anyone foresee this phone getting much attention from devs?
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Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
I'll be joining the G2 community soon. Can tell you now... My plan is to root, stay on stock system and heavily debloat and tweak the system myself. Personally I'm tired of flashing roms and dealing with fixes, workaround and bugs. That's why I'm now on stock on my S2....And plan to keep it that way. After the tweaking and debloating it's smoother, better battery life and bugless.. Unlike just about any custom rom I've ever ran. I totally get the fun of flashing stuff and all that tho..... I'm just personally done with it. I just want a super stable device.
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Just curious, what exactly makes you prefer vanilla Android over LG's UI on the G2?
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I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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I don't use any of the bloatware from tmobile. I prefer the simple clean look of aosp.
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I believe he is asking why you like AOSP over LG's skin, not bloatware related since that can be removed either way.
I said I prefer the simple clean look of aosp....
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Root it. Freeze and or remove bloatware. You can also remove the bottom software keys.
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I don't want or need the bells and whistles LG baked into their launcher/home app. 7 gigs for a phone OS is pure crap. Just my opinion.
How big is the N5 ROM?
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give it a try, you might find yourself sold on the stock ui, its much smoother then any custom rom I have seen, even with all the bloat. This is coming from an recovered flasher.
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I just installed CleanROM XE 2.0 - more details in the AT&T dev thread. I've the AT&T LG G2, but it looks like it's set up to work on the T-Mobile variant too. Two days in and I think it's a keeper - performs really well and battery life seems just a bit better than stock. The way that the dev set up the install allows you to cherry pick the features that you want to keep from stock, as well as some of the stock software. It's a pretty slick install and I'm happy with this stock mod. Check out the details - the big draw for me is no Carrier IQ - and see if you like it.
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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Not to sound like a butt. But be pateint there are a lot of great devs and app biilders working on getting spen working properly on aosp and cm9. But in the mean time there are plenty of great roms that are debloated att crap gone and have all the spen features working.just need to read the op and pick which one sounds like what you want Flappjaxxx has a great rom out its le2 based debloated and spen features work.
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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Im no developer but Im pretty sure once official ICS is released and source is out it wont be long before that is possible but we'll see but yea like fezzy said there are plenty of great ROMS here already Flappjaxxx and Appdroid both have great stock ROMS that are debloated with all the touchwiz features available check em out
im using Papyrus and Memo for spen tw apps, image editing im using snaptastic on Paranoid android. I thought i would really miss some functionalities but so far so good, note running like a champ
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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They have to release te source for ICS thats what the developers need
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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The S-Pen app has nothing to with having source or not. The problem is those apps from the stock rom need the TouchWiz framework.
So we would need to rebuild framework compatible cross launcher for aosp?
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Hi, I think is good that we have LG's UI.
Because I have a Galaxy Nexus with a CM10 and there is nothing else. All the ROMs look exactly the same. With LG we will get mix of LG and CM or Aosp and that will look better.
What you guys think?
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I agree. I'm not to fond of all the Roms and how they are all the same. They all look the same and to me that's boring. I really like the ui.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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I would tend to agree with you. Having different UIs are a nice change of pace while other roms that mimic AOSP are visually boring after a while. However, I think the UI is taking up too much resources that causes the significant battery drain that many reviewers seem to complain about. Personally, once CM10 comes to the Optimus G, I will be using that instead.
With external SD u can have mutiple roms with different flavours
Biggest advantage that I feel which is pushing me for upgrade to this one , obiviously apart from monstorous horsepower underneath is the external SD card. I kinda liked having two roms simultaneously installed in my galaxy S2, always kept one TW based and other CM based.
With One X ,Lost this flexiblity. I hope we get good Devs derived to buy this powerhouse and can provide alot on rom options , both with LG UI and CM/AOKP. This is one of the reason I'm looking for this one.
Cheers to all who are already enjoying this !
noob question here, almost too embarrassed to ask, but how do you add/remove screens? Haven't figured it out yet :\
Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
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Eventually, maybe even sense.
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It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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Yeah.. that's definitely not gonna happen.
It just all depends on what u want. For me I'm a aosp user and hate every other overlay so for me it doesn't bother me if ROMs look the same. If it bothers someone then learn to theme or buy a device that u like the manufacturers skin on but no skin will ever perform as well as aosp.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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thats not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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Good argument but these manufacturers just take aosp and add **** on top. So your still getting the same aosp as a google phone with **** added on that always makes it slower and there's no way in hell an optimus outperforms the new nexus. Whoever said that (I don't care if it was a 100) is crazy.
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That's not always true. While aosp uses less resources, since it is geared to work on everything, it may not be as optimized as stock is. Apparently, the nexus 4 performs worse than the optimus g, which could mean that lg did a good job of optimizing it for the device in a way that aosp did not.
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I believe it only outperformed it because the benchmarks weren't optimized for 4.2 yet. Who knows what kinda of framework changes Google has done. Also keep in mind that all the Nexus 4 right now have pre-release software. All of them are bound to have bugs.
I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
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I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
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You would need to define your criteria for "best" first.
For me, "best" ROMs are ROMs that give me better speed, more features, and similar stability to stock. I also keep my devices for a pretty long time. So as they age I look to the community for support in keeping up to date. Hell, I still have a Tegra 2 tablet (Gtab) and my old Hero C laying around.
In this respect, I have had very good luck with ViperROM on the LTE. YMMV
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You would need to define your criteria for "best" first.
For me, "best" ROMs are ROMs that give me better speed, more features, and similar stability to stock. I also keep my devices for a pretty long time. So as they age I look to the community for support in keeping up to date. Hell, I still have a Tegra 2 tablet (Gtab) and my old Hero C laying around.
In this respect, I have had very good luck with ViperROM on the LTE. YMMV
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I know this is off topic but I have the Gtab too but sadly this happend... The touch screen doesn't work anymore but I still have it for the memory
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If u like stock look but souped up! Go with Meanbean.. If u want to custimize then go with viper4g..
What is considered the best Rom?
Ask the fanboys...
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I like Viper4G but JB Tranquility and Operations Jelly Bean are good, as well.
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I'm currently on CM10.1 and love it, but what are the absolute best ROMs for this phone?
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I used to love aosp but I use viper now lol
Granted it's desensed and I use nova launcher
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I used to love aosp but I use viper now lol
Granted it's desensed and I use nova launcher
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Can I use a cm10.1 like contact app? One that isn't htc sense contact?
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Can I use a cm10.1 like contact app? One that isn't htc sense contact?
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I believe the apk has to be modded to work with sense. I tried restoring some aosp system apps on a sense rom and just got FCs. Clean ROM used to have a bunch of modded apks but I think it's been abandoned...haven't seen any out there for 4.1.2 yet.
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I believe the apk has to be modded to work with sense. I tried restoring some aosp system apps on a sense rom and just got FCs. Clean ROM used to have a bunch of modded apks but I think it's been abandoned...haven't seen any out there for 4.1.2 yet.
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What makes them force close on different frameworks?
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Its more like what Rom is best for u.
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This is always going to be a question that never has the perfect answer. It depends on what you want/need. Go sense if you want the classic evo look and just want the basic experience its for people who don't care as much about making the device faster and better, they just want it to work and the only real reason they rooted it was to get rid of the bloatware. Keep it simple stupid. Honestly sense is fast, but aosp is is much more reliable and stable. Sense kernels have that small chance of corrupting your file system if and when your device crashes. It's a small chance but a chance none the less.
AOSP is by far the best for the ones who do want to unlock the devices full potential. AOSP (Android open source project) roms are more difficult to create and perfect but they give these devices more potential but its also up to the user to do his or her research. Don't flash or tweak even the slightest thing until you do your research and search xda and google. When you find a guide that of course isn't too old and you know you can trust it, read it over and over and bookmark it. Always search xda but never listen to the opinions of others until you test it yourself.
These rom creators work hard and they expect us to know what we are doing.
tl;dr - I will just say this, if your willing to spend more time to give you the best experience go AOSP. And if you go AOSP go CyanogenMod and nothing else. And for the kernel if you do wish to use a custom kernel I hightly recommend Komodo if you want an even better user experience.
Best rom is...
... the one that works best for you
FWIW. I love the ViperRom. Phone feels like it just "works" and, if I want, there are lots of customizations available.
That said, I just switched to HatkaLTE because I wanted to stay with a sense rom and it seems to me that the last update of ViperRom reintroduced the original rom's sensor problems on my phone. [I say seems because it's still not perfect, just better, on the HatkaLTE and maybe the hardware has developed a defect]. I can't say much about this rom yet because I haven't had it on my phone long enough and because I'm also playing around with different launchers at the same time.
Good luck!
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are these roms updated on 3.16?
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are these roms updated on 3.16?
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ViperROM is. Operation Jelly Bean and Tranquility ROM are not.
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What makes them force close on different frameworks?
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Square peg, meet round hole.
I say decks cm10.1 or the sense5 port.
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IDK, but I'm really excited to install the new VIPERROM
Very, very excited. Hopefully it (re)fixes the proximity sensor problem, but if not, I have the init file all ready to solve the problem myself!
I have to agree with many of the posts, it's more of a personal taste question. I've run almost every ROM at some point, and I love the speed of AOSP, but like the features of Sense. There are a few key features that you lose on AOSP. After a whole lot of flashing, I've settled on SuperJelly Bareback, it strips out all the bloat of Sense while retaining those key features, and is almost spot on with the speed of AOSP. It's my happy medium. Good luck and happy flashing.
If you dont need Bluetooth, Sense 5. Otherwise Viper or Super LTE.
I recently bought a Gs4 on verizon running the latest 4.3 mk2 software and I hate touchwiz. Its just so packed with useless stuff that makes the phone slow. Since I cannot install a custom recovery on this phone I was thinking of trading it for an lg g2 and wiping the os and installing kit kat on it from cyanogen mod. What do you guys think should I do the trade?
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I recently bought a Gs4 on verizon running the latest 4.3 mk2 software and I hate touchwiz. Its just so packed with useless stuff that makes the phone slow. Since I cannot install a custom recovery on this phone I was thinking of trading it for an lg g2 and wiping the os and installing kit kat on it from cyanogen mod. What do you guys think should I do the trade?
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You'll have to define "slow." My S4 on the stock unrooted ROM was not what I'd consider to be slow. Rooted on Hyperdrive, it is not slow. I had a Blackberry Storm. That was slow.
KitKat is scheduled to be released this month or next for this phone. I would imagine that our devs will have custom ROMS fairly quickly afterward, if there's not a leak released before.
You might be better posting your question in the G2 forum. You'll probably find more people there with experience on both phones.
There are a lot of nice ROMS for safestrap users... I'm on MK2 ..currently running foxhound diamond dogs and eclipse. Both are pretty close to a aosp experience ( I also despise touchwiz)
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There are a lot of nice ROMS for safestrap users... I'm on MK2 ..currently running foxhound diamond dogs and eclipse. Both are pretty close to a aosp experience ( I also despise touchwiz)
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I agree with charliepan69. I would safestrap flash a ROM before making the switch
I would keep my S4. LG sucks. The LG g2 looks nice but I'm sure there isn't much development for that device. Pretty soon I'm sure someone will figure out how to flash aosp roms. I remember running safestrap when I had the DROID RAZR and devs made aosp roms compatible with safestrap
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I would keep my S4. LG sucks. The LG g2 looks nice but I'm sure there isn't much development for that device. Pretty soon I'm sure someone will figure out how to flash aosp roms. I remember running safestrap when I had the DROID RAZR and devs made aosp roms compatible with safestrap
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I'm with you there... I had the RAZR too. I've thought about the g2 a few times as well and just couldn't do it. By the sounds of it kexec for SafeStrap may be close to coming out and that would change everything. There were a ton of aosp ROMs for the razr I'm sure the s4 will have even more. I couldn't wait myself that's why I just got rid of the mj7 s4.
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Touchwiz does suck
Just throw a different launcher on it. I'm running Apex pro. It's quick... usually have between 700 and 800 megs free memory. Not exactly what I'd call a slow phone. I looked at getting the G2 when I got this S4. Very happy with the choice.
Another good point. I use Nova on any an all ROMs I use. I'd say apex an Nova would be the two to choose from in my opinion
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Definitely safestrap it and stick with the S4 for now.....
S4 slow? You must've been using Nova, apex, or whatever launcher people use nowadays. My stock unrooted is screaming fast...
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S4 slow? You must've been using Nova, apex, or whatever launcher people use nowadays. My stock unrooted is screaming fast...
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Nova launcher flies. Faster than stock I think many would agree
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Nova launcher flies. Faster than stock I think many would agree
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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I do not experience that with nova. Although I'll agree stock launcher is faster just because it was optimized for the phone, especially with animations off, but nova is plenty fast and worth having real control over the lajncher
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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Well I really think it depends on the ROM... and the settings etc. As well.
I'm running Liquid Smooth with Nova right now. and I have no delay at all with touch response and it was so fast I ended up slowing things down a little so I could enjoy the animations from xuimod as well.
Like I said it depends if u ask me.
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You must have too much apps running, hold down on the home button for like 3 second and then let go. Close all of the apps you don't need by swiping them to the side. Then see how fast your s4 is. I had my s4 for at least 3 month now, still as fast as out the box (until i rooted and flashed it, now it's even faster with greenify).
A few weeks ago, my Nexus 5 got the OTA Lollipop 5.0 update. After rooting it using the WugFresh root tool kit, I had some time to mess around in it and it's not that big of an improvement over 4.4.x, IMHO. I am actually enjoying my 4.4.2 ZV6 with the xposed framework way more than the AOSP version of Lollipop. I think the much anticipated Lollipop has had way too much hype and the improvements generally serve Google and Service providers more than the end user. I'm content to wait till our developers get their hands on our official G3 release. Until then, it's all good.
After seeing this review:
http://youtu.be/-S_jlTfbwFk
and playing with rom deodexed zv6 4.4.2 I am not impressed with 5.0 either. I really like this zv6 update and all its features, plus I keep my root and bump. My xposed modules still work. I'm a happy camper. :thumbup:
ROM I flashed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56953010
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Once there's a complete, 100% working, stable Lollipop ROM for the LS990 I may try it, but at the moment I'm not really inclined to give up all the customization I've made to make MY G3 My OWN. A lot of things I've done just aren't going to work on 5.0 right now. Maybe never. Certainly not without root. 5.0 is just way more locked down than previous versions, greatly limiting the things apps can do.
And the OP is right, I think. A lot of the changes benefit the manufacturers, carriers, and corporate interests more than they do users like us.
Materialz. Nuff said.
The look isn't nearly enough to make up for the loss of functionality.
Even if I liked the look, which I don't. Dear God, some of the colors Google has put in there are just puke-inducing ugly.
I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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The look isn't nearly enough to make up for the loss of functionality.
Even if I liked the look, which I don't. Dear God, some of the colors Google has put in there are just puke-inducing ugly.
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I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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I agree. It looks like they really mailed it in. We can complain about the manufacturer overlays like LG Touchwiz, Sense etc., but without some touch up, it's unappealing. Unfortunately there's the bloatware from the carrier. Xposed and the customization modules, or custom. roms from our developers really give it some pop.
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I don't see nothing special about 5.0. Am guessing most of it is under the hood. I like the animations but the colors don't do it for me.
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I felt same after running it or preview in nexus 4 earlier this year. Or ending last year. Can't remember. But its the same ugly color. I don't like the white background. I actually think they are going back to cupcake. Lmao. But I too love the speed and animations. Material is awesome idea. But we have lg ..they did ok but I'm still either way going to need major theming. Lol
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