http://list.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=412947105 if any of you guys is interested in this kind of casing looks similar to the one for the iphone. Not sure whether they ship international across the globe.
Interesting, and not too pricey either. Wonder if its actually quality though.
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Interesting, and not too pricey either. Wonder if its actually quality though.
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according to what i've read is an exact OEM version from the iphone. was wondering too. guess i should buy and try it out soon.
Id be a little worried about a case like this. If anyone gets it please review it casue it is definitely intriguing. How would the capacitive buttons work though?
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according to what i've read is an exact OEM version from the iphone. was wondering too. guess i should buy and try it out soon.
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well I look forward to your review. I don't plan on dunking the guy in water, but it could come handy when I know I'll be in some harsher environments I.E. camping, skiing, etc.
edit: according to some ebay sellers, it's not waterproof. Just very water resistant, but would still serve my needs.
I really liked the concept, right up until I realized it looks like there is no way to remove the stylus, which I understand but not for me if thats the case.
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Id be a little worried about a case like this. If anyone gets it please review it casue it is definitely intriguing. How would the capacitive buttons work though?
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there's a rubber thingy on the capacitive button for you to press in the picture... i've ordered mine. will be back for reviews once i get my hands on it.
additional links for the case http://www.lovemeicase.com/pro.asp?id=38
Found a review for the s4 version, probably some similarities to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sADGf3LtAs
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Found a review for the s4 version, probably some similarities to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sADGf3LtAs
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yeah. it's the same brand as the one i posted
found it for $29 shipped on ebay so I will report back what I think once I get it
even if not water proof it might not be hard to "finish" the deal and make it actually waterproof. I wonder if we can get a IR remote to "control" the phone (IE turn screen on and off and start camera and start stop recording. ie the basics.
4k underwater should be neat!
Looking forward to your review of the case. I am really looking for a waterproof case and Lifeproof doesn't have any plans of making one. Let me know what you think. We can always use the camera underwater when you change the setting to use the Volume up to take a photo or start the recording for a movie.
I'd be interested in participating in a petition for a LifeProof case I'd pledge to purchase one for sure. Especially the Nuud one so that I can still feel my lovely TG protector
Please do post a review of this. One way to test the waterproofing is to fold up tissue paper or kleenex inside the assembled case and submerge it overnight. It's not a guarantee that it's solid, but it'd be some reassurance.
hmmm I was thinking then how do you turn it on and off you could always disable the lock screen all together (I think you can do that ???)
but if the camera does not stay loaded..... then you have to surface to do it since the touch screen won't work underwater
an IR remote simplifies things. because then we only need a water proof ir remote. we can then BUILD our own bullet proof 100% water proof cases no problem. since we won't have to interact and we can "BOLT" the phone into the case.
its one of the reasons I am excited about the IR blaster. my concern is that the IR blaster might be one way IE can transmit but not receive.
I wonder. will bluetooth work underwater if the two devices are "touching" each other?
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hmmm I was thinking then how do you turn it on and off you could always disable the lock screen all together (I think you can do that ???)
but if the camera does not stay loaded..... then you have to surface to do it since the touch screen won't work underwater
an IR remote simplifies things. because then we only need a water proof ir remote. we can then BUILD our own bullet proof 100% water proof cases no problem. since we won't have to interact and we can "BOLT" the phone into the case.
its one of the reasons I am excited about the IR blaster. my concern is that the IR blaster might be one way IE can transmit but not receive.
I wonder. will bluetooth work underwater if the two devices are "touching" each other?
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No way I would ever intentionally submerge my baby in water, but if one wanted to they could possibly set up a tasker profile: Context: camera on, Action: display timeout (whatever length you want) for example +other goodies: brightness etc., and do some button remapping i.e. triple click home/whatever (open camera app), volume up/down (record/take picture). Probably need to get rid of that time limit for 4k as well -- thread floating around here somewhere. Just some ideas. Would love to see some videos if you ever end up doing it.
I would rather say after reading reviews off other sites on google the case is more or less likely water resistant and there is too much opening on the case for it to be 100% waterproofing cases. Will update with pictures soon as i have just ordered mine recently.
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this case is NOT water proof. but I think I can MAKE it temporarily water proof. Fill in the mic holes plate that proximity sensor hole (and disable the proximity sensor) Fill in the speaker hole etc.. etc.. (use an ear piece)
go diving? NO but shove 12 inches under water to snap a pic or short video? maybe.
the point of external control is that it is then VERY easy to make a TRULY water proof case. think pelican box with a clear window for the screen and camera lens?
the MOMENT you need to access buttons you either need to use a weak flexible membrane OR you need to "compromise" the case and add water proof mechanical buttons.
eliminate ALL of that and suddenly interesting things are possible and at a price us SCHLEPS down here can afford !!!
have you SEEN how much money truly good quality water proof housings go for. $2500 for a good housing for my camera (good not the best just good!!)
if their were no buttons.... easy and cheap
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I wonder how these magnetic lens would work on the G1? Hope the magnet is not enough to mess with the compass.
http://usbfever.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=55_177
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I wonder how these magnetic lens would work on the G1? Hope the magnet is not enough to mess with the compass.
http://usbfever.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=55_177
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Since cases with tiny magnets seems to goof things up, I for one, am not willing to risk it. Nice idea though...
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That would be really cool!!! Order one and let us know if it works
Ordered these last week, still waiting for them to arrive. Planning to mount the magnet on some extra zagg shielding I have, so I can easily remove it if it turns out to mess with the compass or the lenses don't work well. Will post pics and a review when I've got them!
http://usbfever.com/member/37704/products/718_iPhone_3G_Telescope.jpg
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Are they serious? The size of that thing alone makes me think you'd be better off carrying a nice compact Point 'n' Shoot camera.
So, got my lenses today, and I really like them! One problem, I had ordered a telephoto, fisheye, and macro, and GOT two telephoto and a macro. I've emailed them about the problem, and will see what comes of it. I think these are going to be really fun to have on hand. They each came with a magnetic back cover, and a plastic snap on front cover. The back cover has a little cord loop, so it can be attached to a keychain, zipper pull, or whatever.
The lenses do make a clear difference in photographs. I've attached some pics I took with the macro lens. I'll upload telephoto pics tomorrow, as I'm at work and forgot the telephoto lens!
So, the question is now that you have your lens...Does it mess with the phones magnetic compass?
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The pic w/o macro looks better. Macro is reserved for extreme close-ups so maybe that has something to do with the quality of your photo. Does the snap-on case make any mention of shielding by the way?
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So I got a reply to my email about the order being shipped wrong in about 43 hours from sending the email, which is pretty good, I sent the email at 10am on Saturday, and got a reply at 5 am on Monday. They're say they're shipping me the missing lens, with no mention of charging me anything, or even of sending them back the second telephoto lens I got. So, I'm pretty impressed by that, and if they do manage to get it right the second time, I'll be quite happy with the purchase and the customer service experience. Also, each lens came with two of the little metal rings you stick on whatever you want to use the lens with, which I liked. It means I can have my cell phone, webcam, and partner's cell phone all set up to use the lenses, and still have 4 rings left over for use on future items. I also got a cradle with second battery slot, and a spare battery from USBFever, and am very happy with that as well. I ordered on the 7th, and my order arrived from Hong Kong on the 17th. And as a bonus, my order arrived as a brown paper package tied up with string, prompting my roommate who brought the package in, myself, and my partner to all start singing These Are A Few of My Favorite Things.
Gorguts said:
The pic w/o macro looks better. Macro is reserved for extreme close-ups so maybe that has something to do with the quality of your photo. Does the snap-on case make any mention of shielding by the way?
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Turns out, that wasn't the macro lens, it was the wide angle lens. One lens does both, it unscrews for macro. The macro is great, it lets you do insane closeups that the camera by itself won't even focus for. I can't do a comparison shot for the camera with and without the macro, cos without the macro, the camera won't focus at such close range! Attached the various test shots, all properly labeled this time, plus shots of the macro/wide angle lens assembled and apart. The telephoto, regular, and wide angle were all taken from the same distance/position (well, I might have moved a tiny bit switching out the lenses, but close enough!).
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So, the question is now that you have your lens...Does it mess with the phones magnetic compass?
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It does seem to mess with the compass, yeah, but only when the lens is actually on. There's a little metal ring with a sticky backing that you put on the phone to stick the lens to, and the little metal ring by itself does NOT mess with the compass. So, the compass is only messed with when the lens is actually on. I consider this to be acceptable, if I need to use the compass, I just take the lens off and drop it into my pocket or backpack.
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It does seem to mess with the compass, yeah, but only when the lens is actually on. There's a little metal ring with a sticky backing that you put on the phone to stick the lens to, and the little metal ring by itself does NOT mess with the compass. So, the compass is only messed with when the lens is actually on. I consider this to be acceptable, if I need to use the compass, I just take the lens off and drop it into my pocket or backpack.
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Only issue I see with that then is if the photo gps data relies on magnetic compass for tagging info. Haven't looked at the tag on the photos if it records a magnetic facing or not. Otherwise if no permanent compass problems, guess I am ordering some.
Ok, the fisheye lens arrived today. My overall experience with usbfever was definitely a positive one. Yeah, they made a mistake in the initial order, shipping me two telephoto lenses and no fisheye lens, but they were quick to rectify the problem. I had a reply to my email about the problem quickly, and the postmark on the replacement lens indicates it was shipped the day they replied to my email about the problem, and without charging me so much as an extra penny! They didn't even ask for the extra telephoto lens back! I'd call that top notch customer service. I've attached a couple pictures, one taken with the fisheye lens, the same shot taken just normally, and a picture of all three lenses (with a usb cable shown for sizing and cos it happened to be right there). It's a bit dark cos of the lighting in the room the pics were taken in.
be VERY VERY careful with magnets, they can permenantly **** up compasses with ease. you might not notice anything now, but repeted exposure WILL do damage in the long run.
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repeted exposure WILL do damage in the long run.
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I'm not seeing anything on google to support this, and don't remember any such info from various how magnets/compasses work lessons in school or scouting. (Tho it has been a while, so maybe I'm forgetting.)
I do remember being told in scouts that a quick and easy way to calibrate a misaligned compass was to run a strong magnet around it in a full circle, clockwise&counterclockwise. This was supposed to properly magnetize the compass and allow the compass to align to the earth's magnetic fields to an acceptable accurate degree for general navigation.
i didn't know you could re-calibrate a compass, thats handy to know. but i know for a fact a magnet can pretty much break a compass, i've done it before, but if it can be re-alligned i guess theres not much to worry about.
just out of curiosity, what kind of compass does the G1 use?
G1 Phone Telescope
i was just browsing a site full of electronics and gadgets and what not and came across this:
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03926&cat_id=1180&dept_id=017
the images of it say one thing but the quality of the shown pictures taken with the telescope is pretty nice... how real they are is another question... what do you guys think?
i know if i saw some dude on the street with a scope like that on his G1, i would think cia or something. and i can get it for $17? sweet! but i will wait for reviews. lol.
I saw those on ebay for under $10. My guess is they are about the same quality at a $10 kids toy microscope.. all plastic with junk plastic lenses.. but who wants to carry one of those around? Just set a few feet closer and take the picture.
Rick
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I saw those on ebay for under $10. My guess is they are about the same quality at a $10 kids toy microscope.. all plastic with junk plastic lenses.. but who wants to carry one of those around? Just set a few feet closer and take the picture.
Rick
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lol hells yea dude. reminds me of the cheap telescope's you'd find in a happy meal back in the day when disney didnt own happy meals lol
I found one on e-bay for $13 shipped. I'm a photo nerd and I like toy cameras... so I'm gonna take the plunge.
I know this sounds strange, but I'd like a back cover for my G1 without the hole for the camera lens.
Does such an abomination even exist ready-made?
i dont know where you could get one. but why do you want one?
Camera phones not allowed where I work.
I recommend
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103347
^^^lmao..but on the real, id use some bondo or something like that to fill in the hole, sand it down and paint to match the plastic. I doubt there's much of a market for what your looking for.
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I recommend
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103347
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Well obviously if I thought that would be allowed through I'd have taped over the camera long ago >.>
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^^^lmao..but on the real, id use some bondo or something like that to fill in the hole, sand it down and paint to match the plastic. I doubt there's much of a market for what your looking for.
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Yeah, thought I might have to do that "/ I suppose I'll have to buy a new cover to do it on then. The plastic at the hole should be removable right?
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Well obviously if I thought that would be allowed through I'd have taped over the camera long ago >.>
Yeah, thought I might have to do that "/ I suppose I'll have to buy a new cover to do it on then. The plastic at the hole should be removable right?
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why no camera phones?
Do you work for apple or something where they get so uptight about things getting leaked?
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Do you work for apple or something where they get so uptight about things getting leaked?
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There's a chance he may work at one of these places:
List of companies of Singapore
Curious, aren't all of you
I suppose "work" might have been not the best choice of word. No, I don't work at anywhere remotely resembling apple. In singapore we have... conscription
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Curious, aren't all of you
I suppose "work" might have been not the best choice of word. No, I don't work at anywhere remotely resembling apple. In singapore we have... conscription
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u work with money , so that could be a payroll department , financial institution or bank , or like me collection department
maek_it_happen said:
u work with money , so that could be a payroll department , financial institution or bank , or like me collection department
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Conscription, meaning he probably works for the military.
Hey I would also like to have a backcover for Blackstone with out a camera hole.. heard about non camera versions of phones in US not sure.. I work for a MNC IT company in India as a Oracle DBA so camera mobiles are not allowed in my company.
Please help me if you have any idea on this.
Thanks
Shriram
Why not just pop open the phone and remove the camera?
The bondo idea was the best, you could buy a new phone cover, chop out a section of the old one and use bondo to secure it, sand it down and it should look stock.
JackD3ath said:
Why not just pop open the phone and remove the camera?
The bondo idea was the best, you could buy a new phone cover, chop out a section of the old one and use bondo to secure it, sand it down and it should look stock.
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yeah I'd do that and just switch covers when you want
So in this area, you cannot carry a camera, but you can carry a sound recorder and 2-way communication device? Sounds odd.
I mounted a thin metal plate to the whole flat section of the back of my G1 so I could stick it to a large neo magnet that is glued to the dash in my truck. I don't care about the compass not working. Plus, I have tested it after about 6 months. If I put a regular back on it the compass still works great. No lasting effects.
I used the side of an old computer case. Cut out the shape I needed. I cut out a hole for the camera and speaker but you could just cover the camera and leave the speaker free. After I got everything smooth, I gave the whole thing a brushing with 150 grit sand paper in a uniform direction. Then I put it on my kitchen stove top on high for about 5 min to blue the metal. It gives it a great finish that resists rusting and isn't sticky or easily scratched like paint.
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I mounted a thin metal plate to the whole flat section of the back of my G1 so I could stick it to a large neo magnet that is glued to the dash in my truck. I don't care about the compass not working. Plus, I have tested it after about 6 months. If I put a regular back on it the compass still works great. No lasting effects.
I used the side of an old computer case. Cut out the shape I needed. I cut out a hole for the camera and speaker but you could just cover the camera and leave the speaker free. After I got everything smooth, I gave the whole thing a brushing with 150 grit sand paper in a uniform direction. Then I put it on my kitchen stove top on high for about 5 min to blue the metal. It gives it a great finish that resists rusting and isn't sticky or easily scratched like paint.
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I am amazed that sticking your phone to a big-ass magnet all day has no lasting effects..
None what so ever. GPS works great. Accelerometer works great. Doesn't affect storage or memory. Again, I took the back cover off after about 6 mo. Compass works fine. Must be because it's solid state.
wonder if this guy ever figured it out?
very easy way would be to peel the piece of glass off the back of the phone cover and replace it with a piece of sheetmetal so they know there isnt a hole in it. you can get scraps from pretty much anywhere and shape them with a dremel...
So, as we all know the Omate TrueSmart is as waterproof as a leaky boat, or perhaps a sponge.
However, I don't think there are any other Horologists on the forum at the moment. ( wikipedia horologist http:// en.wikipedia.org /wiki/horologist ).
After looking at the "seals" on the case buttons, and the laughable o-ring that Umeox/Omate have chosen to use on the back, along with the piece of silicone flap that they are using to seal the SIM card... I have to say that expecting it to be water resistant to any degree is a bit laughable.
So, I have a solution, the same one used by Rolex, Omega, Breitling, Citizen, Seiko, etc.. etc...
* Liquid silicone sealant gel on the SIM card seal and flap.
* Replace the silicone o-rings for the watch back with a thin silicone gasket, with more sealant gel
* Retrofit and replace the button seals, or create black silicone button covers that better seal them
I'm going to have to look at the speaker port on the watchband. I don't know if there is a simple solution there to make it compliant for 1 meter depth without severely affecting the quality of the sound output from that port. A brief examination makes it seem that the port -might- be able to take IP67 conditions .. but without reinforcement, I doubt it could take the forces involved in a swim, waves, wakes, spas.
Still, I think I can put together a kit, and instructions that careful and diligent people could use to retrofit the TrueSmart to make it far more waterproof than the manufacturer does. The kit would cost between $15 and $25 US, mostly to cover the cost of making custom molds for the silicone gaskets. ( There is a local TechShop here in Austin, and I have a CNC mill to make the aluminum molds, and all the design experience and software I need. Even so, a small super-accurate mold is a couple hundred dollars worth of materials and work. )
If there is enough interest evidenced here on a poll, I'll make the kit.
Sincerely,
Martin Bogomolni
Maker, Horologist, Coder, and Machinist
Need to redesign the case so that the speaker is sealed as well.
I've read that the O-rings are different among different runs. If the shape of the part of the case they fit against is different as well, wouldn't that make this effort require potentially as many different molds as the number of firmwares Loki has been trying to contend with? Or is it just the ring that's been different?
The case design is different. There's at least two maybe three.
Then that means I'll need to make two or three variants of the kit. This will also require some externally-visible way to identify the differences between various batches of TrueSmart watches.
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The case design is different. There's at least two maybe three.
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I think, just an opinion, that if the gasket between the body and the back cover has holes for the screws to pass through it like on my Last of the Kickstarter Dev Eds, 1/8/1900, delivered first of the USA group in early Feb, then that gasket works if properly placed and screwed together. The housing on these is flat, without raised screw hole posts and no groove.
I think the main problem you are going to need to overcome is the buttons and the mic pinhole leaking.
The speaker, if it doesn't mind getting wet itself, provides no entry path into the body if the wire set going in has been properly sealed inside (white sealant on mine, I think). Water could destroy the speaker, OK maybe, but not the watch unless it can follow the speaker connections back up into the body. Where the band halves meet the body on both sides there is a hole through the body to let the cables through, sealed inside with some white stuff. Maybe sealed...
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The speaker is inside the case (under the square "bump" in the backplate) and uses nothing more than double sided tape. It is partly held into place by the plastic insert.
What is that open slot for then, in the band on the speaker side ?
Where the sound comes out ?
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Yep. (see attached image)
Yes I was also curious about how the waterproofness of the speaker and microphone port would be approached. But I'm definitely down for one of these.
For what it's worth, I've submerged (no more than 2ft) my NA 1gb/8gb OTS and used it in the shower after having opened the bottom. During the first week I was constantly checking inside the case for internal moisture and didn't see any. It's been a while, but I remember thinking the physical buttons looked like they would let water in if used while underwater, but that didn't seem to happen.
for giggles, my omate arrived with bad software, and only pulling the battery would fix it. I had first tried letting the battery die out but the vcom drivers didn't fully take until i pulled the battery, so the water seal warranty was moot from early on. I don't remember how long I waited, but I sent the following screen to cecilia and a few other mailboxes at omate for help with no response (surprise!) before pulling the battery and stepping through the restore guides.
Looking back, I can't even imagine how the bootloader got to be so trashed! Volume up and down you say?
I am in. Also shared on G+ and KS comments the poll, good luck!
Yep
I'm definitely in support of this. I created a kayaking app that is pretty useless with the watch the way it is... having this kit out there would be great.
Hi. I am a watchmaker (horlogist?) from Germany and its my daily job to make watches watertight.
I have access to professional measuring devices for checking the watches if they are sealed. It is testet via air pressure, no water. The watchcase deformation is measured by fine sensors and if it is deforming in the given parameters then the device says proof or leak. There are ranges from -0,8 Bar to +20 Bar.
Further tests to locate the leak are made with water tests.
I havent received my pre ordered true smart yet (but I own a simvalley AW-414.go). Before I would test the true smart I would like to know how much pressure it could take before the screen brakes.
After the long wait and seeing this IPx7 drama unfold, I decided to just flip my TrueSmart on delivery - and flog it on eBay/Amazon without ever opening the box. Depending on the delivery timeline and other factors (such as the impending release of the Polar V800 and Garmin fenix 2) I may reconsider that strategy if this "aftermarket waterproofing" plan gains momentum.
I checked the option to be willing to pay for professional install (having waited this long - and the fact that the V800 is another $100 more expensive than the TrueSmart) but I'm more than happy to do the install myself if the kit is solid. From what I gather in the initial post, it's going to be a far sight better than the factory seal. So, if I keep my TrueSmart I'd be in for either the home install or the pro install option.
FWIW - I could care less about using this phone in **** Tracy mode [trademark pending]. For my money, stuff a grommet in the ports and glue/seal them in place - my goal is to use the device for training.
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HThe watchcase deformation is measured by fine sensors and if it is deforming in the given parameters then the device says proof or leak. There are ranges from -0,8 Bar to +20 Bar.
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In a pressurized submersion test it will fill with water before anything else. The case was never tested beyond about 0.015 Bar and even then it wasn't tested properly (bare case, no buttons or straps and all the ports sealed in 15cm of water).
Them doing something as simple as not putting in the speaker right or the double sided tape not seal correctly on the speaker will negate any water resistance it may have had.
Had any luck looking into this?
I would definitely be interested in a kit to improve waterproofing...
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Me too ! I don't see a survey, maybe Tapatalk does not support surveys ?
I bought a NeverWet spray set from HomeDePot recently. They show how to treat an iPhone 5 by removing the back cover and spraying inside. I don't have an iPhone or I might try it. Wouldn't care...the stuff worked pretty good on my shoes though.
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In the meantime...
Hi horologists,
I was wondering: is there anything a layman could do in the meantime to, at least, improve the water sealing on the TrueSmart? I'm not interested in submerging it or taking a shower; I just don't want to be afraid that my watch will short if I get stuck in rain and put it in my pocket.
One of the things I obviously don't want to be doing is just smearing vaseline all over it as that'll ruin the silicone components, correct? I am currently purchasing silicone grease (dielectric so non-conductive) to improve the seals on the bottom and around the sim card case. What should I do about the buttons? Can I put more grease around their edges? Would vaseline be apprpriate there, since it's coming in contact with my skin and there seems to be no silicone gaskets? What's the best quick fix for buttons?
Sorry if these questions are stupid but... this is admittedly coming from a place of utter ignorance. : )
Take care and thanks very much.
the official oneplus 5 screen protector is about 2mm too small and doesn't fix the phone all the way around. It's supposed to be "3D" so it would hug the screen all the way around, but ends up pushing up on all sides because of the shape of it causing bubbles. I've attached several pictures showing that the application of it is perfectly centered in the pictures of the home and ear speakers. there's also a black border all around the screen protector on all the non-screen parts which ens up actually cutting off a few pixels around the entire screen..... you can see it completely cuts off a '0' in the recorder app, and the app drawer's scroll bar is almost completely cut off as well....
I've contacted OnePlus support and they declined my rma claim stating the below:
Hello ___,
Thank you for contacting OnePlus. My name is Sydney and I am a Repair, Replacement and Return Specialist and we have received the RMA you had created for replacement.
Thank you for providing additional details about the issue for more context. After going thoroughly with the pictures provided, the issue with your screen protector may be the result of how it was applied. For this reason, this currently falls outside of our ability to process a return replacement. With this in mind, I have gone ahead and canceled your RMA.
Here are the steps on how you can apply a screen protector just click on this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDqHjCWLLc
Please be advised that as per policy, we may not process returns/replacement in the event of "Defects or damages caused by misuse, neglect, physical damage, tampering, incorrect adjustment, normal wear, and tear or incorrect installation after purchase."
You may refer to our website's Privacy and Legal page under Return / Replacement @ https://oneplus.net/privacy-and-legal
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Best Regards,
Sydney
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which is laughable.... not just for the fact that they refused to acknowledge the issue, but the video is really low quality and is for applying a plastic screen protector to the oneplus one........ gee thanks support...
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the official oneplus 5 screen protector is about 2mm too small and doesn't fix the phone all the way around. It's supposed to be "3D" so it would hug the screen all the way around, but ends up pushing up on all sides because of the shape of it causing bubbles. I've attached several pictures showing that the application of it is perfectly centered in the pictures of the home and ear speakers. there's also a black border all around the screen protector on all the non-screen parts which ens up actually cutting off a few pixels around the entire screen..... you can see it completely cuts off a '0' in the recorder app, and the app drawer's scroll bar is almost completely cut off as well....
I've contacted OnePlus support and they declined my rma claim stating the below:
which is laughable.... not just for the fact that they refused to acknowledge the issue, but the video is really low quality and is for applying a plastic screen protector to the oneplus one........ gee thanks support...
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Thanks for the heads-up man! I was about to order it.
I installed mine yesterday. I also have the black parts cutting off the pixels on the sides..
I ordered a Nillkin today, hoping it will fit better.
Totally agree. Watched this video by @niijonodhg , saw it in his thread and it turned me off it totally! £18 for that crap? Bit disgraceful tbh. Purchased this Orzly one instead. Had it for my op3, and another video by the same guy said it was better then last year and he preferred it then the 3d glass one!
This was already known about and was shown in the video below...
It showed similar problems to their previous ones, namely when you're on the bootloader screen the protector cuts off some of the text because it's protruding onto the actual display area. He also showed the same problem as you @Nomelas, whereby the edges were not adhering properly.
I've got the Orzly protector (none of the cases I've ordered have arrived yet sadly) and it seems great (it does show fingerprints a little and there's a tiny bit of rainbowing), it's 2.5D rather than 3D, it also has a black border on it but it doesn't protrude onto the screen like the official one it also seems to be the favoured protector on the forums at the moment, here's a review of that one.
@niijonodhg (aka Absolutely Savage on YouTube) made these and is apparently doing a series of reviews, all very helpful
Here's the obligatory Orzly official application and test video:
They also show how well it works with a couple of the official cases.
I bought the original tgsp from OP.
I would not recommend that one.
Hard to apply without air on the sides/corners.(No dust)
And covers way too much of the screen!
Still trying to get my money back. As it is way too much for such a bad design.
If I keep the phone I will try to find a good replacement.
I honesly not sure why they are still selling them. Like most people in this thread already say. Orzly's TGSP does a much better job.
I have used same protector on OP3T and already installed to OP5 also.
Cutting couple pixels is said on product information. Im assuming you all readed it before ordering so you should know that. Also i dont have any bubbles, nice and clean installation without any issues so bubbles are user installation fault.
Comparing this to Orzly:
OP:
+ Adhesive on full screen part: its harder to install but really clear visiblity on screen, no gap between tgsp and screen and no oil slicks.
+ Really great oleophotic coating
+- Cutting off less than mm from both sides of screen. Its told on Oneplus website whem ordering (product information). Its so small that it dont bother me almost at all.
Orzly:
+ Dont cut as much as OP's own.
- Glue/adhesive only on edges which will cause small gap between screen and tgsp=not so clear visiblity as it would be if adhesive would been full screen. Also big possiblity for oil slicks. Also possiblity to pull of easier.
- Bad oleophotic coating
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I got it in the bundle with the case, ear buds and 150mm extra dash cable (but no extra adapter....) and while it was basically free, I'm still pissed at the false advertising.... why would they sell a defective product? its a clear rip off. They probably made them all and by then it was too late so now they're trying to get rid of them, greasy imo.....
If it wasn't for this one (major) flaw, I'd say it would have been an amazing screen protector. I'll probably still use it until it scratches or breaks then get that orzly one.
EDIT: also, I'm pretty positive that disclaimer was NOT there when I ordered my phone on the 20th:
Disclaimer
To ensure the curved screen protector offers optimal protection while maintaining the sleek look of the OnePlus 5, the colored border extends over the edges of the display by approximately 0.9 mm.
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Nomelas said:
I got it in the bundle with the case, ear buds and 150mm extra dash cable (but no extra adapter....) and while it was basically free, I'm still pissed at the false advertising.... why would they sell a defective product? its a clear rip off. They probably made them all and by then it was too late so now they're trying to get rid of them, greasy imo.....
If it wasn't for this one (major) flaw, I'd say it would have been an amazing screen protector. I'll probably still use it until it scratches or breaks then get that orzly one.
EDIT: also, I'm pretty positive that disclaimer was NOT there when I ordered my phone on the 20th:
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Disclaimer was there same time when sales started. How i know? I ordered exactly same package than you!
Tell me how it's defective product? Because you messed up installation and got bubbles? That dont make product defective. Cut off is intentional, otherwise they wouldnt manage to do full adhesive, only side ones which is bad.
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Disclaimer was there same time when sales started. How i know? I ordered exactly same package than you!
Tell me how it's defective product? Because you messed up installation and got bubbles? That dont make product defective. Cut off is intentional, otherwise they wouldnt manage to do full adhesive, only side ones which is bad.
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yeah I guess I lack the Doctor Strange ability to bend reality... my bad.
On another note, it's funny how a 3rd party can make a better fitting screen protector. I'll definitely be getting the Orzly.
And for the price, you'd think OnePlus would put a bit more R&D into it, like using a ruler.
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yeah I guess I lack the Doctor Strange ability to bend reality... my bad.
On another note, it's funny how a 3rd party can make a better fitting screen protector. I'll definitely be getting the Orzly.
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Funny how you are crying how defective product is and when you are asked what makes product defective you answer with some stupid comments. For me it looks now like its defective because you messed installation and you didnt read disclaimer when you ordered.
You are free to buy what ever you want. My opinion is Orzly isnt better that OP's own, your opinion is that it is better and im fine with that.
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Funny how you are crying how defective product is and when you are asked what makes product defective you answer with some stupid comments. For me it looks now like its defective because you messed installation and you didnt read disclaimer when you ordered.
You are free to buy what ever you want. My opinion is Orzly isnt better that OP's own, your opinion is that it is better and im fine with that.
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that, or watch the videos posted in this thread. I'll link them again in case you missed them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0hCirgar1g & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrHEIZ1alw
you can even see in this video that he has the EXACT same bubbles on the right side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HGNn5lhCy8
Also, the disclaimer is a cop out for the design flaw fyi.
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that, or watch the videos posted in this thread. I'll link them again in case you missed them:
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you can even see in this video that he has the EXACT same bubbles on the right side:
Also, the disclaimer is a cop out for the design flaw fyi.
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I have seen all of videos but still dont see anything which would show about defective product. Maybe your piece was. Mine is just perfect without any bubbles.
It isnt design flaw, it was meaned to be like that because you wouldnt get full adhesive without it. It they would leave that area clear it would been look ugly because of halo and people would start cry. They choosed to not use "glue on sides" method as they even know that method is bad and screen wouldnt be as clear as without protector or with full adhesive screen protectors.
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I have seen all of videos but still dont see anything which would show about defective product. Maybe your piece was. Mine is just perfect without any bubbles.
It isnt design flaw, it was meaned to be like that because you wouldnt get full adhesive without it. It they would leave that area clear it would been look ugly because of halo and people would start cry. They choosed to not use "glue on sides" method as they even know that method is bad and screen wouldnt be as clear as without protector or with full adhesive screen protectors.
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translation: design FLAW - who would willingly want something that limits the use of any parts of their screen? think about it for a second.
Nomelas said:
translation: design FLAW - who would willingly want something that limits the use of any parts of their screen? think about it for a second.
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Well if i would need to choose between these:
1. Full adhesive: Drawback it will cut off your screen about 0,3mm per side but you have really clear view of your screen and no gap.
2. Side glues: No screen cut off, but gap between screen snd tgsp and because of that not that clear view either.
I would definetely choose option 1. They didnt have options if they wanted full adhesive.
Cut-off is so small that it wont even bother me and many other user as almost all apps has gapps on side before real content shows. Ofcourse i would like without cut-off but it dont bother me and i still prefer OP's official because of full adhesive and best oleophotic coating i have seen.
BTW, Orzly for OP3/3T had cut-off too. It was only like 0.1mm from both sides but it still was cut-off. And im almost sure they still have it, especially when OP5 is littlebit smaller than 3T was.
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zige said:
Well if i would need to choose between these:
1. Full adhesive: Drawback it will cut off your screen about 0,3mm per side but you have really clear view of your screen and no gap.
2. Side glues: No screen cut off, but gap between screen snd tgsp and because of that not that clear view either.
I would definetely choose option 1. They didnt have options if they wanted full adhesive.
Cut-off is so small that it wont even bother me and many other user as almost all apps has gapps on side before real content shows. Ofcourse i would like without cut-off but it dont bother me and i still prefer OP's official because of full adhesive and best oleophotic coating i have seen.
BTW, Orzly for OP3/3T had cut-off too. It was only like 0.1mm from both sides but it still was cut-off. And im almost sure they still have it, especially when OP5 is littlebit smaller than 3T was.
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It's more like 0.9mm on EACH side which is very significant actually if you consider 401 ppi on the screen meaning you get almost 30 pixels cut off from each line from left to right. Factor in the height of 1920 pixels you lose 57,600 total pixels on your phone. Now, take into account there's a total of 2,073,600 pixels on the screen, you actually lose close to 3% of your total screen behind unnecessary screen protector bezels.
Hell, I'd gladly take 0.1mm over 0.9mm
Fought with oneplus and they now approved my claim for a replacement. Seems they at least acknowledge the issue but I doubt a replacement will solve anything. We'll see when I get it I guess.
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Fought with oneplus and they now approved my claim for a replacement. Seems they at least acknowledge the issue but I doubt a replacement will solve anything. We'll see when I get it I guess.
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good for you. I am in the process of fighting with them too because after my flawless installation, there began to accumulate dust under where the proximity sensor is. They told me its my fault because there was dust underneath before i installed it. wtf.
i have never dealt with such inept customer "support" I tweeted, chatted, emailed and called them today and supposedly a supervisor is reviewing my claim.
I have not taken it off yet, because despite its flaws, it adheres to (almost) the whole screen, and while i have orzly waiting, i cant stand the rainbow oil slick due to the lack of complete adhesive.
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good for you. I am in the process of fighting with them too because after my flawless installation, there began to accumulate dust under where the proximity sensor is. They told me its my fault because there was dust underneath before i installed it. wtf.
i have never dealt with such inept customer "support" I tweeted, chatted, emailed and called them today and supposedly a supervisor is reviewing my claim.
I have not taken it off yet, because despite its flaws, it adheres to (almost) the whole screen, and while i have orzly waiting, i cant stand the rainbow oil slick due to the lack of complete adhesive.
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That also is happening to me. I'm going to hold onto the replacement and I bought the orzly to try out. We'll see which is better. Either way I'll have one extra of each after replacing this one.
This case looks promising, but I don't know. It has no reviews anywhere, and was only featured for an old Samsung s6. If anyone on here has it or wants to try it let me know. It comes with glass screen protector, and it's apparently all screwed in. The pricetag is also sort of hefty so idk.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IMATCH-Alu...hash=item2870b06b48:m:mzVBS8NkURWPndburZIVdig
Damn thing is a tank
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Id be worried about cell reception with all that aluminum. If you get it be sure to do a before and after signal test for us.
Learned my lesson with aluminum cases, it ALWAYS affects signal.
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This case looks promising, but I don't know. It has no reviews anywhere, and was only featured for an old Samsung s6. If anyone on here has it or wants to try it let me know. It comes with glass screen protector, and it's apparently all screwed in. The pricetag is also sort of hefty so idk.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IMATCH-Alu...hash=item2870b06b48:m:mzVBS8NkURWPndburZIVdig
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I'm actually sending mine back this week. It's just way too impractical. The screen protector it comes with is very cheap so I didn't bother. It's also one of those cases that covers the bottom speaker and routes it to fire forward. I don't like that. You have to unscrew everything just to put the phone in and out and the metal frame, the way it rests on the phone, it doesn't give me a lot of confidence. In fact, I'm afraid it could help put enough pressure on the display to crack it with the way it's designed. Maybe I'm being too paranoid but it's not worth the risk, IMO.
Also, the little pin/lever thing on the side that's meant to move your volume slider? It doesn't work. I have to use two fingers to move both ends at the same time but it doesn't move the slider. Only the plastic pins move. So forget about being able to adjust the volume slider above the power button.
The case in general is just too bulky. I'm a pretty big guy and this case still feels too bulky and awkward to hold. It reminds me of the early days of Otterbox cases when they wanted to promote this "tank" protection-level mentality but today as you can see they've slimmed down and become more practical.
They're keeping about $7 for returning it, regardless of Prime or what return method you choose. FYI.