Back cover without camera hole - G1 Accessories

I know this sounds strange, but I'd like a back cover for my G1 without the hole for the camera lens.
Does such an abomination even exist ready-made?

i dont know where you could get one. but why do you want one?

Camera phones not allowed where I work.

I recommend
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103347

^^^lmao..but on the real, id use some bondo or something like that to fill in the hole, sand it down and paint to match the plastic. I doubt there's much of a market for what your looking for.

Sleeepy2 said:
I recommend
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103347
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Well obviously if I thought that would be allowed through I'd have taped over the camera long ago >.>
phatmanxxl said:
^^^lmao..but on the real, id use some bondo or something like that to fill in the hole, sand it down and paint to match the plastic. I doubt there's much of a market for what your looking for.
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Yeah, thought I might have to do that "/ I suppose I'll have to buy a new cover to do it on then. The plastic at the hole should be removable right?

vincom2 said:
Well obviously if I thought that would be allowed through I'd have taped over the camera long ago >.>
Yeah, thought I might have to do that "/ I suppose I'll have to buy a new cover to do it on then. The plastic at the hole should be removable right?
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why no camera phones?

Do you work for apple or something where they get so uptight about things getting leaked?

philosophics said:
Do you work for apple or something where they get so uptight about things getting leaked?
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There's a chance he may work at one of these places:
List of companies of Singapore

Curious, aren't all of you
I suppose "work" might have been not the best choice of word. No, I don't work at anywhere remotely resembling apple. In singapore we have... conscription

vincom2 said:
Curious, aren't all of you
I suppose "work" might have been not the best choice of word. No, I don't work at anywhere remotely resembling apple. In singapore we have... conscription
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u work with money , so that could be a payroll department , financial institution or bank , or like me collection department

maek_it_happen said:
u work with money , so that could be a payroll department , financial institution or bank , or like me collection department
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Conscription, meaning he probably works for the military.

Hey I would also like to have a backcover for Blackstone with out a camera hole.. heard about non camera versions of phones in US not sure.. I work for a MNC IT company in India as a Oracle DBA so camera mobiles are not allowed in my company.
Please help me if you have any idea on this.
Thanks
Shriram

Why not just pop open the phone and remove the camera?
The bondo idea was the best, you could buy a new phone cover, chop out a section of the old one and use bondo to secure it, sand it down and it should look stock.

JackD3ath said:
Why not just pop open the phone and remove the camera?
The bondo idea was the best, you could buy a new phone cover, chop out a section of the old one and use bondo to secure it, sand it down and it should look stock.
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yeah I'd do that and just switch covers when you want

So in this area, you cannot carry a camera, but you can carry a sound recorder and 2-way communication device? Sounds odd.

I mounted a thin metal plate to the whole flat section of the back of my G1 so I could stick it to a large neo magnet that is glued to the dash in my truck. I don't care about the compass not working. Plus, I have tested it after about 6 months. If I put a regular back on it the compass still works great. No lasting effects.
I used the side of an old computer case. Cut out the shape I needed. I cut out a hole for the camera and speaker but you could just cover the camera and leave the speaker free. After I got everything smooth, I gave the whole thing a brushing with 150 grit sand paper in a uniform direction. Then I put it on my kitchen stove top on high for about 5 min to blue the metal. It gives it a great finish that resists rusting and isn't sticky or easily scratched like paint.

mr.incredible said:
I mounted a thin metal plate to the whole flat section of the back of my G1 so I could stick it to a large neo magnet that is glued to the dash in my truck. I don't care about the compass not working. Plus, I have tested it after about 6 months. If I put a regular back on it the compass still works great. No lasting effects.
I used the side of an old computer case. Cut out the shape I needed. I cut out a hole for the camera and speaker but you could just cover the camera and leave the speaker free. After I got everything smooth, I gave the whole thing a brushing with 150 grit sand paper in a uniform direction. Then I put it on my kitchen stove top on high for about 5 min to blue the metal. It gives it a great finish that resists rusting and isn't sticky or easily scratched like paint.
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I am amazed that sticking your phone to a big-ass magnet all day has no lasting effects..

None what so ever. GPS works great. Accelerometer works great. Doesn't affect storage or memory. Again, I took the back cover off after about 6 mo. Compass works fine. Must be because it's solid state.

wonder if this guy ever figured it out?
very easy way would be to peel the piece of glass off the back of the phone cover and replace it with a piece of sheetmetal so they know there isnt a hole in it. you can get scraps from pretty much anywhere and shape them with a dremel...

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Tilt 2 Strap/charm holder hole help

Ok so on the tilt 2 it has a strap/charm hole to put well a strap or charm on ur phone, and i used it alot! But recently the little plastic piece in the hole that holds the charm/strap snapped off on mine, Does anyone have any good suggestions on what I could do, I'm rather clumsy so a strap is rather needed
Where on your Tilt2 do you have such a hole? Mine does not.
redpoint73 said:
Where on your Tilt2 do you have such a hole? Mine does not.
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Its on the back at the bottom center, right above the charging port, love the icon btw
Right here
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Right here
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that is so obvious is not for a strap!, the only thing i can come up with is that is for some kind attachment whole for like an accesory or maybe a craddle, but definetly not a strap, i dont think, lol
the phone is too heavy and you prob snapped the plastic cover off a lot too didnt you?
but i would love to really find out trully what kinda accesory would attached to it
marmotabassriderx said:
that is so obvious is not for a strap!, the only thing i can come up with is that is for some kind attachment whole for like an accesory or maybe a craddle, but definetly not a strap, i dont think, lol
the phone is too heavy and you prob snapped the plastic cover off a lot too didnt you?
but i would love to really find out trully what kinda accesory would attached to it
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Its called a hanger hole, its in the manual
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/tech-specs/
No my plastic cover never came off
Anyone got and idea of how to fix it?
Looks like the holder is part of the phone frame. If the little T-shaped tab broke off, you may be SOL on fixing it. Perhaps you could buy a broken Tilt 2 off eBay (I've seen them) and transfer the part, but taking a phone apart and putting it back together correctly is not an easy task.
I never would have guessed that hole was for a strap or charm, although that's quite apparently what its for. The T-shaped tab under the battery covers sure doesn't look strong enough for the purpose.
never had a hole on mine, whered u get that from?! lol
Dragonmaster0430 said:
Its called a hanger hole, its in the manual
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/tech-specs/
No my plastic cover never came off
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oh... so you can wear the phone as a pendant... ya cause its so small and light i might mistake it for a necklace...
Same thing happened to me - I keep thinking how lucky I am it didn't go flying when it broke. I was able to loop the hanger through the square just to the left of where the "t" was - I can provide a pic shortly. Its been working so far...
apxi84 said:
oh... so you can wear the phone as a pendant... ya cause its so small and light i might mistake it for a necklace...
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I never, ever would have guessed that that hole was for hanging the little charms off of. I once wondered why this phone didn't come with something like that when most phones did.
Amazing what reading the manual can do~!
love hanging charms
sorry about your luck.
yep, i love hanging a charm or a cute screen cleaner from the charm hole.
been using it for a year..hope mine doesnt do the same
npropanol said:
Same thing happened to me - I keep thinking how lucky I am it didn't go flying when it broke. I was able to loop the hanger through the square just to the left of where the "t" was - I can provide a pic shortly. Its been working so far...
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Oh please do
I use a strap for mine. It works wonderfully!
Wow that's great. Does anybody know where to find a strap that would be good to wear my Tilt2 around my neck please? It would be great for working while wearing a wired headset. Hate keeping it in my pocket and I'm not happy with any of the holsters. Especially that oem one. That sucker will help a guy lose his phone in a hurry...
EDIT; Nevermind. I figured out to search for the words phone and lanyard on ebay. Decisions, desisions.
Memory card lanyards work fine too. I'm using a lanyard for a SanDisk MicroSD adapter for my phone. It works great.
Whoa, that little plastic bit holding the weight of a Tilt 2 on a lanyard or wrist strap? Sounds like tempting fate to me. I never have used a wrist strap on a phone and this definitely doesn't inspire me to try it now, lol. HTC should have built something a little more substantial than that into the frame if they wanted it to be really useful as a hanging point for the phone. I have been wondering where the strap on the HTC accessory page was supposed to attach, now I know.
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Whoa, that little plastic bit holding the weight of a Tilt 2 on a lanyard or wrist strap? Sounds like tempting fate to me. I never have used a wrist strap on a phone and this definitely doesn't inspire me to try it now, lol. HTC should have built something a little more substantial than that into the frame if they wanted it to be really useful as a hanging point for the phone. I have been wondering where the strap on the HTC accessory page was supposed to attach, now I know.
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You are correct. It does look cheesy. However, so far so good. I do think it is important to be certain that the string of the lanyard is seated to the base of the "T" opening really well. Fortunately that is easy to pull off. Also I don't think I'd swing it around by the lanyard with the cover off. After a few weeks of using a wrist strap and a neck lanyard I don't see any signs of stress on the plastic. So maybe it will hold out.

Wterproof Casing

http://list.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Goods/Goods.aspx?goodscode=412947105 if any of you guys is interested in this kind of casing looks similar to the one for the iphone. Not sure whether they ship international across the globe.
Interesting, and not too pricey either. Wonder if its actually quality though.
babyshanks said:
Interesting, and not too pricey either. Wonder if its actually quality though.
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according to what i've read is an exact OEM version from the iphone. was wondering too. guess i should buy and try it out soon.
Id be a little worried about a case like this. If anyone gets it please review it casue it is definitely intriguing. How would the capacitive buttons work though?
MxFadzil92 said:
according to what i've read is an exact OEM version from the iphone. was wondering too. guess i should buy and try it out soon.
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well I look forward to your review. I don't plan on dunking the guy in water, but it could come handy when I know I'll be in some harsher environments I.E. camping, skiing, etc.
edit: according to some ebay sellers, it's not waterproof. Just very water resistant, but would still serve my needs.
I really liked the concept, right up until I realized it looks like there is no way to remove the stylus, which I understand but not for me if thats the case.
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Id be a little worried about a case like this. If anyone gets it please review it casue it is definitely intriguing. How would the capacitive buttons work though?
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there's a rubber thingy on the capacitive button for you to press in the picture... i've ordered mine. will be back for reviews once i get my hands on it.
additional links for the case http://www.lovemeicase.com/pro.asp?id=38
Found a review for the s4 version, probably some similarities to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sADGf3LtAs
babyshanks said:
Found a review for the s4 version, probably some similarities to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sADGf3LtAs
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yeah. it's the same brand as the one i posted
found it for $29 shipped on ebay so I will report back what I think once I get it
even if not water proof it might not be hard to "finish" the deal and make it actually waterproof. I wonder if we can get a IR remote to "control" the phone (IE turn screen on and off and start camera and start stop recording. ie the basics.
4k underwater should be neat!
Looking forward to your review of the case. I am really looking for a waterproof case and Lifeproof doesn't have any plans of making one. Let me know what you think. We can always use the camera underwater when you change the setting to use the Volume up to take a photo or start the recording for a movie.
I'd be interested in participating in a petition for a LifeProof case I'd pledge to purchase one for sure. Especially the Nuud one so that I can still feel my lovely TG protector
Please do post a review of this. One way to test the waterproofing is to fold up tissue paper or kleenex inside the assembled case and submerge it overnight. It's not a guarantee that it's solid, but it'd be some reassurance.
hmmm I was thinking then how do you turn it on and off you could always disable the lock screen all together (I think you can do that ???)
but if the camera does not stay loaded..... then you have to surface to do it since the touch screen won't work underwater
an IR remote simplifies things. because then we only need a water proof ir remote. we can then BUILD our own bullet proof 100% water proof cases no problem. since we won't have to interact and we can "BOLT" the phone into the case.
its one of the reasons I am excited about the IR blaster. my concern is that the IR blaster might be one way IE can transmit but not receive.
I wonder. will bluetooth work underwater if the two devices are "touching" each other?
nerys71 said:
hmmm I was thinking then how do you turn it on and off you could always disable the lock screen all together (I think you can do that ???)
but if the camera does not stay loaded..... then you have to surface to do it since the touch screen won't work underwater
an IR remote simplifies things. because then we only need a water proof ir remote. we can then BUILD our own bullet proof 100% water proof cases no problem. since we won't have to interact and we can "BOLT" the phone into the case.
its one of the reasons I am excited about the IR blaster. my concern is that the IR blaster might be one way IE can transmit but not receive.
I wonder. will bluetooth work underwater if the two devices are "touching" each other?
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No way I would ever intentionally submerge my baby in water, but if one wanted to they could possibly set up a tasker profile: Context: camera on, Action: display timeout (whatever length you want) for example +other goodies: brightness etc., and do some button remapping i.e. triple click home/whatever (open camera app), volume up/down (record/take picture). Probably need to get rid of that time limit for 4k as well -- thread floating around here somewhere. Just some ideas. Would love to see some videos if you ever end up doing it.
I would rather say after reading reviews off other sites on google the case is more or less likely water resistant and there is too much opening on the case for it to be 100% waterproofing cases. Will update with pictures soon as i have just ordered mine recently.
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this case is NOT water proof. but I think I can MAKE it temporarily water proof. Fill in the mic holes plate that proximity sensor hole (and disable the proximity sensor) Fill in the speaker hole etc.. etc.. (use an ear piece)
go diving? NO but shove 12 inches under water to snap a pic or short video? maybe.
the point of external control is that it is then VERY easy to make a TRULY water proof case. think pelican box with a clear window for the screen and camera lens?
the MOMENT you need to access buttons you either need to use a weak flexible membrane OR you need to "compromise" the case and add water proof mechanical buttons.
eliminate ALL of that and suddenly interesting things are possible and at a price us SCHLEPS down here can afford !!!
have you SEEN how much money truly good quality water proof housings go for. $2500 for a good housing for my camera (good not the best just good!!)
if their were no buttons.... easy and cheap

Nexus 9 Magnetized back?

so i just put my brand new nexus 9 on the desk and all the metallic stuff underneath it seems to stick to it...... anyone else have this problem?
Dreamlogix said:
so i just put my brand new nexus 9 on the desk and all the metallic stuff underneath it seems to stick to it...... anyone else have this problem?
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O yes lol
I got that but on the sides
USBhost said:
O yes lol
I got that but on the sides
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i was worried you would say that.... the price of em shielding and heat sinks must have gone up so much htc cant afford them lmao X_X maybe they will fix that with the screen bleed and stuff in older revisions I mean seriously has material costs gotten that high? or maybe it is done that way by design.
i put my tablet on top of a tray that i use for all my ecig / low voltage lighting equipment and all the little metal wires stuck to the back and sides in various places. gotta admit this is my first tablet/phone/piece of electronic equipment that i own that has been this magnetic so i didnt really think about it right off the bat.
That's so the magic cover and keyboard folio can stay attached.
It's a feature not a bug. It's so the Google Surface keyboard case will work on it. It's a nice case, but I couldn't figure out how to get it at more than one angle, and it still seems to pose a threat when you want to flip it around like the cover of a book... Otherwise it's still really tiny compared to off market models.

Fingerprint sensor friendly case

Hello all. I had bought my v10 last week and got my third party case from eBay a couple of days ago and that's when I learned of the sensor issue. On mine, just like others, the sensor is nearly useless.
So I did some scouting and found the UAG case. I contacted the company in regards to this case and they claim the case works 100% with the fingerprint sensor. Has anyone here used the Urban Armor Gear case? Its a pretty pricey investment and don't want to flush more $$ on cases that just won't work.
Easy Fingerprint / Case fix
Just keep the case you like.
Cut a thin (~1") strip of aluminum foil long enough to connect both metal side rails (~3").
Lay it across the back of your phone so that it covers the bottom volume button and touches each metal side rail.
Then put the case on.
As long as your finger can brush up against the foil when you try to unlock, it works every time.
They'll eventually roll out an update that will address this, so don't worry about "cases that work", they're probably lying anyway unless they have a metal strip built in.
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Just keep the case you like.
Cut a thin (~1") strip of aluminum foil long enough to connect both metal side rails (~3").
Lay it across the back of your phone so that it covers the bottom volume button and touches each metal side rail.
Then put the case on.
As long as your finger can brush up against the foil when you try to unlock, it works every time.
They'll eventually roll out an update that will address this, so don't worry about "cases that work", they're probably lying anyway unless they have a metal strip built in.
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Hmmm. I'll try the aluminium strip thing.
I tried sending you a pic of mine, but this account is too new. Best of luck
jc0187 said:
Hmmm. I'll try the aluminium strip thing.
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iminahammock said:
I tried sending you a pic of mine, but this account is too new. Best of luck
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Here is what I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64016697&postcount=12. It works fine for me just remember to smooth out the edges so they are completely flat else you have a chance of scratching the metal rails.
Panzer500 said:
Here is what I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64016697&postcount=12. It works fine for me just remember to smooth out the edges so they are completely flat else you have a chance of scratching the metal rails.
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Hmm neat. That doesn't look too bad.
Alright. I added my foil as well. It works! Pretty dang ugly though. I didn't get mine as pretty. But hell, so far the sensor works!
jc0187 said:
Alright. I added my foil as well. It works! Pretty dang ugly though. I didn't get mine as pretty. But hell, so far the sensor works!
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All that really matters right? The pics I linked you were my second attempt the first wasn't as nice but then again I wasn't trying, it was more proof of concept. Good luck if you try it again.
Panzer500 said:
All that really matters right? The pics I linked you were my second attempt the first wasn't as nice but then again I wasn't trying, it was more proof of concept. Good luck if you try it again.
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Yep, just make it work. When I put the strip in, I didn't even cut around the hole like in your pics. It actually turned out pretty clean, the aluminum forms itself to the bottom button and looks kind of like a silver half-moon. I could see where yours could work better from some angles, but I never have problems, and am lazy. You can see it on imgur if you paste in mqJXBDY after the slash.
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Yep, just make it work. When I put the strip in, I didn't even cut around the hole like in your pics. It actually turned out pretty clean, the aluminum forms itself to the bottom button and looks kind of like a silver half-moon. I could see where yours could work better from some angles, but I never have problems, and am lazy. You can see it on imgur if you paste in mqJXBDY after the slash.
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I actually didn't cut that part out I used the excess and rolled it up to line the edge of the cutout so when I touch the FPS my finger would still be in contact with foil without covering up the button. Pretty much my cuts of foil are the red lines with the arrows showing where the pieces were rolled to line the edge.
That is pretty slick.

LG G5 painted plastic coating?

LG G5 painted in plastic coating?
Jerry rig everything video shows alot of proof.
Most of the professional reviewers are scared to speak the truth. Why? Are you scared of LG?
It is a die-cast aluminium body which then has the antennas placed on the outside (because the signals wouldn't get through the metal) there is then a primer to help the paint bond to the aluminium and cover up the antennas. They then use a microdised finish over the top which is effectively a metallic paint.
It's not plastic it's just not been machined and anodised. They were going for a different take on the metal body that could allow them to hide the antennas.
alexp999 said:
It is a die-cast aluminium body which then has the antennas placed on the outside (because the signals wouldn't get through the metal) there is then a primer to help the paint bond to the aluminium and cover up the antennas. They then use a microdised finish over the top which is effectively a metallic paint.
It's not plastic it's just not been machined and anodised. They were going for a different take on the metal body that could allow them to hide the antennas.
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A diffrent take lol. That plastic coating pretty much negates the need of having metal in a phone. Just make it out plastic if ythats all ill feel when holding it !
Most concerning part is the display assembly. So thin that you can see the pressure points when you select something. Maybe i am to demanding idk, but all the different phones over the years i have never experienced such thing.
FalconFX said:
A diffrent take lol. That plastic coating pretty much negates the need of having metal in a phone. Just make it out plastic if ythats all ill feel when holding it !
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You get the benefit of heat dissipation and rigidity/strength of the metal body instead of a plastic body.
alexp999 said:
You get the benefit of heat dissipation and rigidity/strength of the metal body instead of a plastic body.
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im pretty sure no one complained about such thing with S5/G4 and earlier devices that used full plastic builds. You are delusional my friend, they are missleading consumers, & then coming out with some bs excuse, "we are doing it differently, we didnt want to do what everyone else is doing" !
I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
alexp999 said:
I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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i sure as hell won't buy it, i already bought the S7Edge, and it doesnt have any plastic, at least none that makes contact with my hands !
FalconFX said:
i sure as hell won't buy it, i already bought the S7Edge, and it doesnt have any plastic, at least none that makes contact with my hands !
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Great
So what you doing hanging around the G5 forum then? Bye troll.
alexp999 said:
Great
So what you doing hanging around the G5 forum then? Bye troll.
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i gotta see ppls experiences with the G5, its good to know how good the competition is doing this year , apparently there is none so far
I got the S7 Edge as well but was hanging around here to see if I liked the G5 as I still have one more jump until July with Tmobiles jump on demand.
Looks like I'll be waiting to see what the HTC 10 brings to the table.
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alexp999 said:
I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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I agree with you. Peoples' ignorance is funny to read on here lol.
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The truth is LG G5 is ugly phone compared to galaxy S7 edge. I even think HTC 10 will be better then LG G5.
Am sorry to say.
umbrokhan said:
The truth is LG G5 is ugly phone compared to galaxy S7 edge. I even think HTC 10 will be better then LG G5.
Am sorry to say.
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definetly, the chanfer might be too big, but still, they are fixing what was broken in previous gens, & there software is the top OEM skin out there, so yeah it will be a good competitor to the S7/Edge.
It's called paint people get over it, especially from your gs7s
trolls everywhere…
seriously… this device has not been shipped worldwide yet and people already start complaining about built quality. get a life.
i preordered my g5 including a free camera module and i'm proud of that decision so far.
all thats left is that they start shipping to germany.
I keep wanting to think that the GS7E is good lucking. Maybe it's just that I'm coming from the G3 but....it just seems too damn narrow! But to be honest, the biggest problem is that I can't play with the GS7E at any of the stores, they're all on demo mode...maybe I should go into another carrier's store where there's one I can actually demo. Can anyone tell me whether your carrier typically has its demo phones NOT on retail mode? I'm on sprint here (and still undecided between G5/GS7E/GS7).
umbrokhan said:
Ok thank you for reporting me. And thank you for calling me names and insulting me. Anything else you want to add?
Plus am not forcing you to read my comments. You choose to read them your self. So blame your self not me. You can click ignore button but still you want to read my comments.
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I per-ordered the G5 and got it Friday. I have had no issues with. This whole metal vs. plastic issue is a joke. Structurally speaking, this is great phone. They had to switch to the thin metal aluminum in the back because of the void between the back and the screen when you take out the battery. And when you do take the battery out, there's very little to no deflection.
I have an metal body iphone 5s for work and i hate it. This is so much better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0
umbrokhan said:
Yeah am glad your happy with your new phone and you not insulting me like the other guy is.
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I'm not here to insult, just to inform on my experience thus far. However, i wish you wouldn't be commenting so negatively on this phone without using it for some considerable time. A 10 minute in-store demo use of the phone shouldn't count especially when you are looking for all the negatives. When i pick up a phone in the store i look for all the negatives first before the positives.
Like I said, the look and fell of this phone is great after 4 days of use. The main selling point for me was the removable battery and the camera. The battery seems like it's very easy to swap and the camera is superb. I took it to a show on Friday and the pictures where incredible especially in wide view. I'm sure the 7s takes better pictures, but i really like the wide angle.
I personally don't care for all the friends modules they're advertising.
Had i read your comments before i purchased the phone, i probably wouldn't have bought the phone. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to answer.

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