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I'm definitely excited that this new radio firmware has been leaked, but my dilemma is thus:
My wife and I both have Thunderbolts. I've rooted mine, thrown on custom ROMs, kernels, etc, but hers is stock. Her battery life is MUCH worse on stock than mine, even with the brightness, sync, etc turned down, so she's about to the point of wanting me to root/flash hers too.
Unfortunately, we may have to return her phone as the speakerphone is all but unusable due to feedback/noise issues while in a call. I know it's fairly simple to return a phone to stock, and Verizon can't tell over the air what ROM or kernel you're using, but from what I can gather, they CAN tell what radio version you're using. If I have to return her phone for warranty issues, will they see that she's had the leaked radio firmware and thus deny the claim?
if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
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if you are going to return it why go through the hassle of rooting and what not just return it then root the new one and install the new radio version.
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I agree. Just return the phone now if you are having problems.
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
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Veridor said:
I concur, but Verizon is giving me the runaround as I have yet to be able to reproduce the issue for them over the phone or in store. My main concern wasn't so much with rooting and flashing, but more of whether to use the "unauthorized" radio firmware update.
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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In my experience, the employees at the Verizon stores know less about the Thunderbolt than I do. I had to get my SD card replaced (twice), and though my phone wasn't rooted I doubt they would have noticed, and I would bet that they wouldn't notice a different radio on your wife's device.
Also, didn't Jcase release an unmodified/signed RUU of the new radio? Sounds to me like that would be indistinguishable from an "authorized" radio update. (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and this is pure speculation which would very well be 100% false.)
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Will have to look in to that. Guess I'm paranoid about them flagging my account as "teh haxx!" from using an unreleased radio.
If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
Just call tech and tell them the phone wont boot, they cant get you to trouble shoot a phone that wont boot up. They never check the phones you warranty out. I've warrantied out phones with cracked screens, water damage, you name it.
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If you plan to do a lot of tethering, wired or wireless, I don't suggest you flash it. Other than that you really have nothing to worry about.
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Why do you recommend not flashing the new radio if you are tethering?
Because, it isn't released yet. There have been reports (i.e. claims) of VZW cracking down on people who tether a lot and are running the unreleased radio. True or not, it's your decision.
When the ThunderBolt came out I had the iPhone 4. I had just gotten it from my sister's line 14 days before. I was going to upgrade from the 16gb to the 32gb but then I saw the ThunderBolt and changed my mind. Since I've had the BlackBerry Storm (CrackBerry was my favorite site), the iPhone 3GS (Jailbroken) Moto Droid OG (Rooted), Incredible (Rooted), I have had a long line of never leaving my phone stock. My iPhone 4 was no different. I was at work and didn't have time to un-Jailbreak it so I left it that way and brought it to the store. The reps took back the phone and I got the ThunderBolt. Needless to say, the reps are all about making money and trying to up sell you on accessories. They barely ever check the software of the phone.
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Dumb question.. This is related but, a bit off topic, since I'm gonna wait and root once gingerbread arrives (yeah yeah, i know), if I install the new UNROOTED Ruu will I still be able to receive the OTA version incase anything is different or changed in it? Also, will it affect getting OTA gingerbread??? Thanks to all!
When I got my Thunderbolt the rep told me about this site and we had a discussion about rooting. He had an iPhone4 which was jailbroken. He was going to get a Thunderbolt and he was looking forward to rooting it and trying some ROM's.
Another rep came over and joined the discussion. They obviously are 'unofficially' fine with it.
Your mileage may vary with reps. They aren't supposed to activate or look at any phone with third party software. But after activating my t-bolt and talking to a rep about rooting it he mentioned he turned away a kid with a X with liberty1.5. Just don't come in like and asshole. Think of your job, you're more than willing to go above and beyond for someone thats 'cool' and not looking for something for nothing.
Worse comes to worse, if you purchased the monthly warranty for your phone just tell them you lost it and pay the fee to get another one. That way they have no clue about anything.
Just pull the battery incase you have the find my android activated with them
Unless I'm mistaken, you can head over to this XDA thread and download the stock radio (1.12.605.6 = stock CDMA radio & 1.16.00.0223r = stock LTE radio)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081
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(The following text is re-posted from the above URL) :
Lastly (for now), we have the 1.12.605.6 CDMA/LTE radio combo.
CDMA Radio version: 1.16.00.0223r
LTE radio version that came with 1.12.605.6
http://www.multiupload.com/J0K4DL6SMQ
or
http://dougpiston.com/ThunderBolt/Radios/1.12.605.6_CDMA_1.13.605.7_LTE_radio-PG05IMG.zip
(rename to PG05img.zip)
MD5 - A740031D09FC97D1B48FBEDFE73FDD24
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I hope that helps you with your decision regarding your wife's phone.
Best,
M.
http://phandroid.com/2011/12/07/rum...tp://phandroid.com&xdm_c=default2355&xdm_p=1&
Ain't holding my breathe but would be nice if it did...
sounds reasonable given that it's currently in operator testing.
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sounds reasonable given that it's currently in operator testing.
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it's sprint's fault then? can't wait for 3.2
Globatron,
I want to thank you for all your useful posts and I also had question.
I own an Evo View since my wife works for Sprint's ad agency and won one via a raffle. I do not have Sprint Service so its essentially a wi-fi only tablet, do you know when and if the Honeycomb updated releases will View owners like myself with no Sprint service be left out in the cold?
I havent gotten a straight answer from Sprint and it seems like you may know people there.
I can't answer that for 100% certain but I would strongly doubt it, the update servers generally just check the model id and CID to make sure it's a valid device not whether you have an active contract. In any case it doesn't really matter becasue we'll put the HC up here anyway once it roll out.
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I can't answer that for 100% certain but I would strongly doubt it, the update servers generally just check the model id and CID to make sure it's a valid device not whether you have an active contract. In any case it doesn't really matter becasue we'll put the HC up here anyway once it roll out.
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Correct. After I purchased another evo view with no sprint service and no hands free activation I was able to download the updates for it via wi-fi.
The sprint service is mainly for the mobile data ability (3g/4g) and text messages. Other than that you can do everything over wi-fi.
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Correct. After I purchased another evo view with no sprint service and no hands free activation I was able to download the updates for it via wi-fi.
The sprint service is mainly for the mobile data ability (3g/4g) and text messages. Other than that you can do everything over wi-fi.
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Agreed. I too have a sprint-less view and I recieved a security update today when I hit WiFi. The only thing I didn't see was the file size I was hoping for in the update. 4.56mb instead of 210.
i think its out, i have an update on my view tablet but I wont update until i can confirm that recovery can be unlocked.
A couple of devices has already locked recovery on 3.0 and I hope history doesn't repeat it self
Does anyone know if I update my HTC View (with leaked ROM, not waiting for OTA official update), will I lose 4G?
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Does anyone know if I update my HTC View (with leaked ROM, not waiting for OTA official update), will I lose 4G?
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i have the view and the update came up. Only thing im on the sprint rom. So if you want it now flash one of the old sprints roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062184 - link for all the flyer roms just download one with sprint in its name
but remember when you update you will lose your root
Did you flash it, got any screens for us?
I don't know if location matters, but I'm on the west coast of the US with the View 4G on Sprint and I most definitely do not have the firmware update available on my tablet when I go to check system updates.
Still not reading anywhere about whether or not updating to the leaked ROM will ruin the 4G...I guess I'm just gonna wait. Further, since no one has the actual official update on Sprint's devices (or at least has posted) how do we know if we'll lose the ability to root the device? That's, from all accounts, a rumor since it's happened to other devices in the past...Not all, but some. So it's not confirmed.
Is there anyone out there who has actually flashed their Sprint HTC View to the leaked ROM (who also uses the data plan from Sprint)? Some insight would be much appreciated about whether or not 3G and/or 4G still works after doing so. Thanks.
I tried to update via the tablet settings and I got an Error code 1233 saying it could not be completed...?
Hmmm
The update I received, I can not and will not install. The first time I let it try, I got a nifty blue Andy with a caution sign over his head that sat there for about 30 minutes. I held down the power button until it shut off and rebooted, thankfully, back to the way it was. Then I deleted the zip file.
I'm sure this has been discussed before. Bluetooth not working since in update. Is there a way to check if the radio is corrupted or can it be reflashed? So far I have Ruu via dirty racun and tried stock pre jelly bean, when it worked on ICS and the Bluetooth still doesn't work. Its crazy that my phone had no issues at all with ICS meanrom. Everything worked well.
As soon as meanbean/JB I've lost Bluetooth capability. Car audio cannot find my phone nor can I find the car audioon my phone. Same goes for any accessories I have, HP laptop, MacBook pro, Bluetooth speakers. Nothing works. WiFi works well and my navigation has hiccups at times. WiFi tether works and just started to get LTE signal for the first time in my area, but the LTE signal was very weak and speed was slower than 3g. I'm not saying its meanbeans problem but JB? Should I bite the bullet and run ruu and go to sprint and get it repaired/fixed? If so how any issues with the newer phones and rooting?
I've tried other roms super jelly, viper, omj, cm10, meanrom, meanbean. I've had issues with my internal sd card with twrp on ver 2.4 and corrupted which I then did an ruu to fix. Currently on ver 2.3.1 which is stable for me. I'm lost to what to do. Worried about getting a replacement and having issues with the newer hboot. Can Bluetooth just die?
My sig has the current specs.
Arc reactor kernel OC @1.8
Meanbean 2.84
Baseband 1.12.11.1119
Build 3.15.651.16
Hboot 1.19.2222
Twrp 2.3.1
Thanks for any help.
Izzy
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took a look around as file explorer and found something marked Bluetooth and opened the viewer and its all in Japanese or something.
Is there a way to flash Bluetooth software back or is that done via ruu? Forgive the stupid questions.
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I would try going for s-off and updating to the latest firmware.
S-off:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309
Firmware:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...dio-Collection&p=220556&viewfull=1#post220556
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premo15 said:
I would try going for s-off and updating to the latest firmware.
S-off:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309
Firmware:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...dio-Collection&p=220556&viewfull=1#post220556
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Im already S-OFF and have updated the latest radios, but not hboot...
Well I finally got around to going to Sprint and having them try to see what is causing the Bluetooth and maps to not work. After 2 hours I was told by the rep that they are going to exchange my EVO and would have to wait for a replacement to be shipped.
Hopefully the new one won't give me headaches. Debating whether to keep it stock or unlock s-off and run custom. I just don't want to have issues with my EVO... But of course the power of modding makes this device scream.
Now that I've had this old one for a year its taken its share of beatings and drops.
I have ordered a few cases and my next one will be clothed 98 % of the time. The other 2% when cleaning or mounting for GPS use in car
Google or HTC should have fixed the software issue over the air. But hey my insurance coverage gets me a free new phone because of the hardware issue.. I really can't wait for my contract to upgrade to the HTC One or maybe S4 Samsung depending what I like.
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Got my phone and it works great, latest hboot and radios. Bluetooth and google maps works.
I went to go to charge my evo and guess what. Since the device was a referb the min usb plug is broken/damaged/bent. Now i have to go back to sprint tomorrow and have them order me another evo. Sad how I was so excited and getting ready to root but have this given to me straight from the box into the techs hand then to me.
I did see the S4 and One. Both seem so good. The one with the metal case feels solid...
now back to sprint and wait
Bluetooth worked, then didn't
I got My EVO in November... Tried bluetooth last week... didn't work, then i bought a new one... Same. Then, I did a factory reset... worked for about 5 minutes... then disconnected... NO connection since... I'm wondering if since NO insurance... If I'm screwed... I REALLY want to use my bluetooth
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I got My EVO in November... Tried bluetooth last week... didn't work, then i bought a new one... Same. Then, I did a factory reset... worked for about 5 minutes... then disconnected... NO connection since... I'm wondering if since NO insurance... If I'm screwed... I REALLY want to use my bluetooth
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No, take it back to Sprint. At minimum you have a 12 month manufacturer warranty. The ****ty BT hardware is a known issue in some of the EVO LTE production lines. If you say, "I've really been having trouble with my bluetooth - it won't reliably connect.." etc they are most likely to take it back for testing, and shortly thereafter offer to order you a replacement, gratis. Just give it a shot. Worst is that that it will cost you time, best is that you'll probably get a replacement with functioning BT. It worked for me.
Must go to a Sprint corporate store with a repair center.
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No, take it back to Sprint. At minimum you have a 12 month manufacturer warranty. The ****ty BT hardware is a known issue in some of the EVO LTE production lines. If you say, "I've really been having trouble with my bluetooth - it won't reliably connect.." etc they are most likely to take it back for testing, and shortly thereafter offer to order you a replacement, gratis. Just give it a shot. Worst is that that it will cost you time, best is that you'll probably get a replacement with functioning BT. It worked for me.
Must go to a Sprint corporate store with a repair center.
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Okay quick update... My brother got a HTC one max, gave his girlfriend his One, I got her EVO 4G LTE... Bluetooth now working... My old one... We're working on it...
Hi all,
in 2 weeks I can choose a new phone and I am doubting between the S4 and HTC One. I have played with both phones and currently my preference is the HTC One and that would be my first HTC.
However I often read the update policy/support is not that good, would this a reason for you not to buy the One? Personally I don't want to root phones so I am dependent on these updates. Can HTC afford not to give proper support looking at their current position as company?
Interested in your opinion, thanks.
The HTC One will be supported. I wouldn't let that concern keep you from choosing the One.
Now, if Google announces a Nexus 5 at I/O....
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The entire company (htc) is riding on this phone. They have already released the source. You can unlock this phone through htcdev. There is already an update and they have submitted it to carriers (it's not 4.2.2 but it shows us commitment).
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There's already been 2 updates, and 4.2.2 is supposed to come out next month.
Lag has been a minor nuisance since I've had the phone.
But it seems to have stopped all of a sudden either yesterday or today.
This happen to anyone else? Anyone know why?
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I was about to post a follow up on the tweaks and ART runtime (that had been working almost flawlessly on my device for almost 24 hours straight now) and saw this thread.
Even though the improvements given by ART and some RAM/Display/Scrolling tweaks were phenomenal, they still had moments of minor stuttering once or twice in an hour's time.
Today however, I noticed my device charging faster, not getting as hot, etc.
Is anyone aware of something that could have caused this?
2 of my close friends have the VZW G3 as well, on the latest firmware. I'm going to send them a text and see if they noticed anything different today.
I'll report back.
I am on 10b firmware, which the phone came with. I did not know there we're any other firmwears for the Verizon LG G3.
trent999 said:
I am on 10b firmware, which the phone came with. I did not know there we're any other firmwears for the Verizon LG G3.
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Nope. Verizon hasn't updated the phone since launch
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oadam11 said:
Nope. Verizon hasn't updated the phone since launch
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Is there suppose to be an update that they're working on?
tu3218 said:
Is there suppose to be an update that they're working on?
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They are suppose to be working with LG continuously to make sure all the firmware improvements LG makes in response to the many issues us users/beta-testers have found and reported are updated onto our phones asap.
Particularly since unlike T-Mobile they have required our Verizon G3s be locked down so we cannot update them ourselves...
In reality, Verizon is happy with whatever shipped initially on the phones since everyone who got one is stuck with it for about two years and there is no revenue from updated firmware, so why should they give a damn ?
We might get a Kit Kat update to 4.4.4 maybe about the time L is released, and if Verizon is feeling unusually benevolent, eventually, an L update maybe 6 months later. Or not.
Verizon does not care at all about Android customers, even though we are the majority of their users. You can be sure they will be all over the iPhone6 phones when they release in a couple of weeks though.
trent999 said:
They are suppose to be working with LG continuously to make sure all the firmware improvements LG makes in response to the many issues us users/beta-testers have found and reported are updated onto our phones asap.
Particularly since unlike T-Mobile they have required our Verizon G3s be locked down so we cannot update them ourselves...
In reality, Verizon is happy with whatever shipped initially on the phones since everyone who got one is stuck with it for about two years and there is no revenue from updated firmware, so why should they give a damn ?
We might get a Kit Kat update to 4.4.4 maybe about the time L is released, and if Verizon is feeling unusually benevolent, eventually, an L update maybe 6 months later. Or not.
Verizon does not care at all about Android customers, even though we are the majority of their users. You can be sure they will be all over the iPhone6 phones when they release in s couple of weeks though.
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100% agree with everything you said but comparing it to iOS is kind of unfair. Those updates comes straight from Apple. Although the majority of Verizon phones are Android, they sell more iPhones than any other device by far, even Sammy flagships. That gives Apple the leveraging power to be able to give straight updates and have no branding on their phones.
Apple produces updates and tests them for the various iPhone models, ok. Do they then send them out to Verizon and ATT and every other cell company that allows the use of iPhones for review and pre-OTA testing for "network compatibility" ? I don't think so, I think they update from their own servers directly to user's phones, but I am not sure.
For Android hardware vendors, though, if they even create updates for Verizon models, they have to, for some reason, go through Verizon to reach their own customers. LG cannot send OTA updates to LG customers, because Verizon won't let them ? Instead we have situations like with the LG G3, where T-Mobile and ATT and European users have updated firmware up to v10j while we are lingering with 10b still. The South Koreans even have 10k I think.
There are some significant improvements in these updates, but Verizon LG customers may never see them, because of Verizon. That is very annoying, to me, and the minute they take away my unlimited data I am gone never to return.
The Verizon LG G3 works with 4gLTE on Cricket here, and H, and Edge. That's on ATT towers. I am using that now. It also works on T-Mobile, though I am unclear about what connection types are supported. I heard LTE works there too. If I leave Verizon, I'll just stick a pre-paid SIM in and that will be fine.
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100% agree with everything you said but comparing it to iOS is kind of unfair. Those updates comes straight from Apple. Although the majority of Verizon phones are Android, they sell more iPhones than any other device by far, even Sammy flagships. That gives Apple the leveraging power to be able to give straight updates and have no branding on their phones.
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I see you're still lurking around the G3 forum... You getting one??
It is a bummer to not have have the options we had on our S4s but I still love this phone with Root and xposed and I'm quite happy.
Our G3 devs are still saying they're going to be able to unlock these things which is cool... Anyways just wanted to say what up!
- Tapatalked from the G3
I tested my Verizon G3 with my T-Mobile prepaid sim and got better 4gLTE download and upload and ping than I got native on Verizon here.
So, both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE work on this phone.
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I see you're still lurking around the G3 forum... You getting one??
It is a bummer to not have have the options we had on our S4s but I still love this phone with Root and xposed and I'm quite happy.
Our G3 devs are still saying they're going to be able to unlock these things which is cool... Anyways just wanted to say what up!
- Tapatalked from the G3
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Right now, it's looking like the G3. I'm still waiting to see the Note 4 tomorrow and the Moto X+1 on Thursday because hey why not. I doubt the Note 4 will be tempting enough to actually accept running stock TW or even hoping for a Hashcode disciple to get Safestrap on there, then I'm still really limited. The Moto X+1 probably won't have a removable battery, which is a problem. It's very annoying to use my One Max with it's embedded battery compared to S4 where I never think about it.
The ZL battery for the G3 just came out and it's looking like good days are coming in the bootloader situation, so I'll probably be pulling the trigger soon enough.
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The ZL battery for the G3 just came out and it's looking like good days are coming in the bootloader situation, so I'll probably be pulling the trigger soon enough.
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What ZL battery are you talking about? Zero Lemon just announced another delay a couple days ago.
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What ZL battery are you talking about? Zero Lemon just announced another delay a couple days ago.
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yeah i looked that up after i posted that lol, I remembered 8/30 being the release date, that's the second delay already. It's a shame they're tripping up like this. I hope it at least means a better product in the end.
The Note 4 is pretty enticing right now, I need to let the newness wear down lol.
So which Verizon app was causing the art shutdown. Also did anyone find a way to fix the almost unreadable text when thin and small
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