Hi everyone! I will be getting my kindle fire hdx 8.9 very soon. I am fairly familiar with rooting, the custom Rom scene, etc.
But I had one important question. Are there any consequences to rooting and shoehorning in Google play store, etc? Will it prevent future device updates, or otherwise disable any Amazon features? Or would that only happen if you installed a custom Rom (eventually)?
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AKToronto said:
Hi everyone! I will be getting my kindle fire hdx 8.9 very soon. I am fairly familiar with rooting, the custom Rom scene, etc.
But I had one important question. Are there any consequences to rooting and shoehorning in Google play store, etc? Will it prevent future device updates, or otherwise disable any Amazon features? Or would that only happen if you installed a custom Rom (eventually)?
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Nope there aren't any consequences that will disable any Amazon features. While it won't prevent device updates from happening keep in mind any OTA update can and will likely break root. Eventually when custom ROMs, and recoveries are introduced then updates will usually fail to install in custom recoveries (But not always) and custom ROMs (AOSP based) will prevent you from using Amazon specfic features.
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Hi guys
I've had a look around and understand that I'll need to edit the 'build prop' so that my device is recognised as another phone in order to have a more widespread choice of apps.
I want to install Need for Speed most wanted but the application cannot be found in the Play store and installing via the web based Play store is not allowed due to the app not being supported.
It makes me wonder how many other apps I could be missing out on!
Would anyone be able to recommend the changes to make as I don't want to make any mistakes and also how to go about making changes - I know this currently can't be done via a file explorer and probably has to be done via recovery.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
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Hi guys
I've had a look around and understand that I'll need to edit the 'build prop' so that my device is recognised as another phone in order to have a more widespread choice of apps.
I want to install Need for Speed most wanted but the application cannot be found in the Play store and installing via the web based Play store is not allowed due to the app not being supported.
It makes me wonder how many other apps I could be missing out on!
Would anyone be able to recommend the changes to make as I don't want to make any mistakes and also how to go about making changes - I know this currently can't be done via a file explorer and probably has to be done via recovery.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
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Are you running custom or stock? And just throwing this out that I'm pretty sure NFS doesn't work on our phones. A review I watched showed that it just displays a black screen.
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Hi I am using Factory Roms custom Rom - Verizon DNA 1.15.605.4 Rooted/Deodexed/Semi-Debloated/Busybox.
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Anyone got any ideas?
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Anyone got any ideas?
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I am guessing that whether stock or rooted, by installing apps from unknown sources, you are betting (praying, might also help) that some nefarious developer out there is not smart enough to leave some "cool" bug on your device.
But I'm not positive by any means, either.
Don't know what OS you're running but both NFS run great on HD2 Ansar 8773 ROM (and in years of sideloading apps I've yet to encounter some mythical '"cool" bug' - even in WM6.5 but least of all in the protected WP7 OS..Android is a different story!)
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Don't know what OS you're running but both NFS run great on HD2 Ansar 8773 ROM (and in years of sideloading apps I've yet to encounter some mythical '"cool" bug' - even in WM6.5 but least of all in the protected WP7 OS..Android is a different story!)
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...you're talking about a ROM we don't have because you're talking about a different phone. No offense, but how do all of these people not see Droid DNA plastered all over the top? Lol
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I want to know what is your personally reason for root the phone?
I rooted my phone because want to try something new, i like changes, want to know something about rooting, want to install add away and call recorder from skvalex.
What about You ? Which apps do you use for rooted phones?
P.S
This thread can give me ideas or new way to use phone, new apps which i dont know, etc.
I do it because I can. And because I like the freedom root access allows.
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I personally root to customise it.
Get rid of bloatware, get inverted Google apps.
To me stock is how samsung want it and root is how I want it.
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I do it because I can. And because I like the freedom root access allows.
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But what " freedom root access" mean? What do you have with it and what do you do ? That what i want to know because i want discover more then i know - even if i dont know
I rooted due to customization, few apps like titanium backup pro, cwm, reverse Tethering
I love to be controller of my gadget not some os
Android as-is offers a lot of customization, but rooting it unlocks a whole new level of customization and offers things never possible without root privileges.
How some people can enjoy the locked-down state of iOS is beyond me, or letting themselves be controlled by Apple in the first place.
It offer you more option to do with your phone.
Hope I help u
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-Greenify
-Stweaks (mostly modifying charging currents)
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Custom ROMS. That's why I rooted and I like the terminal emulator better with SU access.
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC2
I rooted to use adaway and get rid of ads among other stuff
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im still learning what i can do with it, but so stoked to play with my new and improved phone! thanks Repairem.com
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Thats why i created this thread. But want to make people more tralkative
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-Greenify
-Stweaks (mostly modifying charging currents)
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BIG THX for this app.
universal ssalfic
mine? Uh, It's like running a Windows on a PC with Admin right. Can I put it like that?
I want the 100% power of my phone and not either a locked smartphone or with limits....
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Root comes stock with CM10.1, and one of the key reason for root would be for backup.
You can access all the different root directories to transfer files and sync it automatically in the night when you're sleeping!
Because I get lonely sometimes.
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being able to have 100% control of something i paid lots of money for. i also like to be unique and original. Just like my cars..i have to modify and customize them
sent from where i'm at.
I do it for the custom ROMs and freedom to do whatever I please with the phone. I don't think twice before rooting my phones.
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I came into rooting because I bought a Vodafone 360[i8320] which had linux mobile on it and great specs for that day. With that phone you could connect to the Vodafone 360 forum were you can buy apps(limo) for €5 and share your contacts and connect to 360 people.
Within +/- a year the 360 forum was dead. I found the H1 Droid forum were people weer busy porting Android on that phone. It had much benefits: custom roms flashing and making backups, adjusting the phone in every aspect; from keylayout to dpi to overclocking to kernel adjusting. Getting adds out of free apps and getting apps for free.
Nowadays I enjoy a G. Nexus which I immediately rooted after buying it.
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cuz my first android phone was a Lg P990, and without root and custom rom it was unusable.
Rooted
to use some of the apps and try diffrent ROM
Today I have been sitting at work. I compared the LG Nexus 5 to the Galaxy S4 and noticed they were pretty similar. Not same, just alike. Anyway, what I though about is can the S4 be cleaned up and as close to a Nexus as possible? Is there a way to mod this and replace the ROM with something as clean and stock that is NOT SS? I am not one for writing code but I do follow directions pretty well and can mod without bricking my phone. I've started modding back with the Samsung Moment/Transform. So, is this possible? if so, are there any threads? and lastly, what is the difference with android dev and original android dev? the forums kinda changed on me one day and now it has new stuffs.
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Today I have been sitting at work. I compared the LG Nexus 5 to the Galaxy S4 and noticed they were pretty similar. Not same, just alike. Anyway, what I though about is can the S4 be cleaned up and as close to a Nexus as possible? Is there a way to mod this and replace the ROM with something as clean and stock that is NOT SS? I am not one for writing code but I do follow directions pretty well and can mod without bricking my phone. I've started modding back with the Samsung Moment/Transform. So, is this possible? if so, are there any threads? and lastly, what is the difference with android dev and original android dev? the forums kinda changed on me one day and now it has new stuffs.
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With the locked bootloader you are out of luck replacing the full OS.
But you will lose some nice features if you could.
I rooted and disabled all the Verizon and Samsung stuff I don't use or need. YMMV on what you want frozen.
I have mine pretty tuned now.
I have the latest version of wallet supporting tap and pay.
Have Xposed framework installed to change behavior.
I don't need vanilla Android.
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With the locked bootloader you are out of luck replacing the full OS.
But you will lose some nice features if you could.
I rooted and disabled all the Verizon and Samsung stuff I don't use or need. YMMV on what you want frozen.
I have mine pretty tuned now.
I have the latest version of wallet supporting tap and pay.
Have Xposed framework installed to change behavior.
I don't need vanilla Android.
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I am rooted on ME7. I didn't upgrade because i am in the field playing army. anyhoo, what samsung stuff did you freeze? i don't want to freeze something that is required to run. Can i freeze the launcher if i have a replacement already running(touchwiz)?
what did you do to "tune" it?
And it's been awhile since i modded.
I checked the sticky and froze apps from the list people tested. I then picked a few of my own. I'm running xposed and the Wanam module that allows me to change all kinds do of appearance stuff. I also have tethering working. I moved from ME7. In hindsight I would stay there MI1 has more limitations for customization.
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Does xposed framework work with mj7 I'm also rooted as well
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I checked the sticky and froze apps from the list people tested. I then picked a few of my own. I'm running xposed and the Wanam module that allows me to change all kinds do of appearance stuff. I also have tethering working. I moved from ME7. In hindsight I would stay there MI1 has more limitations for customization.
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That is why I am staying on ME7 until i see a viable root for 4.3. I don't want to risk losing root or the framework either.
as for the sticky, i can't seem to find it in the boards. i wear glasses so I know i'm blind.
Framework works on mj7. You can update without losing root but yes you need to find the thread, there are files and instructions. Also will likely need a como to properly odin no wipe back to a stock system set up.
Find in the general section.
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So do I just install as normal
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I just purchased a new S4 this week. My last 2 phones were HTC phones which I rooted and flashed TWRP. HTC provides a method to unlock the bootloader. I only didn't go with a HTC One because of the lack of a removable battery and no SD card capability. Apparently rooting, installing recoveries and custom ROM's is a more involved process with the S4 because of locked bootloader. My understanding at this point is that I need to use the Safestrap method for recoveries and ROMs. My question is what if any is the downside of using Safestrap opposed to the normal method of flashing recoveries and ROMs? My S4 is MK2 with Android 4.3. Thanks.
Well with the way the s4 is locked down and safe strap being the only way for now to run a custom ROM... There are limitations to what you can do. No aosp roms or custom kernels. You can only run roms that use the stock kernel. After flashing a ROM you have to flash the modules for the bootloader you have.
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I just purchased a new S4 this week. My last 2 phones were HTC phones which I rooted and flashed TWRP. HTC provides a method to unlock the bootloader. I only didn't go with a HTC One because of the lack of a removable battery and no SD card capability. Apparently rooting, installing recoveries and custom ROM's is a more involved process with the S4 because of locked bootloader. My understanding at this point is that I need to use the Safestrap method for recoveries and ROMs. My question is what if any is the downside of using Safestrap opposed to the normal method of flashing recoveries and ROMs? My S4 is MK2 with Android 4.3. Thanks.
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A thread in general section that's a sticky that will help u.
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Well with the way the s4 is locked down and safe strap being the only way for now to run a custom ROM... There are limitations to what you can do. No aosp roms or custom kernels. You can only run roms that use the stock kernel. After flashing a ROM you have to flash the modules for the bootloader you have.
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Thank you very much. That answers my question partly. I guess I should have said do apps and system files work without issues on a safestrap rom? Is there a difference that you can tell.
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A thread in general section that's a sticky that will help u.
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Thanks. I did read loads of info in the stickies. There are some great tutorials on how to root, etc. I may have missed where it mentions the difference in how a phone works with a safestrap flashed rom opposed to one flashed by other recoveries. One of the reasons I ask is that from some comments apparently people are not happy about having to use safestrap. I now get the issue with being limited to the type of rom because of locked bootloader. I wanted to know if there were other concerns.
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Eddie Hicks said:
Thanks. I did read loads of info in the stickies. There are some great tutorials on how to root, etc. I may have missed where it mentions the difference in how a phone works with a safestrap flashed rom opposed to one flashed by other recoveries. One of the reasons I ask is that from some comments apparently people are not happy about having to use safestrap. I now get the issue with being limited to the type of rom because of locked bootloader. I wanted to know if there were other concerns.
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the only option available for non-MDK firmware phones is safstrap and it works with compatible roms which have grown in number. I have been using it since its initial release for the S4 and have zero complaints or concerns...
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the only option available for non-MDK firmware phones is safstrap and it works with compatible roms which have grown in number. I have been using it since its initial release for the S4 and have zero complaints or concerns...
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Great that's what I wanted to hear. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
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So, I feel asleep belly down on my tablet and awoke to find the file manager open to a root directory. I'm thinking I accidentally deleted some system files because a lot of apps are crashing with java.lang.runtimeexception unable to start process. Should I just give in and re-enable OTA?
The update really does look attractive and apparently addresses many ram issues. Is there any way to retain root? While preferred, I could live without it.
Thanks in advance!
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You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
What version of FireOS are you currently on?
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You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
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Care to elaborate on that?
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XxD34THxX said:
You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
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First statement is FUD. Second may or may not be true depending on current firmware version/level. Agree with last sentence. Let's fully assess situation before plunging in the knife. You failed to do that before and bricked one (if not) two devices.
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First statement is FUD. Second may or may not be true depending on current firmware version/level. Agree with last sentence. Let's fully assess situation before plunging in the knife. You failed to do that before and bricked one (if not) two devices.
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Tablet still works okay enough. I think I've narrowed down the issue to android web view. On apps such as Reddit is fun, it loads up text posts just fine but crashes as soon as it tries to load up an imgur link or some other webpage. Apps such as dolphin crash immediately, but chrome works just fine because it uses its own engine for html interpretation and rendering.
Should I try installing Google's Android web view build?
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terra_byte_tech said:
Tablet still works okay enough. I think I've narrowed down the issue to android web view. On apps such as Reddit is fun, it loads up text posts just fine but crashes as soon as it tries to load up an imgur link or some other webpage. Apps such as dolphin crash immediately, but chrome works just fine because it uses its own engine for html interpretation and rendering.
Should I try installing Google's Android web view build?
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Can't comment on your specific question; I have no direct experience with Google's tools. If you continue to experience problems I would lean toward installing another rom (Nexus or CM) since you have the ability to unlock your bootloader which offers the most flexibility. If that is unattractive for whatever reason then you may want to go with Safestrap v3 which can then be used to 'repair' FireOS. There is some risk with this approach but you would retain root and could uninstall Safestrap after FireOS is made whole again.
Well, I tried installing Google's webview build. It's not compatible with our CPU apparently.
Could someone put up a copy of their kindle's webview apk? I can't find it anywhere online.
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Can't comment on your specific question; I have no direct experience with Google's tools. If you continue to experience problems I would lean toward installing another rom (Nexus or CM) since you have the ability to unlock your bootloader which offers the most flexibility. If that is unattractive for whatever reason then you may want to go with Safestrap v3 which can then be used to 'repair' FireOS. There is some risk with this approach but you would retain root and could uninstall Safestrap after FireOS is made whole again.
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If I were to unlock the bootloader would I be able to retain it after update? I don't want to go with a different Rom because I'm already very limited on how much free space I have on my device.
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If I were to unlock the bootloader would I be able to retain it after update? I don't want to go with a different Rom because I'm already very limited on how much free space I have on my device.
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It's one or the other:
- unlock bootloader and replace rom (possibly with a good version of FireOS)
- install Safestrap and replace rom in stock slot as your space is limited. FireOS remains an option.
Both paths involve risk. Bootloader unlocking is more complicated but offers better recovery capability if something goes wrong. Safestrap is much easier (quicker) but has limited recovery capability if your rom gets borked. Bootloader unlock is permanent unless you try to flash a full image from a Amazon (only use FireOS images recommended in these forums).