So, I feel asleep belly down on my tablet and awoke to find the file manager open to a root directory. I'm thinking I accidentally deleted some system files because a lot of apps are crashing with java.lang.runtimeexception unable to start process. Should I just give in and re-enable OTA?
The update really does look attractive and apparently addresses many ram issues. Is there any way to retain root? While preferred, I could live without it.
Thanks in advance!
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You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
What version of FireOS are you currently on?
XxD34THxX said:
You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
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Care to elaborate on that?
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XxD34THxX said:
You have a 90% chance of hard bricking. No root either I believe. Pretty sure there is no undo either. Hold off, see if safestrap or TWRP is available, and flash a ROM with that.
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First statement is FUD. Second may or may not be true depending on current firmware version/level. Agree with last sentence. Let's fully assess situation before plunging in the knife. You failed to do that before and bricked one (if not) two devices.
Davey126 said:
First statement is FUD. Second may or may not be true depending on current firmware version/level. Agree with last sentence. Let's fully assess situation before plunging in the knife. You failed to do that before and bricked one (if not) two devices.
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Tablet still works okay enough. I think I've narrowed down the issue to android web view. On apps such as Reddit is fun, it loads up text posts just fine but crashes as soon as it tries to load up an imgur link or some other webpage. Apps such as dolphin crash immediately, but chrome works just fine because it uses its own engine for html interpretation and rendering.
Should I try installing Google's Android web view build?
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Tablet still works okay enough. I think I've narrowed down the issue to android web view. On apps such as Reddit is fun, it loads up text posts just fine but crashes as soon as it tries to load up an imgur link or some other webpage. Apps such as dolphin crash immediately, but chrome works just fine because it uses its own engine for html interpretation and rendering.
Should I try installing Google's Android web view build?
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Can't comment on your specific question; I have no direct experience with Google's tools. If you continue to experience problems I would lean toward installing another rom (Nexus or CM) since you have the ability to unlock your bootloader which offers the most flexibility. If that is unattractive for whatever reason then you may want to go with Safestrap v3 which can then be used to 'repair' FireOS. There is some risk with this approach but you would retain root and could uninstall Safestrap after FireOS is made whole again.
Well, I tried installing Google's webview build. It's not compatible with our CPU apparently.
Could someone put up a copy of their kindle's webview apk? I can't find it anywhere online.
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Can't comment on your specific question; I have no direct experience with Google's tools. If you continue to experience problems I would lean toward installing another rom (Nexus or CM) since you have the ability to unlock your bootloader which offers the most flexibility. If that is unattractive for whatever reason then you may want to go with Safestrap v3 which can then be used to 'repair' FireOS. There is some risk with this approach but you would retain root and could uninstall Safestrap after FireOS is made whole again.
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If I were to unlock the bootloader would I be able to retain it after update? I don't want to go with a different Rom because I'm already very limited on how much free space I have on my device.
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If I were to unlock the bootloader would I be able to retain it after update? I don't want to go with a different Rom because I'm already very limited on how much free space I have on my device.
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It's one or the other:
- unlock bootloader and replace rom (possibly with a good version of FireOS)
- install Safestrap and replace rom in stock slot as your space is limited. FireOS remains an option.
Both paths involve risk. Bootloader unlocking is more complicated but offers better recovery capability if something goes wrong. Safestrap is much easier (quicker) but has limited recovery capability if your rom gets borked. Bootloader unlock is permanent unless you try to flash a full image from a Amazon (only use FireOS images recommended in these forums).
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You may have already seen this but if not, XDA member febcyv has managed to get google now working with ICS.
Link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045
I have not tried this on my TF300 yet, but if anyone else has I would be eager to find out how you got on.
Good luck and enjoy
Just installed it, and everything wet smoothly. I have no idea what I am expecting now though, it appears to have just replaced the search bar. Nothing different seems to have happened so far.
Edit: I had to install the modified Velvet-theos0o.apk file in order to get it to work properly. Voice search isn't working but that seems to be a common issue.
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if you search factual questions it should now bring up "knowledge cards" with your answer rather than a google search.
Also try holding home and dragging up, it may open "google now" which is supposed to act a bit like your PA and learn your routine
I'm also doing a bigger more widespread port of this over in the android development>apps and games section
We have both a flashable .zip and an .apk. It has a strong effort into getting voice to work. If you want check it out. Go ahead!
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SilentStormer said:
I'm also doing a bigger more widespread port of this over in the android development>apps and games section
We have both a flashable .zip and an .apk. It has a strong effort into getting voice to work. If you want check it out. Go ahead!
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Thanks! I'll keep an eye on it
Is there any versions out for non-rooted devices? Don't feel too good rooting my new device, would lose the quarantee
Unlocking voids warranty, rooting doesn't.
It says that it requires a "A Rooted device running ICS AOSP Rom". I'm rooted but NOT unlocked and therefore NOT running a custom ROM.
This won't work for me. Right?
beejmeister said:
It says that it requires a "A Rooted device running ICS AOSP Rom". I'm rooted but NOT unlocked and therefore NOT running a custom ROM.
This won't work for me. Right?
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Im not 100% sure, but I would imagine that the stock ROM is close enough to AOSP for it to work.
I think it probably would work, but you may want to wait for someone else to confirm
beejmeister said:
It says that it requires a "A Rooted device running ICS AOSP Rom". I'm rooted but NOT unlocked and therefore NOT running a custom ROM.
This won't work for me. Right?
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I'm the head of one of the Google Now for ICS projects and you can probably install this normally. Just make sure not to delete your original "GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk" file. Just rename it and have it on hand to put back if anything goes wrong.
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Didnt work for me!!
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I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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Well you will only be able to use roms that use the stock kernel. So not every rom is available to you, but there are still enough.
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I can't find an exact answer tothis when searching, so i'll ask here. My mdk unlocked ran great until I dropped it and cracked the screen. My replacement is coming, i fear itll be an me7.but if I use safestrap after rooting, itshould be just like the old phone, right? From what i'm reading, ss doesn't slow the phone any. Any other disadvantages? Thanks.
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Disadvantages are that you won't be able to use any non-stock kernel roms (like any AOSP roms) and you'll be very limited on storage space unless you're daring enough to flash over the stock rom slot (some people do this and there's no issues).
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Disadvantages are that you won't be able to use any non-stock kernel roms (like any AOSP roms) and you'll be very limited on storage space unless you're daring enough to flash over the stock rom slot (some people do this and there's no issues).
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I do this and don't like the limits. I wish I could use CWM or TWRP but can't on ME7. So irritating. I do love the Safestrap recovery but I just wish ME7 wouldn't limit safestrap so much. It's such a great recovery software.
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I do this and don't like the limits. I wish I could use CWM or TWRP but can't on ME7. So irritating. I do love the Safestrap recovery but I just wish ME7 wouldn't limit safestrap so much. It's such a great recovery software.
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For the record I got it working. Had to max out partition sizes in rom slot but it installed. No perceptible slowdown I can see.
I figure I can just use Odin to unroot, but I need help finding a good stock ROM. I heard the NoWipe version isn't the best to use because they might search for SuperUser apps and deny the warranty, and that's all I've found.
Thanks
Kirsel said:
I figure I can just use Odin to unroot, but I need help finding a good stock ROM. I heard the NoWipe version isn't the best to use because they might search for SuperUser apps and deny the warranty, and that's all I've found.
Thanks
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I think you'd be fine to uninstall the super user app. I think you can use the no wipe tar. But they might update it. Or they might not. If you don't have the custom screen on boot send it in.
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I think you'd be fine to uninstall the super user app. I think you can use the no wipe tar. But they might update it. Or they might not. If you don't have the custom screen on boot send it in.
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Oh, I'm sorry I should specify. My screen is broken, as in I can't see anything on it. Not just cracked glass. So it's not necessarily just a matter of uninstalling super user. Since I'm not sure I can do that with a broken screen.
I think I am about as new as they come when it comes to rooting or modifying a phone. Perhaps I shouldn't do anything. I will do what is safe, which is to read and then read some more.
I have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 with a mk2 build. I just wanted to check with the forum to see if I am on the right track.
First - I have enabled developer options and USB debugging. I download Fies and I think I have downloaded recent USB drivers. This is where I have stopped.
Second - I download safe root (not sure where) and root the phone.
Third - I would download safestrap for mk2. I think this would allow me to actually change factory settings.
It is my understanding that removing bloat ware or making simple changes can brick the phone so I am trying to see why you would undertake this entire endeavor.
Then there is Odin. I need to read up on this topic. I have no clue what purpose it serves.
Keeping in mind I have and will do nothing other than enable developer options, am I on the right track in terms of research?
Thanks in advance.
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realdog4 said:
I think I am about as new as they come when it comes to rooting or modifying a phone. Perhaps I shouldn't do anything. I will do what is safe, which is to read and then read some more.
I have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 with a mk2 build. I just wanted to check with the forum to see if I am on the right track.
First - I have enabled developer options and USB debugging. I download Fies and I think I have downloaded recent USB drivers. This is where I have stopped.
Second - I download safe root (not sure where) and root the phone.
Third - I would download safestrap for mk2. I think this would allow me to actually change factory settings.
It is my understanding that removing bloat ware or making simple changes can brick the phone so I am trying to see why you would undertake this entire endeavor.
Then there is Odin. I need to read up on this topic. I have no clue what purpose it serves.
Keeping in mind I have and will do nothing other than enable developer options, am I on the right track in terms of research?
Thanks in advance.
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Start out here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
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Also check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578569
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Thank you for the links.
I forgot to add I am using a Hyperion extended battery. Do I need to use the stock battery when making any sort of changes or downloading necessary software?
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realdog4 said:
Thank you for the links.
I forgot to add I am using a Hyperion extended battery. Do I need to use the stock battery when making any sort of changes or downloading necessary software?
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No your good to go with that battery. After you root with saferoot you're going to want to install SafeStrap, that is if you want to install any ROMs , there's a list of SafeStrap compatible ROMs I'll get you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630040
And get familiar with Odin. You'll use that in the event your phone gets bricked
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realdog4 said:
I think I am about as new as they come when it comes to rooting or modifying a phone. Perhaps I shouldn't do anything. I will do what is safe, which is to read and then read some more.
I have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 with a mk2 build. I just wanted to check with the forum to see if I am on the right track.
First - I have enabled developer options and USB debugging. I download Fies and I think I have downloaded recent USB drivers. This is where I have stopped.
Second - I download safe root (not sure where) and root the phone.
Third - I would download safestrap for mk2. I think this would allow me to actually change factory settings.
It is my understanding that removing bloat ware or making simple changes can brick the phone so I am trying to see why you would undertake this entire endeavor.
Then there is Odin. I need to read up on this topic. I have no clue what purpose it serves.
Keeping in mind I have and will do nothing other than enable developer options, am I on the right track in terms of research?
Thanks in advance.
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As far as "trying to see why you would undertake this entire endeavor", well, that's an interesting question.
Rooting entails risk. You may ruin your phone if something goes wrong. The more that you do that takes advantage of being rooted, the more likely that something could go wrong. You use Odin to re-flash known good software to recover when an Oops happens.
So, you need to decide why you want to root. I'd say that most people root since it allows them the ability to install custom ROMs. Some do it to have the ability to remove unnecessary software ("bloat") from their phones. Some do it because it lets them back everything up and recover in the case of a problem.
If you don't want to customize, and are satisfied with the factory-included set of software, then there's little reason to root. Only you can decide if the abilities that rooting gives you are worthwhile or not.
I run a rooted, OEM stock phone, mostly because I'm re-flashing it a lot to test rooting software. Putting a lot of effort into customizing a custom ROM when you're re-flashing OEM every few days is not fun, so I stay stock. I ran hyperdrive using Safestrap for a while, however.
The phone is rooted to allow Titanium Backup to backup and restore for the most part. I've also frozen a couple of huge apps that want to push updates (NFL Mobile, for example.) Other than that, I could probably live without being rooted, but it would be frustrating.
Thank you for your reply.
I want to root in order to get rid of all the bloat ware.
The more I read, however, the more intrigued I have become with custom roms. That venture is not in the near future.
My immediate concern is that I have read if you freeze or delete some bloat ware programs, an update can brick your phone.
My phone will update without my permission or knowledge so I am bit weary. If I am incorrect about the bloat ware/brick issue please let me know.
Regardless - Take care and thanks to all.
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realdog4 said:
Thank you for your reply.
I want to root in order to get rid of all the bloat ware.
The more I read, however, the more intrigued I have become with custom roms. That venture is not in the near future.
My immediate concern is that I have read if you freeze or delete some bloat ware programs, an update can brick your phone.
My phone will update without my permission or knowledge so I am bit weary. If I am incorrect about the bloat ware/brick issue please let me know.
Regardless - Take care and thanks to all.
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once you obtain root, you can load titatanium backup and freeze the update packages...many threads around here that explain what how you can do it
realdog4 said:
Thank you for your reply.
I want to root in order to get rid of all the bloat ware.
The more I read, however, the more intrigued I have become with custom roms. That venture is not in the near future.
My immediate concern is that I have read if you freeze or delete some bloat ware programs, an update can brick your phone.
My phone will update without my permission or knowledge so I am bit weary. If I am incorrect about the bloat ware/brick issue please let me know.
Regardless - Take care and thanks to all.
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If you freeze applications, it won't brick after an OTA - the OTA will simply fail (at least on a Verizon phone). The update checks to verify that all of the files being updated are there and not tampered with before it starts updating.
I have noticed everyone is running MJ7. If memory serves me correct, the one exception with changing build is that you can run MJ7 over MK2 (my phone).
Should I run MJ7?
Once again, sorry for all the questions.
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I have noticed everyone is running MJ7. If memory serves me correct, the one exception with changing build is that you can run MJ7 over MK2 (my phone).
Should I run MJ7?
Once again, sorry for all the questions.
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MK2 is fine...
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I bought a 6P a couple weeks ago through a third party vendor. Unfortunately, it stalls when I start the login process. I've determined it's not software as I've downgraded from stock 7.1.1 to stick 6.0.1. It continues to do freeze and reboot. I've attempted several suggested fixes that I've found such as clearing the cache and factory resets, but there were no third party apps on the device to begin with. I'd rather not have to send the device back, but I'm not sure where else to go from here.
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I bought a 6P a couple weeks ago through a third party vendor. Unfortunately, it stalls when I start the login process. I've determined it's not software as I've downgraded from stock 7.1.1 to stick 6.0.1. It continues to do freeze and reboot. I've attempted several suggested fixes that I've found such as clearing the cache and factory resets, but there were no third party apps on the device to begin with. I'd rather not have to send the device back, but I'm not sure where else to go from here.
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Honestly sounds like it could be a hardware issue, have you tried just leaving it to sit before even trying to log in, or skipping the initial log in entirely?
Yes, I've tried a multitude of different approaches, every time it freezes and reboots.
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Yes, I've tried a multitude of different approaches, every time it freezes and reboots.
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Sounds like a motherboard issue to me. If you boot into fastboot and leave it sit does it still reboot?
Is there any sort of alterations on it or fully stock? I assume you could get to bootloader at least to downgrade?
Fully stock. I was able to get to the bootloader to side load without having to unlock it.
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Sounds like a motherboard issue to me. If you boot into fastboot and leave it sit does it still reboot?
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No, it doesn't reboot in the bootloader, I'm starting to think it's a corrupted memory issue.
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OK, so I did a final testing, as long as the phone isn't connected to any network, it will work properly, but the moment I'm connected to Wifi or mobile, it restarts.
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OK, so I did a final testing, as long as the phone isn't connected to any network, it will work properly, but the moment I'm connected to Wifi or mobile, it restarts.
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If it happens when you connect to WiFi then it could be interference so maybe try it somewhere else with WiFi.
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If it happens when you connect to WiFi then it could be interference so maybe try it somewhere else with WiFi.
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It occurs on mobile data as well, as I mentioned before. I am of the belief that the onboard memory is shot.
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It occurs on mobile data as well, as I mentioned before. I am of the belief that the onboard memory is shot.
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Maybe try a custom ROM and kernel or return it.
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I bought a 6P a couple weeks ago through a third party vendor. Unfortunately, it stalls when I start the login process. I've determined it's not software as I've downgraded from stock 7.1.1 to stick 6.0.1. It continues to do freeze and reboot. I've attempted several suggested fixes that I've found such as clearing the cache and factory resets, but there were no third party apps on the device to begin with. I'd rather not have to send the device back, but I'm not sure where else to go from here.
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Are you sure your bootloader is locked? Does it say device locked on the bootloader screen? How did you downgrade from 7.x to 6.x without flashing a full image... because you can't do that with a locked bootloader. If you are actually unlocked, try fastboot formatting the partitions (format vs erase) and then flash a full image again using flash-all.bat
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Are you sure your bootloader is locked? Does it say device locked on the bootloader screen? How did you downgrade from 7.x to 6.x without flashing a full image... because you can't do that with a locked bootloader. If you are actually unlocked, try fastboot formatting the partitions (format vs erase) and then flash a full image again using flash-all.bat
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Huawei walked me through side loading a full factory image without unlocking the bootloader.
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Huawei walked me through side loading a full factory image without unlocking the bootloader.
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Congratulations. You have managed to do what no one else has been able to, including talented developers. Side load a full factory image with a locked bootloader. Wow.
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Congratulations. You have managed to do what no one else has been able to, including talented developers. Side load a full factory image with a locked bootloader. Wow.
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Like I said, I was walked through it by Huawei. I should have written it down for everyone because I can't seem to do it again. However, referring to the actual issue with the phone, it's not software. It is obviously hardware and I will be returning the phone. I'm hoping they'll replace the motherboard and send it back.
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