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While reading the announcement that Amazon released the Kindle for $150, it made me think "why the hell does my Rezound cost $400 more than my 8gb Nexus 7?" Comparing it to the 16gb Nexus 7 the only things that the Nexus doesn't have is a rear facing camera and a cell (or two cell?) radio(s) and the Nexus has better hardware!
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While reading the announcement that Amazon released the Kindle for $150, it made me think "why the hell does my Rezound cost $400 more than my 8gb Nexus 7?" Comparing it to the 16gb Nexus 7 the only things that the Nexus doesn't have is a rear facing camera and a cell (or two cell?) radio(s) and the Nexus has better hardware!
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Simple, the Nexus 7 is a kamikaze move by Google. It literally costs more to make the device than what it is being sold for. Banking on the Play Store revenue from it and building brand recognition and loyalty in the consumer.
They want to maximize the market penetration of Android through that device, in the hopes that they can deter consumers away from new Apple and Microsoft devices later this year. People are more likely to select Android devices for their next smartphone or tablet after snatching up a Nexus 7; at least that is the bet.
Kamikaze price points are uncommon, big-picture marketing moves and shouldn't necessarily be compared to other devices as such.
Cell radios, GPS (unless the Nex7 has that), 342 PPI
But that doesn't seem to add up to anywhere near $400 more. However if you look at phones like the meizu MX quad, it has a quad core s4, adreno 320 and I think it has a 720p screen and its only $310 so maybe the huge price gap is about to change
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Its expensive to make stuff smaller than a tablet. Cost becomes exponential
I do agree though phones are super expensive
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brando56894 said:
While reading the announcement that Amazon released the Kindle for $150, it made me think "why the hell does my Rezound cost $400 more than my 8gb Nexus 7?" Comparing it to the 16gb Nexus 7 the only things that the Nexus doesn't have is a rear facing camera and a cell (or two cell?) radio(s) and the Nexus has better hardware!
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Its called selling at cost. Amazon and Google basically sell their tablets at or slightly below the cost to manufacture them for the reason stated. On the other hand HTC, Samsung, Apple and Motorolla have a huge markup on their phones, this is called profit and all companies do it. Some more than others, a 300% or 400% markup isn't that uncommon for high demand consumer goods. Verizon eats this markup (they also buy the phones at a lower wholesale cost) when they sell you a subsidized phone as they more than make it up on the plan they get you to sign to for 2 years.
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Cell radios, GPS (unless the Nex7 has that), 342 PPI
But that doesn't seem to add up to anywhere near $400 more. However if you look at phones like the meizu MX quad, it has a quad core s4, adreno 320 and I think it has a 720p screen and its only $310 so maybe the huge price gap is about to change
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It does have GPS, but others have hit the nail on the head. Not unlike Walmart, this is a loss leader due to the increased revenue streams in all of the things that go with it. They will see more revenue from books, magazines (maybe not :laugh, music, apps, etc. There is also the potential that many people will keep a tablet longer than the 18-24 months people keep phones. This limits the cash flow cell carriers so, so they have to recoup more up front.
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GPS (unless the Nex7 has that),
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Every phone has GPS.
Like kzoodroid said, the carriers play a huge role in pricing, and a lot of it has to do with contracts and subsidization. If HTC sold rezounds for $200 direct unlocked, and Verizon sold them for $200 with a two year contract, Verizon wouldn't have nearly as many customers locked down for several years. But effecting prices isn't the only thing the carriers do, they also build the networks that we rely on.
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Every phone has GPS.
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That's what I was saying. But the nexus 7 isn't a phone and I'm saying that GPS is part of why phones cost more than tablets.
But the nexus 7 might have a GPS, I'm not sure
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That's what I was saying. But the nexus 7 isn't a phone and I'm saying that GPS is part of why phones cost more than tablets.
But the nexus 7 might have a GPS, I'm not sure
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Most of the high end tablets have GPS for in car navigation and location services.
Also its not the hardware that makes a phone cost more, the iPhone 4S costs about $188 to make yet sold for $750 when it first came out. Thats a 300% profit for Apple. The iPad 4g costs them about $310 to make and they sold it for $629 which is only a 100% mark up. Its all about supply and demand, basic economics, there's a bigger demand for iPhones than iPads thus the larger profit margin.
Amazon and Google aren't the same as say Apple or Samsung as they aren't manufacturers, tehy don't need to make money off the device as they are more interested in selling content and advertising. They will take a loss to gain market share and sell you a **** load of content.
Let's be honest, it's so the carriers can sell "subsidized" phones and lock you into contracts.
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That's what I was saying. But the nexus 7 isn't a phone and I'm saying that GPS is part of why phones cost more than tablets.
But the nexus 7 might have a GPS, I'm not sure
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You edited your post.
You originally said "if the nex even has that".
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You originally said "if the nex even has that".
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I didn't edit my post...
Really, it is about the phone companies, and the subsidy. If you google 10 android devices you never heard of, they phones go for cheap overseas. Now some may argue that they fo for cheap because the manufacturer isn't well known, ect, but look at the bending problem with the HTC Evo LTe. We just get raped because of the American business model.
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Let's be honest, it's so the carriers can sell "subsidized" phones and lock you into contracts.
When a carriers set retail price it is marked up from what they pay. Not by a huge margin but 25 maybe 50 $'s. Not that your point may not be right but This is why if you look at tmo's retail price vs say a regional carrier Cincinnati bell for the same phone the retail value may be different... side note cinci bell sucks
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Really, it is about the phone companies, and the subsidy. If you google 10 android devices you never heard of, they phones go for cheap overseas. Now some may argue that they fo for cheap because the manufacturer isn't well known, ect, but look at the bending problem with the HTC Evo LTe. We just get raped because of the American business model.
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Most of the no name phones are Chinese. As an analogy a Chinese Rolex sells for $5 at the airport in Beijing, looks like the real thing but its whats inside that counts. Most of these cheap phones use cheap Chinese knock off hardware, why pay $50 for a Qualcomm or Samsung processor when you can pay the guy on the corner $5 for a knockoff. You get what you pay for.
for $5 ill take my chances
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Most of the no name phones are Chinese. As an analogy a Chinese Rolex sells for $5 at the airport in Beijing, looks like the real thing but its whats inside that counts. Most of these cheap phones use cheap Chinese knock off hardware, why pay $50 for a Qualcomm or Samsung processor when you can pay the guy on the corner $5 for a knockoff. You get what you pay for.
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I agree, but did you google the article I was talking about? Here, I will do it for you. If we go with that analogy, why do rezounds overheat, and EVO's bend.
http://www.androidauthority.com/the-best-android-smartphones-youve-never-heard-of-108102/
Tell me that the guts of these phones suck...
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I agree, but did you google the article I was talking about? Here, I will do it for you. If we go with that analogy, why do rezounds overheat, and EVO's bend.
http://www.androidauthority.com/the-best-android-smartphones-youve-never-heard-of-108102/
Tell me that the guts of these phones suck...
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Some of the guts seem great particularly the miui phone but as the article itself says the build quality is crap. How many terminator movies do you think there would have been if the terminators were built out of plastic, or worse Chinese metals?
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The m2 is made at.........wait for it.................Foxconn. Do you really think that they would cook up some super inferior plastic, and sell to miui? When talking about cheap plastic, aren't all phones made out of it? Rolex isn't made in the same factory as Casio. The knockoffs aren't made by the same factory as Rolex. The same peo pole, and some of the same equipment make the galaxy s3, the iPhones, and the M2. If you read the article,this phone was thrown in at the last second. The hardware, engineering, and manufacturing is what costs so much, Not the plastic shell. So if we follow this train of thought, I would assume(I know make an arse out of me and you) that the mark up for the big Oems, with their purchasing power would be significant. They could be selling these phones with aluminum bodies, and still be making money. I know this is the name of the game, but we are getting the short end of the stick. Doesnt Huawei make Motorola phones? One is a cheap knock off, and one is a American brand. Branding is what we make fun of sheeple for. And again, the Evo lte from Sprint has multiple complaints of the phone bending, literally bending. Even when it has a case on it. It was on the front page just a few hours ago. So how is the cheap plastic different than the cheap plastic of flagship phone? Hell, I am typing on my sons nook color which was made in foxconn. Don't kid yourself, we are all using products made as cheaply as possible by arthritic overworked Chinese. We are just paying for the name. Don't get me wrong, buying quality is important. I am not saying by an Archos tablet or anything. I just think that we as a whole are charged too much on the newest fad of smartphones.
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Who's being a giant douche trollolloll tonite?
^^^^^^^^^^^this guy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry for my rant.
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Folks who are getting the Galaxy Note 3 on Sprint who aren't being scared off by the FUD being spread in the triband thread, here's our own discussion topic!
Now that Sprint has officially announced the Galaxy Note 3 launch on October 4, let us discuss! It's kind of strange they haven't set up pre-orders yet. This leads me to believe they probably won't. With a little over a week left until the launch, it appears that those who order online won't be able to get it until October 7th/8th. Also heard rumors that Sprint won't have the pink option or 64GB version available. It sucks but oh well. At least 32GB is the base model this year!
What color are you getting?
Are you getting the Galaxy Gear smartwatch too?
Accessories?
-I'll be getting black, since white has LED light bleed.
-No Galaxy Gear
-I have two bumper cases (clear and white/black) and a crappy S-style tpu kickstand case with a few screen protectors. I'm not sure If I will get the flip cover yet.
Are you guys excited? I sure am!
Best buy has it for pre order now
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Damn for real? Best Buy has as reputation for marking up the retail price quite a bit though
Looks like their selling it for 349.
I'll be at the sprint store first thing next Friday morning! Can't wait!
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Just pre ordered at Bestbuy store... $50 for gift card... 4th is pick up day.... they said they would also have the new note 10.1 2014 in stock by then... will c
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Nice! Would you happen to know the full retail price of the phone at best buy?
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Damn for real? Best Buy has as reputation for marking up the retail price quite a bit though
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I bought my SGII Epic 4G Touch through them back in 2011. I bought it for the same price as directly from Sprint while convincing them to give me a discount equal to the activation fee (~$36) - essentially to "waive" it. I also accumulated some best buy reward zone points
Best Buy is a fine option when purchasing on contract if you can find a deal. I'd probably look elsewhere for off-contract and full-retail purchases, though.
staryoshi said:
I bought my SGII Epic 4G Touch through them back in 2011. I bought it for the same price as directly from Sprint while convincing them to give me a discount equal to the activation fee (~$36) - essentially to "waive" it. I also accumulated some best buy reward zone points
Best Buy is a fine option when purchasing on contract if you can find a deal. I'd probably look elsewhere for off-contract and full-retail purchases, though.
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Damn.... Yeah that's what I figured. I'd preorder it from there if the retail price marked way up
I plan on getting it in black. Want to get the smart veiw cover but ill get that on amazon. Do we know if it will have wireless charging?
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Folks who are getting the Galaxy Note 3 on Sprint who aren't being scared off by the FUD being spread in the triband thread, here's our own discussion topic!
Now that Sprint has officially announced the Galaxy Note 3 launch on October 4, let us discuss! It's kind of strange they haven't set up pre-orders yet. This leads me to believe they probably won't. With a little over a week left until the launch, it appears that those who order online won't be able to get it until October 7th/8th. Also heard rumors that Sprint won't have the pink option or 64GB version available. It sucks but oh well. At least 32GB is the base model this year!
What color are you getting?
Are you getting the Galaxy Gear smartwatch too?
Accessories?
-I'll be getting black, since white has LED light bleed.
-No Galaxy Gear
-I have two bumper cases (clear and white/black) and a crappy S-style tpu kickstand case with a few screen protectors. I'm not sure If I will get the flip cover yet.
Are you guys excited? I sure am!
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I have been doing a time analysis of how (email, calendar, social media, video's & gaming, music) and where (location) I use my phone the most etc..
I have come to the conclusion that the places where I happen to use my phone the most and during its most intense use of bandwidth also happens to be the places in which I have access to great wifi signal. I know this isn't how most folks use their phones but its really how I use my phone and when I don't usually have a great signal. I just pop out my mifi and I am having a great signal once again. Is it irritating that Sprint dropped the triband? Yup and Yup. Is it a deal breaker for me to go to a slower and smaller phone? Nope and Nope..
The things that I am more interested in hearing about is
What Dac are they using for the audio processor?
Can I use usb 3 as a digital for my audio amp?
What will the transfer speed be on my USB3 HD which is running a 500gb SSD
Battery life
Has anyone been able to use a 128GB sd card in the unit, and have it recognize all 128GB?
What screen protector works best in direct sunlight.
I wonder how the charging port lines up compared to the Note II. Hoping I can still use my Note II car cradle and charger
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I wonder how the charging port lines up compared to the Note II. Hoping I can still use my Note II car cradle and charger . ProClips
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The Note 3 for Sprint will be a world phone. Love it!
So after 3 years and 4 months since I've owned Sprint 4g phones, a new tower in the area went live with LTE. Here's to hoping it doesn't take another 3 years for the tower near my home to be upgraded. I'm ready for my Note III....
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The Note 3 for Sprint will be a world phone. Love it!
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How does that work exactly? Is there a GSM radio?
God I hope the gallery app isn't a laggy piece of crap again.. Even after disabling Facebook sync and all other sync options it was supper slow and laggy viewing photos in the app.
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How does that work exactly? Is there a GSM radio?
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Welll.....this is from a sprint document....I'm going to say..YES!
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Damn for real? Best Buy has as reputation for marking up the retail price quite a bit though
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just so you know. I havn't had a problem with best buy increasing price for products but if that is the case, they price match with the carriers. they also give you the lower price for pre-orders. for example if you order an item and its fairly certain it will retail for say $50 and then release rolls up and it is $60 they will sell it to you for the $50. you may just have to mention it to the employee checking you out but the managers know whats up.
Can't link to BB price match due to new user =) but google "Best buy price match" and it will be the first link
I have had to mention the PM once and the employee just had to get the manager to sign off on it which he had absolutely no prob doing. took maybe 2 min after I had mentioned it. then the lady behind me did the same thing because she was there for the same product for her son I would assume. (high end gaming headset)
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Welll.....this is from a sprint document....I'm going to say..YES!
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Yes all the GN3's have CDMA, GSM, and LTE from what I know of.
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I contacted the owner "Corey" from Trim Leather.
And he says he will have a line of cases out within 2 weeks for the Galaxy Note 3.
I know someone who has an Iphone case and the work is pretty awesome.
This will be my case for the GN3.
I have linked his page to the below.
https://www.facebook.com/trimleather
With the new one up program, if i am eligible for a upgrade, do i have to trade in my phone.? Id like to keep it for my daughter. Also what exactly do you pay for when doing this? Any money up front? I appreciate any advice or insight
I was very excited at the notion of getting my N3 today. I drive like a mad man to the Sprint store closest to my home. I was expecting to see SOME type of crowd...(2 p.m.).the store was absolutely empty! So I tell the rep that I want to buy the N3, she said they never got any, not even 1 for launch day? In fact, she said that during the morning conference call, there was no mention of the N3 at all, WTF? She didn't know model numbers or anything else about it, do people really hate the Samsung line that much? After driving to the 3rd Sprint store, I bought the only one that was shipped to their store. Overall, I'm kind of miffed that even the store reps aren't/weren't prepared, knowledgeable or even slightly enthusiastic about this launch, but I'm glad I got my phone!
i went straight to best buy and got mine this morning but they did say they had a limited quantity and no accessories.. so i went to the sprint store around the corner to get a case.
they were excited to see mine said they have never seen the phone and didnt get any in
Local Clearwater store had plenty. Despite all the hype of the Note 3, it's always a sleeper at the Sprint store. The same thing happened last year at the Note 2 launch, and that was even more of a bigger hype since it is the first time the Note series is available from Sprint.
You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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The sprint store here didn't receive theirs and one radioshack only got white ones while the other didn't get theirs at all. I just decided to order mine straight from sprint to avoid everything and to keep myself from being tempted into a white one.
No sign, accessories, or display model at the one i was at. However i was the 4th one sold within the hour.
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I had an appointment at Best Buy for 10:00 a.m. this morning. There weren't many people when I arrived but by the time I was done (took almost an hour!) there was a line of about a dozen people and and lots of talk about the Note 3.
Overall I am much more impressed with the look of the phone and the soft texture of the back; much better than I thought it might be based on many comments in the forums.
Best Buy also had the Galaxy Gear but it was tethered and the security device made the watch look so thick and impossible to test fit. The whole presentation did nothing to help sell the device. Overall from what I could see it looked nice but not for $300. I think Samsung and/or Best Buy really missed an opportunity by not offering some kind of Note/Gear bundle. Even $50 discount might have made me consider getting both.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
All the stores in Dallas/Ft.Worth got at least 10-20. I got there at 9am with 1 guy waiting and by the time i left after i kept telling the salesman i dont have to give them my phone that is not under contract..... I saw about 4 people leave the store with them.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
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We are smartphone enthusiasts. Sprint employees or corporate generally do not care. If they do, they would be working with Sony to push their XPERIA line. With a little encouragement and dealing, Sony will add a CDMA version. Look at the mistake with the uniband Note 3 and the lack of waterproof phone.
Get a couple of enthusiasts from XDA to the Sprint corporate board room and the company will be profitable real fast. Sprint corporate is often clueless just like the people at HP, just like the idiots at LG and HTC that decides their phone do not need an SD card. They make $5 mistake that cost them lots of unsold phones and hundreds of millions. Samsung don't have to beat them when they keep making stupid decision like that. Of course, this is just IMHO.
If I was managing the Sprint corporate store, you bet I will be promoting the Note 3 or any flagship phone launch with posters, display, cases, hooking it up to the smart dock, etc.. Look at the home page at Sprint. They are pushing the Iphones. Nothing wrong with that but they should be pushing any new flagship phone launch. They do not have the passion like the John Legre dude at T Mobile.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
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Thats because no one is trying to hear they only have one option for a plan. lol If you start advertising the Note 3 also people need to be informed that there plan is changing. People hate switching plans especially when the store reps even have a hard time explaining the new plans. Most people can care less about a new phone every yr. We are the minority. I personally thought you get $15 off the plan immediately. Then they tell me you have to wait 2 months. Just very confusing.
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Thats because no one is trying to hear they only have one option for a plan. lol If you start advertising the Note 3 also people need to be informed that there plan is changing. People hate switching plans especially when the store reps even have a hard time explaining the new plans. Most people can care less about a new phone every yr. We are the minority. I personally thought you get $15 off the plan immediately. Then they tell me you have to wait 2 months. Just very confusing.
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You have to wait 2 months for the 15$ off to kick in? They surely didn't tell me that.
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I pre ordered mine at the best buy in metro Detroit and had mine when I get off work at 2 pm. I got the black one
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I called sprint to get my upgrade today and the rep was asking me questions on how the galaxy gear worked. Lol.
He said they get a tiny ass powerpoint about the basics and that's it. When I worked for Apple (worst company), I would research online so that I knew everything. Better customer service, better results.
C'mon Sprint. Step your game up.
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Got mine and a Gear, I really like the Gear. It really compliments the Note.
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My Sprint store got the boxes from UPS as I arrived at 10am. They even had a Samsung Rep on hand doing Note 3 demos and Galaxy Gear. Cases were limited, all they had was the Body Glove case which is actually pretty nice. Overall this is a great phone and im so happy I exchanged my HTC One for this.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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My sentiments exactly. I dread going to my corporate sprint store. Yesterday, however, i was plesantly suprised that there was no traffic and i was served instantly upon walking into the store. TWICE. By 12 tho, it was filling up and i was glad i was finished.
It is very weird, regardless of what some will have you believe. I was first at one of my local stores to get one (was the only one in the store for the hour or so it took to futz with my account and activate the phone. Got there at store opening). They had not even taken them out of the shipping box yet. Had to go back to the store this morning and they said that I am still the only one to have gotten one. Inexplicable.
I realize the price bump to give preference to Apple (don't agree with it, but understand) but it's almost like Sprint didn't even want this phone to launch at all. Last to announce launch date. No marketing at all. With millions of Note and Note 2's sold, and several million Note 3's already sold world wide, I really can't figure out what's going on. I have seen companies do a lot of weird things, but whatever is going on with Sprint and the Note 3 is beyond me. Sprint's overall lineup of phones is horrendous anyway, getting a true flagship phone should be more of a big deal to them.
I have to say that I love this phone. Coming from a beat up Epic 4G Touch, this is like upgrading from a Pentium 4 to an i7. This is also the first time I have been able to use LTE and I love it.
There is a business aspect to this. Now trust me I don't want to give Sprint more credit than they deserve for being smart because at the retail level they are any thing but smart. However, the bigger push for Apple in all the stores may be a business decision and by design. If you recall, Sprint had to commit to hundreds of millions if dollars to Apple when they got the iPhone line.
Retail stinks anyhow for all manufacturers. I used to be a vp of salrs for a PC company and always felt like being held hostage to retail reps who can't add any value. I recall the days of ComputerLand when I got them to carry my new really cool laptop. There were two versions and we spent a lot of money and time training and motivating their retail team for the launch. I secret shopped the stores and when I asked the sales team what was the difference between model 1 and 2 he said $199 ....I was smart enough to calculate that myself ....the price was on the display.
Yesterday was another good example. I went to the Sprint store and there were no notes on display although they were in inventory. Then I drove to the Best Buy mobile store. Again nothing on display but a bunch in stock. Talked to store manager who said she was given a demo unit by Samsung a few days ago but didn't open it. She also had a Gear which she said she hasn't opened.
A Samsung experience in BestBuy stores is a good idea to help overcome the retail inefficiencies but ultimately we will pay the extra cost. No wonder internet commerce is a multi billion dollar channel
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There is a business aspect to this. Now trust me I don't want to give Sprint more credit than they deserve for being smart because at the retail level they are any thing but smart. However, the bigger push for Apple in all the stores may be a business decision and by design. If you recall, Sprint had to commit to hundreds of millions if dollars to Apple when they got the iPhone line.
Retail stinks anyhow for all manufacturers. I used to be a vp of salrs for a PC company and always felt like being held hostage to retail reps who can't add any value. I recall the days of ComputerLand when I got them to carry my new really cool laptop. There were two versions and we spent a lot of money and time training and motivating their retail team for the launch. I secret shopped the stores and when I asked the sales team what was the difference between model 1 and 2 he said $199 ....I was smart enough to calculate that myself ....the price was on the display.
Yesterday was another good example. I went to the Sprint store and there were no notes on display although they were in inventory. Then I drove to the Best Buy mobile store. Again nothing on display but a bunch in stock. Talked to store manager who said she was given a demo unit by Samsung a few days ago but didn't open it. She also had a Gear which she said she hasn't opened.
A Samsung experience in BestBuy stores is a good idea to help overcome the retail inefficiencies but ultimately we will pay the extra cost. No wonder internet commerce is a multi billion dollar channel
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I almost teared up reading this........ Everything you have stated is correct...
Sprint isn't a very effective VAR for Samsung products and I think they are in so deep with the fruit that they are beginning to regret their metric quotas they are obligated to meet on a quarterly basis in order to be in compliance with the distribution contract they signed in order to get into the very lucrative (Icraze) business model/ecosystem.
I wish Samsung would open a retail brick and mortar but the cult-ish following isn't near the same level as Apple.
So for the near future, we will have to go through the regular channels and hopefully the Samsung experience @ BB can get a foothold and become a starting off point for something better and a more customer orientated experience for Samsung users.
Have you guys registered your devices on Samsung's website? I had my S3, S4 and now my Note 3 registered on their site and just like before they send an email with a 50% discount code on accessories below $49.99. Sucks though that the site don't have a lot of accessories for the N3 and the S-view cover isn't qualified since it's priced at $59.99. But if you want to purchase some accessories like an extra S-pen or batteries, i think 50% is a good deal. :good:
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Have you guys registered your devices on Samsung's website? I had my S3, S4 and now my Note 3 registered on their site and just like before they send an email with a 50% discount code on accessories below $49.99. Sucks though that the site don't have a lot of accessories for the N3 and the S-view cover isn't qualified since it's priced at $59.99. But if you want to purchase some accessories like an extra S-pen or batteries, i think 50% is a good deal. :good:
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Yea its good to save for when you lose the pen, cable or charger and want to replace with the real thing.
registered mine just now, got the code about 30 seconds after. they have a lot of stuff but most is over $50. Was looking for a battery but they dont have any. ill check back later since they give you 90 days to use your code.
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Have you guys registered your devices on Samsung's website? I had my S3, S4 and now my Note 3 registered on their site and just like before they send an email with a 50% discount code on accessories below $49.99. Sucks though that the site don't have a lot of accessories for the N3 and the S-view cover isn't qualified since it's priced at $59.99. But if you want to purchase some accessories like an extra S-pen or batteries, i think 50% is a good deal. :good:
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Yes, I got it and immediately realized the S-View Cover was $10 over. :/
Breach said:
Yes, I got it and immediately realized the S-View Cover was $10 over. :/
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do u have the link?
poisonsushi319 said:
do u have the link?
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her's the link for the black one.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EF-CN900BBESTA
Shawheim said:
registered mine just now, got the code about 30 seconds after. they have a lot of stuff but most is over $50. Was looking for a battery but they dont have any. ill check back later since they give you 90 days to use your code.
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Here is your battery!
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-B700BUBEBUS
Well I was looking for a battery but didnt find there...I dnt why Samsung is not stocking up the batteries for Note 3 but still I bought one S-view..which a pleasure to have..so come on Samsung I want a battery too....
Jimmy2u said:
Well I was looking for a battery but didnt find there...I dnt why Samsung is not stocking up the batteries for Note 3 but still I bought one S-view..which a pleasure to have..so come on Samsung I want a battery too....
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I believe what MACHEK posted is on samsung's site. I think the Note 3 is the only one using the 3200ma battery right now, might be wrong though...
Does this only work on the US Samsung site?
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I believe what MACHEK posted is on samsung's site. I think the Note 3 is the only one using the 3200ma battery right now, might be wrong though...
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Pretty sure that's the battery, it's listed right under note 3 accessories, and has a nfc Chip.
thankful for the coupon, but slightly disappointed. at least i bought the allshare cast last year, but with chromecast it now is solely used to mirror the device.
i will get a battery/charger for the wife's s4 and one for my N3 when they come out.
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I believe what MACHEK posted is on samsung's site. I think the Note 3 is the only one using the 3200ma battery right now, might be wrong though...
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No, according to their site this battery is only for the Mega
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You can go to www.tmart.com and they have some note 3 accessories for cheap. They have tons of accessories for other phones too.
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I still have 50% off codes from my s3 or s4 or note 2 idk which one but still waiting to use on battery charger
Just wanna say thanks for bringing this up! Got a Note 3 off of Craigslist that was missing the S Pen so I registered and got a genuine one for 50% off! Now I don't have to worry about getting a fake one off of eBay!
Thoughts? Look at the pricing and availability towards the bottom of the page.
Says October 11th and $498. Seems like the legit Samsung site.
http://www.samsung.com/sg/news/local/samsung-gear-s-and-gear-circle-enhances-the-smart-wearable-experience
Is that only a Singapore date?
That's what I'm wondering, either way gives me hope of a US October release. Personally I'd like to grab my 4 and Gear S at the same time, like I did last year with my Note 3, Gear and Note 10.1 2014 in one purchase, made for an overwhelmingly good, fun night lol. But I'd like to kick start my Note 4 with a Gear S attached to it.
that`s about what $400 US?
No idea, I'd pay it though! Just need some US info, I'm more excited about the watch than any other device right now.
As much as I want one. I need to see a full review with a production model.
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As much as I want one. I need to see a full review with a production model.
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Eh, most product reviews are usually by idiots in my opinion that have no idea what they are looking at, I realized this last year with the Gear 1, people are still referencing uneducated early reviews about the Gear 1 when talking about the Gear S, I'm still using my Gear 1 that was "so horrible on battery" lol and its awesome on battery.
The reviewers usually know much less than we but occasionally proved useful information.
We still need to know full specs and capabilities.
Agreed, I'm a huge fan of reviews and unboxing videos prior to a purchase but I take them with a grain of salt and worst case scenario I just most stores return policy.
I find it odd that this watch is released before the Note 4 or Edge.
Based upon the leaked Australian pricing, the Gear S USA would be around $375. My guess is they round that to $350 which would make it about $15 a month on a 2 year non-binding agreement or maybe $100 on a 2 year contract.
Finally read the give print on the att site and got an idea of how they plan to set up the gear s. Figured I'd share for any that didn't know.
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Finally read the give print on the att site and got an idea of how they plan to set up the gear s. Figured I'd share for any that didn't know.
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I think that is a bit misleading. If the watch is 3G and has a sim card, you will be able to receive SMS directly without a cell phone. I think what they are trying to say is that you will be able to add your Gear S to an existing Smartphone Contract but you won't be able to have the Gear S as your only phone.
We'll see. A lot of confusing info out there. Would be nice of them to just give a for sale date and price though.
Saw a UK site (Sky News) saying they are taking pre orders at £349 !!!
Yes £'s
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Saw a UK site (Sky News) saying they are taking pre orders at £349 !!!
Yes £'s
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That includes VAT and of course everything always costs more in England. We also don't know if that site is gouging people or not. My guess is $350 USD.
Lol I'm just getting frustrated with the mobile carriers and Samsung, Samsung did this last year with the Note 10.1 2014 all hush hush until a week before it's for sale, stupid move in my opinion especially for high end expensive products, if someone doesn't make a lot of money and they try to save they don't know how much or for how long, or if they are really in the market for something (ie; like me with a tablet last year, I really wanted the new note 10.1 but had to wait almost two months for just a release date, and I almost bought a different non Samsung tablet instead, luckily for Samsung and myself I held out) but to think that most people can just drop $4-500 on a watch or $7-800 on a tablet on their next paycheck like that, is just stupid and is what's killing their first week sales. I've had my Note 4, VR and especially my Gear S money sitting in a jar just piling up since IFA I've probably accumulated double what everything will cost, but then again I'm not sure lol, I'm sure I'll find out 3 days before it's time to finally get one and hopefully I have enough, or still want it.
I'm not sure who, Samsung or the cell companies, lol but for Christ sakes give people time to plan and not string them along for months with not even a rough estimate of price or what were in for as far as if it's another monthly phone charge. We're 25% through October and still nothing, I'm all about Samsung products so I'll hold out, but how many people do you think won't? And Samsung wonders why their profits are down 40 something percent since last year. Hate to say it, because I hate Apple as a whole, but they were shipping a week after announcing, hit em while it's hot, Samsung yet again announces and let's the oven cool, most people would of scooped this off the shelves soon after IFA because of all the buzz, wait two months and hear nothing about it again most people will move on and probably grab a Moto 360 or something, so Samsung is just hurting themselves.
I personally am not the type who gets more excited over months of anticipation, I get annoyed and frustrated, but I swear by Samsung products, how about the people who don't? That are willing to try them out over the new iPhone, but weren't willing to wait forever and just say screw it and grab the iPhone? There's your numbers Samsung, there's your profits.
I wish they'd Stop trying to beat Apple and worry about stealing their users, it won't happen, they're brainwashed and are not worried about specs or bang for their buck, spoke could release the iTurd and those kids would ready it up, so worry about the people who are diehard Samsung fans, they keep the lights on, I've personally converted about 5 iPhone users to Samsung s5's and Note 3's and will continue to do so.
If they keep us happy, we'll do more marketing then any reviewer or competitive release date will.
Lol so let's get some friggin' info already.
Side note (no pun intended):
I fear the day Samsung stops making removable backs with swappable batteries and micro sd card slots! they did it on the alpha, which I almost considered picking up to have as a side phone to my Note 4 until I saw no expandable memory, next goes the removable back and then we got an android (or Tizen) iPhone which is the opposite of what I want in a smartphone. I honestly won't buy a phone that I can't remove the battery or especially doesn't have expandable memory. The only ones really complaining about the plastic are people that use iPhones and don't plan to buy a Samsung anyways, 3 Notes deep, 4th in a few weeks and I've never had a problem with the plastic. We don't want iPhones Samsung, and iPhone users don't want anything besides an iPhone.
Nice!!!!
The at&t site has full specs up but no release date yet. We know that it'll be a "connected device" meaning $10/mo on mobile share plans & I'm guessing you'll have you have a phone on the plan even if you don't want it. The samsung ppl hinted that the calling/sms features will be tied into GVoice but that's just conjecture. It sounds like it'll either have something to do with hangouts, or an app on your phone that forwards everything to the watch under certain conditions.
I'm not saying i know, just guessing based on all the bits on info I've been given by the 2 companies. I'm wondering how it'll be added to grandfathered family plans, if at all.
But can we just use it like we use the 1st gear and gear 2 connected via Bluetooth?
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