I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
I like it better at the bottom. You can play with your phone while listening to music without the cord being in the way.
I always put my phone in my pocket upside down face back. Works perfect with the jack on the bottom
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Yea I hate the Headphone jack at the bottom cause you have to put it in your pocket upside down, but it makes the overall appearance of the phone sexy (hiding all the ports at the bottom. Plus I would assume it helps with keeping junk out. It is also nice, as stated above, that the cord hangs down when in hand without putting stress on the jack.
Anyway just go bluetooth. You're just listening to music, not creating a mobile recording studio. G2 + $15 BT Speaker = Bliss
I'm pretty sure this isn't a DESIGN FLAW since it was actually created this way... on all 23 G2 Variants....
There are Pros and Cons for each way. No real winner. Bottom gets my vote since the Pocket Upright argument is the only reason for it being on the top.
I prefer it at the bottom because my phone goes in my pocket upside down.
I, too prefer it at the bottom. My phone always go in my pocket upside down and it's more convenient for me that way. I wouldn't consider it a design flaw.
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I prefer it at the bottom because my phone goes in my pocket upside down.
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I remember Sammy tried to humiliate Apple because of this. It's really difficult to adjust to new things, but I like rear buttons though. My every device had/have headphone jack at the top. We'll see after a week or two, maybe my opinion will be different.
What wrong with the headphone jack locates in the bottom?
I thought it is perfect and very well-thought.
In fact, placing the jack on the top is just plain stupid.
a. listening music where the phone in the pocket, who care it's upside down or versa?
b. in the car, on the phone holder, using headset, in the bottom. Perfect. Who would want the headset cord hangs around from the top?
c. Jack at the bottom and on way to the left is even better since it has no interfere with phone holder's cradle.
It's well-thought well-made device.
I like the fact that the jack and the charging port are both on the same side, makes much more sense this way, especially if you use your phone in your car and have a dedicated stand for it. No other phone of mine except the Galaxy S had this layout.
I love it.
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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I remember Sammy tried to humiliate Apple because of this. It's really difficult to adjust to new things, but I like rear buttons though. My every device had/have headphone jack at the top. We'll see after a week or two, maybe my opinion will be different.
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Still waiting for your opinion on why it's a design flaw...
This is definitely not a flaw. Just an opinion. I love it because I can put it upside down in my pocket, so it is a more natural motion when pulling it back out.
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with the buttons on the top back it makes perfect sense to put the headphone jack to the bottom, the phone slides nice in the pocket and the cable doenst get in the way at all. with this orientation it feels also more natural to press the buttons while the phone is in the pocket.
It's a little strange using corded headphones if I have my phone in a stand on my desk, but I picked up the Tone+ BT headset and pretty much exclusively use that now, so it's not much of an issue.
TBH I never thought about putting my phone in my pocket upside-down. If I grab it out of my coat pocket and it's upside-down, I groan a bit.
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Still waiting for your opinion on why it's a design flaw...
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Most MP3 players, like SanDisk Sansa series (Okay, okay, we can forget Apple and iPods), have headphone jack at the top. Sometimes on the side, but not at the bottom. It's tradition. Like gas and brake pedals in the cars. Great analogy, I think. You bought a car and see, that gas and brake pedals are in different position, than normal. Not a design flaw at all from car manufacturer! Innovation! I will try to write with left hand tomorrow too and will blame pencils makers, because I'm in 85% population.
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TBH I never thought about putting my phone in my pocket upside-down. If I grab it out of my coat pocket and it's upside-down, I groan a bit.
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Exact! I'm never putting my phone in my pocket upside down too. In any case, LG G2 will make me to do that.
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Most MP3 players, like SanDisk Sansa series (Okay, okay, we can forget Apple and iPods), have headphone jack at the top. Sometimes on the side, but not at the bottom. It's tradition. Like gas and brake pedals in the cars. Great analogy, I think. You bought a car and see, that gas and brake pedals are in different position, than normal. Not a design flaw at all from car manufacturer! Innovation!
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Those are mp3 players. Put you're phone in you're pocket upside down. Pull it out and put it to you're ear. Is it the right way?
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rquinn19 said:
Those are mp3 players. Put you're phone in you're pocket upside down. Pull it out and put it to you're ear. Is it the right way?
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Read, I've written more. As I said, I will try to write with left hand tomorrow. 15% people doing that.
My point is simple. Sammy devices at the top. HTC One at the top. Sony Xperia Z1 at the top. Even Nokia at the top.
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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your foolishness just brought me to the realization that this forum only has happy smilies available. i was looking for something to shame you with. i did not find what i sought.
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I'm not from the moon. I saw LG G2 reviews, but missed design flaw! What flaw? Apple like headphone jack at the bottom. Jesus Christ...
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LG wireless Bluetooth headphones...problem solved.
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That's not a design flaw. That's a personal taste as to where you think the headphone jack should be placed.
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My point is simple. Sammy devices at the top. HTC One at the top. Sony Xperia Z1 at the top. Even Nokia at the top.
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so just because others do something, everybodyelse should do the same?
I like the headphone jack on the bottom, because as mentioned before - you put you phone upside down in your pocket you just take it out and have it in the right position to continue working/operating the phone - no changing of position required.
what i like even more - both the micro-usb port and the headphone jack are on the same side of the phone - that's something I was looking for for a long time now.
if u put your phone in a pocket with the top up. u have to rotate it in your hand.
this way it's perfect. just grab it and unlock
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Hello everyone
I got my Wing couple weeks ago, but I just got to testing the headset/earbuds that came with it. Anyways, when I opened them, it looks like one string of an earbud is shorter then the other. So the middle piece with volume control on it is not centered in the middle, which is very uncomfortable. I didn't find any way to adjust it. Anyone else has the same problem, or am I on the only one with "faulty" earbuds? Please respond. I purchased online through Business Services on a current deal. If I take it to T-Mobile store, will they replace? Thanks a lot.
It really is a crappy design flaw but thats the way they come. With the weight of the volume control on one side of the headphones, that side tends to fall out of my ear. Really sorry design on they're part.
I'd say go with the bluetooth stereo headsets. The sound quality is better and you dont have to worry about the faulty wires being in the way. I invested in one the other day and come to find out other than listening to music, they also pick up calls. You can find good deals on ebay.
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It really is a crappy design flaw but thats the way they come. With the weight of the volume control on one side of the headphones, that side tends to fall out of my ear. Really sorry design on they're part.
I'd say go with the bluetooth stereo headsets. The sound quality is better and you dont have to worry about the faulty wires being in the way. I invested in one the other day and come to find out other than listening to music, they also pick up calls. You can find good deals on ebay.
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Thanks for the explanation. Can you tell me which ones you got? Just currious!
The ones I picked up are made by Motorola. Check the ones I bought on this link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MOTOROLA-HT820-BLUETOOTH-STEREO-HEADSET-HT-820_W0QQitemZ290181398683QQihZ019QQcategoryZ133229QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There's also a few diferent types to choose from. Just do a search for Bluetooth Stereo Headsets and you'll see.
You do realize most headphones are like this now, just grab a set of ipod headphones and you'll know what I mean.
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You do realize most headphones are like this now, just grab a set of ipod headphones and you'll know what I mean.
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That sucks! Whoever came up with this idea should be forced to wear these headphones for the rest of their life!
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That sucks! Whoever came up with this idea should be forced to wear these headphones for the rest of their life!
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I agree completely. It's always felt awkward to me.
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Hello everyone
I got my Wing couple weeks ago, but I just got to testing the headset/earbuds that came with it. Anyways, when I opened them, it looks like one string of an earbud is shorter then the other. So the middle piece with volume control on it is not centered in the middle, which is very uncomfortable. I didn't find any way to adjust it. Anyone else has the same problem, or am I on the only one with "faulty" earbuds? Please respond. I purchased online through Business Services on a current deal. If I take it to T-Mobile store, will they replace? Thanks a lot.
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the longer one is supposed to go around the back of your neck... bet bluetooth is way better i like these ones because you can use any 3.5mm headphones you like.
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the longer one is supposed to go around the back of your neck... bet bluetooth is way better i like these ones because you can use any 3.5mm headphones you like.
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Can you just give us the model number? Or possibly a valid item# for the once you like? Link is not working (item removed). Thanks...
The model number is BCK-08. they have a bunch of 'em listed
Ummmm, it's not a defect!
Guys you do realize that there is a perfectly logical reason for this right??? Well, since you don't...LOL... Well, it's because the short side goes into one ear, and the other wraps around the back of you neck, so that they fit comfortably... The ear buds are labled, just follow the instructions above and everything should come together for you... They're not defective guys...
Yeah, thanks! Weird!
i agree... its done purpose fully.. not a defect
I still think it's a bad design because the side with the mic always gets knocked out of my ear or the mic gets caught on something, zipper, collar, button. I'm left-handed, so at least with symmetrical buds I don't have to be reminded that it's a right-handed world.
Be careful with bluetooth, the wing isn't really designed as a music player, even though it can do it. I got some bluetooth headphones made by insignia that work flawlessly with my partner's Samsung Upstage, but have this crackle with my Wing, only when playing music, and no, the sound files are fine, it's the wing's bluetooth connection that's messed up.
Have you tweaked the bluetooth stack (the bitrate and such) for better quality?
Hi,
Am I the only one here who always struggles to find a good way to store my headphones? I usually wrap them around themselves, but this normally leads to kinks in the cables and a mass of knots
I just spotted something called "Cable Turtles". I can't believe how simple they are, or more importantly, that I have never seen them before!!
I have just ordered a small black one from here
When it arrives I will post my thoughts on it.
Cheers
Zippyioa
Boy, those looks brilliant indeed. Will order one, I too have had some problems with where to store the cable. I hate wrapping
Bloomin' Royal Mail strikes have delayed the delivery of this fine product.
As soon as it arrives I will post my views for anyone who is interested!
Cheers
Zippyioa
Did you get these and how did you get on with them?
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Did you get these and how did you get on with them?
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Hi B&B,
They did arrive in the end (thanks Royal Mail!).
Overall I love them, however I think that the small ones, despite being listed as "for headphones" are too small. They hold the cable fine, but they are not large enough to encase the whole headphone (see picture)
If I ordered again I would probably go for the medium size to be honest.
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Zippyioa
whatever happened to those things that your earphones came in that you wind up
this is back in the walkman days like 1997
pretty much all earphones used to come sold with one of those things
soggybiscuit said:
whatever happened to those things that your earphones came in that you wind up
this is back in the walkman days like 1997
pretty much all earphones used to come sold with one of those things
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Like these??
They are hard to find nowadays! AND the flat volume control bit on the headphones stops them rotating so they dont work for Hero headphones :-(
zippyioa said:
Like these??
They are hard to find nowadays! AND the flat volume control bit on the headphones stops them rotating so they dont work for Hero headphones :-(
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yeah!!! those things!
oh i didnt know there was a volume control on the hero headphones. didnt even open the bag or look at them. I figured id just use my cheap sennheiser cx300 anyway.
I actually bought the medium one and the headphones fit just about right. Could be a bit bigger as its a tight fit, but overall it works fine. Large would probably be overkill
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Hi Prime users,
I'm a litte surprised there are no threads about this here.
I'm pleased with the general audio quality - feels a little like force feedback in games
BUT
I am totally irritated by the fact that the audio only comes from the right edge of the Prime. This is really driving my ears crazy.
What about you? Use headphones? External speakers? Got used to it?
I'd just like to know how you think on this one.
Regards,
pintness
It bothers me as well.
I didn't care really.. I agree that it would be better to have speakers like the TF101 (1 on each side).
I love the sound quality, but yeah it is uncomfortable unless you watch videos in portrait mode.
it bothers me a little bit. Mainly when I'm playing back something with sound and I can barely hear it due it's single speaker blowing out from the back.
From a design standpoint, ASUS should have at least included the left speaker on the left-bottom of the Keyboard Dock. It would have made more sense, making the tablet whole with it's keyboard dock accessory than not including no left channel audio at all. But oh well.
in fact it is a stereo speaker
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in fact it is a stereo speaker
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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But... why would Asus do that? I mean, if they put in stereo speakers, why not put them in correct place? This looks like a really poor design decision to me.
If only they would put more effort into function than design...
I have an Acer Iconia A500, which has stereo speaker on the back, too.
General problem with those is that treble sounds aren't reflected well and you can't hear them at all, except when you hold the tablet in that ONE special position and form a cone with your hands.
At first it really bothered me (coming from the TF101) but now I can manage...
The quality IS a whole lot better compared to TF101 though, making up for it. Still really no idea what they were thinking here though.
I agree...weird but it is excellent quality.
I am more bothered by the fact that the speaker faces away from the user instead of towards the user. This means that most of the volume the tablet can put out is wasted unless you have some kind of sound reflector behind the tablet.
I know this is common among thin touchscreen devices, but to me it never stops being a source of minor annoyance.
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Indeed it is, but without proper stereo separation it is a little bizarre.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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therefore it is NOT stereo but mono.
Come on, that's audio 101. If it's outputing both left and right channel from one single speaker it's NOT Stereo.
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There are two speakers ... they just are side-by-side under that single perforation.
Lame I know, but ....
What I would have liked is to have the dock have speakers integrated (facing "up") with some separation.
That way, the tab alone could service headphones, but when docked and sitting open, it would have a better stereo experience without headphones.
definitely found it pretty weird for awhile but used to it now.
If I'm on the road, I use my headphones to block out sound and avoid annoying others.
If I'm at home, I'll plug it into my stereo speakers. If I ever use the built-in speaker, it's probably for unimportant stuff that doesn't really require good sound quality.
Never a problem
Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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This is sort of a tangent, but if you're just holding the Prime and viewing/listening to something yourself, the way you hold the Prime can make a significant difference in how loud it is. The speaker is right at the right hand edge, if you hold it where the speaker is, and sorta cup your hand around the speaker grill, you can direct the sound to reflect off your hand and bounce it towards yourself.
It works surprisingly well and there's no need to install/root or whatever.
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Posted this elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone mentioning it, so perhaps it bears repeating:
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^ It helps.
Official cover
The thing that annoys me the most is that if you have the official Asus origami cover and use the flat slightly angled fold, it covers the speaker. And yes I agree that having the speaker face away from the user is a bizarre idea.
I found it hard not to cover it when holding in landscape, but once adjusting it actually sounds pretty good.
I think the quality is pretty impressive. Maybe a benefit from B&O working on their laptops.
I've found if you hold it in the right hand landscape mode then with a certain position it reflects the sound so that it appears to come from the left too.
To be honest if watching a film I would probably switch to headphones.
I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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use headphones
I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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Thank you for your wonderful useful tip. So I am only allowed to play a game with sound when I plug in headphones. Great practical advice from you! I like to see you hold the phone with the headphone plug digging into your finger too! I know because I made a mockup of the phone and held it in gaming grip.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
It would be more practical on the back but in terms of design it looks uglier. That's why they put the speakers on the bottom. My Atrix has its speaker on the back and it is much better than when I had an iPhone.
Speakers never bothered me on the iphone 4s when I had it for 6 months so I don't see it as a design flaw here. I am terribly concerned about the size and weight though. I know that the older Lumia phones are thicker but it definitely does not look that way. The 920 looks HUGE and that is saying a lot since I currently have a GS3.
I hope that my concerns disappear after handling or I might have to get an HTC 8x, which I really want to avoid after owning two crappy HTC One X phones.
Personally I kind of like the thickness. Gives it substance. I have held ultra thin phones and think that I'll break them. Speaker placement to me doesn't matter as long as they sound good. I just hope it's more water tolerable than the L900. Saw the torture test on c|net and it wasn't pretty.
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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No, tboy is right. They are on both sides.
The 800 also has the speaker on the bottom. It doesn't bother me since I have a light grip on it when I play.
Anyway I think there are always some problems with the placement of the speakers. There is just no perfect solution. If you put it on the back then some people will complain that the sound will get muffled while it's placed on it's back e.g on the bed or the couch. If you wanna put it on the side then you are forced to put one on both sides but most windows phones have 3-4 buttons on one side and adding a speaker would make it look really cluttered and one may end up being muffled again. Top has the same problem as bottom and front wouldn't just work because of aesthetics.
I personally think that the speakers on the bottom are the lesser evil compared to the other options.
The speaker is placed on the bottom is actually a good idea.
With the iPhone it was placed on the bottom due to the alarm, so that the sound would not get blocked.
I always place my phone (s3) upside down just to hear my alarm better , Since I'm a deep sleeper.
The Lumia 920 has no flaws. It was designed hand manufactured by the hand of god. Just kidding. Speaker placement is actually very fine with me. It's more of a preference issue that you brought up. Cnet's torture test of the 900 shows that it will die from water. That should be an indication of what to expect. Then again, it's the only phone I know that you can hammer a nail with and still be fine. The 920 is supposed to be even tougher. So if my phone drowns... At lest I'll still be able to fix thins around the house with it. LOL. Most indestructible phone design I've seen so far was the Galaxy S3. Survive a washer cycle with ease.
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is the headphone jack on the bottom. While I was listening to music is was hard to type with the keyboard. Anyone else feel this was a bad placement of the jack?
But that is all so far, I'm really liking this LG device.
No complaints here
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is the headphone jack on the bottom. While I was listening to music is was hard to type with the keyboard. Anyone else feel this was a bad placement of the jack?
But that is all so far, I'm really liking this LG device.
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I prefer my headphone jack on the bottom because I naturally put my phone in my pockets (back or front) upside down.
Many people prefer it on the bottom apparently. Something about going head first into a pocket as the most natural way to stow it. Personally, I could care less.
I agree with jonathan, the headphone jack on the bottom is infinitely better imo.
So I guess noone types when they are listening to something with headphones lol. Maybe its just me then, not really complaining. Its minor, did I already mention I like this device. I dont even mind LG's ui, didnt even install my nova launcher. Prefer it tons over touchjizz.
Yeah I hate it. It's awkward at gym to put on machine has to go upside down so cannot use screen.
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I'm excited about it. Haven't seen that feature on a phone since the hd2.
The head phone jack is on the bottom of the iPhone 5. Maybe that is why I hate it lol.
I thought the bottom was dumb until I started plugging phone into car stereo, plus power plug. It is pretty awkward with a cord coming out top and one out bottom. But other than that, I would prefer on top.
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is the headphone jack on the bottom. While I was listening to music is was hard to type with the keyboard. Anyone else feel this was a bad placement of the jack?
But that is all so far, I'm really liking this LG device.
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Nope. The bottom is where the headphone jack should go.
Op, are u left handed? I could see frustration from a left handed user. Lol.
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