Hey, not sure if it matters, but my device is: Kruger&Matz KM 974 tablet (PIPO)
- Some apps, like all kinds of RootChecker's from google play, says that I have no root
- CPU-Z (mobile) says that I have root
- AVG antivir (mobile) says theres root
- Avast! says there isnt
Which app would be most reliable?
How to check it without apps?
Thanks.
Hope its allowed to bump from time to time? It moved to 2nd page pretty quick.
maybe you can see in superuser or supersu apps ..make sure the su binary is installed correctly
ali.filth said:
maybe you can see in superuser or supersu apps ..make sure the su binary is installed correctly
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Could it be that its "rooted" (in the meaning of not locked), but without superuser app? So some apps checking for superuser (which isnt here) reporting its not rooted while others checking something else saying it is?
Kinda new to this, but could simply installing the superSU app solve the issue? Or well, could it actually break something if its installed on non rooted device?
Sorry for dumb questions but im really an first time android user
z4x said:
Could it be that its "rooted" (in the meaning of not locked), but without superuser app? So some apps checking for superuser (which isnt here) reporting its not rooted while others checking something else saying it is?
Kinda new to this, but could simply installing the superSU app solve the issue? Or well, could it actually break something if its installed on non rooted device?
Sorry for dumb questions but im really an first time android user
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The apps are for rights management, for you to control which apps get su access and which apps don't.
You should be able to su from a terminal without the apps, but if you can, remember that other apps can do so as well without you knowing.
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z4x said:
Hey, not sure if it matters, but my device is: Kruger&Matz KM 974 tablet (PIPO)
- Some apps, like all kinds of RootChecker's from google play, says that I have no root
- CPU-Z (mobile) says that I have root
- AVG antivir (mobile) says theres root
- Avast! says there isnt
Which app would be most reliable?
How to check it without apps?
Thanks.
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you can try the method from my group and let me know
What do you want to use root for ?
try the app that requires root (Titanium Backup? ROM Manager? etc? ), if it works, then you have root, if not, then not... who cares what the checker apps say....
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Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
pmcnano said:
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.
Hi guys, I just found that I can install Non-market apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
Sorry for mentioning Ck'ed app, how do I edit the title then?
sacredabyss said:
Hi guys, I just found that I can install cracked apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
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No discussion of warez allowed on forums. Cracked apps = warez
But to answer your question, root is not necessary to install apps.
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sacredabyss said:
Hi guys, I just found that I can install Non-market apps on my non-rooted non-s-off GSM E3D via a third party computer suite(with unkown source checked).
I was surprised as I thought without root I can't install non-market apps & games.
So my question is: Is root absolutely required if I want to side load game & apps I downloaded in my computer? Confused.
Sorry for mentioning Ck'ed app, how do I edit the title then?
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Needless to say you're probably not aware of Amazon's apps, or the spy ware infested apps at some sites. Appbrain is available as an alternative site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983859.
So this is the affect of apple's closed app store policy, "guilt by inference".
I thought root was required because I was tring to use titanium backup to restore apps from my HD2 and it pops up saying that I need to have root.
Now I can wait more time for the s-off + root then.
sacredabyss said:
I thought root was required because I was tring to use titanium backup to restore apps from my HD2 and it pops up saying that I need to have root.
Now I can wait more time for the s-off + root then.
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I think that is because you need root to backup application data..
OP: With android, you can install any APK you find online.
Android can write to data, while other apps can only write to data for that app only. TB is trying to write other apps data, this is why it fails.
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I have to install citrix mobile connect to connect to the Exchange server at work, and citrix will not run on a rooted device
is there a way to overcome this or perhaps install a different app to receive exchange sync?
(for example will "hide root" work here)?
You can try voodoo rootkeeper that can perform a temporary unroot.
I will start with this thread and see if blocks the exchange sync, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
I hope rooting doenst erase my data, as I am already working for a week with the device.
Anyway, I will run titnium backup before I start
ofird said:
I will start with this thread and see if blocks the exchange sync, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
I hope rooting doenst erase my data, as I am already working for a week with the device.
Anyway, I will run titnium backup before I start
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titanium backup needs root
just found that out
So - any other ROM back up program out there that doesnt neet root?
or perhaps i dont have to worry about losing data with CFAuto root?
ofird said:
just found that out
So - any other ROM back up program out there that doesnt neet root?
or perhaps i dont have to worry about losing data with CFAuto root?
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rooting does not delete data, whereas you never can be sure 100% that it will go as planned. Nevertheless there is not app that can backup 100% of your rom without root.
so i will take my chances :0)
Ke sera sera
done, went smooth
although I am running "root checker" and it says system running slow and doenst return results
is there a specific app i should install now ? "super SU" or something?
ofird said:
done, went smooth
although I am running "root checker" and it says system running slow and doenst return results
is there a specific app i should install now ? "super SU" or something?
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If you rooted it correctly SuperSU or SuperUser should already be installed. Did you have any progress getting Citrix to work while rooted? Im in the same situation and I've only been able to get it to work briefly with Touchwiz based ROMs with SuperSU. All others give me a " cannot connect due to a security policy" error - even after disabling root and trying to re-enroll. Its a beast...
Yes I have
I used hide my root throughout all the process.
I check with root checker to validate it's indeed hidden.
And I keep running hide my root at all times
ofird said:
Yes I have
I used hide my root throughout all the process.
I check with root checker to validate it's indeed hidden.
And I keep running hide my root at all times
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Nice! I'm gonna give that a go then. Thanks
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Nice! I'm gonna give that a go then. Thanks
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I have had to do the same...and all seems to work. But I had to also install two more apps enforced by policy; Lookout, and Touchdown.
Any ideas on what these do?
Touchdown is a great app for synching all your mails, notes and Exchange data.
I use it
I don't know what lookout is for
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
I have been having this same issue on rooted stock gs4. It's temperamental when it comes to root I've noticed. One day I was able to turn it app off of auto start and when I installed a new app it wouldn't let me do it and su says I'm granted
I'm experiencing the same issues. Auto Start Manager is the only feature that has this issue.
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yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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I always face this issue also, what I do as a temporary fix is, go to the SuperSU app, then "Forget" Clean Master, open Clean Master and try to disable an app from Auto starting, grant root and the app will be disabled I hope it works for you too
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
Unfortunately this does not work for me.
I have granted root access according to SuperSU Pro however when trying to stop autostarting apps in Clean Master it reminds me to allow access.
I even get a popup massage from SU stating that the app got granted root access.
Whats happening here? Does anyone have a work around?
Deleting Cleanmaster in SuperSU doesnt help. It is always the same unfortunately.
Best Regards
J
I too also have problems with the autostart function in Clean Master on my Optimus Zone II
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
DerDoktorEsq said:
Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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I can't argue over this. Best options for you 1. Root Cleaner (high priority) 2. SD Maid Pro (medium priority)
See the difference yourself.
fix?
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
dillweedinc said:
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here?²
hey..the main culprit is supersu app
yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Clean master root access
wow. cool...,ill try that,
thanx
it's supersu problem
StoneyJSG said:
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
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Just go thru my above post..it will definitely work..so give it a try... flashing new supersu 2.49 resolved the problem for me.?
Yep its working again. I tried 2.48 cuz somebody said it worked for them, but i had no luck there. 2.49 did the trick, thx for letting us know in the thread.
tycoon78[stoner] said:
Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
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Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip
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The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
Ahhh! Thank you so much tycoon! It works for me after updating super user!
QUOTE=Alison.Souza;60674697]Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip [/QUOTE]
DerDoktorEsq said:
The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
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I just rooted my s6 edge and was having the same issue with 2.46. Luckily when I updated to 2.49, I was unable to block the autostartup apps.
Hello!
I have some basic questions about the security of rooted android devices. I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
Another question:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
Yeah thats it, I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
Thanks a lot and Greets from Germany!
RedMr said:
I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
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You can't be unrooted and have CyanogenMod installed; that's an oxymoron. You can, of course, be unrooted without CM installed, but you can't have 'em both.
RedMr said:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
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You're safe even without "only install from trusted sources" turned on. Just make sure not to install anything at all that you didn't specifically tell your device to install.
RedMr said:
I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
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Unless you have an actual trojan or virus installed on your phone, your passwords are perfectly safe.
To check and make sure you're secure, download and install the avast! Mobile Security & Antivirus app from Google Play, and run a device scan.
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
RedMr said:
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
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If you're not already, you need to use a Super User app like SuperSU (the best one). It allows you to grant/deniy apps root access. If it asks to grant/deny permission to an app that you didn't install or isn't a function of CM, or simply don't want to grant root access, then deny it permission.
EDIT: As Nookie said, you can't accidentally install something even if you allow installations of apps that aren't from "trusted sources". If you do install apps from non "trusted sources", just be smart about it.