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OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
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holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
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Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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dayv said:
To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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Hey there, was trying out the multitasking on the phone and am experiencing RAM shortage? 2GB would have been great, but as I had the GSII I know that there is a lot more capability with 1GB..
On my GSII I could run more apps in the background than now. With the GSIII I can only have 3 apps working at the same time?! Everything keeps refreshing.. the browser, the launcher etc. Even the music stops sometimes while multitasking...
Anyone facing the same issue?
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No issues here at all..
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I mean you should check the task manager, if you can get more than 4 apps to run?
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Apart from the odd occassional main home screen refresh now and again, nothing out of the ordinary for me.
Stock ROM, but running a themed screen and icons with Go Launcher.
Might be worth looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
Some useful hints and tips on closing/removing apps. I personally just disabled them, made the mistake of removing some core ones from my GNex and made a right royal mess.
Good luck, let us know how you get on. :good:
Thank you for the useful thread you posted, but I didn't have to remove bloatware on my gsII to multitask? Even though I did remove it after a while it still worked before doing anything. I just can't imagine Samsung will ship a phone, where you have to remove apps to multitask properly?
So you can run more than 4 apps in the task manager?
Sad we in Europe didn't get the choice like in the U.S.between the two versions. As I feel the RAM would have been more future proof..
But putting this aside, I'm really impressed what they have packed into the touchwiz out of the box ! I don't even feel like rooting and flashing, because everything is running just fine.
As I know myself I'll find myself fondling around pretty soon, because Iknow the potential of xda
Just am facing this issue, which is really bugging me atm.
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I've got about 10 apps so far showing when I press the task manager button, no signs of lag so far for me.
Memory usage for me is 644Mb out of 779Mb.
Can't think of anything preventing you from opening more than 4 apps on the go.
No that thing you are seeing is the recent apps menu! That is just a chronology of what you opened recently and is no real time multitasking! In that menu you have to press "task-manager". There you'll see the apps which are truly running
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Yeah, I did say I pressed the Task Manager button, maybe I should'be been more clear on what I pressed and where it took me.
Anyways, I've attached a picture to clarify that I had at least 10 apps running.
You didn't tweak around the Developer options have you by any chance? Near the end of the list there is a section that says Limit background processes, mine has Standard limit, if clicked, options include No background processes, 1,2,3,4 processes at most.
If it's not that, then I'm out of ideas.
I don't own the sg3 (plan on buying one soon), but I know that in ICS there is an option in settings under developer options where you can set the number of apps allowed to run in the background.
Worth a shot.
Gold luck.
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multi tasking is perfect on omega roms.
Thanks for your effort mate!
At least now I know, that something isn't right with my phone... I had checked the developers options before, it was set on standard... I haven't done anything with the phone yet, that's the funny thing :/
I'll check what else I can do when I'M home from work.
I just noticed the issue when I was trying out the chrome and stock browser simultaneously. but the pages were all reloading. Which was not the case on sII.
really weird..
You are still on stock ROM?
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Thanks for your effort mate!
At least now I know, that something isn't right with my phone... I had checked the developers options before, it was set on standard... I haven't done anything with the phone yet, that's the funny thing :/
I'll check what else I can do when I'M home from work.
I just noticed the issue when I was trying out the chrome and stock browser simultaneously. but the pages were all reloading. Which was not the case on sII.
really weird..
You are still on stock ROM?
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I also face this problem of all webpages reloading all the time after switching apps.
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That happens when your phone runs out of memory, are you sure you're not running too many background apps?
Browsers are huge memory hogs, so it's not really surprising when you run 2 at the same time, but it all depends on the amount of open tabs and the webpages within.
The same "issue" appears on S2 (Stock an CM9) and with somewhat heavier usage on the Note.
no issues at all 1gb is perfect i dont need more
I think I solved it! Have to test it later.
Just removed the battery and inserted it again.. I know.. so trivial and didn't do that before dramatizing here thanks anyway!!!
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LOL! Battery pull! Let's hope that does fix it!
Glad you managed to figure something out.
Haha maybe it will give some ppl the idea too, if they face similar issues before crying around
Thank you nevertheless!
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maybe you have set this setting as attached pic
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This happens to me too and I very much doubt the problem isn't on everyone's phone.
One gig is obviously not enough on this phone.
Just for the record I love the phone but my browser is the only thing running and my home screen has just redrawn
Hey guys I'm back ..
Now I can open more apps simultaneously, but around after a minute everything closes down. They don't stay on they just close after a while..
I don't know what the reason is, but could you check and open a few apps? Then just look after a minute or so if they close down .
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i have been really really happy with this phone ... until recently. stock ROM. not rooted. over the past couple weeks i've been having problems where the phone dialer doesn't find a name i type in. says "unknown recipient". then i have to click the people icon and manually find the person ... the contact list take FOREVER to launch. once i do this, it works from then on for some period of time. also when i go to read a text it says loading for a LONG time. seems like the android native apps (contacts, messaging, etc ...) is having some problems. not sure, but all this seems to be happening since installing the last OTA update.
A restart of the phone fixes the problem but only for a short period of time. any help would be appreciated.
Wipe phone completely. Start over. Should fix your errors
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Root it. Trust me and everyone else in this community.
Root it..
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thanks for both replies ... i was afraid of getting each of those responses. it takes me hours to wipe and reset everything up. my last phone was the photon which i had rooted but i really don't want to keep trying to keep up with the OTAs. dang ... guess i have to do something
I'm rooted running meanrom4.4 the built in ota updater makes things really easy if you don't want to have to keep up with the new rom versions. You just download right on your phone like you would... An ota
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Root it. Trust me and everyone else in this community.
Root it..
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One of us...one of us....one of us
The phones performance between stock and rooted MeanRom 4.4 is like night and day. HTC should be embarrassed for the way the phone runs in stock condition, it really boggles the mind given its hardware.
Anything that doesn't work with Meanrom?
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thanks for both replies ... i was afraid of getting each of those responses. it takes me hours to wipe and reset everything up. my last phone was the photon which i had rooted but i really don't want to keep trying to keep up with the OTAs. dang ... guess i have to do something
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Its really not too long of a process with the right tools. Backup apps like Titanium Backup, My Root Backup or this newer one im been using, App2zip. I use to be like you. Spent why too long setting things back up. Now i use App2zip for my user apps and flash right after i flash a new rom. Upon bootup, all my apps are there. Not recommend to do with System apps..hint hint.
I bought the Galaxy S3 two months after the EVO. EVO was driving me nuts. I kept the EVO anyway. Can never have too many devices, right?
Running Mean 4.4 rom now and its like night and day from the first two months with the EVO. New advancements from Zep with multitasking and all the incredible work from all the devs in the community, im enjoying the EVO now.
S3 for sale... Just kidding.
This latest update fixed google wallet but looks to have made all of the google apps buggy in the process. Hopefully they'll push an update to fix it soon, but in the meantime rebooting the phone when it acts up will help temporarily.
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This latest update fixed google wallet but looks to have made all of the google apps buggy in the process. Hopefully they'll push an update to fix it soon, but in the meantime rebooting the phone when it acts up will help temporarily.
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Yet another reason to leave well enough alone lol
+1 for mean rom, I don't think I could go back. Part of the reason I like it besides the obvious fact that the phone runs way better the ota updater is fantastic this is the first rom I have used that has had it and probably won't go back to a rom without it. I actually have an update downloading in the background now. You deffinty should hard reset and since you have to do that anyway might as well root.
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I was about to start a thread for the exact same problem! I too have been hesitant to root my phone out of simple laziness... Maybe I'll shoot an email to HTC and see what they say. Definitely related to the latest OTA though.
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I have had the same issue since the last OTA update, and have tried a few things with limited success. I've tried removing all contacts, and resynching, backing up and clearing the data from the messaging app, soft and hard resets.
Of everything, the soft reset seems to have cut down how often I get this bug. Interestingly, my brothers phone has about the same frequency of the issue, but neither of my parents phones have the problem.
So HTC responded and said to try rebooting into "Safe Mode" and if that doesn't work to perform a factory reset. Here's the email:
If you have backed up your information and cleared the data from Phone, Messages, Contact Storage, and Dialer Storage, but you still have this issue, I would then recommend that you test your Evo 4G LTE in safe mode. This will disable third party apps and processes from launching when the phone is powered on. You will still be able to make and receive calls, text messages, email, and use the internet.
To put your Evo 4G LTE into Safe Mode, use the following steps. Be patient with these steps, you may not get it into Safe Mode on the first attempt.
Go into settings>power and uncheck Fastboot, then power off your phone.
With the phone powered off, press the Power key on your device.
When you see the first load screen, press & hold Volume Down key until OS loads.
"Safe Mode" text will appear on the lower left of screen to advise that you are in safe mode,to get out of safe mode just restart the phone.
If you can access these apps fine in safe mode, this would indicate some kind of conflict or interference from a third party application. You would need to rule them out by uninstalling the apps until you find that the phone is working normally again.
If the issue persists in safe mode, I would then recommend that you back up your data and perform a factory reset. If you would like assistance with backing up your data, please let me know and I will walk you through this process. The reset will restore the phone to a "like new" state. All personal data such as emails, text messages, internet bookmarks, photos, videos, music, documents, settings, call history, market apps, and any contacts and calendar entries that have not been backed up to a PC or server will be erased. Data on the SD card is not affected by the reset.
To reset your Evo 4G LTE, use the following method :
***If you use Google Wallet, please perform these steps before you perform the reset***
-Open Google Wallet application
-Tap on Menu
-Tap on Settings
-Tap on Reset Google Wallet
1. With the device turned off, press and hold the Volume Down button. While continuing to hold this, press and release the Power Button.
2. When the factory reset menu appears, then release the Volume Down button.
3. Use the Volume Down button again to highlight FACTORY RESET, and then press the Power Button to select it.
I hope that these steps help you to gain access to these apps properly again, Stephen, and I hope you have a great day!
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Im going to have to disagree with people and say, being stock along with all the updates have really improved my experience with sense 4. I've owned this phone since launch and really hated its performance. I eventually sold it and got a GS3 for 2 months and now I eventually want Galaxy Note 2. Anyways I sold the GS3 in a attempt to raise money for the note 2 but came across a great deal on a stock white Evo, which i now own. Let me tell you. This baby is silky smooth in stock form, much better than anything I've been flashing.
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here's what HTC told me to do ... it may have made some improvement ... time will tell.
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It's definitely no fun when your phone stops working as expected, and I'll be glad to help you get your phone back in working order! To best assist you I'll need to know what phone you have, but from your description it appears you have an Android powered phone. With this is mind I believe that we should try wiping the phone's cache partition. For your convenience I've attached a document that details how to perform the wipe. This does not delete any critical data from your phone like contacts, so you don't have to worry about losing any data. If this does not correct the concern please let me know, and also include the serial number for your phone so we can research the situation more deeply. Thank you for being a member of the HTC community, and I hope you have a wonderful afternoon!
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It appears that clearing caches/app data doesn't help with the problem, but rebooting into safe mode (press and hold vol down during the splash screen) does fix it. I believe this means that there is a 3rd party app causing the problem. Now to start uninstalling apps till the problem fixes itself. Ugh. Considering the problem doesn't occur half the time this will be a difficult process... Anybody have any suggestions on how to quickly figure out which app is causing this aside from uninstalling them one by one?
Check for cpu hogs
It sounds like u may have a cpu hog or a poorly written app. U might be able to tell what it is by checking your battery usage. Setting ngs/battery/battery usage
Biggest usage should be screen and android system ect.
If not, there may be a some apps to check that for u.
but if it comes to it, after the factory reset, start with the necessary apps, stock plus Google apps. After that do ur widgets, wait a few hours, add a few more, and wait.
This way u can limit new processes and boil it down to a few.
Good luck
Interested to see what app you are using that's causing issues. Good luck as well.
Hello everyone,
I've been reading the forum for a while and two weeks ago I decided to buy a galaxy s3 (the international version).
So far, I am more than satisfied with the phone but I experience the following issue:
First of all, even after restarting the phone, without opening any user apps, the ram usage is over 650mb out of the 830 available.
The problem is the following: Let's say that I open facebook and chrome. When changing between those 2 apps everything is ok.
Afterwards, I open instagram. When i want to turn from instagram to facebook/chrome, I have to wait at least 3 seconds looking at a white screen waiting for facebook to open. (Chrome even reloads the pervious page). It seems as if those apps were force closed and then restarted. (At that point, the ram usage reaches about 780mb).
In order to see what's going on, i opened two apps and looked at the task manager: Those apps were shown as "running". When opening a third app, one of the previous ones suddenly disappears from the task manager as if it has stopped running.
I'm running on android 4.1.1., stock rom without root and without any limit on background processes via developer options.
Is this normal? I mean... shouldn't s3 be able to flawlessly change between 3-4 apps without having to wait several seconds for the app to start (or re-start maybe) ?
Also, do you think that if i root my phone and flash a custom rom, will this problem be solved?
Thanks in advance
Hmm, the thing is how the Android is working, you can't have 'loaded'a lot of app, since there are simply not enough memory to keep these app in your memory phone. You can't do nothing about that expect:
Google: 'supercharge' and spent decent time understanding what is that.
Google: 'multiTasking mod v7' quick boost for your memory.
P.S update your system to 4.1.2 not sure if memory management will be better but this is must.
Try downloading 'omega kitchen' from the play store and grab from there 'mods'-'supercharge'
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Remove all bloatware, 1gb ram is not enough to run everything on s3. I have to also freeze apps and unfreeze them before I need them. It's ridiculous really. Processes on s3 use 2 or 3 times more ram than nexus 7
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Samsung made a big mistake giving the S3 1gb RAM.
Ignore everyone that says 'unused RAM is wasted RAM' while this is a totally valid statement, and in other Android devices very true, it's not the case for the S3. RAM on this phone is not managed well at all, if it gets below about 150mb the device gets slow and unusable.
Also multi tasking on the S3 is non existent, unless you modify ROM or framework, remove bloatware etc
I wod recommend a nice light ROM like Slim ROM or use JKay mod.
JKay mod has some awesome features to help lock apps in memory.
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Thanks everyone for your quick and helpful replies.:good:
I rooted my phone with exynosabuse v1.4 and used gemini app manager to lock some bloatware apps.
Ram usage was minimized by at least 200mb and now i can keep 3-4 apps running so I can flawlessly multitask.
Although I've done some reading, I am not actually sure about two things:
1. I've read that when rooting the phone or flashing a ram, you activate a counter. Do you know if rooting with exynosabuse activates the counter?
2. The official 4.1.2 will be soon available in my country. I would like to know if i can update my phone via OTA or Kies now that it is rooted. And if i do so, do I lose my root?
Thanks
Exynos abuse won't increase the counter.
No you won't get OTA if you are rooted, once you install stock firmware root access will be lost.
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Obagleyfreer said:
Exynos abuse won't increase the counter.
No you won't get OTA if you are rooted, once you install stock firmware root access will be lost.
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Your signature link (get hot naked chicks here) isn't really appropriate for a site that welcomes minors, and doesn't sit well with XDA rules.........as for how it makes YOU look.....well, nuff said!
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Your signature link (get hot naked chicks here) isn't really appropriate for a site that welcomes minors, and doesn't sit well with XDA rules.........as for how it makes YOU look.....well, nuff said!
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have you clicked it?
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Nope,I will leave that to the frustrated adolescents!
I'm not sure if you are being serious, but you should click it.
Anyway, this is all OT
I have been experiencing a series of force closes. I am posting this to see if anyone else has experienced this, and whether anyone can suggest a fix. I'm pretty sure it was something I did, but I'm not sure what. I'm hoping that this can maybe narrow it down.
Device: SM-N900P
Firmware: OC5, stock, rooted, with several tweaks and modifications(detailed below).
The problem: I am getting several force closes. They only occur when I am trying to open certain settings. So, they aren't just popping up at random. They are slightly troubling, but not really problematic. Which is to say, aside from the actual force closes themselves, I don't really seem to be experiencing any major problems. Here are the FC's I am experiencing:
-Menu> Settings> General> Battery: This one results in a "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped" dialog box, and an immediate return to my home screen. So, I can't check out my battery usage. I'm not seeing any crazy battery drain. By opening Root Explorer and navigating to data> system> batterystats.bin, and deleting batterystats.bin, the problem is kind of fixed- I can open battery from the settings menu after that. But there is only battery level and state displayed, no usage information(just a message saying it is not available).
-Menu> Settings> General> Developer options> Process Stats: Results in the same dialog box, and the background turns black if I don't press "OK". I'm not even sure what this does, but after my Battery started force closing, I started checking the rest of the settings out.
-Menu> Settings> Connections> Data usage: Dialog box, immediate return to home screen.
The probable cause: hard to say, I've done a few things to it. Like I said, I was hoping that someone would be able to figure out what I've done from the following information about what I have done so far. So, here goes.
I was on NK4, running Priest Punch ROM. I reverted to stock and took the OTA about a week or so ago. I immediately rooted and installed TWRP using the method in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/how-to-root-note-3-lollipop-t3089382 .
After rooting, I didn't see a whole lot of OC5 development, so I started poking around to see what kinds of mods I could use. First thing I wanted to do was remove bloat. I started off using Root Explorer, then I happened upon this thread featuring a bloatware removal tool for the T-Mobile variant: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile/development/tool-utility-sgn3-sm-n900x-bloat-t2813036 . It worked. I removed a bunch of apps, but nothing I wasn't sure I could safely remove(I had to check Google a few times). I did not notice any problems at this time.
Then I installed this mod to pump sound out of both speakers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/development/mod-sm-n900p-surround-sound-t2966042 . I did not notice any problems at this time.
Next, I decided I wanted more fonts, so uninstalled the preloaded fonts and pushed the apk from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752379 . Again, no problems.
I decided that a working hotspot would be nice, so I used the method in this thread to get one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/lollipop-hotspot-root-flashing-t3048163 . I tested it and it worked. No problems.
I really wanted to silence my shutter sound, and I happened upon this Galaxy S4 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261789 . It worked, and there were no issues. This was my first exposure to csc codes. I found a similar thread for the s6( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/quick-guide-enabling-hidden-features-t3087506 ), and followed the instructions. I was able to enable the camera during calls and enable call recording. No problems here. I tried a keyboard mod from the same thread, which had no effect at all(good or bad), so I reverted the code for that one back.
This is when I think I started to go off the rails a bit. I saw a thread for the Polish variant of the Note 3, N9005. http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...camera-mod-note-3-n9005-lollipop-5-0-t3067827 -it had a neat sounding mod designed to improve camera quality, remove recording time and snapshot restrictions, and make 60fps HD the default camcorder mode. It took a little trial and error to get it installed, but I was making backups of files I was messing with, and was able to quickly and easily reverse any missteps. Again, the mod works fine, and I have noticed no issues. So, I started looking at the dev's other work. Which led me to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/themes-apps/secsettings-mod-17-swipe-charging-t3046032 . I wanted some different unlock effects, and I wasn't really finding them, so I tried his mod out. It was a 3 step process: replace a SecSettings app, copy paste some .ogg files, and finally, copy paste a SustemUI .apk. The first two steps went fine, but the third resulted in a persisitent, repetitive dialog box. I forget what this dialog box said, but it popped up almost as soon as I could press "OK", and I had to restore the backup of SystemUI to make it usable again. Oddly enough, about half of the new unlock animations still worked fine, and I wasn't seeing any problems after that, so I left everything else there. I liked the unlock animations, and they didn't seem to be causing any problems after I restored the original systemUi .apk.
Let's see, what else might be relevant? I was using the built-in task killer quite a bit. I'm also using SetCPU. I have 2 profiles: Screen on, 1728 MHz max, 300 MHz min, governor ondemand. And Screen off, 1036 MHz max, 300 MHz min, governor interactive. And I have installed the Material Power Menu from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-materialpowermenu-reveal-animations-t3059169 .
I started to notice the battery FC last bight. So, I wiped the battery stats as outlined above. Noticed it again today, wiped stats again, and kept checking it. After about an hour, it was force closing again. That's when I started poking around and found the others.
I dunno if anything can be done about this, or if anyone might know what's wrong. And, like I said, Aside from these FC's I'm not experiencing any real problems. I'm a little worried that they may get worse, or turn into something more serious, but I can always restore a backup if that happens. But if there is some kind of fix for these issues, I would use it. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to read this wall of text, and tale of irresponsible phonery.
These are all settings that monitor usage.... should that tell me anything? I have tried wiping cache and dalvik, but that only seems to fix battery usage and data usage very temporarily(like, for a minute or less). And it doesn't seem to have effect on Process Stats.
My thoughts:
Seeing as you have flashed a lot of mods, it could be anything. If it were me, I'd start the rom from scratch. Then for the first step, instead of removing apps, I'd freeze them with titanium backup and give that a day or two to check the stability.
If that works, I'd continue with the mods one by one, giving a day or so for stability checks.
If you'd rather not do all that, you could use a logcat to find the origin of the problems.
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My thoughts:
Seeing as you have flashed a lot of mods, it could be anything. If it were me, I'd start the rom from scratch. Then for the first step, instead of removing apps, I'd freeze them with titanium backup and give that a day or two to check the stability.
If that works, I'd continue with the mods one by one, giving a day or so for stability checks.
If you'd rather not do all that, you could use a logcat to find the origin of the problems.
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I'd probably try the logcat first. One, because I hate doing stuff over, and two, Ive neber done it before and it should be a learning experience. Is it complicated? I'm assuming there is a thread here on xda about it...
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I'd probably try the logcat first. One, because I hate doing stuff over, and two, Ive neber done it before and it should be a learning experience. Is it complicated? I'm assuming there is a thread here on xda about it...
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It's fairly straight forward. I did one to see why an app wasn't loading, didn't need instructions. But that was a fairly simple check, yours sounds more complicated. I'd do a bit of reading on it.
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It's fairly straight forward. I did one to see why an app wasn't loading, didn't need instructions. But that was a fairly simple check, yours sounds more complicated. I'd do a bit of reading on it.
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Will do. Thanks for your help!
Okay well I decided to re flash OC5 and start from scratch.
I took it back to stock and re rooted. Am now debloating....no isssues yet.
I have flashed everything except the Polish camera mod and the wallpapers. Having zero issues of any kind. I know it can take difficulties some time to manifest themselves, but I'm betting it is either the lock screen animations or the camera mod. Leaning towards the lock screen animations because it involves messing with system.ui...
Okay, made a new backup and flashed the camera mod. No issues. After every mod, I have been going back and checking for issues. This is all stil pretty new, but if everything is still fine after a couple of days, well, I will be convinced that it was the lock rings. Not surprising obviously that flashing stuff meant for foreign variants can wreck your sh*t, lol.